I would agree with this, it did occur to me when I took part in a DNA project that I came from a long line of dutiful wives! My own experience with Y chromosome testing - for which, of course, my brother had to provide the sample, is that the results did indeed closely follow the 'paper trail' insofar as it was known. It was part of the Anthony Hoskins project organised among the known descendants of a chap who emigrated to America in 1650 from Dorset. I knew that my Devon Hoskins ancestors also came, in the late 16th century, from Dorset, where they were known to have settled by the reign of Henry V, although where they came from before that was a matter of conjecture. My uncle, W G Hoskins had discounted a theory put forward that the family were connected to one known to have originated in Herefordshire, but the DNA showed strong evidence that this was indeed the case, that the family did descend from one or more Norman ancestors who had settled in the Welsh Marches, and that family traditions chime both with known migration patterns and with the DNA evidence. Oddly enough, I proved to be more closely related to the American descendants of Anthony Hoskins than I was to the English Hoskins descended from those who remained in Dorset. Of course, when you get back far enough, the surname becomes somewhat irrelevant, as before the general usage of surnames, several descendants of a common ancestor would have acquired different surnames anyway, regardless of their actual paternity. Angela in Exmouth ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 10/06/2016 - 22:57 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : [DEV] DNA testing One thing I've noticed with regard to DNA testing, while it does prove that there is a link between two people with known DNA, there is one flaw. Unless we dig up all known named graves in say Devon and take DNA samples we are unlikely to ever know exactly who in ancient Devon we could actually be descended from. DNA will show exactly where the generations join, but not who they were. To me there is only one possible way of knowing our ancestory is down the female line. Only one person can be the mother of a child, but any male can be the father. This still depends on if the information we have is of the correct mother. Unless we invent time travel, sorting out our family pedigrees will always be one of a lot of guess work. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Angela and all I have a yDNA test paternal - for me a waste of time no matches with the surname. I have a mtDNA maternal - waste of time for me no matches in a searchable timescale. I was about to give up on DNA testing when someone mention Autosomal DNA testing as per AncestryDNA, 23andme and Family Tree DNA Family Finder test. This tests all 23 chromosomes and finds matches with anyone in your test up to 4th/5th. This immediately started me find 4th and 5th cousins matches. These turn out to be descendants of people who had disappeared from my tree by emigration or descendants of those daughters who suddenly disappear from the census and you can't find a marriage or death for. It's great fun finding the paper trails to these matches, you do need a worldwide Ancestry of FMP sub to make the most of it. I now manage tests for myself, paternal 1st cousin, wife , her 96 year old father, 92 year mother and a friend who knows that the father on her birth certificate is not her biological father. If you are adopted there is a lot of help out there to find your biological parents. Mike Fisher in a damp Droitwich On 11/06/2016 10:30, ANGELA MARKS via wrote: > I would agree with this, it did occur to me when I took part in a DNA project that I came from a long line of dutiful wives! > My own experience with Y chromosome testing - for which, of course, my brother had to provide the sample, is that the results did indeed closely follow the 'paper trail' insofar as it was known. It was part of the Anthony Hoskins project organised among the known descendants of a chap who emigrated to America in 1650 from Dorset. I knew that my Devon Hoskins ancestors also came, in the late 16th century, from Dorset, where they were known to have settled by the reign of Henry V, although where they came from before that was a matter of conjecture. > My uncle, W G Hoskins had discounted a theory put forward that the family were connected to one known to have originated in Herefordshire, but the DNA showed strong evidence that this was indeed the case, that the family did descend from one or more Norman ancestors who had settled in the Welsh Marches, and that family traditions chime both with known migration patterns and with the DNA evidence. > Oddly enough, I proved to be more closely related to the American descendants of Anthony Hoskins than I was to the English Hoskins descended from those who remained in Dorset. > Of course, when you get back far enough, the surname becomes somewhat irrelevant, as before the general usage of surnames, several descendants of a common ancestor would have acquired different surnames anyway, regardless of their actual paternity. > > Angela in Exmouth >

My mother's Pincombe line goes back to 1485 at North Molton and I manage the Pincombe one name study plus the yDNA study at FT DNA. We have had good luck with the yDNA study. My fourth cousin tested his yDNA and it is a match with a known 5th cousin proving our specific line back to John Pincombe and Mary Charlie who married 8 Nov 1767 at Bishops Nympton. Another tester has a known Pincombe line back to Barnstaple/Bideford and these lines are separated from the North Molton line back to the marriage of William Pincombe and Emotte Snow (circa 1560s). A fourth tester has US Ancestry back into the early 1700s and he too matches this line. So an interesting project although with one difficulty, the American Pinkham family descendants of the New Hampshire Pinkham family (emigrated in the 1660s) does not match. The original researchers had linked these two families. The autosomal DNA in Devon has also proven to be interesting with links to my 3rd, 4th and 5th cousins at the three big testing companies (FT DNA, Ancestry and 23 and Me). Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard)