If the Robert Wills aged 72 in the 1841 census for E Allington is the one you need, he is A Pensioner ,  which may be he is a naval pensioner  and may be more traceable this way via the military archives ….. try RN on the National Archives site    On the E Allington site ,  link thank you from Joy,  there are various transcriptions of bmb and quite a few Wills latterly .  Very useful indeed.

Elizabeth,Yes; that is the person. I thought he was an Ag Lab (farm) pensioner; but I will go the National Archives to look and see if he is there.Thank you and regards,Sandra Wills From: ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> To: Devon Rootsweb <devon@rootsweb.com> Cc: ELIZABETH HOWARD <elizgh@btinternet.com> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:31 AM Subject: [DEV] WILLS If the Robert Wills aged 72 in the 1841 census for E Allington is the one you need, he is A Pensioner ,  which may be he is a naval pensioner  and may be more traceable this way via the military archives ….. try RN on the National Archives site    On the E Allington site ,  link thank you from Joy,  there are various transcriptions of bmb and quite a few Wills latterly .  Very useful indeed. _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi. No such thing as a standard works pension in those days !! You worked , you got paid ; you didn’t work , you didn’t get paid . And given the Admiral in the Big House De la Fosse he probably was RN but Wills is a very populous name so you may have some difficulty isolating which he was. Unless you can find out which ships the Admiral served on and trust to luck that your pensioner was on the same ship . Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Oct 2018, at 17:15, nvlv55--- via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Elizabeth,Yes; that is the person. I thought he was an Ag Lab (farm) pensioner; but I will go the National Archives to look and see if he is there.Thank you and regards,Sandra Wills > > From: ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> > To: Devon Rootsweb <devon@rootsweb.com> > Cc: ELIZABETH HOWARD <elizgh@btinternet.com> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:31 AM > Subject: [DEV] WILLS > > If the Robert Wills aged 72 in the 1841 census for E Allington is the one you need, he is A Pensioner , which may be he is a naval pensioner and may be more traceable this way via the military archives ….. try RN on the National Archives site On the E Allington site , link thank you from Joy, there are various transcriptions of bmb and quite a few Wills latterly . Very useful indeed. > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Elizabeth, If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would have applied at the time being discussed here. Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Howard [mailto:elizghoward@gmail.com] Sent: 29 October 2018 23:03 To: nvlv55@yahoo.com; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] DEV] Re: WILLS Hi. No such thing as a standard works pension in those days !! You worked , you got paid ; you didn’t work , you didn’t get paid . And given the Admiral in the Big House De la Fosse he probably was RN but Wills is a very populous name so you may have some difficulty isolating which he was. Unless you can find out which ships the Admiral served on and trust to luck that your pensioner was on the same ship . Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Oct 2018, at 17:15, nvlv55--- via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Elizabeth,Yes; that is the person. I thought he was an Ag Lab (farm) pensioner; but I will go the National Archives to look and see if he is there.Thank you and regards,Sandra Wills > > From: ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> > To: Devon Rootsweb <devon@rootsweb.com> > Cc: ELIZABETH HOWARD <elizgh@btinternet.com> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:31 AM > Subject: [DEV] WILLS > > If the Robert Wills aged 72 in the 1841 census for E Allington is the one you need, he is A Pensioner , which may be he is a naval pensioner and may be more traceable this way via the military archives ….. try RN on the National Archives site On the E Allington site , link thank you from Joy, there are various transcriptions of bmb and quite a few Wills latterly . Very useful indeed. > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

And a lot of those Greenwich pensioners can be found on-line in the National Archives under ADM29 eg a "google" as follows : National Archives ADM 29 Smith produced a number of answers including : ADM 29/4/318 Original page number: 318 George SMITH; Rank: Boatswain; Born: [Not Given]; Age on entry: [Not Given]; Dates served: 24 June 1805-9 September 1836; Date and Type of Application: Admiralty 17 September 1836 Paul On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:35:38 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Elizabeth, > >If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would have applied at the time being discussed here. > >Best wishes > >Mike Gould >Leicestershire > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth Howard [mailto:elizghoward@gmail.com] >Sent: 29 October 2018 23:03 >To: nvlv55@yahoo.com; devon@rootsweb.com >Subject: [DEV] DEV] Re: WILLS > >Hi. No such thing as a standard works pension in those days !! You worked , you got paid ; you didn’t work , you didn’t get paid . And given the Admiral in the Big House De la Fosse he probably was RN but Wills is a very populous name so you may have some difficulty isolating which he was. Unless you can find out which ships the Admiral served on and trust to luck that your pensioner was on the same ship . > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On 29 Oct 2018, at 17:15, nvlv55--- via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Elizabeth,Yes; that is the person. I thought he was an Ag Lab (farm) pensioner; but I will go the National Archives to look and see if he is there.Thank you and regards,Sandra Wills >> >> From: ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> >> To: Devon Rootsweb <devon@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: ELIZABETH HOWARD <elizgh@btinternet.com> >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:31 AM >> Subject: [DEV] WILLS >> >> If the Robert Wills aged 72 in the 1841 census for E Allington is the one you need, he is A Pensioner , which may be he is a naval pensioner and may be more traceable this way via the military archives ….. try RN on the National Archives site On the E Allington site , link thank you from Joy, there are various transcriptions of bmb and quite a few Wills latterly . Very useful indeed. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html