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    1. Re: [DEV] Help with travel records
    2. Paul Hockie via
    3. For clarity, the Place of Settlement was the parish/local authority that was responsible for social welfare, not only hard times but also old age, medical care and law and order. Usually males took their place of settlement from their father, daughters, initially from their fathers and then from their husbands. Although there was freedom of movement and employment, parishes were keen to ensure that settlers did not become a burden to the local ratepayers(local tax) and had the right to return them to their place of settlement. This system was pretty well standard throughout Europe. There were exceptions. Incomers who contributed to the rates or had a profession missing from the parish could apply for settlement. The industrial revolution and the growth of the industrial cities made the system unworkable as manufacturers demand for labour increased and it became impractical to return workers from the city to the countryside. The implication of the Familysearch document (which is also on FMP) is that this Rose Mardon was born in Ireland not in Devon. I did look for a page with the header information to confirm this related to the Ohio. A quick trawl through Family search shows that for Rose Mardons and variations there are other contenders. Cobh in the south and Derry in the north acted as hubs for both mainland Britain and Ireland with voyages originating in both places. The Titanic called in at Cobh on the way from Southampton. There was even a migration path from Hull to Liverpool using special trains to move Scandinavian emigrants, hence the number of Scandinavians on the list. The costal trade moved emigrants to the transatlantic ports and by the time of Rose's emigration the railways were also an effective way of getting to the transatlantic ports. While passenger lists and immigration documents are known to errors based mishearing, ignorance and the occasional laziness, both passenger documents show this Rose Mardon to be born in Ireland, probably of an Irish father, Both may be an error or she may have lied to take advantage of the assisted passage scheme that the Familysearch document implies. However, if she had a fiancĂ©e in the US, this should not have been necessary. From Devon there are easier routes. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce via Sent: 25 June 2016 23:25 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] Help with travel records The one thing I would say, having checked the image above is that it does NOT say "last resident Ireland", it says "Last Legal Settlement Ireland". Notice also at the top, it says,"An Act for the Relief ... of the Poor". Now, I've no understanding at all of the Poor Law in Pennsylvania, but if it's anything like that in the UK, the place of settlement was where you got sent back to if you fell on hard times because they weren't paying for you here, thank you. For ordinary people, their place of settlement would start out as their birthplace and it would be quite difficult, in the absence of a long settled job, to alter it. Hence she could have been living in Liverpool but still kept her place of settlement as Ireland. Having checked on Ancestry, I find it difficult to find details of the voyage, so, on a quick glance, I can't find the route. But gut feeling is that transatlantic shipping did not start in a place like Cobh. But nothing I've seen so far comes close to *confirming* where she got on. It's perfectly possible that she sailed from Liverpool. It's just as possible that she got on at Cobh / Queenstown. Adrian ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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