Thanks Jane, I can enquire to see if they have my branch. From Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lucas via DEVON Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:08 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Jane Lucas Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Jenny.. The Society of Genealogists have pedigrees of a number of surnames. Seymour is on the list, though obviously I can’t tell if it is ‘your’ Seymours. They may well be able to help you. It might be worth emailing them. There is a copying service. http://www.sog.org.uk/search-records/pedigrees/letter/s > On 3 Dec 2019, at 11:49, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin >> in 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > -- > > Chairman - Devon Family History Society > > Registered Charity No. 282490 > > Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 > <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> > > Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> > > Email address: [email protected] > > Join from just £12 a year > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I will certainly have a look Caren, As you say, I might get lucky! It is such a shame so much has been lost though. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: Caren Wilcox Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 8:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Be sure to look in the Devon Genuki. While many wills were destroyed, some had been sent for whatever reason to other Archives. I was very lucky to find the Wills of my 3xgrandfather and 4xgrandfather, and was able to order them and read them. I think I paid about 10 pounds each and they were copied and sent to me by email. So exhaust all your resources. My ancestors were tradesmen and one was an Excisor, but not "Sir" anything. You might find them. Caren Wilcox In Washington DC -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 4:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Hi Terry, Thank you -I hadn't realised that most Devon wills were lost in the bombing. Very sad, but does explain why there are no references to their contents. As far as I can find none of the wills are on Ancestry, but I will check again. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills No, is the quick answer. Most Devon wills pre 1858 were lost in WW2. This index has been compiled to show what is available. Your 2 wills don't exist any more. A copy of the 1709 will should on Ancestry under the PCC Wills category. The 1753 one you'll need to scroll down to the source on the search result page of FMP With this index IT IS VITAL to scroll down to read the information on how it was set up and where the information comes from Terry On 03/12/2019 11:49, Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in >> 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Thanks Peter, I will see if they can advise me if there is anything interesting. From Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Peter Harris Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 8:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Jenny, there may be some information on the 1593 will (Administration) of Edward Seymour as the reference against the FMP listing of it refers to the following comment: " Our set of JHA items has been created from the listings of Devon-related Prerogative Court of Canterbury Administrations, prepared by Jean Harris for GENUKI/Devon. Copies of most if not all of the volumes listed above should in fact be available in the reference section of any large library of a major city. However, if you wish to obtain a copy of the original administration, please contact The National Archives. It would almost certainly reduce the time the staff there have to spend locating a specific admon if you quoted both the PROB 6/xx reference, and the folio number shown in the GENUKI/Devon Adminstration pages mentioned above. The PROB 6/xx reference can be found from the TNA catalogue PROB 6 listing." Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 21:17 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Hi Terry, Thank you -I hadn't realised that most Devon wills were lost in the bombing. Very sad, but does explain why there are no references to their contents. As far as I can find none of the wills are on Ancestry, but I will check again. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills No, is the quick answer. Most Devon wills pre 1858 were lost in WW2. This index has been compiled to show what is available. Your 2 wills don't exist any more. A copy of the 1709 will should on Ancestry under the PCC Wills category. The 1753 one you'll need to scroll down to the source on the search result page of FMP With this index IT IS VITAL to scroll down to read the information on how it was set up and where the information comes from Terry On 03/12/2019 11:49, Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in >> 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Hi Paul, I will look into those documents. Unfortunately as you say they can be costly to have copies made and may not turn out to be all that interesting! I have had some experience with 16th century documents and can generally read them provided they are in English. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:22 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Jenny, Unfortunately, most documents held in archives and elsewhere are only catalogued and not indexed. The standard of cataloguing varies but most are just a brief description of the contents and very few have been imaged. For wills, most those that remain for Devon are those proven at Canterbury and held in the National Archive. These have been imaged and can be downloaded for a reasonable fee. Look at the Genuki Devon wills index for a comprehensive list of Devon Wills, mostly compiled from indexes made before the fire destroyed most of them. All I can suggest is you search the National Archives Discovery catalogue and the local archives against a set of keywords. They all seem to offer a digitising service but the prices may vary. Beware of spelling e.g. Probate lawsuit Seymour v Seymour and others, concerning the deceased Sir Edward Seymour bart of... Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Allegations. Described at item level. Probate lawsuit Seymour v Seymour and others, concerning the deceased Sir Edward Seymour bart of Bury Powenry, Devonshire but late of Maiden Bradley, Wiltshire. Allegation and 2 interrogatories. Held by: The National Archives, Kew - Prerogative Court of Canterbury Date: 1708 Reference: PROB 18/30/1 Subjects: Wills and probate This is not imaged but you can request a copy which will be priced on a per page basis. A search for "Berry Pomeroy" and Seymour 1500-1599 gives 75 hits 68 of which are in local archives. Also search google. Archive.org and jstor amongst several organisation that have downloadable records. Researching the 16c and earlier is a fairly specialised subject and I would advise reading up on the subject. This will help avoid costly mistakes. Start with https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/medieval-early-modern-family-history/ and check out the book list, Section 8. I think Devon FHS have an arrangement with Pharos who offer distance learning courses. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 03:52 To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: Re: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Hi Paul, The Seymours were resident at Berry Pomeroy Castle, Devon & the Farewells at the Manor of Hills Bishop, Somerset. I will check the catalogues for the relevant archives, but from Australia I can't check anything easily unless it is described accurately enough to be sure it is what I am after! I was hoping a family as well known as the Seymours would have been well documents already. There is of course a lot written about them, but it is short on dates and places, especially for the women. Thank you for your reply & suggestions. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 6:02 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Jenny, In theory there would have been a marriage contract for what would have been an arranged marriage. Amongst other things, this would agree the dowry of the bride. If it still exists, then it is most likely to be in the records office. It may be worth looking at the history of the residences of both families. Did they have a chapel or a muniments room. Probably not built looking at the history of the buildings may yield some clues, in particular what family papers may have existed. If they still exist they are probably not indexed and just catalogued as "records of". Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 December 2019 11:51 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Thanks Paul, As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... From Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 4:11 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Jenny According to my Philimore the registers for Berry Pomeroy only start in 1602 although Boyd's Marriage index has entries from 1596. Prior to this you have, if they still exist, estate and family papers, wills and heralds visitations. Estate and family papers usually end up in the local archives but some may be in TNA. If the estate had its own chapel, those papers could be in the archives. I just google Heralds visitations on name and place. This will throw up sites like archive.org who seem to have scanned large numbers of 16/17c documents. Unfortunately many of these documents follow the male line but if the daughter someone of equal standing that could appear in her husband's line. Musters, taxes etc. probably don't help as they are name and place only, no lineage. Finally the Society of Genealogists and FamilySearch have books and documents related to assorted Seymour families. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 December 2019 04:52 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Hi List, I am wondering if anybody can help me work out where I might find records for the Seymour & Farewell family? My 11th Great Grandmother is Mary Seymour [died 13 Dec 1660], daughter of Sir Edward Seymour & his wife Elizabeth Champernowne [who married 19th September 1576 at Dartington, Devon when Edward was only 13. . There is a memorial at Berry Pomeroy, Devon which gives the date of death for Sir Edward Seymour [10th April 1613] & records Elizabeth [dau of Arthur Champernowne] as his wife & the information that they had 11 children, but the MI doesn't mention her date of death. "Geni" gives her date of death as 6th September 1613, but I am not sure what the source of this information is. One of those 11 children was Mary Seymour who was married to Sir George Farewell [1579-14 May 1647] by July 1609 [George's father, another George Farewell mentions his son George & his wife in his will of that date & refers to the Seymours]. However, I can't find any indication of Mary's age, baptism or the actual marriage. I am hoping that they might be found somewhere in Devon records? Sir George & Mary's MI at Hills Bishop, Somerset confirms her Seymour parentage [as does her will which mentions her sisters Cary & Bruen]. It also mentions 20 children; Six are baptised at Bishops Hull, five between 1613 & 1620 & one in 1627 John, Thomas, Edward, Margaret [my line], Marie & Arthur], a further 4 from George & Mary's will & one more name from online pedigrees [so may not be correct] for a total of 12, so eight are missing and at least six are missing baptisms [Elizabeth,Jane, Dorothy, Nathaniel, George & James]. Mary refers to her daughters by surname only in her will [Norris, Farewell & Bruen] so they might be in addition to those in the list, but unfortunately I can't find their marriages either, so I can't work out which daughters married men with those surnames. Possibly some of their children were baptised in Devon before 1612? I also wondered in Edward Seymour [died 1613] might have left a will? That might shed some light on Grandchildren if I was very lucky! Thank you for your time, Jenny Stiles, Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Many old Somerset wills housed in the Devon Record Office were also destroyed in that WW2 Exeter bombing. In particular, those villages just over the Devon border. I was told this some 10 years ago by the Somerset Record Office when I was searching for my Brushford ancestor's 1799 Will. And yes, I'm speaking of Brushford Somerset which is a small village near Dulverton. cheers, pamela -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 5:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Hi Terry, Thank you -I hadn't realised that most Devon wills were lost in the bombing. (SNIP)
Be sure to look in the Devon Genuki. While many wills were destroyed, some had been sent for whatever reason to other Archives. I was very lucky to find the Wills of my 3xgrandfather and 4xgrandfather, and was able to order them and read them. I think I paid about 10 pounds each and they were copied and sent to me by email. So exhaust all your resources. My ancestors were tradesmen and one was an Excisor, but not "Sir" anything. You might find them. Caren Wilcox In Washington DC -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 4:17 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Hi Terry, Thank you -I hadn't realised that most Devon wills were lost in the bombing. Very sad, but does explain why there are no references to their contents. As far as I can find none of the wills are on Ancestry, but I will check again. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills No, is the quick answer. Most Devon wills pre 1858 were lost in WW2. This index has been compiled to show what is available. Your 2 wills don't exist any more. A copy of the 1709 will should on Ancestry under the PCC Wills category. The 1753 one you'll need to scroll down to the source on the search result page of FMP With this index IT IS VITAL to scroll down to read the information on how it was set up and where the information comes from Terry On 03/12/2019 11:49, Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in >> 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Jenny, there may be some information on the 1593 will (Administration) of Edward Seymour as the reference against the FMP listing of it refers to the following comment: " Our set of JHA items has been created from the listings of Devon-related Prerogative Court of Canterbury Administrations, prepared by Jean Harris for GENUKI/Devon. Copies of most if not all of the volumes listed above should in fact be available in the reference section of any large library of a major city. However, if you wish to obtain a copy of the original administration, please contact The National Archives. It would almost certainly reduce the time the staff there have to spend locating a specific admon if you quoted both the PROB 6/xx reference, and the folio number shown in the GENUKI/Devon Adminstration pages mentioned above. The PROB 6/xx reference can be found from the TNA catalogue PROB 6 listing." Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 21:17 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Hi Terry, Thank you -I hadn't realised that most Devon wills were lost in the bombing. Very sad, but does explain why there are no references to their contents. As far as I can find none of the wills are on Ancestry, but I will check again. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills No, is the quick answer. Most Devon wills pre 1858 were lost in WW2. This index has been compiled to show what is available. Your 2 wills don't exist any more. A copy of the 1709 will should on Ancestry under the PCC Wills category. The 1753 one you'll need to scroll down to the source on the search result page of FMP With this index IT IS VITAL to scroll down to read the information on how it was set up and where the information comes from Terry On 03/12/2019 11:49, Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in >> 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
That would be fabulous, thank you very much Paul! From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:33 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Jenny, There are also 43 books (including one on William and Kate) plus assorted birth briefs. I am the duty helpdesk this evening so I will try and have a look. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lucas via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 17:08 To: [email protected] Cc: Jane Lucas Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Jenny.. The Society of Genealogists have pedigrees of a number of surnames. Seymour is on the list, though obviously I can’t tell if it is ‘your’ Seymours. They may well be able to help you. It might be worth emailing them. There is a copying service. http://www.sog.org.uk/search-records/pedigrees/letter/s > On 3 Dec 2019, at 11:49, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin >> in 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > -- > > Chairman - Devon Family History Society > > Registered Charity No. 282490 > > Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 > <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> > > Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> > > Email address: [email protected] > > Join from just £12 a year > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Thanks Chris, As an Australian, I was not aware of that sad event. From Jenny Stiles From: Chris Whitehead Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 3:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Pre WW2, Devon record office was at Rougemont Castle in Exeter, which was bombed, and many wills destroyed. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mike Gould" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 03/12/2019 14:15:37 Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills >Hi Jenny, > >FmP appear to just have the index entry, which is: > >Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 >First name(s) Edward (Sir) >Last name Seymour >Sex Male >Occupation Lord >Probate year 1593 >Place Berry Pomeroy >Original place Berry Pomeroy >County Devon >Country England >Court Prerogative Court of Canterbury >Source (see list) JHA >Document type Administration >Document form Abstract or Extract >Document references PCC Admons. Vol. 3 f. 57 >Record set Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 >Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records >Subcategory Wills & Probate >Collections from Great Britain, England > > >Best wishes > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> >Sent: 03 December 2019 11:50 >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills > >Hi Terry, >I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and >Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. Does >FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for a >subscription! > >From Jenny Stiles > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Hi Terry, Thank you -I hadn't realised that most Devon wills were lost in the bombing. Very sad, but does explain why there are no references to their contents. As far as I can find none of the wills are on Ancestry, but I will check again. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills No, is the quick answer. Most Devon wills pre 1858 were lost in WW2. This index has been compiled to show what is available. Your 2 wills don't exist any more. A copy of the 1709 will should on Ancestry under the PCC Wills category. The 1753 one you'll need to scroll down to the source on the search result page of FMP With this index IT IS VITAL to scroll down to read the information on how it was set up and where the information comes from Terry On 03/12/2019 11:49, Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and > Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. > Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for > a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in >> 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any >> way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in >> Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the >> “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find >> online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the >> early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a >> very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives >> themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names >> into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index >> in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be >> able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >>> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >>> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >>> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >>> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at >>> 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>>
No, is the quick answer. Most Devon wills pre 1858 were lost in WW2. This index has been compiled to show what is available. Your 2 wills don't exist any more. A copy of the 1709 will should on Ancestry under the PCC Wills category. The 1753 one you'll need to scroll down to the source on the search result page of FMP With this index IT IS VITAL to scroll down to read the information on how it was set up and where the information comes from Terry On 03/12/2019 11:49, Jenny Stiles wrote: > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 > and Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 > too. Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask > "Santa" for a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be > forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular > Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only >> begin in 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there >> any way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor >> in Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come >> across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for >> various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to >> the “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I >> know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to >> find online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases >> from the early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until >> someone gave me a very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go >> into the Archives themselves because I couldn’t find anything even >> when putting the names into the search box. That reference led to >> dozens more. So the card index in the archives (it’s not online) is >> perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms >> themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may >> be able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or >> marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those >>> marriages are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary >>> Seymour & all her sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of >>> them! There is plenty of evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will >>> etc.], but no baptisms for the girls & no marriage dates. Their >>> father Edward Seymour was betrothed at 3 and married at 13, so even >>> estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> Email address: [email protected] Join from just £12 a year
Jenny, There are also 43 books (including one on William and Kate) plus assorted birth briefs. I am the duty helpdesk this evening so I will try and have a look. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lucas via DEVON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 17:08 To: [email protected] Cc: Jane Lucas Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Jenny.. The Society of Genealogists have pedigrees of a number of surnames. Seymour is on the list, though obviously I can’t tell if it is ‘your’ Seymours. They may well be able to help you. It might be worth emailing them. There is a copying service. http://www.sog.org.uk/search-records/pedigrees/letter/s > On 3 Dec 2019, at 11:49, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > -- > > Chairman - Devon Family History Society > > Registered Charity No. 282490 > > Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> > > Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> > > Email address: [email protected] > > Join from just £12 a year > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Jenny, Unfortunately, most documents held in archives and elsewhere are only catalogued and not indexed. The standard of cataloguing varies but most are just a brief description of the contents and very few have been imaged. For wills, most those that remain for Devon are those proven at Canterbury and held in the National Archive. These have been imaged and can be downloaded for a reasonable fee. Look at the Genuki Devon wills index for a comprehensive list of Devon Wills, mostly compiled from indexes made before the fire destroyed most of them. All I can suggest is you search the National Archives Discovery catalogue and the local archives against a set of keywords. They all seem to offer a digitising service but the prices may vary. Beware of spelling e.g. Probate lawsuit Seymour v Seymour and others, concerning the deceased Sir Edward Seymour bart of... Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Allegations. Described at item level. Probate lawsuit Seymour v Seymour and others, concerning the deceased Sir Edward Seymour bart of Bury Powenry, Devonshire but late of Maiden Bradley, Wiltshire. Allegation and 2 interrogatories. Held by: The National Archives, Kew - Prerogative Court of Canterbury Date: 1708 Reference: PROB 18/30/1 Subjects: Wills and probate This is not imaged but you can request a copy which will be priced on a per page basis. A search for "Berry Pomeroy" and Seymour 1500-1599 gives 75 hits 68 of which are in local archives. Also search google. Archive.org and jstor amongst several organisation that have downloadable records. Researching the 16c and earlier is a fairly specialised subject and I would advise reading up on the subject. This will help avoid costly mistakes. Start with https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/medieval-early-modern-family-history/ and check out the book list, Section 8. I think Devon FHS have an arrangement with Pharos who offer distance learning courses. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 03:52 To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: Re: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Hi Paul, The Seymours were resident at Berry Pomeroy Castle, Devon & the Farewells at the Manor of Hills Bishop, Somerset. I will check the catalogues for the relevant archives, but from Australia I can't check anything easily unless it is described accurately enough to be sure it is what I am after! I was hoping a family as well known as the Seymours would have been well documents already. There is of course a lot written about them, but it is short on dates and places, especially for the women. Thank you for your reply & suggestions. From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 6:02 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Jenny, In theory there would have been a marriage contract for what would have been an arranged marriage. Amongst other things, this would agree the dowry of the bride. If it still exists, then it is most likely to be in the records office. It may be worth looking at the history of the residences of both families. Did they have a chapel or a muniments room. Probably not built looking at the history of the buildings may yield some clues, in particular what family papers may have existed. If they still exist they are probably not indexed and just catalogued as "records of". Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 December 2019 11:51 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Thanks Paul, As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... From Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via DEVON Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 4:11 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Paul Hockie Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Jenny According to my Philimore the registers for Berry Pomeroy only start in 1602 although Boyd's Marriage index has entries from 1596. Prior to this you have, if they still exist, estate and family papers, wills and heralds visitations. Estate and family papers usually end up in the local archives but some may be in TNA. If the estate had its own chapel, those papers could be in the archives. I just google Heralds visitations on name and place. This will throw up sites like archive.org who seem to have scanned large numbers of 16/17c documents. Unfortunately many of these documents follow the male line but if the daughter someone of equal standing that could appear in her husband's line. Musters, taxes etc. probably don't help as they are name and place only, no lineage. Finally the Society of Genealogists and FamilySearch have books and documents related to assorted Seymour families. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 December 2019 04:52 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Hi List, I am wondering if anybody can help me work out where I might find records for the Seymour & Farewell family? My 11th Great Grandmother is Mary Seymour [died 13 Dec 1660], daughter of Sir Edward Seymour & his wife Elizabeth Champernowne [who married 19th September 1576 at Dartington, Devon when Edward was only 13. . There is a memorial at Berry Pomeroy, Devon which gives the date of death for Sir Edward Seymour [10th April 1613] & records Elizabeth [dau of Arthur Champernowne] as his wife & the information that they had 11 children, but the MI doesn't mention her date of death. "Geni" gives her date of death as 6th September 1613, but I am not sure what the source of this information is. One of those 11 children was Mary Seymour who was married to Sir George Farewell [1579-14 May 1647] by July 1609 [George's father, another George Farewell mentions his son George & his wife in his will of that date & refers to the Seymours]. However, I can't find any indication of Mary's age, baptism or the actual marriage. I am hoping that they might be found somewhere in Devon records? Sir George & Mary's MI at Hills Bishop, Somerset confirms her Seymour parentage [as does her will which mentions her sisters Cary & Bruen]. It also mentions 20 children; Six are baptised at Bishops Hull, five between 1613 & 1620 & one in 1627 John, Thomas, Edward, Margaret [my line], Marie & Arthur], a further 4 from George & Mary's will & one more name from online pedigrees [so may not be correct] for a total of 12, so eight are missing and at least six are missing baptisms [Elizabeth,Jane, Dorothy, Nathaniel, George & James]. Mary refers to her daughters by surname only in her will [Norris, Farewell & Bruen] so they might be in addition to those in the list, but unfortunately I can't find their marriages either, so I can't work out which daughters married men with those surnames. Possibly some of their children were baptised in Devon before 1612? I also wondered in Edward Seymour [died 1613] might have left a will? That might shed some light on Grandchildren if I was very lucky! Thank you for your time, Jenny Stiles, Sydney, Australia _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Jenny.. The Society of Genealogists have pedigrees of a number of surnames. Seymour is on the list, though obviously I can’t tell if it is ‘your’ Seymours. They may well be able to help you. It might be worth emailing them. There is a copying service. http://www.sog.org.uk/search-records/pedigrees/letter/s > On 3 Dec 2019, at 11:49, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Terry, > I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for a subscription! > > From Jenny Stiles > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Hi Folks; > > When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular Savernake. > > Happy Hunting > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy > > Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? > > Terry > > On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: >> I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). >> >> I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any way you can narrow down possible places of baptism? >> >> The following are all Berry Pomeroy. >> >> Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in Boyd’s). >> >> Baptisms: >> 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore >> 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour >> 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour >> 1612 Henry Seymour >> 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour >> 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour >> 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour >> >> The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come across ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? >> >> South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. >> >> Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. >> >> Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I know that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find online. I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the early 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a very old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives themselves because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names into the search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index in the archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? >> >> It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or marriage settlements. >> >> Jane >> Devon >> >> >> >> >>> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at 3 and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > -- > > Chairman - Devon Family History Society > > Registered Charity No. 282490 > > Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> > > Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> > > Email address: [email protected] > > Join from just £12 a year > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Pre WW2, Devon record office was at Rougemont Castle in Exeter, which was bombed, and many wills destroyed. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mike Gould" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 03/12/2019 14:15:37 Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills >Hi Jenny, > >FmP appear to just have the index entry, which is: > >Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 >First name(s) Edward (Sir) >Last name Seymour >Sex Male >Occupation Lord >Probate year 1593 >Place Berry Pomeroy >Original place Berry Pomeroy >County Devon >Country England >Court Prerogative Court of Canterbury >Source (see list) JHA >Document type Administration >Document form Abstract or Extract >Document references PCC Admons. Vol. 3 f. 57 >Record set Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 >Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records >Subcategory Wills & Probate >Collections from Great Britain, England > > >Best wishes > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> >Sent: 03 December 2019 11:50 >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills > >Hi Terry, >I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for a subscription! > >From Jenny Stiles > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
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I haven’t seen this for a long time. From memory it is something to do with font settings. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Gully [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 December 2019 03:32 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] LANE/REED What is wrong with this message and several others from [email protected] Sent from my iPad > On 3 Dec 2019, at 3:10 am, Nancy Frey <[email protected]> wrote: > > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Jenny, FmP appear to just have the index entry, which is: Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 First name(s) Edward (Sir) Last name Seymour Sex Male Occupation Lord Probate year 1593 Place Berry Pomeroy Original place Berry Pomeroy County Devon Country England Court Prerogative Court of Canterbury Source (see list) JHA Document type Administration Document form Abstract or Extract Document references PCC Admons. Vol. 3 f. 57 Record set Devon Wills Index, 1163-1999 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Wills & Probate Collections from Great Britain, England Best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> Sent: 03 December 2019 11:50 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy wills Hi Terry, I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for a subscription! From Jenny Stiles
Hi Terry, I just checked on FMP index & they list wills for Edward Seymour 1593 and Edward Seymour 1613-both mine. They have Arthur Champernowne 1578 too. Does FMP have the actual will? If they do, I might have to ask "Santa" for a subscription! From Jenny Stiles -----Original Message----- From: Len Heyward Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 10:07 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Hi Folks; When looking at the SEYMOUR family of Berry Pomeroy it should not be forgotten they descend out of the SEYMOURs of Wiltshire, in particular Savernake. Happy Hunting Len Heyward -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: 3 December, 2019 3:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Re: [EXTERNAL] Seymour family of Berry Pomeroy Have you looked at the Devon Wills Index, on FMP & Genuki? Terry On 02/12/2019 15:09, Jane Lucas via DEVON wrote: > I had a look at Berry Pomeroy Registers. As Paul says, they only begin in > 1602 (digitised on on Find My Past). > > I picked up the following which may or may not be useful: Is there any way > you can narrow down possible places of baptism? > > The following are all Berry Pomeroy. > > Marriage: Elizabeth Seymor and George Cary 18 Dec 1609 (spelt Seimor in > Boyd’s). > > Baptisms: > 1606 Mrs Katherine Seamore > 1609 Mrs Ann Seymour > 1610 Edward son of Edward Seymour > 1612 Henry Seymour > 1618 Mrs Margaret Seymour > 1619 Mrs Mary Seymour > 1620 Mrs Amey Seymour > > The only baptism with father’s name given is Edward. I haven’t come across > ‘Mrs’ in baptism record before. Mark of respect? > > South West Heritage Trust online Catalogue has hundred of results for > various Seymour related documents, but no Will mentioned. > > Interestingly there is a document dated 14th Oct 1598 referring to the > “continuing feud between Seymour and Champernowne”. > > Although the online catalogue returned a large number of documents, I know > that they hold a vast number of others that are difficult to find online. > I’ve recently found children named in three live leases from the early > 1600s. I didn’t know the documents existed until someone gave me a very > old Devon archive reference. But I had to go into the Archives themselves > because I couldn’t find anything even when putting the names into the > search box. That reference led to dozens more. So the card index in the > archives (it’s not online) is perhaps a good place to check? > > It might be worth asking a researcher to look for you? The baptisms > themselves that you’re looking for are probably missing but you may be > able to find reference to the children in estate documents and/or marriage > settlements. > > Jane > Devon > > > > >> On 2 Dec 2019, at 11:51, Jenny Stiles <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Paul, >> As you suggest, the male line is fairly easy to follow & those marriages >> are documented, but despite knowing the names of Mary Seymour & all her >> sisters spouses, I cannot find dates for any of them! There is plenty of >> evidence [Memorial Inscriptions, will etc.], but no baptisms for the >> girls & no marriage dates. Their father Edward Seymour was betrothed at 3 >> and married at 13, so even estimating likely dates can be right out... >> >> > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Mayflower International Genealogical Conference 2020 <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/mayflower_conference.pdf> Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> Email address: [email protected] Join from just £12 a year _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com