And looking through the War Casualty list each week in 1918 on Britishnewspaperarchives , I have found a number of men wounded and killed , several of the killed despite being said to be of this town , never made it onto the war memorial. The decisions who to add and who to leave out must have been very personally made rather than by any national rules and regulations. Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Oct 2018, at 17:20, Tony Vigars via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dear Jon, > > I've come in on the end of this thread - so I hope I am not repeating something. > > Has anyone mentioned Todd Gray's excellent book: "Lest Devon Forgets (Service, Sacrifice and the Creation of Great War Memorials)"? Available at http://www.stevensbooks.co.uk/todd_grey_books/ldf.html and presumably through local bookshops on order or there are second hand copies available at Amazon. > > I say excellent though I haven't read it! My comment is based upon an excellent talk I heard Todd Gray give on the subject on two occasions so assume the content of the book will be likewise. He outlines the different ways different towns or villages reached a decision on a local memorial - there being no prescribed path. > > Hope this might help you and others. > > Incidentally the excellent book on Tavistock's Memorial " We Will Remember Them: The Men of Tavistock Who Died in the First World War" by Alex Metler & Gerry Woodcock reveals that one man named on the memorial never died as a war casualty, but abandoning his wife died a good deal later in Canada - if I remember the details correctly! > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Frayne [mailto:jon.frayne@gmail.com] > Sent: 21 October 2018 21:32 > To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com > Cc: Ruth Wilson <ruthwilson1111@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials > > Many thanks to Cher and all who have contributed to my question about war memorials. It rather came to what I thought-I shall have to go back to the record office in Barnstaple and ask there-which I should have thought of in the first place! > > I think the process of asking in the local press is how they went about asking for names in the local area and then found it hard to turn down anyone whose family asked for their son, father, brother to be memorialised. The master stoker is memorialised in Plymouth where they have a large memorial to lost sailors. I have found out more about him, just no link to Atherington! > > Jon > > PS can I suggest the thread on Devonshire Regiment and Soldiers Died in the First World war should warrant a new thread or Terry will be making noises . . . > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ruth Wilson via DEVON > Sent: 20 October 2018 20:49 > To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; Devon > Cc: Ruth Wilson > Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials > > Dear Sher, > > I don’t have details of that book but I do have two volumes of ‘The Devonshire Regiment 1914-1918’ It was compiled by C.T.Atkinson and first published in 1926.It is a very detailed account of the operations the Devonshire regiment took part in. My copy however a reprint and has been purchased within the last year and seems to be by The Naval and Military Press Ltd. > www.naval-military-press.com > (It was a present so I cannot be sure where it was obtained) > > Ruth >> On 20 Oct 2018, at 01:42, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ros: >> >> How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book?? It could hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! >> >> Sher >> >> >>> On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: >>> I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" - no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... >>> >>> Ros Haywood >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> >>> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; >>> "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> >>> Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> >>> Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 >>> Subject: [DEV] War memorials >>> >>>> Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >>>> >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>>> >>>> From: Edna Marlow >>>> Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >>>> To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Cc: Bob Halberstadt >>>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>>> >>>> Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township >>>> Historical Society here in Ottawa. >>>> >>>> Edna M - sunny Ottawa >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Sher Leetooze >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >>>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>>> >>>> Edna and list: >>>> >>>> The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >>>> display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >>>> brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >>>> each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an >>>> Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own >>>> display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well >>>> worth the digging for info and photos >>>> >>>> Sher >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Let us remember all those who served: >>>>> >>>>> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>>>> >>>>> Edna - sunny Ottawa >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>>> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and >>>>> supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>> RootsWeb community >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>> RootsWeb community >>> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com <https://www.avg.com/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 08:38, Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> wrote: > Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? My *impression* is that any records would have been retained - or not - by the body that was ultimately responsible for the memorial. For instance, if the memorial was created by a church, then any records would be with the church. Or binned, of course. It's actually dodgy to refer to "mistakes being made" because unless you know the criteria that were being used, it's hard to claim a mistake had been made. That said, it's clear that some memorials were intended to refer to inhabitants of that village / town / however that's defined. And it's equally clear that some names are, at the very least, unclear in their relevance to that village etc.. (I remember a story a few years ago about someone campaigning loudly that someone who'd been executed for desertion should be included on the village memorial and how it was unfair that such people had been excluded. Someone then pointed out that (a) there was no such generic exclusion and (b) that the said guy had already been listed on memorials in two other villages that he was actually more obviously linked with...) I suspect that there may have been an element of people putting the names of relatives forward in response to appeals. My granddad's elder brother is commemorated on Nantwich War Memorial but not Haslington - the family moved from Nantwich to Haslington during WW1. Conversely, they had 2 cousins who appear on the Nantwich memorial (where the family lived at the start of the war) and are *also* memorialised in Blackburn where their family moved during WW1. So there's nothing consistent and family responses may play a part. Adrian

I started wondering about memorials and was there any real organisation behind them. I found the following http://www.greatwar.co.uk/memorials/ww1-memorials.htm . Its worth following the links in particular "WW1 Monuments and Memorials in the United Kingdom". Those Family History Societies who have indexed Monumental Inscriptions often have included the war memorials. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Bruce [mailto:abruce6155@gmail.com] Sent: 19 October 2018 19:52 To: Devon Rootsweb Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 08:38, Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> wrote: > Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? My *impression* is that any records would have been retained - or not - by the body that was ultimately responsible for the memorial. For instance, if the memorial was created by a church, then any records would be with the church. Or binned, of course. It's actually dodgy to refer to "mistakes being made" because unless you know the criteria that were being used, it's hard to claim a mistake had been made. That said, it's clear that some memorials were intended to refer to inhabitants of that village / town / however that's defined. And it's equally clear that some names are, at the very least, unclear in their relevance to that village etc.. (I remember a story a few years ago about someone campaigning loudly that someone who'd been executed for desertion should be included on the village memorial and how it was unfair that such people had been excluded. Someone then pointed out that (a) there was no such generic exclusion and (b) that the said guy had already been listed on memorials in two other villages that he was actually more obviously linked with...) I suspect that there may have been an element of people putting the names of relatives forward in response to appeals. My granddad's elder brother is commemorated on Nantwich War Memorial but not Haslington - the family moved from Nantwich to Haslington during WW1. Conversely, they had 2 cousins who appear on the Nantwich memorial (where the family lived at the start of the war) and are *also* memorialised in Blackburn where their family moved during WW1. So there's nothing consistent and family responses may play a part. Adrian _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If anyone is researching the whole of England re deaths from World War I in particular they can ask me for a look up in my Aldenham School Registers. Although this entry does not relate to Devon, it was the 1st name that I came across and to give you an idea. Aldenham School Registers. LUTYENS, Lionel Gallway, Sept. 1902-1903 (Son of Charles LUTYENS, of Great Amwell, Herts) Migrated to Bedford Grammar School: 2nd Lieut. R.F.A. 1915.; Acting Major, M.C. Died of Wounds (France)Jan. 6th, 1918 The dates match with CWGC which has more info. There must be a Memorial to him somewhere, would be interesting to know where. Bev

Here you are http://www.hertsatwar.co.uk/great_amwell also his brother Adrian On 19/10/2018 22:21, B. Edmonds wrote: > If anyone is researching the whole of England re deaths from World War > I in particular they can ask me for a look up in my Aldenham School > Registers. > > Although this entry does not relate to Devon, it was the 1st name that > I came across and to give you an idea. > > Aldenham School Registers. > > > LUTYENS, Lionel Gallway, Sept. 1902-1903 (Son of Charles LUTYENS, of > Great Amwell, Herts) Migrated to Bedford Grammar School: 2nd Lieut. > R.F.A. 1915.; Acting Major, M.C. Died of Wounds (France)Jan. 6th, 1918 > > The dates match with CWGC which has more info. > > There must be a Memorial to him somewhere, would be interesting to > know where. > > Bev > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

Jon: Here in Canada, likely following in the shoes of our British relatives,  a request was put out in the local newspapers for the names of anyone who was lost during the war, for the purpose of a war memorial.  Of course, people from all over answered this request.  Locals wrote to their friends and relatives in other communities telling them about the request, and they too sent in their loved ones names.  Here in my town most of the names on our cenotaph are not locals.  But it has occurred to me that if these people had not be memorialized on our cenotaph, then they may not have been memorialized at all.  Try the Commonwealth War Graves Commission for further information about your master stoker - you may be able to find out where his relatives are and you can let them know he is remembered in your town. Another reason some are on our cenotaph is that they were travelling through our town, perhaps looking for work, and signed up here.  Their file said they signed up at this place, and so their name was added to our cenotaph.  Most of the "lost ones" were English, so I think this may be the reason they are here. Sher On 10/19/2018 2:38 AM, Jonathan Frayne wrote: > > Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war > memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended > and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. > This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if > there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The > reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot > trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know > why we memorialise him. > > Jon > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > *From: *Edna Marlow <mailto:liverpud-49@rogers.com> > *Sent: *19 October 2018 03:28 > *To: *sherleetooze@gmail.com <mailto:sherleetooze@gmail.com>; > devon@rootsweb.com <mailto:devon@rootsweb.com> > *Cc: *Bob Halberstadt <mailto:President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> > *Subject: *[DEV] Re: End of WW One > > Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the > > Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. > > Edna M  - sunny Ottawa > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sher Leetooze > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM > > To: devon@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One > > Edna and list: > > The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long > > display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts > > brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for > > each - nurses included.  If anyone out there belongs to an Historical > > Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either > > for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting.  Well worth the digging > > for info and photos > > Sher > > On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > > > > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > > > > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS > > > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

I don't know if people are aware of film maker Danny Boyle's "Pages of the Sea" event when on 11 November communities will gather on beaches across the UK to say goodbye and thank you to the millions of men and women who left their shores during the war, many never to return. Saunton Sands is the Devon beach. If you don't live near one of the designated beaches you can take part online by choosing someone to say goodbye to - either by selecting someone listed on the website or adding someone of your own. The information about what it involves, participating beaches and how to take part online is here: https://www.pagesofthesea.org.uk/about/ Joy ----Original message---- From : liverpud-49@rogers.com Date : 18/10/2018 - 15:34 (GMTST) To : Devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] End of WW One Let us remember all those who served: 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 Edna - sunny Ottawa _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Joy!  Like Elizabeth, I hadn't heard about that either. I'll ask the rellies still over there if they want to attend it - some might! Sher On 10/20/2018 5:01 AM, Joy Langdon via DEVON wrote: > I don't know if people are aware of film maker Danny Boyle's "Pages of the Sea" event when on 11 November communities will gather on beaches across the UK to say goodbye and thank you to the millions of men and women who left their shores during the war, many never to return. Saunton Sands is the Devon beach. If you don't live near one of the designated beaches you can take part online by choosing someone to say goodbye to - either by selecting someone listed on the website or adding someone of your own. > > The information about what it involves, participating beaches and how to take part online is here: > https://www.pagesofthesea.org.uk/about/ > > Joy > > ----Original message---- > From : liverpud-49@rogers.com > Date : 18/10/2018 - 15:34 (GMTST) > To : Devon@rootsweb.com > Subject : [DEV] End of WW One > > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com