Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of Uffculme/Kentisbeare? I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora
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Hi Lora What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. Mike Rendle Sent from my iPad > On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a > place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of Uffculme/Kentisbeare? > I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Mike - I think it is a farm/estate near Uffculme, one of my ancestors a little girl named Mary Ann Hooper was baptized 28 May 1816 there - her sibs near Uffculme too - another at Hill Pond, a couple others at Ponchidown which I see is really nearer to Kentisbeare (I think) - parents Philip and Mary Hooper (they eventually moved to Gittisham where they remained). Ponchidown (I see various spellings for it) I find, but not Marlopen or Hill Pond which are both given as "Uffculme" on parish registers. Thanks, Mike. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 2:00 AM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Lora > > What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the > dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. > > I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. > > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a > > place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of > Uffculme/Kentisbeare? > > I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
I am wondering if this is the transcriber confusing manuscript versions of M and H? Is Hill Pond Mill Pond? There is a holiday cottage at Uffculme advertised online called Mill Pond Cottage. And is Marlopen Halberton? The clerk could have misheard Halberton spoken in a Devon accent as Harlopen just as the earlier enquirer wondered if Ditson could be Dittisham. Ponchidown is modern Ponchy Down. Joy ----Original message---- From : trempealeau2@gmail.com Date : 08/11/2018 - 13:04 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: Marlopen Hi Mike - I think it is a farm/estate near Uffculme, one of my ancestors a little girl named Mary Ann Hooper was baptized 28 May 1816 there - her sibs near Uffculme too - another at Hill Pond, a couple others at Ponchidown which I see is really nearer to Kentisbeare (I think) - parents Philip and Mary Hooper (they eventually moved to Gittisham where they remained). Ponchidown (I see various spellings for it) I find, but not Marlopen or Hill Pond which are both given as "Uffculme" on parish registers. Thanks, Mike. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 2:00 AM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Lora > > What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the > dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. > > I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. > > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a > > place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of > Uffculme/Kentisbeare? > > I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I’ve had a look at the Kentisbeare PR images at FMP and I think the place name is Marle Pen. I’ve also had a look at a map of the area at https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=15&lat=50.8735&lon=-3.2992&layers=B000000TFFFTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF&b=10&point=0,0 and there are a large number of 'old marl pits' but unfortunately I couldn’t see a Marle Pen. Mike Rendle DFHS 21563 On 8 Nov 2018, at 13:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com<mailto:trempealeau2@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Mike - I think it is a farm/estate near Uffculme, one of my ancestors a little girl named Mary Ann Hooper was baptized 28 May 1816 there - her sibs near Uffculme too - another at Hill Pond, a couple others at Ponchidown which I see is really nearer to Kentisbeare (I think) - parents Philip and Mary Hooper (they eventually moved to Gittisham where they remained). Ponchidown (I see various spellings for it) I find, but not Marlopen or Hill Pond which are both given as "Uffculme" on parish registers. Thanks, Mike. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 2:00 AM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com<mailto:northdevonrendle@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Lora What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. Mike Rendle Sent from my iPad On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com<mailto:trempealeau2@gmail.com>> wrote: Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of Uffculme/Kentisbeare? I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com<http://Ancestry.com> and our loyal RootsWeb community
I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: ziggy beseler [mailto:trempealeau2@gmail.com] Sent: 08 November 2018 13:05 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Marlopen Hi Mike - I think it is a farm/estate near Uffculme, one of my ancestors a little girl named Mary Ann Hooper was baptized 28 May 1816 there - her sibs near Uffculme too - another at Hill Pond, a couple others at Ponchidown which I see is really nearer to Kentisbeare (I think) - parents Philip and Mary Hooper (they eventually moved to Gittisham where they remained). Ponchidown (I see various spellings for it) I find, but not Marlopen or Hill Pond which are both given as "Uffculme" on parish registers. Thanks, Mike. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 2:00 AM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Lora > > What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the > dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. > > I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. > > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a > > place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of > Uffculme/Kentisbeare? > > I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Any chance that that the "l" could be "k" and the "H" could be "M"? There is a Hackpen. Joy ----Original message---- From : paul@hockie.co.uk Date : 08/11/2018 - 16:55 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: Marlopen I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. Cheers Paul -----Original Message-----
gosh, I have no idea Joy - first time I had heard of it. I'm thinking it may have been a farm or estate long gone? Thanks for looking. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:18 AM Joy Langdon via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Any chance that that the "l" could be "k" and the "H" could be "M"? There > is a Hackpen. > > Joy > ----Original message---- > From : paul@hockie.co.uk > Date : 08/11/2018 - 16:55 (GMT) > To : devon@rootsweb.com > Subject : [DEV] Re: Marlopen > > I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the > place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry > for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr > Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land > transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. > > I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown > Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Joy, There is a capital H in the name and occupation - Hooper and Husband. In the adjacent columns so I will stick with M and I don't think the l is a k. I found a reference to Marlpen and a Coombe family born there around this time on Geneanet but I think the source is the registers. I also found an elder sibling who was born in Ponchydown and then the family became non-conformists and a child was born in Brockhol and back to the parish in Hill Pond the Cold Spring. I can't find Marlepen referenced in the 1841/51 census. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] Sent: 08 November 2018 17:17 To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Joy Langdon Subject: [DEV] Re: Marlopen Any chance that that the "l" could be "k" and the "H" could be "M"? There is a Hackpen. Joy ----Original message---- From : paul@hockie.co.uk Date : 08/11/2018 - 16:55 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: Marlopen I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
very interesting, Paul! I have Mary Ann, bap 28 July 1816 Marlopen, then James bap 26 Apr 1818 Ponchidown, and +1818?, another James c. 1819, bap `13 Apr 1823 Hill Pond; then George Bap 13 Apr 1823 Hill Pond; and Benjamin * 4 Sept 1825 Cold Spring, +22 Jan 1826, 4 mos - mother was buried 4 days after Ben's birth. There is a sibling older than Mary Ann? Interesting too about the nonconformist - it must have been due to the 1st wife; my ggg grandmother was wife #2 and they are in Kentisbeare after that - finally for good to Gittisham. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM Paul Hockie <paul@hockie.co.uk> wrote: > Joy, > > There is a capital H in the name and occupation - Hooper and Husband. In > the adjacent columns so I will stick with M and I don't think the l is a k. > I found a reference to Marlpen and a Coombe family born there around this > time on Geneanet but I think the source is the registers. I also found an > elder sibling who was born in Ponchydown and then the family became > non-conformists and a child was born in Brockhol and back to the parish in > Hill Pond the Cold Spring. > > I can't find Marlepen referenced in the 1841/51 census. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 08 November 2018 17:17 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Cc: Joy Langdon > Subject: [DEV] Re: Marlopen > > Any chance that that the "l" could be "k" and the "H" could be "M"? There > is a Hackpen. > > Joy > ----Original message---- > From : paul@hockie.co.uk > Date : 08/11/2018 - 16:55 (GMT) > To : devon@rootsweb.com > Subject : [DEV] Re: Marlopen > > I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the > place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry > for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr > Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land > transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. > > I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown > Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Ziggy, Based on my research in nearby Halberton and the Culm Valley. I believe these are the names of agricultural workers tied cottages and tenements. Married workers were given accommodation as part of their employment while the single workers slept in barns and ate in the farmhouse kitchen. The cottages/tenements were sometimes part of the farm buildings sometimes nearby and sometimes in the village. Young workers were often employed for one year but older, more experienced workers were retained and kept their cottage as long term workers. From the early 1800s common (community) lands were enclosed and take over by the local labndowners. These small holdings were consolidated into larger, more profitable farms and the smallholders changed from being farmers to agricultural workers. I suspect the Hoopers may have lost land in this way. A few years ago I used the census and Ordnance Survey maps, old and new, to find my ancestors' homes and when we were on holiday nearby. They can also be found on Google Earth although the street view is of just a hedge. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: ziggy beseler [mailto:trempealeau2@gmail.com] Sent: 08 November 2018 21:36 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Marlopen very interesting, Paul! I have Mary Ann, bap 28 July 1816 Marlopen, then James bap 26 Apr 1818 Ponchidown, and +1818?, another James c. 1819, bap `13 Apr 1823 Hill Pond; then George Bap 13 Apr 1823 Hill Pond; and Benjamin * 4 Sept 1825 Cold Spring, +22 Jan 1826, 4 mos - mother was buried 4 days after Ben's birth. There is a sibling older than Mary Ann? Interesting too about the nonconformist - it must have been due to the 1st wife; my ggg grandmother was wife #2 and they are in Kentisbeare after that - finally for good to Gittisham. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM Paul Hockie <paul@hockie.co.uk> wrote: > Joy, > > There is a capital H in the name and occupation - Hooper and Husband. In > the adjacent columns so I will stick with M and I don't think the l is a k. > I found a reference to Marlpen and a Coombe family born there around this > time on Geneanet but I think the source is the registers. I also found an > elder sibling who was born in Ponchydown and then the family became > non-conformists and a child was born in Brockhol and back to the parish in > Hill Pond the Cold Spring. > > I can't find Marlepen referenced in the 1841/51 census. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] > Sent: 08 November 2018 17:17 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Cc: Joy Langdon > Subject: [DEV] Re: Marlopen > > Any chance that that the "l" could be "k" and the "H" could be "M"? There > is a Hackpen. > > Joy > ----Original message---- > From : paul@hockie.co.uk > Date : 08/11/2018 - 16:55 (GMT) > To : devon@rootsweb.com > Subject : [DEV] Re: Marlopen > > I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the > place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry > for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr > Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land > transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. > > I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown > Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Thanks Paul and Joy - I shall maintain your good info. Lora On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:55 AM Paul Hockie <paul@hockie.co.uk> wrote: > I have just looked at the baptism entry. The parish is Kentisbeare and the > place looks like Marle Pen as two separate words. There is one other entry > for the same place on that page. Marle possibly is Marley. I noticed Mr > Hooper was a husbandman so there is a possibility of a will, land > transaction, or Tithe/Apportionment records. > > I looked at the OS maps on Bing but could not see a Marley. Ponchydown > Farm is just to the east of Kentisbeare. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: ziggy beseler [mailto:trempealeau2@gmail.com] > Sent: 08 November 2018 13:05 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Re: Marlopen > > Hi Mike - > > I think it is a farm/estate near Uffculme, one of my ancestors a little > girl named Mary Ann Hooper was baptized 28 May 1816 there - her sibs near > Uffculme too - another at Hill Pond, a couple others at Ponchidown which I > see is really nearer to Kentisbeare (I think) - parents Philip and Mary > Hooper (they eventually moved to Gittisham where they remained). Ponchidown > (I see various spellings for it) I find, but not Marlopen or Hill Pond > which are both given as "Uffculme" on parish registers. Thanks, Mike. > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 2:00 AM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Lora > > > > What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the > > dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify > it. > > > > I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. > > > > Mike Rendle > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know > of a > > > place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of > > Uffculme/Kentisbeare? > > > I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Lora: Are you sure it's not a farm name? Perhaps a modern OS map might help locate it, as farm names changed little, if any, down through the years. Sher On 11/8/2018 1:59 AM, Mike Rendle wrote: > Hi Lora > > What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. > > I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. > > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of a >> place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of Uffculme/Kentisbeare? >> I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Hi Sher - I have no idea - I am guessing that maybe it was a farm name, either long gone or name changed. On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:34 PM Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > Lora: > > Are you sure it's not a farm name? Perhaps a modern OS map might help > locate it, as farm names changed little, if any, down through the years. > > Sher > > > On 11/8/2018 1:59 AM, Mike Rendle wrote: > > Hi Lora > > > > What’s the context of the place name? Who are the people, what are the > dates and source associated with it? It may help one of us to identify it. > > > > I couldn’t find it either, just as a place name. > > > > Mike Rendle > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On 8 Nov 2018, at 02:04, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Here goes with another question, List: Has anyone heard of or know of > a > >> place called Marlopen - somewhere in the vicinity of > Uffculme/Kentisbeare? > >> I find it nowhere on genuki for this in Devon towns and parishes. Lora > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ------------------------------------------ > >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
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