But surely the place to start is where you know the family were. The age of John suggests he could well have been the John Rickards baptised in Stoke Damerel in 1771. He was the son of James and Mary. James and Mary seem to have had 3 children baptised there, the other 2 being James Richards bap 1774 and Elizabeth Richards bap in 1777. She would fit nicely as the one who married in 1798. n.b. this is from a quick look - I have not checked that she didn't die in infancy or that the single child recorded as a Rickard wasn't the only child because the parents died etc. but I would suggest that is an area to follow up. The only trouble is it seems too obvious - John, you said you had failed in tracing Elizabeth Richards antecedents, maybe you a reason for ruling out this Elizabeth? The index on FMP shows a marriage of a James and Mary RICHARDS in Tamerton Foliot in 1767, you will need to check the BTs on FamilySearch for that as the PRs don't survive - and they show the index is in error, the entry clearly says James RICKARDS. It would be worth looking in Tamerton for a child (or even 2) before John. Teresa On 15/11/2019 17:00, joy.langdon--- via DEVON wrote: > > Hi, > > Rickard is a variation for Richards in Cornwall.  There is a baptism > at St Teath, Cornwall 8th June 1778 for Bridget Lane daughter of John > and Bridget.  Unfortunately, the names Richards and Rickard are very > common in Devon and Cornwall so it will be difficult to identify John > or Elizabeth without something else to use.  The name Lois is quite > unusual, have you found it in the Stear ancestry?  Also Clifton, do > you know where that came from? > > Joy > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Our Mail" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, 14 Nov, 2019 At 00:06 > Subject: [DEV] Elizabeth Richards 1781 > Elizabeth Richards married Richard Stear on 22 May 1798 in Stoke > Damerel church, Devonport  (Family Bible and parish record).   She > died on 17 Aug 1807 (Family Bible) and was buried at Stoke Damerel on > 20 Aug 1897 (parish record).  Richard and Elizabeth had 3 children:- > John (2 Mar 1799 - Oct 1780), John Richards (31 Oct 1800 - ?) and my > gg grandmother Lois Clifton (5 Oct 1805 - 26 Jan 1894), who married > Edward Bennee in 1826. > > Thanks to greatly appreciated assistance of this list and that of the > South Hams, and the discovery that one of the witnesses at the > marriage was an aunt, I was able to trace the Stear family back a > further 3 generations.  However I must now confess to complete failure > in tracing Elizabeth Richards antecedents.  Does anyone know of this > lady? > > I would add that on the page in the bible recording the marriage of > Richard & Elizabeth is written, at the foot of the page, Bridget > Rickard died Oct 20th 1832 aged 53 years, John Rickard died Dec 4th > 1833 aged 63 years.  Bridget was buried at Stoke Damerel but I haven't > located John's. However they were married at Stoke Damerel in 1802.  > Bridget's maiden name was Lane.  The names Rickard, Lane and Stear > appear as middle names in some of Lois' children.  As I have extensive > records of the Bennee family and have traced them back to the mid > 1600's, I am as certain as can be that Lane and Rickard are not > connected with that family.  Neither do those names occur in the Stear > tree I have, so perhaps they are associated with the Richards?  I > tried to explore that avenue but made no progress. > > Any ideas? > > John > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/>    and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > <http://bit.ly/rootswebpref> > Unsubscribe > [email protected]">https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY > <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY>   Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 <https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog <http://rootsweb.blog> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

Hi, Rickard is a variation for Richards in Cornwall. There is a baptism at St Teath, Cornwall 8th June 1778 for Bridget Lane daughter of John and Bridget. Unfortunately, the names Richards and Rickard are very common in Devon and Cornwall so it will be difficult to identify John or Elizabeth without something else to use. The name Lois is quite unusual, have you found it in the Stear ancestry? Also Clifton, do you know where that came from? Joy ------ Original Message ------ From: "Our Mail" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 14 Nov, 2019 At 00:06 Subject: [DEV] Elizabeth Richards 1781 Elizabeth Richards married Richard Stear on 22 May 1798 in Stoke Damerel church, Devonport (Family Bible and parish record). She died on 17 Aug 1807 (Family Bible) and was buried at Stoke Damerel on 20 Aug 1897 (parish record). Richard and Elizabeth had 3 children:- John (2 Mar 1799 - Oct 1780), John Richards (31 Oct 1800 - ?) and my gg grandmother Lois Clifton (5 Oct 1805 - 26 Jan 1894), who married Edward Bennee in 1826. Thanks to greatly appreciated assistance of this list and that of the South Hams, and the discovery that one of the witnesses at the marriage was an aunt, I was able to trace the Stear family back a further 3 generations. However I must now confess to complete failure in tracing Elizabeth Richards antecedents. Does anyone know of this lady? I would add that on the page in the bible recording the marriage of Richard & Elizabeth is written, at the foot of the page, Bridget Rickard died Oct 20th 1832 aged 53 years, John Rickard died Dec 4th 1833 aged 63 years. Bridget was buried at Stoke Damerel but I haven't located John's. However they were married at Stoke Damerel in 1802. Bridget's maiden name was Lane. The names Rickard, Lane and Stear appear as middle names in some of Lois' children. As I have extensive records of the Bennee family and have traced them back to the mid 1600's, I am as certain as can be that Lane and Rickard are not connected with that family. Neither do those names occur in the Stear tree I have, so perhaps they are associated with the Richards? I tried to explore that avenue but made no progress. Any ideas? John _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/> and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref <http://bit.ly/rootswebpref> Unsubscribe [email protected]">https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY <https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY> Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 <https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog <http://rootsweb.blog> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

IF you can help please answer direct to Anne and NOT via the list. Data protection rules apply for living persons. Terry list Admin team On 15/11/2019 15:38, Anne Brooks wrote: > I am trying to locate Carolyn Hayes in the U.S. whom I think was on > the Devon list around 2004. I did have some communication with her at > that time but have since lost her. If anyone might know of her and how > I might contact her I would be most appreciative. She had a direct > link to Ambrose Norsworthy Hayes born 1837 in Chudleigh. Thank you. > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> Email address: [email protected] Join from just £12 a year

I am trying to locate Carolyn Hayes in the U.S. whom I think was on the Devon list around 2004. I did have some communication with her at that time but have since lost her. If anyone might know of her and how I might contact her I would be most appreciative. She had a direct link to Ambrose Norsworthy Hayes born 1837 in Chudleigh. Thank you. Anne

The story`s end is rather more prosaic than I would have wished …….my cousin is having a new cooker and kitchen installed in Melbourne and the excitement has got to her …….she says  I have located our Devon Link - He was my Paternal Grandmother’s (Emily Clara Stivey) Grand Father and was born 1830 in Stoke,Devon, England.He came to Australia in 1854 with his Wife Emily (Maiden Name of Pitcher) Sorry to have irritated the list but these things must be done ……...this Stivey was apparently also responsible for the gas lighting in Melbourne . .

Elizabeth Richards married Richard Stear on 22 May 1798 in Stoke Damerel church, Devonport  (Family Bible and parish record).   She died on 17 Aug 1807 (Family Bible) and was buried at Stoke Damerel on 20 Aug 1897 (parish record).  Richard and Elizabeth had 3 children:- John (2 Mar 1799 - Oct 1780), John Richards (31 Oct 1800 - ?) and my gg grandmother Lois Clifton (5 Oct 1805 - 26 Jan 1894), who married Edward Bennee in 1826. Thanks to greatly appreciated assistance of this list and that of the South Hams, and the discovery that one of the witnesses at the marriage was an aunt, I was able to trace the Stear family back a further 3 generations.  However I must now confess to complete failure in tracing Elizabeth Richards antecedents.  Does anyone know of this lady? I would add that on the page in the bible recording the marriage of Richard & Elizabeth is written, at the foot of the page, Bridget Rickard died Oct 20th 1832 aged 53 years, John Rickard died Dec 4th 1833 aged 63 years.  Bridget was buried at Stoke Damerel but I haven't located John's. However they were married at Stoke Damerel in 1802.  Bridget's maiden name was Lane.  The names Rickard, Lane and Stear appear as middle names in some of Lois' children.  As I have extensive records of the Bennee family and have traced them back to the mid 1600's, I am as certain as can be that Lane and Rickard are not connected with that family.  Neither do those names occur in the Stear tree I have, so perhaps they are associated with the Richards?  I tried to explore that avenue but made no progress. Any ideas? John

Thanks Terry. It's still Springtime here in Melbourne, but the Bushfire Season has started early. The fires aren't this far South yet- but that will happen as we go into Summer. Hope things are good with you, Mike. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 179 Hi all, I really think we're straying a little to far from the purpose of this mailing list. So please let's get back to topic _ DEVON family history. Terry List admin team On 13/11/2019 21:03, Our Mail wrote: > Stephen, I can only envy your refined taste buds, being able to > differentiate between Cornish & Devon clotted cream. I'm sorry to > disappoint you re grockle (alt spelling grokel) but apparently it > originated in the New Forest hundreds of years ago. Emmet stems from > the Old English. However both those words and the strange eating > habits of the Cornish (I speak as a Plymothian who went to the > Saturday 'hops' in Torquay in the late 50's) illustrate the > differences between the Devonians and 'oi de do its'. Perhaps you > remember the *hard* fought rugby games between the counties in the > good old days? > > To show my impartiality, I do like Rhodda's cream and Ivor Dewdney's > pasties. > > John in exile > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> Email address: [email protected] Join from just £12 a year _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi all, I really think we're straying a little to far from the purpose of this mailing list. So please let's get back to topic _ DEVON family history. Terry List admin team On 13/11/2019 21:03, Our Mail wrote: > Stephen, I can only envy your refined taste buds, being able to > differentiate between Cornish & Devon clotted cream.  I'm sorry to > disappoint you re grockle (alt spelling grokel) but apparently it > originated in the New Forest hundreds of years ago. Emmet stems from > the Old English.  However both those words and the strange eating > habits of the Cornish (I speak as a Plymothian who went to the > Saturday 'hops' in Torquay in the late 50's) illustrate the > differences between the Devonians and 'oi de do its'.  Perhaps you > remember the *hard* fought rugby games between the counties in the > good old days? > > To show my impartiality, I do like Rhodda's cream and Ivor Dewdney's > pasties. > > John in exile > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> Email address: [email protected] Join from just £12 a year

Stephen, I can only envy your refined taste buds, being able to differentiate between Cornish & Devon clotted cream.  I'm sorry to disappoint you re grockle (alt spelling grokel) but apparently it originated in the New Forest hundreds of years ago. Emmet stems from the Old English.  However both those words and the strange eating habits of the Cornish (I speak as a Plymothian who went to the Saturday 'hops' in Torquay in the late 50's) illustrate the differences between the Devonians and 'oi de do its'.  Perhaps you remember the *hard* fought rugby games between the counties in the good old days? To show my impartiality, I do like Rhodda's cream and Ivor Dewdney's pasties. John in exile > >

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 19:45, [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote Today's Topics: 5. Re: Devon and Cornwall (Jane Lucas) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 20:23:51 +1100 From: Our Mail <[email protected]> Subject: [DEV] Re: BRICK WALL - BREND/DAVEY - BARNSTAPLE To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Devon & Cornwall don't mix Jane.  There's great rivalry.  The Cornish don't even know the correct way to put clotted cream and jam on a scone!  They also call grockels, emmets.  I give up! John ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------A bit off topic. Leaving aside the cream/jam problem which has its roots in the textural difference between Devonshire & Cornish cream,  (!)  I would point out that 'emmet' means 'ant', & is of great antiquity in Kernow, though the Cornish word for ant is 'murrion'.The word 'grockle' (correct spelling) dates from the early 1950's. It first appeared in a novel set in Paignton dealing with local lads who hung around Paignton railway station to pick up, chat up or eye up, girls coming on holiday. These lads called tourists 'grockles'. It was a totally invented word by the novelist & never used by the boys themselves.I should know, being one of those  young men, although I am actually a Cornish boy.  ????????Stephen Treseder

Thanks to all for such a varied response. I think the Victorian cousin is muddling GW senr and G W junr I have all the Bennett/Evans stuff but not the one generation closer stuff I will go back to her and see if I can find out who her “Pops” is . this query was started by a “deeper” look at our DNA results and she has an odd extra bit of Devon which isn’t me !!! Thanks again Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Nov 2019, at 21:06, Paul Hockie via DEVON <[email protected]> wrote: > > Meg, > > An easy overview is to put the name into FamilySearch (I don't trust the payment sites as much) and then filter on birth year. For Spivey if filtered down to the 1600s. There were 147 matches with over 90% in West Yorkshire - Huddersfield, Barnsley area. The rest were scattered about. None in Devon but there was a James Spevey from Doulting in Somerset bapt 1685, father Richard. Not a scientific analysis but it gives you the broad picture. Marriages give a similar picture. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 12 November 2019 19:38 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: STIVEY > > I know the name Spivey but not where it originates from. A possibility do you think? > > Meg Galley-Taylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Treeby (Genealogy) <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 November 2019 17:30 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: STIVEY > > The only George Wilmott Bennett records I can find are these > > Birth Reg - Q4 1872 - Greenwich, London - MMN Evans Marr Reg - 1904 - Victoria, Australia to a Sarah Ellen Barker Birth Reg - 1904 - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - Parents George Wilmott and Sarah Barker Marr Reg - 1928 - Victoria Australia to a Marjorie Williams Death Reg - 1943 - Victoria Australia - Age 72 (born appx 1871) - Parents given as George Bennett and Eliza Evans Death Reg - 1985 - Victoria Auustralia - Age 80 (born appx 1905) - Parents given as George Wilmot and Ellen Sarah > > > Tim Treeby > DFHS : 13926 > > >> On 12/11/2019 16:39, ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON wrote: >> Hi to the list on a rotten cold wet dark winter day …...An Australian cousin has emailed to say her father`s mother was a Stivey I have never heard the name at all . George Willmott Bennett was my grandfather`s eldest brother b c 1872 . She says that he was born in Somerset . and that his mother`s maiden name was Stivey . However I think this GW had a son also GW and possibly b Australia .Anyone know anything about the Stivey family ? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Meg, An easy overview is to put the name into FamilySearch (I don't trust the payment sites as much) and then filter on birth year. For Spivey if filtered down to the 1600s. There were 147 matches with over 90% in West Yorkshire - Huddersfield, Barnsley area. The rest were scattered about. None in Devon but there was a James Spevey from Doulting in Somerset bapt 1685, father Richard. Not a scientific analysis but it gives you the broad picture. Marriages give a similar picture. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 12 November 2019 19:38 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: STIVEY I know the name Spivey but not where it originates from. A possibility do you think? Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Tim Treeby (Genealogy) <[email protected]> Sent: 12 November 2019 17:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: STIVEY The only George Wilmott Bennett records I can find are these Birth Reg - Q4 1872 - Greenwich, London - MMN Evans Marr Reg - 1904 - Victoria, Australia to a Sarah Ellen Barker Birth Reg - 1904 - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - Parents George Wilmott and Sarah Barker Marr Reg - 1928 - Victoria Australia to a Marjorie Williams Death Reg - 1943 - Victoria Australia - Age 72 (born appx 1871) - Parents given as George Bennett and Eliza Evans Death Reg - 1985 - Victoria Auustralia - Age 80 (born appx 1905) - Parents given as George Wilmot and Ellen Sarah Tim Treeby DFHS : 13926 On 12/11/2019 16:39, ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON wrote: > Hi to the list on a rotten cold wet dark winter day …...An Australian cousin has emailed to say her father`s mother was a Stivey I have never heard the name at all . George Willmott Bennett was my grandfather`s eldest brother b c 1872 . She says that he was born in Somerset . and that his mother`s maiden name was Stivey . However I think this GW had a son also GW and possibly b Australia .Anyone know anything about the Stivey family ? > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I know the name Spivey but not where it originates from. A possibility do you think? Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Tim Treeby (Genealogy) <[email protected]> Sent: 12 November 2019 17:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: STIVEY The only George Wilmott Bennett records I can find are these Birth Reg - Q4 1872 - Greenwich, London - MMN Evans Marr Reg - 1904 - Victoria, Australia to a Sarah Ellen Barker Birth Reg - 1904 - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - Parents George Wilmott and Sarah Barker Marr Reg - 1928 - Victoria Australia to a Marjorie Williams Death Reg - 1943 - Victoria Australia - Age 72 (born appx 1871) - Parents given as George Bennett and Eliza Evans Death Reg - 1985 - Victoria Auustralia - Age 80 (born appx 1905) - Parents given as George Wilmot and Ellen Sarah Tim Treeby DFHS : 13926 On 12/11/2019 16:39, ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON wrote: > Hi to the list on a rotten cold wet dark winter day …...An Australian cousin has emailed to say her father`s mother was a Stivey I have never heard the name at all . George Willmott Bennett was my grandfather`s eldest brother b c 1872 . She says that he was born in Somerset . and that his mother`s maiden name was Stivey . However I think this GW had a son also GW and possibly b Australia .Anyone know anything about the Stivey family ? > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

The only George Wilmott Bennett records I can find are these Birth  Reg  - Q4 1872 - Greenwich, London - MMN Evans Marr Reg - 1904 - Victoria, Australia to a Sarah Ellen Barker Birth Reg - 1904 - Melbourne, Victoria, Australia - Parents George Wilmott and Sarah Barker Marr Reg - 1928 - Victoria Australia to a Marjorie Williams Death Reg - 1943 - Victoria Australia - Age 72 (born appx 1871) - Parents given as George Bennett and Eliza Evans Death Reg - 1985 - Victoria Auustralia - Age 80 (born appx 1905) - Parents given as George Wilmot and Ellen Sarah Tim Treeby DFHS : 13926 On 12/11/2019 16:39, ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON wrote: > Hi to the list on a rotten cold wet dark winter day …...An Australian cousin has emailed to say her father`s mother was a Stivey       I have never heard the name at all . George Willmott Bennett was my grandfather`s eldest brother b c 1872 .    She says that he was born in Somerset .  and that his mother`s maiden name was Stivey .        However I think this GW had a son also GW and possibly b Australia  .Anyone know anything about the Stivey family ? > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

George Willmott BENNETT born 1872's mother was an EVANS and his birth was registered in Greenwich. There are STIVEYs about though - mainly in the Plymouth area and some in Cornwall per FREEBMD. Kind Regards, Deborah O’Brien Devon OPC Co-ordinator DFHS Member 11261 http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/OPCproject Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by Torrington, Sheepstor, Walkhampton http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES -----Original Message----- From: ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 12 November 2019 16:40 To: [email protected] Cc: ELIZABETH HOWARD Subject: [DEV] STIVEY Hi to the list on a rotten cold wet dark winter day …...An Australian cousin has emailed to say her father`s mother was a Stivey I have never heard the name at all . George Willmott Bennett was my grandfather`s eldest brother b c 1872 . She says that he was born in Somerset . and that his mother`s maiden name was Stivey . However I think this GW had a son also GW and possibly b Australia .Anyone know anything about the Stivey family ? _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi to the list on a rotten cold wet dark winter day …...An Australian cousin has emailed to say her father`s mother was a Stivey       I have never heard the name at all . George Willmott Bennett was my grandfather`s eldest brother b c 1872 .    She says that he was born in Somerset .  and that his mother`s maiden name was Stivey .        However I think this GW had a son also GW and possibly b Australia  .Anyone know anything about the Stivey family ?

Hi Listers I have been trying to get in contact with the family of Walter Parnell – a war hero whose family is linked to mine. Walter’s military service is detailed at http://launcestonthen.co.uk/index.php/the-parishes/boyton/ He was born at Tallastone, Boyton in 1885 and was killed in battle in Belgium in 1917. Walter hailed from Boyton, Cornwall and moved to the Torquay area. I believe some part of the family also moved to Plymouth. Does anyone have any detail that would help me ? David Dawe

Thanks for the informative reply. Caren -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 11:46 AM To: [email protected] Cc: 'Jean Williams'; Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia This is what the NHS have to say. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/thalassaemia/ - A child can only be born with thalassaemia if they inherit these faulty genes from both parents. - It mainly affects people of Mediterranean, south Asian, southeast Asian and Middle Eastern origin. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Caren Wilcox [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 November 2019 16:31 To: [email protected] Cc: 'Jean Williams' Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia Does anyone know if this is also prominent in Greek descendants? The name of the condition sounds more Greek than Italian. I have great niece and great nephew with Greek grandmother and Italian grandfather. I don't want to raise alarms unless I should. Caren -----Original Message----- From: Jean Williams via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 6:36 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Jean Williams Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia Sorry I made an error on my post - it should read "only if he has a partner who is also a carrier" Jean -----Original Message----- From: Jean Williams via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 November 2019 22:51 To: [email protected] Cc: Jean Williams Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia Just to let you know Thalassaemia Minor just means he carries a gene for this type of anaemia. It is only a problem if he has a child who is also a carrier. If the child inherits the gene from both parents they might inherit Thalassaemia Major which is a serious blood disorder which require lifelong treatment. Jean -----Original Message----- From: Liz Youle via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 November 2019 20:26 To: [email protected] Cc: Liz Youle Subject: [DEV] Thalassemia Talking about Italians who ended up in Devon.? You would just not believe this. My school friends and their husbands came for lunch today.? Needless to say, I've known them for years and one of the husbands I've researched his family history.? His Devonian grandmother married an Italian from Palermo.? I never knew until today that he has Thalassemia Minor and it has been passed on down to most of his grandsons.? So, if you have Italian blood you really should be checked. Liz _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Diana, I forgot to say the Peter who witnessed the marriage is possible a brother rather than the father. It may be worth searching the 1851 census for possible and then on from there. It may lead to the father. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Diana Trenchard via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 11 November 2019 16:43 To: [email protected] Cc: Diana Trenchard Subject: [DEV] Re: Peter WHITE bp 1796 Modbury Thank you Adrian, Joan and Paul. Together you appear to have eliminated Peter WHITE of Modbury as my ancestor, and confirmed a possible Isabella as my 2g grandmother. I shall be replying to Adrian off-List as Arny life in India is far from being a topic for the Devon List. However, I can assure him that a Conductor was a position in the British Army and had been for centuries. Its modern equivalent is in the RAOC. Joan and Paul. I had the 1851 married servant Isabelal WHITE in my 'Possible but unproven ' file, as I had made an elementary genealogical mistake. In the 185I census I had found this result in tthe transcriprions on FMP, This had a line through 'Place of Birth' for both Isabella and a neighbouring servant. I assumed that in the absence of a '?' or 'nk' this meant that their places of birth were unknown. I didn't bother to look at the original record - naughty, naughty, Now that I have, I can clearly see that it states 'Scotland near Aberdeen' I already had a possibility for an Isabella in Ross amd Cromarty, with a father Daniel - as in Isabella's marriage certificate - which I will now follow up. Now that I appear to have severed any Devon connection in this branch of my family, I wil transfer any further info off-List. Thanks for help received. Diana _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Greek name doesn't imply anything about origin or prevalence. Physicians gave Greek & Latin names to diseases when they "discovered" them e.g. Haemophilia -(Latin roots) - prevalent in the Russian royal family. Chris ------ Original Message ------ From: "Paul Hockie via DEVON" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "'Jean Williams'" <[email protected]>; "Paul Hockie" <[email protected]> Sent: 11/11/2019 16:46:20 Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia >This is what the NHS have to say. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/thalassaemia/ > >- A child can only be born with thalassaemia if they inherit these faulty genes from both parents. >- It mainly affects people of Mediterranean, south Asian, southeast Asian and Middle Eastern origin. > >Cheers > >Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: Caren Wilcox [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 11 November 2019 16:31 >To: [email protected] >Cc: 'Jean Williams' >Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia > >Does anyone know if this is also prominent in Greek descendants? The name >of the condition sounds more Greek than Italian. I have great niece and >great nephew with Greek grandmother and Italian grandfather. I don't want >to raise alarms unless I should. > >Caren > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jean Williams via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 6:36 AM >To: [email protected] >Cc: Jean Williams >Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia > >Sorry I made an error on my post - it should read "only if he has a partner >who is also a carrier" > >Jean > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jean Williams via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 10 November 2019 22:51 >To: [email protected] >Cc: Jean Williams >Subject: [DEV] Re: Thalassemia > >Just to let you know Thalassaemia Minor just means he carries a gene for >this type of anaemia. It is only a problem if he has a child who is also a >carrier. If the child inherits the gene from both parents they might >inherit Thalassaemia Major which is a serious blood disorder which require >lifelong treatment. > >Jean > >-----Original Message----- >From: Liz Youle via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 10 November 2019 20:26 >To: [email protected] >Cc: Liz Youle >Subject: [DEV] Thalassemia > >Talking about Italians who ended up in Devon.? You would just not >believe this. My school friends and their husbands came for lunch >today.? Needless to say, I've known them for years and one of the >husbands I've researched his family history.? His Devonian grandmother >married an Italian from Palermo.? I never knew until today that he has >Thalassemia Minor and it has been passed on down to most of his >grandsons.? So, if you have Italian blood you really should be checked. > >Liz > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community