David,, I think you need to keep all options open. The south coast ports were mainly used for coastal and cross channel trading and fishing Customs spent more time chasing smugglers than processing imports. Transatlantic sailing was mostly from Bristol with the Navy based in Plymouth. The press gang was also operating at that time. On the subject of name variations, how about Larby.  Familysearch has a 100+ born in England in the 17c, none of whom were born in Devon. Paul ________________________________ From: David L. Langenberg <gallienus@mac.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2014, 20:55 Subject: [DEV] Phenix, LARRABEE/LEREBY, GREENFIELD/GRENVILLE, DARKE, ROCKEY Paul, Thanks for your additional thoughts.  I'm still working on the assumption that Greenfield LARRABEE's name is for real and that it can tell me something about his origins.  My research has taken another tack, now that I notice that there was a family in LEREBYs as well as a family of GREENFIELDs in Saint Keverne, Cornwall in the early 17th century.  So I am out of Devon and into a neighboring county.  It looks like Saint Keverne is on the Lizard Peninsula, just about eight miles south of Falmouth.  Preliminary research informs me that Falmouth was created in 1613 and it surpassed neighboring Penryn so that by 1650 the Custom and Excise had moved from Penryn to Falmouth.  Wouldn't a bustling port have been a place of opportunity for a lad from nearby Saint Keverne? I did find an indication that Grenville was used as a Christian name in Devon: Grenville DARKE was baptized 30 January 1697 in Ashwater.  (Ironically, that is a parish I am searching for my ROCKEY ancestors, a totally unrelated research project.) But on to the Public Records of the Colony of Connecticut to find out what other visits the Phenix made to Connecticut in the middle of the 17th century. Regards, David Langenberg Newark, Delaware, USA On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Paul Hockie wrote: > David, > > Unfortunately the National Archives do not seem to have the captains log for > this HMS Phoenix as this would show the voyages.  A major role of the navy > was to patrol and project the trade routes from the other colonial powers - > France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands etc. as well as pirates' They also > provided escorts for troop and treasure ships. The Maritime museum gives the > following: > "In the 17th and 18th centuries there were six Royal Navy dockyards in > England, at Deptford, Woolwich, Chatham, Sheerness, Portsmouth and Plymouth. > There were also a number of outports in England and overseas yards, > including Gibraltar, Halifax and Jamaica." > It would be worth downloading > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-navy-operat > ions-1660-1914.htm > > 1660 was when Samuel Pepys re-organised the navy. > > Paul ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul, I AM getting ahead of myself. I notice that FamilySearch includes marriages for LARBY in Sussex, Surrey, and Hampshire (none under LARBBY), while there are marriages for LETHERBY in Cornwall, Somerset, and Gloucestershire. The form in the Connecticut records first attested is Grineffil LARBBY, although it soon became normalized to Greenfield LARRABEE. The master of the Phenix in 1646 was Steven Reekes. FamilySearch includes marriages of several persons of this name in the latter part of the 17th century in Christchurch, Hampshire. David On Jan 31, 2014, at 7:34 AM, paul.hockie@talk21.com wrote: > David,, > > I think you need to keep all options open. The south coast ports were mainly used for coastal and cross channel trading and fishing Customs spent more time chasing smugglers than processing imports. Transatlantic sailing was mostly from Bristol with the Navy based in Plymouth. The press gang was also operating at that time. > On the subject of name variations, how about Larby. Familysearch has a 100+ born in England in the 17c, none of whom were born in Devon. > > > Paul > > > > ________________________________ > From: David L. Langenberg <gallienus@mac.com> > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2014, 20:55 > Subject: [DEV] Phenix, LARRABEE/LEREBY, GREENFIELD/GRENVILLE, DARKE, ROCKEY > > > Paul, > > Thanks for your additional thoughts. I'm still working on the assumption that Greenfield LARRABEE's name is for real and that it can tell me something about his origins. My research has taken another tack, now that I notice that there was a family in LEREBYs as well as a family of GREENFIELDs in Saint Keverne, Cornwall in the early 17th century. So I am out of Devon and into a neighboring county. It looks like Saint Keverne is on the Lizard Peninsula, just about eight miles south of Falmouth. Preliminary research informs me that Falmouth was created in 1613 and it surpassed neighboring Penryn so that by 1650 the Custom and Excise had moved from Penryn to Falmouth. Wouldn't a bustling port have been a place of opportunity for a lad from nearby Saint Keverne? > > I did find an indication that Grenville was used as a Christian name in Devon: Grenville DARKE was baptized 30 January 1697 in Ashwater. (Ironically, that is a parish I am searching for my ROCKEY ancestors, a totally unrelated research project.) > > But on to the Public Records of the Colony of Connecticut to find out what other visits the Phenix made to Connecticut in the middle of the 17th century. > > Regards, > > David Langenberg > Newark, Delaware, USA > > On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Paul Hockie wrote: > >> David, >> >> Unfortunately the National Archives do not seem to have the captains log for >> this HMS Phoenix as this would show the voyages. A major role of the navy >> was to patrol and project the trade routes from the other colonial powers - >> France, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands etc. as well as pirates' They also >> provided escorts for troop and treasure ships. The Maritime museum gives the >> following: >> "In the 17th and 18th centuries there were six Royal Navy dockyards in >> England, at Deptford, Woolwich, Chatham, Sheerness, Portsmouth and Plymouth. >> There were also a number of outports in England and overseas yards, >> including Gibraltar, Halifax and Jamaica." >> It would be worth downloading >> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/royal-navy-operat >> ions-1660-1914.htm >> >> 1660 was when Samuel Pepys re-organised the navy. >> >> Paul > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message