Would love that it has been suggested for years that we tow a couple up from Antarctica but nothing comes of it except More talk Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:19 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 Marie McC: We can always top you up with a few icebergs. (;-)) Edna ~ sunny Ottawa

Marie McC: We can always top you up with a few icebergs. (;-)) Edna ~ sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Marie McCulloch Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:15 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 Be grateful you do not have the long, long droughts we have in Australia???. Marie Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:12 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 Hi Sher, We do get blizzards, think the worst winter was last year's all that ice. Stayed in five whole days. Hope this year will be better. Edna - sunny Ottawa PS: Got your message.... (;-))

Be grateful you do not have the long, long droughts we have in Australia…. Marie Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:12 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 Hi Sher, We do get blizzards, think the worst winter was last year's all that ice. Stayed in five whole days. Hope this year will be better. Edna - sunny Ottawa PS: Got your message.... (;-))

Hi Sher, We do get blizzards, think the worst winter was last year's all that ice. Stayed in five whole days. Hope this year will be better. Edna - sunny Ottawa PS: Got your message.... (;-)) -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:02 PM To: Edna Marlow ; [email protected] Subject: Re: DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 If you hadn't noticed, Edna - we have one!!! An all consuming one!!! And you are right in the middle of it some days!!<g> Sher On 10/26/2019 3:24 PM, Edna Marlow wrote: > Goodness gracious, you all need to get a hobby... > > Hugs to all ~ (;-)) > > Edna ~ Ottawa > > > -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 > > Edna: You sure are! And so quickly, too! I don't know what we'd do > without you and your googling! My save folder is full of your > suggestions!! > > Sher > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

If you hadn't noticed, Edna - we have one!!! An all consuming one!!! And you are right in the middle of it some days!!<g> Sher On 10/26/2019 3:24 PM, Edna Marlow wrote: > Goodness gracious, you all need to get a hobby... > > Hugs to all ~ (;-)) > > Edna ~ Ottawa > > > -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 > > Edna: You sure are! And so quickly, too! I don't know what we'd do > without you and your googling! My save folder is full of your > suggestions!! > > Sher > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Liz, If your DNA cousin could look for any Coaker family graves at Postbridge, it would be most appreciated. I know that there are several buried there. Many Thanks. Bill Full -----Original Message----- From: fh.researcher via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:58 AM To: [email protected] Cc: fh.researcher <[email protected]> Subject: [DEV] Postbridge Last week I visited a newly found DNA-cousin who lives in Postbridge a very tiny village on Dartmoor. He and his wife volunteer to clean the little church. I told him he MUST check to see the memorials in the churchyard. He will do. If anyone has ancestors there just let me know and I'll get him to look.LizSent from Samsung tablet. _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Last week I visited a newly found DNA-cousin who lives in Postbridge a very tiny village on Dartmoor. He and his wife volunteer to clean the little church. I told him he MUST check to see the memorials in the churchyard.  He will do. If anyone has ancestors there just let me know and I'll get him to look.LizSent from Samsung tablet.

Hello Ziggy, They could be the Skemps I've contacted, quite a few years ago. I am not aware that they are doctors. Though I don't recall discussing professions. Hmmm, trying to think of the names.one might have been a Thomas or had a grandfather by that name. I chatted a good bit with a Katy..and she is also a 'friend' on my Facebook page. They indeed are part of my line and are the group of people that shared the Memoirs of Paschal Widlake Skemp with me. There used to be an active Facebook group .a private group..but it must have shut down due to inactivity perhaps. Audrey Williams Stanaland Denver, North Carolina 28037 -----Original Message----- From: ziggy beseler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 9:39 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp Regarding the name Skemp - there are many Skemps in the Western Wisconsin (USA), LaCrosse, who are doctors and very well known. Lora in WI On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:01 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Ahh, that Kemp spelling, as well as S'kemp has appeared even in USA > records, and I do recall seeing Kemp in UK records. I very much > appreciate the time you have taken to give me details. The SKEMP line > cousin I have in Great Grimsby will also appreciate it. It is a bit > distant connection on her husband's line through a daughter's marriage > of George Skemp (a brother to my Charles Widlake Skemp) that did not > immigrate. At least that is what we found...but I need to spend some > time to see if George actually is brother to MY Charles or is it > another Charles. We'll figure it out now. What is confirming for what > you found is the 'mason' trade that was their trade in Dubuque, Iowa. > > You are right, the new info is thankfully not wiping out generations > of a family line, yikes, but I do need to get correct a generation or > two I think...along with the documents / records attached. Will have > to squeeze in computer time as we are still in move-in stage of life, > having sold a huge house this summer when we bought a much smaller > house. We did a previous big move summer of 2016, moving over the > mountains from east Tennessee to western North Carolina. Then > completely renovated the house we bought, which was too big, but very > near the grandchildren and our oldest son. This time we bought a new, > much smaller home. Big-time downsizing because my husband and I are > the eldest child in our families, plus cared for our mothers who moved > to Tennessee from Texas...and thus we got most of the handed down items from parents to add to our own 'junk and stuff,' > which > includes genealogy and bins of old photos. It's not too hard to part > with excess furnishing or what-not collections, but I (we) keep what > we cherish and I work hard to find a way to display decorative things passed down. > Many our age are experiencing the same thing. Back to work...after I > vacuum up dog hair shed by our yellow lab, and dust. Those annoying > chores are interfering with my genealogy, lol. > > Joy, if you have any US research needs where I can help, please let me > know. > > Again, thanks Joy. And thanks to all of you on the list who work so > hard to help people researching. > Audrey > > -----Original Message----- > From: joy.langdon--- via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 7:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp > > > I am glad I was able to help. At least it doesn't demolish a branch > of your tree because they are all the same family, I have discovered > errors in my own tree that have meant weeks of work and several > generations have been swept away! > > I found the family on the 1861 census at 12 High Street, Bilston, > Staffordshire. Findmypast have mistranscribed Robert's surname as > Robert S Kemp so the family have the surname Kemp. > > Robert S Kemp Head 35 Hosier and lace man. North Tamerton, > Cornwall, > Elisa " Wife 39 Milliner > Challacombe, Devon# > William H Son 15 Assistant > Bideford, Devon > Charles W Son 13 Scholar > Bideford, Devon > Elisa C Dau 6 Scholar > Bilston, Staffordshire > Amy J Dau 5 > " > Robert Son 3 > " > Elizabeth H Dau 1 > " > Harriet C Lancey 20 Assistant Bratton > Fleming, Devon > Elizabeth Wootton 15 Apprentice Bloxwich, > Staffordshire > Jane Fisher 26 Servant > Willlenhall, Staffordshire > Elisa A King 15 Servant > Bilston, Staffordshire > > I think Charles's father, William, may be on the 1841 census at > Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. I am not completely sure but this is the > entry and some of the other names do fit with William Scant and Susan > Widlake's children and the older boys are masons. Ages were rounded > down on the 1841 census which is why siblings appear with the same age > and they are all born out of county. > Lamington Place, Cheltenham > Thomas Skemp 20 Mason > William Skemp 20 " > Samuel Skemp 12 > Maria Skemp 20 > > William Skemp and Susanna Wedlock (Wedlake?) baptised a son Samuel 2nd > Aug > 1829 at Mint Street Methodist, Exeter, Devon I think Thomas Skemp > appears on the 1851 census in Staffordshire, born > 1819 Plymstock, Devon, Minister of the Baptist chapel. He has a son > Charles W. Skemp and another William W Skemp and there is a probate > entry on FamilySearch for Thomas Skemp 3 May 1875 Gloucester, > beneficiaries William Widlake Skemp and Charles Widlake Skemp. There > is a baptism at Plymstock > 1818 for Thomas Scamp, son of William Scamp and Susanna, father's > occupation mason. > Maria may be Thomas's wife. > > Joy > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 26 Oct, 2019 At 04:27 > Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp > Joy, > If I could hug you, I definitely would do it! You do live up to your > name JOY, lol. > > Yes, I have been long confused by 2 men named Charles Widlake > Skemp...actually there is a 3rd one that went to and stayed in New York. > YES, my family did immigrate prior to 1871 as you mentioned in the > previous reply...they went to Illinois...then later into Dubuque, > Iowa. Some went into Minnesota and Wisconsin. When I connected with > some SKEMP kin on the line of Paschal Widlake Skemp, they shared his > memoirs ...which did confuse me a bit, and I think my confusion was, > in part, due to having the wrong Charles Widlake Skemp...and the wrong father. > > At some time in the past, I must have seen the William SCAMP info > ..."son of William and Susan, father mason" ...which is the trade my > SKEMPs brought with them. My great grandfather Charles Widlake Skemp > was a mason..a contractor and brick layer in Dubuque. > > Further to that, the fact that you found a RIDD connection now makes > perfect sense. It was a found cousin, Linda Skemp Heyer, (2nd cousin) > in Dubuque Iowa that had told me about the RIDD link possibility. I > visited Linda in Dubuque in about 2005, but have in the past few years > lost touch with Linda due to her moving to a new residence. Because my > family left Iowa when I was about 3 years old, moving to Indiana and > then down to Texas in 1949, I grew up seldom seeing my Iowa cousins, > so when I began researching around 1998, I had to do some sleuthing to > just track down family in Dubuque and elsewhere on my father's > WILLIAMS (Wilms, Willems) family who immigrated from Germany...and the > SKEMP that my German born grandfather Joseph Henry WILLIAMS (Heinrich > Joseph WILMS b 1883 Blankenheim, Germany) had married. I didn't even > have the correct surname, thinking the line was WILHELM, so I can tell > you I have had amazing good luck and wonderful help from some German > researchers who helped reveal roots back to Hoogeloon, The Netherlands > all the way back to 1500s. Also a found cousin in Bad Munstereifel, > Germany, whom I also visited, had a wealth of history on his mother's > RIQUIER line...(My paternal grandfather Heinrich Joseph Wilms had a > RIQUIER grandmother) which was brand new data shared with me by the > German researchers in the Eifel region of the Nordheim Westfalen. It > is a long, long story that I won't elaborate on further, but is > another example of my great, good fortune in researching...that and my stubborn persistence, lol. > I love the research. > > Now, you have helped with a long mystery and my erroneous info. I > think that at one time in one of my old versions of Family Tree Maker > I had part of the info as to Charles' parents correct, but I recall > losing some FTM data years ago when converting to a new FTM upgrade. > That might be when I grabbed the wrong parents and went astray. Even > though the Lorna Doone story is a mix of fictionalized history, there > is that RIDD name, and no doubt why my cousin alluded to the Lorna > Doone story. > > THANK you from the bottom to top of my heart. I shall carefully study > what you found and work to correct my tree. > > Hugs and some big kisses sent via the net from North Carolina in the USA! > I > am now 76 years old and still travel with my 75 year old husband. (I > refuse to be 'old' yet, lol. We are still mobile and reasonably > active...Devon and Cornwall are on my list to visit. Also Wales. > Might do it next year ...the sooner, the better. We also would like > to visit Halifax and nearby Stainland or Stanland, which we believe is > in area of my husband's STANALAND roots prior to immigrating late > 1600s to America...long roots here. > > Audrey Williams Stanaland > Denver, North Carolina > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

To Paul's question, I have researched the event in publications and newspapers and have a large collection of reports. What I am specifically looking for are stories of individuals and families who experienced the event whose names may not be attached to any published article. Stories told by survivors to their offspring and descendants will add to the compilation I am making. Wayne On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 9:44 AM Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wayne, > > Have you used newspapers, either FMP or British Library. Search using different place names and different terms for blizzard - storm, winds etc. Also stories were syndicated so you will find articles in papers across the country. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Shepheard [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 26 October 2019 15:44 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] The Blizzard of 1891 > > I would like to hear from anyone whose ancestors were in Cornwall, > Devon or Somerset when the Great Blizzard of 1891 hit the region > (March 9th). I am compiling stories concerning the event that may have > been passed down through the generations. > > You can respond here or email me at wshepheard at shaw dot ca. > > Wayne Shepheard > OPC for Cornwood, Harford, Plympton St. Mary & Plympton St. Maurice > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I'll second that Paul. As a senior I just can't afford to join so many different sites and more and more rely on collaboration. And living in Canada I don't have the option of visiting any of the Archives or Record Offices in person. Cheers, Nancy Frey, Windsor, ON, Canada OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset [email protected] On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:07 AM Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jane, > > I believe that FMP is updated some time after the new scans are added by the British Library. > > For UK users, last year FMP transferred Ireland to UK the subscription and Newspapers to the Worldwide subscription. It starts looking expensive if you main field of search is the UK. > > Cheers > > Paul >

Wayne, Have you used newspapers, either FMP or British Library. Search using different place names and different terms for blizzard - storm, winds etc. Also stories were syndicated so you will find articles in papers across the country. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Shepheard [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 October 2019 15:44 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] The Blizzard of 1891 I would like to hear from anyone whose ancestors were in Cornwall, Devon or Somerset when the Great Blizzard of 1891 hit the region (March 9th). I am compiling stories concerning the event that may have been passed down through the generations. You can respond here or email me at wshepheard at shaw dot ca. Wayne Shepheard OPC for Cornwood, Harford, Plympton St. Mary & Plympton St. Maurice _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Jane, I believe that FMP is updated some time after the new scans are added by the British Library. For UK users, last year FMP transferred Ireland to UK the subscription and Newspapers to the Worldwide subscription. It starts looking expensive if you main field of search is the UK. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lucas via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 October 2019 12:56 To: [email protected] Cc: Jane Lucas Subject: [DEV] Re: US & Canada sources for records for Devon research (was Re: Re: FTM 2109) Hi Paul Yes, thanks. I think that is the same site I use sometimes because it’s easier to use. If I find something I can then go to it from FMP.. where it’s included in the subscription. Jane > On 26 Oct 2019, at 12:39, Paul Hockie <[email protected]> wrote: > >  > A copy of every newspaper (and book) published in Britain is sent to the British Library. This includes Ireland up to 1923. The BL have been OCR scanning these for a number of years and are the source for FMP etc. Searching the OCR scans is free and there are some per image and week subscriptions to download images. > > Cheers > > Paul _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Ziggy, Do you by chance live in Wisconsin? They could be the Skemps I’ve contacted, quite a few years ago. I am not aware that they are doctors. Though I don’t recall discussion professions. Hmmm, trying to think of the names…one might have been a Thomas or had a grandfather by that name. I chatted a good bit with a Katy..and she is also a ‘friend’ on my Facebook page. They indeed are part of my line and are the group of people that shared the Memoirs of Paschal Widlake Skemp with me. There used to be an active Facebook group …a private group..but it must have shut down due to inactivity perhaps. Audrey Williams Stanaland Denver, North Carolina 28037 From: ziggy beseler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 9:39 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp Regarding the name Skemp - there are many Skemps in the Western Wisconsin (USA), LaCrosse, who are doctors and very well known. Lora in WI On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:01 AM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Ahh, that Kemp spelling, as well as S'kemp has appeared even in USA records, and I do recall seeing Kemp in UK records. I very much appreciate the time you have taken to give me details. The SKEMP line cousin I have in Great Grimsby will also appreciate it. It is a bit distant connection on her husband's line through a daughter's marriage of George Skemp (a brother to my Charles Widlake Skemp) that did not immigrate. At least that is what we found...but I need to spend some time to see if George actually is brother to MY Charles or is it another Charles. We'll figure it out now. What is confirming for what you found is the 'mason' trade that was their trade in Dubuque, Iowa. You are right, the new info is thankfully not wiping out generations of a family line, yikes, but I do need to get correct a generation or two I think...along with the documents / records attached. Will have to squeeze in computer time as we are still in move-in stage of life, having sold a huge house this summer when we bought a much smaller house. We did a previous big move summer of 2016, moving over the mountains from east Tennessee to western North Carolina. Then completely renovated the house we bought, which was too big, but very near the grandchildren and our oldest son. This time we bought a new, much smaller home. Big-time downsizing because my husband and I are the eldest child in our families, plus cared for our mothers who moved to Tennessee from Texas...and thus we got most of the handed down items from parents to add to our own 'junk and stuff,' which includes genealogy and bins of old photos. It's not too hard to part with excess furnishing or what-not collections, but I (we) keep what we cherish and I work hard to find a way to display decorative things passed down. Many our age are experiencing the same thing. Back to work...after I vacuum up dog hair shed by our yellow lab, and dust. Those annoying chores are interfering with my genealogy, lol. Joy, if you have any US research needs where I can help, please let me know. Again, thanks Joy. And thanks to all of you on the list who work so hard to help people researching. Audrey -----Original Message----- From: joy.langdon--- via DEVON [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 7:53 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp I am glad I was able to help. At least it doesn't demolish a branch of your tree because they are all the same family, I have discovered errors in my own tree that have meant weeks of work and several generations have been swept away! I found the family on the 1861 census at 12 High Street, Bilston, Staffordshire. Findmypast have mistranscribed Robert's surname as Robert S Kemp so the family have the surname Kemp. Robert S Kemp Head 35 Hosier and lace man. North Tamerton, Cornwall, Elisa " Wife 39 Milliner Challacombe, Devon# William H Son 15 Assistant Bideford, Devon Charles W Son 13 Scholar Bideford, Devon Elisa C Dau 6 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire Amy J Dau 5 " Robert Son 3 " Elizabeth H Dau 1 " Harriet C Lancey 20 Assistant Bratton Fleming, Devon Elizabeth Wootton 15 Apprentice Bloxwich, Staffordshire Jane Fisher 26 Servant Willlenhall, Staffordshire Elisa A King 15 Servant Bilston, Staffordshire I think Charles's father, William, may be on the 1841 census at Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. I am not completely sure but this is the entry and some of the other names do fit with William Scant and Susan Widlake's children and the older boys are masons. Ages were rounded down on the 1841 census which is why siblings appear with the same age and they are all born out of county. Lamington Place, Cheltenham Thomas Skemp 20 Mason William Skemp 20 " Samuel Skemp 12 Maria Skemp 20 William Skemp and Susanna Wedlock (Wedlake?) baptised a son Samuel 2nd Aug 1829 at Mint Street Methodist, Exeter, Devon I think Thomas Skemp appears on the 1851 census in Staffordshire, born 1819 Plymstock, Devon, Minister of the Baptist chapel. He has a son Charles W. Skemp and another William W Skemp and there is a probate entry on FamilySearch for Thomas Skemp 3 May 1875 Gloucester, beneficiaries William Widlake Skemp and Charles Widlake Skemp. There is a baptism at Plymstock 1818 for Thomas Scamp, son of William Scamp and Susanna, father's occupation mason. Maria may be Thomas's wife. Joy ------ Original Message ------ From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 26 Oct, 2019 At 04:27 Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp Joy, If I could hug you, I definitely would do it! You do live up to your name JOY, lol. Yes, I have been long confused by 2 men named Charles Widlake Skemp...actually there is a 3rd one that went to and stayed in New York. YES, my family did immigrate prior to 1871 as you mentioned in the previous reply...they went to Illinois...then later into Dubuque, Iowa. Some went into Minnesota and Wisconsin. When I connected with some SKEMP kin on the line of Paschal Widlake Skemp, they shared his memoirs ...which did confuse me a bit, and I think my confusion was, in part, due to having the wrong Charles Widlake Skemp...and the wrong father. At some time in the past, I must have seen the William SCAMP info ..."son of William and Susan, father mason" ...which is the trade my SKEMPs brought with them. My great grandfather Charles Widlake Skemp was a mason..a contractor and brick layer in Dubuque. Further to that, the fact that you found a RIDD connection now makes perfect sense. It was a found cousin, Linda Skemp Heyer, (2nd cousin) in Dubuque Iowa that had told me about the RIDD link possibility. I visited Linda in Dubuque in about 2005, but have in the past few years lost touch with Linda due to her moving to a new residence. Because my family left Iowa when I was about 3 years old, moving to Indiana and then down to Texas in 1949, I grew up seldom seeing my Iowa cousins, so when I began researching around 1998, I had to do some sleuthing to just track down family in Dubuque and elsewhere on my father's WILLIAMS (Wilms, Willems) family who immigrated from Germany...and the SKEMP that my German born grandfather Joseph Henry WILLIAMS (Heinrich Joseph WILMS b 1883 Blankenheim, Germany) had married. I didn't even have the correct surname, thinking the line was WILHELM, so I can tell you I have had amazing good luck and wonderful help from some German researchers who helped reveal roots back to Hoogeloon, The Netherlands all the way back to 1500s. Also a found cousin in Bad Munstereifel, Germany, whom I also visited, had a wealth of history on his mother's RIQUIER line...(My paternal grandfather Heinrich Joseph Wilms had a RIQUIER grandmother) which was brand new data shared with me by the German researchers in the Eifel region of the Nordheim Westfalen. It is a long, long story that I won't elaborate on further, but is another example of my great, good fortune in researching...that and my stubborn persistence, lol. I love the research. Now, you have helped with a long mystery and my erroneous info. I think that at one time in one of my old versions of Family Tree Maker I had part of the info as to Charles' parents correct, but I recall losing some FTM data years ago when converting to a new FTM upgrade. That might be when I grabbed the wrong parents and went astray. Even though the Lorna Doone story is a mix of fictionalized history, there is that RIDD name, and no doubt why my cousin alluded to the Lorna Doone story. THANK you from the bottom to top of my heart. I shall carefully study what you found and work to correct my tree. Hugs and some big kisses sent via the net from North Carolina in the USA! I am now 76 years old and still travel with my 75 year old husband. (I refuse to be 'old' yet, lol. We are still mobile and reasonably active...Devon and Cornwall are on my list to visit. Also Wales. Might do it next year ...the sooner, the better. We also would like to visit Halifax and nearby Stainland or Stanland, which we believe is in area of my husband's STANALAND roots prior to immigrating late 1600s to America...long roots here. 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Regarding the name Skemp - there are many Skemps in the Western Wisconsin (USA), LaCrosse, who are doctors and very well known. Lora in WI On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:01 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Ahh, that Kemp spelling, as well as S'kemp has appeared even in USA > records, > and I do recall seeing Kemp in UK records. I very much appreciate the time > you have taken to give me details. The SKEMP line cousin I have in Great > Grimsby will also appreciate it. It is a bit distant connection on her > husband's line through a daughter's marriage of George Skemp (a brother to > my Charles Widlake Skemp) that did not immigrate. At least that is what we > found...but I need to spend some time to see if George actually is brother > to MY Charles or is it another Charles. We'll figure it out now. What is > confirming for what you found is the 'mason' trade that was their trade in > Dubuque, Iowa. > > You are right, the new info is thankfully not wiping out generations of a > family line, yikes, but I do need to get correct a generation or two I > think...along with the documents / records attached. Will have to squeeze > in computer time as we are still in move-in stage of life, having sold a > huge house this summer when we bought a much smaller house. We did a > previous big move summer of 2016, moving over the mountains from east > Tennessee to western North Carolina. Then completely renovated the house we > bought, which was too big, but very near the grandchildren and our oldest > son. This time we bought a new, much smaller home. Big-time downsizing > because my husband and I are the eldest child in our families, plus cared > for our mothers who moved to Tennessee from Texas...and thus we got most of > the handed down items from parents to add to our own 'junk and stuff,' > which > includes genealogy and bins of old photos. It's not too hard to part with > excess furnishing or what-not collections, but I (we) keep what we cherish > and I work hard to find a way to display decorative things passed down. > Many our age are experiencing the same thing. Back to work...after I vacuum > up dog hair shed by our yellow lab, and dust. Those annoying chores are > interfering with my genealogy, lol. > > Joy, if you have any US research needs where I can help, please let me > know. > > Again, thanks Joy. And thanks to all of you on the list who work so hard to > help people researching. > Audrey > > -----Original Message----- > From: joy.langdon--- via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 7:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp > > > I am glad I was able to help. At least it doesn't demolish a branch of > your > tree because they are all the same family, I have discovered errors in my > own tree that have meant weeks of work and several generations have been > swept away! > > I found the family on the 1861 census at 12 High Street, Bilston, > Staffordshire. Findmypast have mistranscribed Robert's surname as Robert S > Kemp so the family have the surname Kemp. > > Robert S Kemp Head 35 Hosier and lace man. North Tamerton, > Cornwall, > Elisa " Wife 39 Milliner > Challacombe, Devon# > William H Son 15 Assistant > Bideford, Devon > Charles W Son 13 Scholar > Bideford, Devon > Elisa C Dau 6 Scholar > Bilston, Staffordshire > Amy J Dau 5 > " > Robert Son 3 > " > Elizabeth H Dau 1 > " > Harriet C Lancey 20 Assistant Bratton > Fleming, Devon > Elizabeth Wootton 15 Apprentice Bloxwich, > Staffordshire > Jane Fisher 26 Servant > Willlenhall, Staffordshire > Elisa A King 15 Servant > Bilston, Staffordshire > > I think Charles's father, William, may be on the 1841 census at Cheltenham, > Gloucestershire. I am not completely sure but this is the entry and some > of > the other names do fit with William Scant and Susan Widlake's children and > the older boys are masons. Ages were rounded down on the 1841 census which > is why siblings appear with the same age and they are all born out of > county. > Lamington Place, Cheltenham > Thomas Skemp 20 Mason > William Skemp 20 " > Samuel Skemp 12 > Maria Skemp 20 > > William Skemp and Susanna Wedlock (Wedlake?) baptised a son Samuel 2nd Aug > 1829 at Mint Street Methodist, Exeter, Devon I think Thomas Skemp appears > on > the 1851 census in Staffordshire, born > 1819 Plymstock, Devon, Minister of the Baptist chapel. He has a son > Charles > W. Skemp and another William W Skemp and there is a probate entry on > FamilySearch for Thomas Skemp 3 May 1875 Gloucester, beneficiaries William > Widlake Skemp and Charles Widlake Skemp. There is a baptism at Plymstock > 1818 for Thomas Scamp, son of William Scamp and Susanna, father's > occupation > mason. > Maria may be Thomas's wife. > > Joy > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 26 Oct, 2019 At 04:27 > Subject: [DEV] Re: Ridd and Skemp > Joy, > If I could hug you, I definitely would do it! You do live up to your name > JOY, lol. > > Yes, I have been long confused by 2 men named Charles Widlake > Skemp...actually there is a 3rd one that went to and stayed in New York. > YES, my family did immigrate prior to 1871 as you mentioned in the previous > reply...they went to Illinois...then later into Dubuque, Iowa. Some went > into Minnesota and Wisconsin. When I connected with some SKEMP kin on the > line of Paschal Widlake Skemp, they shared his memoirs ...which did confuse > me a bit, and I think my confusion was, in part, due to having the wrong > Charles Widlake Skemp...and the wrong father. > > At some time in the past, I must have seen the William SCAMP info ..."son > of > William and Susan, father mason" ...which is the trade my SKEMPs brought > with them. My great grandfather Charles Widlake Skemp was a mason..a > contractor and brick layer in Dubuque. > > Further to that, the fact that you found a RIDD connection now makes > perfect > sense. It was a found cousin, Linda Skemp Heyer, (2nd cousin) in Dubuque > Iowa that had told me about the RIDD link possibility. I visited Linda in > Dubuque in about 2005, but have in the past few years lost touch with Linda > due to her moving to a new residence. Because my family left Iowa when I > was > about 3 years old, moving to Indiana and then down to Texas in 1949, I grew > up seldom seeing my Iowa cousins, so when I began researching around 1998, > I > had to do some sleuthing to just track down family in Dubuque and elsewhere > on my father's WILLIAMS (Wilms, Willems) family who immigrated from > Germany...and the SKEMP that my German born grandfather Joseph Henry > WILLIAMS (Heinrich Joseph WILMS b 1883 Blankenheim, Germany) had married. I > didn't even have the correct surname, thinking the line was WILHELM, so I > can tell you I have had amazing good luck and wonderful help from some > German researchers who helped reveal roots back to Hoogeloon, The > Netherlands all the way back to 1500s. Also a found cousin in Bad > Munstereifel, Germany, whom I also visited, had a wealth of history on his > mother's RIQUIER line...(My paternal grandfather Heinrich Joseph Wilms had > a > RIQUIER grandmother) which was brand new data shared with me by the German > researchers in the Eifel region of the Nordheim Westfalen. It is a long, > long story that I won't elaborate on further, but is another example of my > great, good fortune in researching...that and my stubborn persistence, lol. > I love the research. > > Now, you have helped with a long mystery and my erroneous info. I think > that > at one time in one of my old versions of Family Tree Maker I had part of > the > info as to Charles' parents correct, but I recall losing some FTM data > years > ago when converting to a new FTM upgrade. That might be when I grabbed the > wrong parents and went astray. Even though the Lorna Doone story is a mix > of fictionalized history, there is that RIDD name, and no doubt why my > cousin alluded to the Lorna Doone story. > > THANK you from the bottom to top of my heart. I shall carefully study what > you found and work to correct my tree. > > Hugs and some big kisses sent via the net from North Carolina in the USA! > I > am now 76 years old and still travel with my 75 year old husband. (I refuse > to be 'old' yet, lol. We are still mobile and reasonably active...Devon and > Cornwall are on my list to visit. Also Wales. Might do it next year ...the > sooner, the better. We also would like to visit Halifax and nearby > Stainland or Stanland, which we believe is in area of my husband's > STANALAND > roots prior to immigrating late 1600s to America...long roots here. > > Audrey Williams Stanaland > Denver, North Carolina > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Bev, That’s lovely, do you mind if I share it on a Facebook page Marion Sent from Marion's IPad > On 27 Oct 2019, at 6:35 am, Beverley Edmonds <[email protected]> wrote: > > Found this yesterday in a magazine from the 1960's. I thought it cute. Hope everyone enjoys the read. > > A writing competition for young children on " what is a Grandmother". > > " What is a grandmother" ? A grandmother is a lady who has no children of her own so she like other people's little girls and boys. A grandfather is a man grandmother. He goes for walks with the boys and they talk about fishing and tractors. Grandmothers don't have to do anything but be there. They are old so they should not play hard or run. They should never say " Hurry up". Usually they are fat, but not too fat to tie the children's shoes. They wear glasses and funny underwear and they can take their teeth and gums off. They don't have to be smart, only answer questions why dogs hate cats and why God isn't married. They don't talk baby talk like visitors. When they read to us they don't skip bits or mind if its the same story over again. Everyone should have one, especially if they don't have television, because they are the only grown ups who have time. " > > Cheers > Bev > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Goodness gracious, you all need to get a hobby... Hugs to all ~ (;-)) Edna ~ Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 Edna: You sure are! And so quickly, too! I don't know what we'd do without you and your googling! My save folder is full of your suggestions!! Sher

That /*is*/ really cute, Bev. thanks! Sher On 10/26/2019 2:35 PM, Beverley Edmonds wrote: > Found this yesterday in a magazine from the 1960's. I thought it cute. > Hope everyone enjoys the read. > > A writing competition for young children on " what is a Grandmother". > > " What is a grandmother" ? A grandmother is a lady who has no children > of her own so she like other people's little girls and boys. A > grandfather is a man grandmother. He goes for walks with the boys and > they talk about fishing and tractors. Grandmothers don't have to do > anything but be there. They are old so they should not play hard or > run. They should never say " Hurry up". Usually they are fat, but not > too fat to tie the children's shoes. They wear glasses and funny > underwear and they can take their teeth and gums off. They don't have > to be smart, only answer questions why dogs hate cats and why God > isn't married. They don't talk baby talk like visitors. When they read > to us they don't skip bits or mind if its the same story over again. > Everyone should have one, especially if they don't have television, > because they are the only grown ups who have time. " > > Cheers > Bev > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Edna: You sure are! And so quickly, too! I don't know what we'd do without you and your googling! My save folder is full of your suggestions!! Sher On 10/26/2019 10:40 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > Thank you Wayne but I am only an expert Googler... > > LOL, > > Edna - Ottawa > (no snow yet) > > -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Holmes via DEVON > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Wayne Holmes > Subject: [DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 > > Hello Edna, > > Thank you. We always appreciate your willingness to assist others. > You are a wealth of information. > > Wayne Holmes > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 26, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Edna Marlow <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> ???You could go through the book: >> >> Blizzard in the West >> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/43758/43758-h/43758-h.htm >> >> Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Found this yesterday in a magazine from the 1960's. I thought it cute. Hope everyone enjoys the read. A writing competition for young children on " what is a Grandmother". " What is a grandmother" ? A grandmother is a lady who has no children of her own so she like other people's little girls and boys. A grandfather is a man grandmother. He goes for walks with the boys and they talk about fishing and tractors. Grandmothers don't have to do anything but be there. They are old so they should not play hard or run. They should never say " Hurry up". Usually they are fat, but not too fat to tie the children's shoes. They wear glasses and funny underwear and they can take their teeth and gums off. They don't have to be smart, only answer questions why dogs hate cats and why God isn't married. They don't talk baby talk like visitors. When they read to us they don't skip bits or mind if its the same story over again. Everyone should have one, especially if they don't have television, because they are the only grown ups who have time. " Cheers Bev

Thank you Wayne but I am only an expert Googler... LOL, Edna - Ottawa (no snow yet) -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Holmes via DEVON Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:17 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Wayne Holmes Subject: [DEV] Re: The Blizzard of 1891 Hello Edna, Thank you. We always appreciate your willingness to assist others. You are a wealth of information. Wayne Holmes Sent from my iPad > On Oct 26, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Edna Marlow <[email protected]> wrote: > > ???You could go through the book: > > Blizzard in the West > http://www.gutenberg.org/files/43758/43758-h/43758-h.htm > > Edna - sunny Ottawa