Devon & Cornwall don't mix Jane.  There's great rivalry.  The Cornish don't even know the correct way to put clotted cream and jam on a scone!  They also call grockels, emmets.  I give up! John On 4/11/2019 8:05 pm, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: > Hi Elizabeth > Yes, I think that’s right .. but I am still surprised at it somehow! This sentence for instance > > “.....the genetic differences between Cornwall and Devon are comparable to or greater than those between northern English and Scottish samples” > > > I would have expected there to be more mixing.. I find many surnames from my Devon families which also occur in Cornwall. I’ve never made a link between them but supposed that there must have been migration that I hadn’t traced. But this study makes it seem unlikely. > > Interesting. > Jane > > >> On 4 Nov 2019, at 02:20, Elizabeth Howard via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Is it hard to believe ? The Normans were quite small in number , I understand , and invading a saxon country Just us poor old Saxons weren’t quite so bright or well organised. !! My DNA says 45 pc English 32 pc Scandinavian and the rest a sort of mix of Balkan , Iberian etc My genes have come from no further north than St Albans nor south west than Devon. Which pretty much underlines my own genealogical findings. >> As to clusters I have recently met a young woman here in the east of England whose name is that of a tiny Lincolnshire village not 50 miles from here . And we have other place name families here also originating in Lincs so the busy east coast trading ports might well have been the anchors to keep these families close to home >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 01:54, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> According to this article the Normans contributed very little if anything go to our genetic makeup.. only the Anglo Saxons have had any impact. I remember reading about this study so I bookmarked it. >>> >>> It’s fascinating how there are genetic clusters which seem to have survived for millennia. I’d like to know more about the detail but can’t find much else about it. >>> >>> It is hard to believe Normans had no impact.... >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling around the country and county. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: Bill Hancock >>>> Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE >>>> >>>> Hi Judy, >>>> >>>> I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since >>>> goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think >>>> that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>> Nancy Frey, >>>> Windsor, ON, Canada >>>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> How bizarre - glad you could connect >>>>> I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation >>>>> Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married >>>>> Judy >>>>> BC Canada >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Elizabeth Yes, I think that’s right .. but I am still surprised at it somehow! This sentence for instance “.....the genetic differences between Cornwall and Devon are comparable to or greater than those between northern English and Scottish samples” I would have expected there to be more mixing.. I find many surnames from my Devon families which also occur in Cornwall. I’ve never made a link between them but supposed that there must have been migration that I hadn’t traced. But this study makes it seem unlikely. Interesting. Jane > On 4 Nov 2019, at 02:20, Elizabeth Howard via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is it hard to believe ? The Normans were quite small in number , I understand , and invading a saxon country Just us poor old Saxons weren’t quite so bright or well organised. !! My DNA says 45 pc English 32 pc Scandinavian and the rest a sort of mix of Balkan , Iberian etc My genes have come from no further north than St Albans nor south west than Devon. Which pretty much underlines my own genealogical findings. > As to clusters I have recently met a young woman here in the east of England whose name is that of a tiny Lincolnshire village not 50 miles from here . And we have other place name families here also originating in Lincs so the busy east coast trading ports might well have been the anchors to keep these families close to home > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 4 Nov 2019, at 01:54, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> According to this article the Normans contributed very little if anything go to our genetic makeup.. only the Anglo Saxons have had any impact. I remember reading about this study so I bookmarked it. >> >> It’s fascinating how there are genetic clusters which seem to have survived for millennia. I’d like to know more about the detail but can’t find much else about it. >> >> It is hard to believe Normans had no impact.... >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >>>> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling around the country and county. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Bill Hancock >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE >>> >>> Hi Judy, >>> >>> I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since >>> goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think >>> that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Nancy Frey, >>> Windsor, ON, Canada >>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >>> [email protected] >>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> How bizarre - glad you could connect >>>> I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation >>>> Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married >>>> Judy >>>> BC Canada >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

WOW!! awesome! On Monday, 4 November 2019, 10:31:36 am AWST, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: Sorry.. forgot the link.. I’ve put the Guardians take on it as well as the more in depth article. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/18/genetic-study-30-percent-white-british-dna-german-ancestry https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics Jane Lucas > On 4 Nov 2019, at 02:20, Elizabeth Howard via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is it hard to believe ?  The Normans were quite small in number , I understand , and invading a saxon country    Just us poor old Saxons weren’t quite so bright or well organised.  !!  My DNA says 45 pc English 32 pc Scandinavian and the rest a sort of mix of Balkan , Iberian etc  My genes have come from no further north than St Albans nor south west than Devon.  Which pretty much underlines my own genealogical findings. > As to clusters I have recently met a young woman here in the east of England whose name is that of a tiny Lincolnshire village not 50 miles from here .  And we have other place name families here also originating in Lincs so the busy east coast trading ports might well have been the anchors to keep these families close to home  > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 4 Nov 2019, at 01:54, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> According to this article the Normans contributed very little if anything go to our genetic makeup.. only the Anglo Saxons have had any impact. I remember reading about this study so I bookmarked it. >> >> It’s fascinating how there are genetic clusters which seem to have survived for millennia. I’d like to know more about the detail but can’t find much else about it. >> >> It is hard to believe Normans had no impact.... >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >>>> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling  around the country and county. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Bill Hancock >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE >>> >>> Hi Judy, >>> >>> I totally agree.  Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since >>> goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think >>> that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Nancy Frey, >>> Windsor, ON, Canada >>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >>> [email protected] >>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> How bizarre - glad you could connect >>>> I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation >>>> Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days.  I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married >>>> Judy >>>> BC Canada >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Sorry.. forgot the link.. I’ve put the Guardians take on it as well as the more in depth article. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/mar/18/genetic-study-30-percent-white-british-dna-german-ancestry https://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/population-genetics Jane Lucas > On 4 Nov 2019, at 02:20, Elizabeth Howard via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is it hard to believe ? The Normans were quite small in number , I understand , and invading a saxon country Just us poor old Saxons weren’t quite so bright or well organised. !! My DNA says 45 pc English 32 pc Scandinavian and the rest a sort of mix of Balkan , Iberian etc My genes have come from no further north than St Albans nor south west than Devon. Which pretty much underlines my own genealogical findings. > As to clusters I have recently met a young woman here in the east of England whose name is that of a tiny Lincolnshire village not 50 miles from here . And we have other place name families here also originating in Lincs so the busy east coast trading ports might well have been the anchors to keep these families close to home > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 4 Nov 2019, at 01:54, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> According to this article the Normans contributed very little if anything go to our genetic makeup.. only the Anglo Saxons have had any impact. I remember reading about this study so I bookmarked it. >> >> It’s fascinating how there are genetic clusters which seem to have survived for millennia. I’d like to know more about the detail but can’t find much else about it. >> >> It is hard to believe Normans had no impact.... >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >>>> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling around the country and county. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Bill Hancock >>> Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE >>> >>> Hi Judy, >>> >>> I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since >>> goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think >>> that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> Nancy Frey, >>> Windsor, ON, Canada >>> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >>> [email protected] >>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> How bizarre - glad you could connect >>>> I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation >>>> Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married >>>> Judy >>>> BC Canada >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Is it hard to believe ? The Normans were quite small in number , I understand , and invading a saxon country Just us poor old Saxons weren’t quite so bright or well organised. !! My DNA says 45 pc English 32 pc Scandinavian and the rest a sort of mix of Balkan , Iberian etc My genes have come from no further north than St Albans nor south west than Devon. Which pretty much underlines my own genealogical findings. As to clusters I have recently met a young woman here in the east of England whose name is that of a tiny Lincolnshire village not 50 miles from here . And we have other place name families here also originating in Lincs so the busy east coast trading ports might well have been the anchors to keep these families close to home Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Nov 2019, at 01:54, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > According to this article the Normans contributed very little if anything go to our genetic makeup.. only the Anglo Saxons have had any impact. I remember reading about this study so I bookmarked it. > > It’s fascinating how there are genetic clusters which seem to have survived for millennia. I’d like to know more about the detail but can’t find much else about it. > > It is hard to believe Normans had no impact.... > > Jane > > > > >> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling around the country and county. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Bill Hancock >> Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE >> >> Hi Judy, >> >> I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since >> goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think >> that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Nancy Frey, >> Windsor, ON, Canada >> OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset >> [email protected] >> >>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: >>> How bizarre - glad you could connect >>> I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation >>> Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married >>> Judy >>> BC Canada >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

According to this article the Normans contributed very little if anything go to our genetic makeup.. only the Anglo Saxons have had any impact. I remember reading about this study so I bookmarked it. It’s fascinating how there are genetic clusters which seem to have survived for millennia. I’d like to know more about the detail but can’t find much else about it. It is hard to believe Normans had no impact.... Jane > On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling around the country and county. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 > To: [email protected] > Cc: Bill Hancock > Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE > > Hi Judy, > > I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since > goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think > that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. > > Cheers, > > > Nancy Frey, > Windsor, ON, Canada > OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset > [email protected] > >>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: >> How bizarre - glad you could connect >> I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation >> Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married >> Judy >> BC Canada > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jan, I'm glad I read your message before going back and trying again. I would never have thought of that. Thanks. Nancy Frey, Windsor, ON, Canada OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset [email protected] On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:48 PM Jan Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nancy -- > > The e-membership renewal is working -- I was able to renew successfully, > Check your email inbox for a message from [email protected] -- the > description on the order summary says "e-membership". > > We do have to choose "Rest of the World" for our shipping region from the > drop-down and fill in addresses just as if we were ordering goods, but it > does work. (I wouldn't want e-members blocked out from ordering books and > CD-ROMs, just to spare us filling in a shipping address when we renewed an > e-membership.) > > Cheers, > Jan > > Jan Murphy > [email protected] > Moderator Pro Tempore > genealogy.stackexchange.com

You probably are. The last large addition of genes, until the late 20th century, was the Norman invasion, although, they were actually Northmen(Vikings!). The Black Death in 1350 reduced the population to about 2 million and since then the surviving genes have just been swirling around the country and county. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Frey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 November 2019 19:24 To: [email protected] Cc: Bill Hancock Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE Hi Judy, I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. Cheers, Nancy Frey, Windsor, ON, Canada OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset [email protected] On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: > > How bizarre - glad you could connect > > I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation > > Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married > > Judy > BC Canada > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Quite right about the musters, but fortunately his full service record is imaged on FindmyPast and it makes interesting reading. This was his second spell in the army. By the time of Millie’s birth he was a Sergeant in the 5th Battery, 1st Brigade, Northern Division. The interesting thing is that the record show that he was in St Helena (or in transit) from March 1892 to 10th August 1894 which probably means Millie was born in St Helena, even allowing for a long sea voyage. FamilySearch have imaged (but not indexed) the St Helena records but they require a visit to an affiliate or full Family History Library. The Society of Genealogists have a microfilm copy. There is a chance that she was “forgotten” in the excitement. You might find out more from about the Battery’s movements from Royal Artillery Museum Archive [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cheers Paul From: JOHN SLY [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 November 2019 01:29 To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: Re: [DEV] Re: Finding birth certificate? Sorry to disappoint you but there are no musters after 1888. Additionally the Artillery was broken down into batteries, brigades etc, and unless you know which battery you want the chances of success are low, even when musters were kept. John Sly On Thursday, 31 October 2019, 20:45:30 GMT, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: There is a chance that the regiment was preparing to move or even in transit and the registration was not top priority. Best place to check is the musters in Kew. You may find a Regimental history on Google. Cheers Paul Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Neil Simmons <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:29:43 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [DEV] Re: Finding birth certificate? Hi, I'm having problems finding the birth of my paternal grandmother, Millie Cocking. Born 23/1/1893 in Barracks on Drake's Island in Plymouth Sound. Father is Henry Cocking, Royal Artillery, and mother is Elisabeth (nee Forsdick). I can find births for her two elder bothers, Harry 1888 and Frank 1890, her immediately younger brother, Fred 1894, born on St Helena, then the rest of the extensive family of eleven children. Army Returns 1891-1895 only record Fred. She appears in the 1901 census and then in the 1911, by which time she is a domestic servant working for the Archer sisters. Any ideas? Neil ________________________________ _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/%20> and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/%20> ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY%20> Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/%20> and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/%20> ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY%20> Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Brian Those inquest reports can be harrowing reading. Jane Gould -----Original Message----- From: Brian Randell <[email protected]> Sent: 02 November 2019 22:01 To: [email protected] Cc: Brian Randell <[email protected]> Subject: [DEV] GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Hi: GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Major additions: • Devon - Court Records: Inquests Taken into Suspicious or Unexplained Deaths for 1904 (in Western Morning News) - transcript • Chittlehampton: Stray Burials 1714-1915 - transcript • Highweek: Thomas Foster Barham, MB [Obituary] (1869) - transcript • Northam: Property deeds relating to the 107 Irsha Street, Appledore (1900-1963) - transcript • Sheepstor: Sir James Brooke, KCB. [Obituary] (1867) - transcript • Tormoham: Richard Tonson Evanson MD [Obituary] (1872) - transcript Cheers Brian Randell — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You never know Brian.. I was browsing through those records one day when I found a name I recognised from the south hams but in Barnstaple. I thought it was coincidence of name not the same person. But when I started digging I discovered that it was indeed the same person. After her husband died in Staverton she had apparently gone to live in Landkey to be near her daughter and grandchildren.. I had never found a marriage for that daughter so I had been completely unaware of them. The death was only suspicious because she was reported as having been seen fit and well the day before. Her grand daughter found her. She’d had a stroke. So I then discovered a whole lot of cousins over there. She died in 1911. I went over to find the grave and found a whole lot more of the same family the churchyard. Someone is still putting flowers on the graves. All that from browsing through one of the articles you added to GENUKI. Very many thanks. Jane > On 3 Nov 2019, at 07:28, Brian Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Lorne > > You’re very welcome. :-) > > Lindsey Withers’ huge collection of transcripts of lengthy newspaper accounts of Devon inquests indeed provides fascinating reading and searching - one that I recommend everyone look at. > Unfortunately, from my personal point of view it has relatively little on North Devon, so there are very few mentions of Clovelly, which is where the Randells come from. > > Cheers > > Brian

Hi Lorne You’re very welcome. :-) Lindsey Withers’ huge collection of transcripts of lengthy newspaper accounts of Devon inquests indeed provides fascinating reading and searching - one that I recommend everyone look at. Unfortunately, from my personal point of view it has relatively little on North Devon, so there are very few mentions of Clovelly, which is where the Randells come from. Cheers Brian Sent from my iPhone On 3 Nov 2019, at 02:45, Lorne & Susan Campbell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Brain, Thanks for all your and your researcher’s contributions to GENUKI/Devon. Found a reference to one of my wife’s ancestors in the suspicious death records. Lorne Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Brian Randell<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 6:02 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Brian Randell<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [DEV] GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Hi: GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Major additions: • Devon - Court Records: Inquests Taken into Suspicious or Unexplained Deaths for 1904 (in Western Morning News) - transcript

Hi Brain, Thanks for all your and your researcher’s contributions to GENUKI/Devon. Found a reference to one of my wife’s ancestors in the suspicious death records. Lorne Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Brian Randell Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 6:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Brian Randell Subject: [DEV] GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Hi: GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Major additions: • Devon - Court Records: Inquests Taken into Suspicious or Unexplained Deaths for 1904 (in Western Morning News) - transcript

Oh well.. thanks Brian. Good to know it is seen as helpful. Jane Jane Lucas > On 2 Nov 2019, at 22:20, Brian Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jane: > > Your post prompted me to add a link to Stack Exchange’s Devon Genealogy section from GENUKI/Devon/Genealogy/. > > Thanks > > Cheers > > Brian > >> On 31 Oct 2019, at 09:16, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks from me too Jan.. I have also book marked your post, >> >> I use Stack Exchange genealogy and family history posts a lots. But I wasn’t sure if I should recommend it on this list? There were a couple of threads in there recently that I have added to my source list, particularly one about what records are available in a location and how to differentiate between same names. I like the way a question is analysed. >> Jane >> >> >>>> On 31 Oct 2019, at 00:16, Nancy Frey <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jan, >>> >>> Thanks so much for your input on FS catalogs. I must admit I am still >>> uncomfortable looking things up there, so I'm archiving your eMail for >>> my next foray. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > — > > School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, > Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG > EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 > URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you Jan, So much information but I will keep it handy. I guess I will track Stanley down one day. Liz Langford. -----Original Message----- From: Jan Murphy Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Finding Devon resources on FamilySearch (was Re: Re: Surname MARTIN) I looked at the catalog entry for the parishes mentioned by Paul, and at first glance, the situation is very odd. How can one have indexes of parish registers without any images to index? The publication date of the collection is from 2009, and the collection consists of digital images, which suggests to me this is a recent 'filming' project which was never on microfilm. You can see that all the entries don't have a film number --- they only have a DGS number. At first I thought, perhaps this parish was caught in the transition between FamilySearch's policy of not putting up registers until they had been indexed first, and their current policy of getting images ready for us to browse first, rather than making us wait for the index. If there had been an earlier filming for this parish, I would expect the films to be in the catalog under a film number. However, looking at the Film Notes, the magnifying-glass-only films are: Baptisms, v. 695/6, 1886-1919 (DGS 4635201) Baptisms, v. 768/1, 1919-1950 (DGS 4635218) I suspect the reason these images are not online yet are because of privacy issues. We are just now coming to the point where the most recent items on DGS 4635201 are 100 years old. This is not like the 1939 Register where all the images are public, but the most recent people who might be living are redacted. FamilySearch can't publish the register images until all of the entries on the roll (or virtual roll, in this case) have cleared the access restrictions, which are negotiated for each collection. The parish must have dictated which registers were allowed to be put online and which ones could be index-only. As part of the transition from microfilm to digital images, FamilySearch is re-negotiating all of the permissions before the images are put online. Of these two 'films', I would expect DGS 4635201 might show up eventually, but I wouldn't expect DGS 4635218 to be put online during my lifetime, since that sequence ends in 1950. Note too that other Devon records like some of the Bishop's Transcripts can be viewed online, but can't be downloaded -- if you want a copy, the user is directed to order one from the Devon County Council. If you need images from these items, try contacting the Plymouth and West Devon Record Office, giving the reference listed. Jan Murphy [email protected] Moderator Pro Tempore genealogy.stackexchange.com On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:45 AM Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > To answer the original question on the status of these films. To find the > status of a film go to "search catalogue" and enter the parish of film > number. This will result in a list of films a available for the parish. > The > final column of the list is "Format" and displays an icon. > Magnifying Glass - film has been indexed > Old cinema film can or dartboard - microfilmed and not yet imaged > Camera - imaged and available freely online > Camera with key - imaged but access restricted to either an associate > FamilySearch library or full library. This depends on the agreement > between > FamilySearch and the Archive. For some record this may switch to an > outside > source, for example US Federal sites. > > FamilySearch have stopped copying and distributing microfilm and started > disposing of their film collection leaving only a master copy stored in a > mountain in Utah (Nuclear bomb proof. You might not survive but the > microfilms will). Microfilm readers are being withdrawn and exiting films > are being sent to a good home even if the film has not been imaged. The UK > collection from the main library in South Kensington have been given to > the > Society of Genealogists. Films can be requested for priority imaging but I > don't know how effective this is. > > What is interesting is that the two films required, part of the England, > Devon, Plympton-Earls, Plympton St. Maurice, parish registers, 1616-1958 > collection, only show a Magnifying Glass, i.e. indexed. I can only guess > that FamilySearch has started denying that films are available even if > they > are available at the SoG and other places. Most of the films are > restricted > access but open browsing access includes Apprenticeship indentures, > Bastardy papers, Churchwardens accounts, Settlement certificates and > removal orders. Records you don't find on the subscription sites. BDMs are > restricted to "partner sites" - FMP. > > Cheers > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jane: Your post prompted me to add a link to Stack Exchange’s Devon Genealogy section from GENUKI/Devon/Genealogy/. Thanks Cheers Brian > On 31 Oct 2019, at 09:16, Jane Lucas via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks from me too Jan.. I have also book marked your post, > > I use Stack Exchange genealogy and family history posts a lots. But I wasn’t sure if I should recommend it on this list? There were a couple of threads in there recently that I have added to my source list, particularly one about what records are available in a location and how to differentiate between same names. I like the way a question is analysed. > Jane > > >> On 31 Oct 2019, at 00:16, Nancy Frey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Jan, >> >> Thanks so much for your input on FS catalogs. I must admit I am still >> uncomfortable looking things up there, so I'm archiving your eMail for >> my next foray. >> > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html

Hi: GENUKI/Devon - What's New (Oct 2019) Major additions: • Devon - Court Records: Inquests Taken into Suspicious or Unexplained Deaths for 1904 (in Western Morning News) - transcript • Chittlehampton: Stray Burials 1714-1915 - transcript • Highweek: Thomas Foster Barham, MB [Obituary] (1869) - transcript • Northam: Property deeds relating to the 107 Irsha Street, Appledore (1900-1963) - transcript • Sheepstor: Sir James Brooke, KCB. [Obituary] (1867) - transcript • Tormoham: Richard Tonson Evanson MD [Obituary] (1872) - transcript Cheers Brian Randell — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html

Nancy -- The e-membership renewal is working -- I was able to renew successfully, Check your email inbox for a message from [email protected] -- the description on the order summary says "e-membership". We do have to choose "Rest of the World" for our shipping region from the drop-down and fill in addresses just as if we were ordering goods, but it does work. (I wouldn't want e-members blocked out from ordering books and CD-ROMs, just to spare us filling in a shipping address when we renewed an e-membership.) Cheers, Jan Jan Murphy [email protected] Moderator Pro Tempore genealogy.stackexchange.com On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:22 PM Nancy Frey <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Terry, > > I tried to renew my online membership, but I'm not sure I was > successful. There's information asked for that doesn't apply to an > online sub and since I'm not in the UK there were things there that > confused me as well. I guess I'm just getting old! > > Hopefully it got through, > > Cheers, > > Nancy Frey, > Windsor, ON, Canada > OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset > [email protected] > >

Hi Judy, I totally agree. Since my entire maternal family were in Devon since goodness knows when until my branch emigrated to Canada, I often think that I am somehow related to everyone who lives in the County. Cheers, Nancy Frey, Windsor, ON, Canada OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset [email protected] On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Heywyre Akers <[email protected]> wrote: > > How bizarre - glad you could connect > > I just came across a match within my own family that matches with a distant family of my husband's - no there is definitely no blood relation > > Just goes to show you how close in proximity everyone lived in those days. I constantly come across matches that were on the same census as children and then years later got married > > Judy > BC Canada >

Hi Terry, I tried to renew my online membership, but I'm not sure I was successful. There's information asked for that doesn't apply to an online sub and since I'm not in the UK there were things there that confused me as well. I guess I'm just getting old! Hopefully it got through, Cheers, Nancy Frey, Windsor, ON, Canada OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset [email protected] On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Terry Leaman via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Pleased to announce the following additions to the Members' Area Surname > search- > 24,822 Pre 1813 Baptisms (no images) > 1,684 pre 1813 burials (Images) > 4,776 Memorial Inscriptions (gravestones) from 3045 photos > That takes the total available to over 1,500,000 names within the > surname search > > New Membership now open for 2020, Current members please renew ASAP. > > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/shop/membership.php > > Terry >