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    1. [DEV] End of WW One
    2. Edna Marlow
    3. Let us remember all those who served: 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 Edna - sunny Ottawa

    10/18/2018 08:34:58
    1. [DEV] Re: End of WW One
    2. Elizabeth Howard
    3. And refresh your memories of their names by visiting your ancestral village`s war memorial /roll of honour .. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:35 PM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/18/2018 09:18:31
    1. [DEV] Re: End of WW One
    2. Andrew Radgick
    3. I will be giving a talk on how the War affected my adopted town of Bracknell in Berkshire on the day after (12th November) The Bracknell Forest Society | | | | | | | | | | | The Bracknell Forest Society The Bracknell Forest Society website | | | On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 16:19:48 BST, Elizabeth Howard <elizghoward@gmail.com> wrote: And refresh your memories of their names by visiting your ancestral village`s war memorial /roll of honour  .. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:35 PM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/18/2018 09:47:17
    1. [DEV] Re: End of WW One
    2. Sher Leetooze
    3. Great idea Elizabeth!  here in Canada, if a community has a cenotaph there is usually a short ceremony on the 11th with the laying of wreaths.  If your community doesn't do that - now is the year to get the tradition started. Sher On 10/18/2018 10:18 AM, Elizabeth Howard wrote: > And refresh your memories of their names by visiting your ancestral > village`s war memorial /roll of honour .. > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:35 PM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Let us remember all those who served: >> >> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >> >> Edna - sunny Ottawa >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

    10/18/2018 07:25:40
    1. [DEV] Re: End of WW One
    2. Sher Leetooze
    3. Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included.  If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting.  Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

    10/18/2018 07:23:32
    1. [DEV] Re: End of WW One
    2. Edna Marlow
    3. Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

    10/18/2018 08:27:21
    1. [DEV] War memorials
    2. Jonathan Frayne
    3. Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/19/2018 01:38:12
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. My understanding was that there is large Roll of Honour prepared for the fallen of Devon but that it was far from accurate and complete. A colleague in Holsworthy has been researching this and has found quite a number of men who should be on memorials but are missing and work is being done to address this but I am a bit short on detail. As regards accuracy, I know several examples of muddles on the memorials with the wrong brother being recorded as having died. Our memorial in Thornbury records both the living who returned and the dead, and managed to get some of that wrong, as did one in my old village of Diseworth in Leicestershire, which was also in a muddle. In the latter case we had a lot of boys, and they were only boys, on the memorial who had nothing much to do with the village but had been placed there from an Industrial School in Norfolk before the war to learn a trade as farm workers and so they are commemorated there rather than in the places they came from, often London. In some very sad cases they put their landladies down as their next of kin as they had nobody else. Could something like this explain your chap? I found the minutes of the committee that arranged the building of the Thornbury War Memorial in the local record office in Exeter, complete with the invoices from the stone masons and the bill for the lead letters. Always worth a look to see what is there. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> Sent: 19 October 2018 08:38 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Subject: [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/19/2018 02:11:09
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Graham Parnell
    3. You will find the transcription of the Roll of Honour that you refer to, which was compiled by volunteers from the Friends of Devon's Archives, on this website complete with details of the roll and how it was compiled: http://www.devonhonour.org.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: meg@taylor.it [mailto:meg@taylor.it] Sent: 19 October 2018 09:11 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials My understanding was that there is large Roll of Honour prepared for the fallen of Devon but that it was far from accurate and complete. A colleague in Holsworthy has been researching this and has found quite a number of men who should be on memorials but are missing and work is being done to address this but I am a bit short on detail. As regards accuracy, I know several examples of muddles on the memorials with the wrong brother being recorded as having died. Our memorial in Thornbury records both the living who returned and the dead, and managed to get some of that wrong, as did one in my old village of Diseworth in Leicestershire, which was also in a muddle. In the latter case we had a lot of boys, and they were only boys, on the memorial who had nothing much to do with the village but had been placed there from an Industrial School in Norfolk before the war to learn a trade as farm workers and so they are commemorated there rather than in the places they came from, often London. In some very sad cases they put their landladies down as their next of kin as they had nobody else. Could something like this explain your chap? I found the minutes of the committee that arranged the building of the Thornbury War Memorial in the local record office in Exeter, complete with the invoices from the stone masons and the bill for the lead letters. Always worth a look to see what is there. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> Sent: 19 October 2018 08:38 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Subject: [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/19/2018 02:35:05
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Graham Parnell
    3. A committee was definitely formed here in Silverton, but I have failed to find any minutes from their meetings. Mistakes were made though: a Boer War veteran, a Major, came out of retirement at the age of 54, and was given an administrative role in Ireland, but was retired from this due to ill-health in 1916. He died in March 1917, and his inquest decided his death was due to a fall down the stairs at his home. He was included amongst the names on both village memorials; strange that he happened to be the son of a previous rector. A casualty was also omitted and his name was included a couple of years later after agreement at a parish council meeting. Also a name is included, but after many hours searching I have failed to find any connection with this casualty in Silverton, who he was or how and when he died. His recorded name is William H Dawe, but that is all that is known of him. Graham Parnell in Silverton -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne [mailto:jon.frayne@gmail.com] Sent: 19 October 2018 08:38 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/19/2018 02:19:23
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Joy Langdon
    3. Have you tried searching newspapers? Casualties with an association to a village are often mentioned. My grandmother's cousin was employed by the Duke of Bedford and he appears on both the Milton Abbot and the Woburn war memorials. In 1911 he is listed at Endsleigh which at that time was the Duke's fishing and hunting lodge so he may never have actually lived at Woburn. His brother had emigrated to Canada and served in the Canadian forces and he is also on the Milton Abbot war memorial. Joy ----Original message---- From : jon.frayne@gmail.com Date : 19/10/2018 - 08:38 (GMTST) To : devon@rootsweb.com, sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc : President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org Subject : [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10

    10/19/2018 04:43:42
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Ros Haywood
    3. I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" - no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... Ros Haywood ------ Original Message ------ From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 Subject: [DEV] War memorials >Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war >memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended >and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. >This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if >there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The >reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot >trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know >why we memorialise him. > >Jon > >Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >From: Edna Marlow >Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >Cc: Bob Halberstadt >Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One > >Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. > >Edna M - sunny Ottawa > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sher Leetooze >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >To: devon@rootsweb.com >Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One > >Edna and list: > >The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display >either >for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging >for info and photos > >Sher > > >On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >> >> >> >>Let us remember all those who served: >> >>11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >> >>Edna - sunny Ottawa >> >>_______________________________________________ >>------------------------------------------ >>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>_______________________________________________ >>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>Unsubscribe >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>RootsWeb community > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

    10/19/2018 04:52:02
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Sher Leetooze
    3. Ros: How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book??  It could hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! Sher On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: > I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - > it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" > - no name!  My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of > these books, one for each regiment.  If you send me the name of your > mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he > died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... > > Ros Haywood > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> > To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; > "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> > Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> > Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 > Subject: [DEV] War memorials > >> Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war >> memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war >> ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be >> included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone >> know if there are any records retained anywhere about their >> deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our >> war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some >> of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Edna Marlow >> Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >> To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >> Cc: Bob Halberstadt >> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >> >> Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >> Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. >> >> Edna M  - sunny Ottawa >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sher Leetooze >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >> >> Edna and list: >> >> The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >> display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >> brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >> each - nurses included.  If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >> Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either >> for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting.  Well worth the digging >> for info and photos >> >> Sher >> >> >> On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Let us remember all those who served: >>> >>> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>> >>> Edna - sunny Ottawa >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS >>> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>> RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

    10/19/2018 06:42:22
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Andrew Radgick
    3. Names for memorials would have put forward by family members or others who wished the fallen to be remembered. Without records from the organisning committee, it is not possible to know the criteria that were used. A church local to me had two men who died during training in the UK, and who never went abroad - one is listed on the memorial and the other isn't. Andrew RadgickAuthor, of "Bracknell's Great War Fallen" On Saturday, 20 October 2018, 01:42:50 BST, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: Ros: How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book??  It could hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! Sher On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: > I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - > it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" > - no name!  My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of > these books, one for each regiment.  If you send me the name of your > mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he > died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... > > Ros Haywood > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> > To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; > "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> > Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> > Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 > Subject: [DEV] War memorials > >> Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war >> memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war >> ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be >> included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone >> know if there are any records retained anywhere about their >> deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our >> war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some >> of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >> >> Jon >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Edna Marlow >> Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >> To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >> Cc: Bob Halberstadt >> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >> >> Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >> Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. >> >> Edna M  - sunny Ottawa >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sher Leetooze >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >> >> Edna and list: >> >> The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >> display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >> brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >> each - nurses included.  If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >> Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either >> for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting.  Well worth the digging >> for info and photos >> >> Sher >> >> >> On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Let us remember all those who served: >>> >>> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>> >>> Edna - sunny Ottawa >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS >>> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>> RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/20/2018 02:12:41
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Ros Haywood
    3. Sher Well, I got my copy from ebay; I don't have another source, sorry. Ros ------ Original Message ------ From: "Sher Leetooze" <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> To: "Ros Haywood" <ros.haywood@gmail.com>; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Sent: 20/10/2018 01:42:22 Subject: Re: [DEV] War memorials >Ros: > >How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book?? It could >hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! > >Sher > > >On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: >>I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - >>it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" >>- no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of >>these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your >>mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he >>died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... >> >>Ros Haywood >> >>------ Original Message ------ >>From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> >>To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; >>"sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> >>Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> >>Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 >>Subject: [DEV] War memorials >> >>>Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war >>>memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war >>>ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be >>>included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone >>>know if there are any records retained anywhere about their >>>deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our >>>war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some >>>of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >>> >>>Jon >>> >>>Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>>From: Edna Marlow >>>Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >>>To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >>>Cc: Bob Halberstadt >>>Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>>Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >>>Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. >>> >>>Edna M - sunny Ottawa >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Sher Leetooze >>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >>>To: devon@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>>Edna and list: >>> >>>The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >>>display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >>>brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >>>each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >>>Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display >>>either >>>for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging >>>for info and photos >>> >>>Sher >>> >>> >>>On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Let us remember all those who served: >>>> >>>>11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>>> >>>>Edna - sunny Ottawa >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>------------------------------------------ >>>>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>>(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>>Unsubscribe >>>>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>>RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>------------------------------------------ >>>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>Unsubscribe >>>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>------------------------------------------ >>>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>Unsubscribe >>>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>RootsWeb community >> > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >https://www.avg.com >

    10/20/2018 03:23:58
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Adrian Bruce
    3. On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 01:42, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book?? It could > hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! > > On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: > > I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - > > it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" "UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919" is a collection on Ancestry, containing the 81(?) volumes of the original publication from HMSO - presumably taken from the Naval and Military Press Ltd who "reprinted" those volumes on CDs. It is, so far as I checked, a text only collection. It's also on FindMyPast as a text-only collection. In both cases, the collections appear to be basic text items only and do not include any narrative. I'm sure - and would welcome contradictions - that I have seen and used the SDGW CDs at my local library and some of the entries had small narrative entries, like you sometime get in the CWGC database. I might be wrong. Theoretically there should be a match in terms of who was covered between the CWGC site and the SDGW books / CDs / collections. But a match in narrative - *if* narrative appears in SDGW - may be unlikely. Adrian

    10/20/2018 04:44:08
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. JOHN SLY
    3. Can I just emphasise that this refers to Soldiers Died..., so there will be no Stoker recorded John Sly On Saturday, 20 October 2018, 11:45, Adrian Bruce <abruce6155@gmail.com> wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 01:42, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book??  It could > hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! > > On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: > > I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - > > it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" "UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919" is a collection on Ancestry, containing the 81(?) volumes of the original publication from HMSO - presumably taken from the Naval and Military Press Ltd who "reprinted" those volumes on CDs. It is, so far as I checked, a text only collection. It's also on FindMyPast as a text-only collection. In both cases, the collections appear to be basic text items only and do not include any narrative. I'm sure - and would welcome contradictions - that I have seen and used the SDGW CDs at my local library and some of the entries had small narrative entries, like you sometime get in the CWGC database. I might be wrong. Theoretically there should be a match in terms of who was covered between the CWGC site and the SDGW books / CDs / collections. But a match in narrative - *if* narrative appears in SDGW - may be unlikely. Adrian _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/20/2018 10:45:49
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Ruth Wilson
    3. Dear Sher, I don’t have details of that book but I do have two volumes of ‘The Devonshire Regiment 1914-1918’ It was compiled by C.T.Atkinson and first published in 1926.It is a very detailed account of the operations the Devonshire regiment took part in. My copy however a reprint and has been purchased within the last year and seems to be by The Naval and Military Press Ltd. www.naval-military-press.com (It was a present so I cannot be sure where it was obtained) Ruth > On 20 Oct 2018, at 01:42, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ros: > > How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book?? It could hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! > > Sher > > > On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: >> I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" - no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... >> >> Ros Haywood >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> >> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> >> Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> >> Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 >> Subject: [DEV] War memorials >> >>> Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Edna Marlow >>> Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >>> To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: Bob Halberstadt >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>> Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >>> Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. >>> >>> Edna M - sunny Ottawa >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sher Leetooze >>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>> Edna and list: >>> >>> The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >>> display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >>> brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >>> each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >>> Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either >>> for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging >>> for info and photos >>> >>> Sher >>> >>> >>> On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let us remember all those who served: >>>> >>>> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>>> >>>> Edna - sunny Ottawa >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>> RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com <https://www.avg.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/20/2018 07:23:03
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Jonathan Frayne
    3. Many thanks to Cher and all who have contributed to my question about war memorials. It rather came to what I thought-I shall have to go back to the record office in Barnstaple and ask there-which I should have thought of in the first place! I think the process of asking in the local press is how they went about asking for names in the local area and then found it hard to turn down anyone whose family asked for their son, father, brother to be memorialised. The master stoker is memorialised in Plymouth where they have a large memorial to lost sailors. I have found out more about him, just no link to Atherington! Jon PS can I suggest the thread on Devonshire Regiment and Soldiers Died in the First World war should warrant a new thread or Terry will be making noises . . . Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ruth Wilson via DEVON Sent: 20 October 2018 20:49 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; Devon Cc: Ruth Wilson Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials Dear Sher, I don’t have details of that book but I do have two volumes of ‘The Devonshire Regiment 1914-1918’ It was compiled by C.T.Atkinson and first published in 1926.It is a very detailed account of the operations the Devonshire regiment took part in. My copy however a reprint and has been purchased within the last year and seems to be by The Naval and Military Press Ltd. www.naval-military-press.com (It was a present so I cannot be sure where it was obtained) Ruth > On 20 Oct 2018, at 01:42, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ros: > > How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book?? It could hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! > > Sher > > > On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: >> I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" - no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... >> >> Ros Haywood >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> >> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> >> Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> >> Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 >> Subject: [DEV] War memorials >> >>> Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Edna Marlow >>> Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >>> To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: Bob Halberstadt >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>> Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >>> Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. >>> >>> Edna M - sunny Ottawa >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sher Leetooze >>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>> Edna and list: >>> >>> The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >>> display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >>> brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >>> each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >>> Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either >>> for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging >>> for info and photos >>> >>> Sher >>> >>> >>> On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let us remember all those who served: >>>> >>>> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>>> >>>> Edna - sunny Ottawa >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>>> RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com <https://www.avg.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    10/21/2018 02:31:48
    1. [DEV] Re: War memorials
    2. Tony Vigars
    3. Dear Jon, I've come in on the end of this thread - so I hope I am not repeating something. Has anyone mentioned Todd Gray's excellent book: "Lest Devon Forgets (Service, Sacrifice and the Creation of Great War Memorials)"? Available at http://www.stevensbooks.co.uk/todd_grey_books/ldf.html and presumably through local bookshops on order or there are second hand copies available at Amazon. I say excellent though I haven't read it! My comment is based upon an excellent talk I heard Todd Gray give on the subject on two occasions so assume the content of the book will be likewise. He outlines the different ways different towns or villages reached a decision on a local memorial - there being no prescribed path. Hope this might help you and others. Incidentally the excellent book on Tavistock's Memorial " We Will Remember Them: The Men of Tavistock Who Died in the First World War" by Alex Metler & Gerry Woodcock reveals that one man named on the memorial never died as a war casualty, but abandoning his wife died a good deal later in Canada - if I remember the details correctly! Tony -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne [mailto:jon.frayne@gmail.com] Sent: 21 October 2018 21:32 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Ruth Wilson <ruthwilson1111@btinternet.com> Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials Many thanks to Cher and all who have contributed to my question about war memorials. It rather came to what I thought-I shall have to go back to the record office in Barnstaple and ask there-which I should have thought of in the first place! I think the process of asking in the local press is how they went about asking for names in the local area and then found it hard to turn down anyone whose family asked for their son, father, brother to be memorialised. The master stoker is memorialised in Plymouth where they have a large memorial to lost sailors. I have found out more about him, just no link to Atherington! Jon PS can I suggest the thread on Devonshire Regiment and Soldiers Died in the First World war should warrant a new thread or Terry will be making noises . . . Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ruth Wilson via DEVON Sent: 20 October 2018 20:49 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; Devon Cc: Ruth Wilson Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials Dear Sher, I don’t have details of that book but I do have two volumes of ‘The Devonshire Regiment 1914-1918’ It was compiled by C.T.Atkinson and first published in 1926.It is a very detailed account of the operations the Devonshire regiment took part in. My copy however a reprint and has been purchased within the last year and seems to be by The Naval and Military Press Ltd. www.naval-military-press.com (It was a present so I cannot be sure where it was obtained) Ruth > On 20 Oct 2018, at 01:42, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ros: > > How on earth can I get a copy of that Devon Regiment book?? It could hold a lot of information I've been searching for!! > > Sher > > > On 10/19/2018 5:52 AM, Ros Haywood wrote: >> I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" - no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... >> >> Ros Haywood >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> >> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; >> "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> >> Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> >> Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 >> Subject: [DEV] War memorials >> >>> Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >>> >>> From: Edna Marlow >>> Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >>> To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: Bob Halberstadt >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>> Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township >>> Historical Society here in Ottawa. >>> >>> Edna M - sunny Ottawa >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sher Leetooze >>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One >>> >>> Edna and list: >>> >>> The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >>> display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >>> brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >>> each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an >>> Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own >>> display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well >>> worth the digging for info and photos >>> >>> Sher >>> >>> >>> On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let us remember all those who served: >>>> >>>> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >>>> >>>> Edna - sunny Ottawa >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>>> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and >>>> supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>> RootsWeb community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >>> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>> RootsWeb community >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com <https://www.avg.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

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