Hello Paul On 29 September 2016 at 10:23, Paul Hockie <[email protected]> wrote: > Pre 1858 wills, like England, were probated in ecclesiastical courts based > on bishoprics.. A number of sees cross the border. Derry, for example, > includes a chunk of north-west Donegal. > For Ireland, you need to know at least the county to know which database to > use. Would I be correct in thinking that it would only be the Church of Ireland that would have been allowed to administer wills prior to 1858, or would I need to investigate RC sources as well. I know that there was a marriage licence issued to Simon Cockeram and Mary Cosgrave by the diocese of Cloyne in 1814. I've not found the marriage itself in any of Church of Ireland Cloyne parishes as yet. I have a suspicion that Simon was C of E but that the Cosgraves were RC. I have however found one record that looks interesting at https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/68e5240076215 The Thomas Edwards who married Mary Cosgrave after Simon Cochrane's death was an engineer and they lived most of the 1820s and 1830s in Bristol. I wonder whether an engineer in the 1820s or 1830s is likely to be connected with the railways or whether those dates are too early. Regards Peter

Peter, Wills were one of the churches secular functions.. Ireland is a bit like Devon relying on Victorian calendars and indices. Most of these have been published in one form or another. I would recommend getting a copy of Tracing your Cork Ancestors published by Flyleaf Press. The book has a fairly comprehensive list of what records have survived , including parish records. In England/Wales marriage licences stated the church where the marriage was authorised to take place.. This was probably true for Ireland but I have never had need to check . Where was the licence referenced? Beware of the term engineer. It referred to anyone who worked with engines. At this time it was more likely to refer to the operator of a mine pump. A dirty and dangerous job. The Stockton and Darlington Railway opened in 1825, the Liverpool, Manchester (Rocket) was 1830 and Irelands 1834. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter J. Richardson Sent: 29 September 2016 22:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] Ireland Will Calenders Hello Paul On 29 September 2016 at 10:23, Paul Hockie <[email protected]> wrote: > Pre 1858 wills, like England, were probated in ecclesiastical courts > based on bishoprics.. A number of sees cross the border. Derry, for > example, includes a chunk of north-west Donegal. > For Ireland, you need to know at least the county to know which > database to use. Would I be correct in thinking that it would only be the Church of Ireland that would have been allowed to administer wills prior to 1858, or would I need to investigate RC sources as well. I know that there was a marriage licence issued to Simon Cockeram and Mary Cosgrave by the diocese of Cloyne in 1814. I've not found the marriage itself in any of Church of Ireland Cloyne parishes as yet. I have a suspicion that Simon was C of E but that the Cosgraves were RC. I have however found one record that looks interesting at https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/68e5240076215 The Thomas Edwards who married Mary Cosgrave after Simon Cochrane's death was an engineer and they lived most of the 1820s and 1830s in Bristol. I wonder whether an engineer in the 1820s or 1830s is likely to be connected with the railways or whether those dates are too early. Regards Peter ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message