Hi and many thanks........whilst its not impossible I am going try to replace Lorne with a more obvious candidate , its just finding the time to do a detailed search .....but thanks for clearing this up . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Poulton via" <devon@rootsweb.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com>; <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] LORNE ARTHUR HUGHES > > Hello > If it is of any use, Ancestry has Robert & Bessie indexed in 1911 > in the Canadian census under "Hugha" > Another site, Automatedgenealogy.com has the family correctly > indexed. They can be found at > http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SurnameSearch.jsp?surname=Hughes&districtId=42 > 1911 Census of Canada > <http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html>Home / > <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test4.jsp>1911 / > <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test6.jsp?province=Nova%20Scotia>Nova > Scotia / > <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test3.jsp?did=42>Cumberland / > <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/EnumerationDistrict.jsp?id=325>25 > Port Greville poll district no. 34 / page 5 > 37 49 Hughes Robert M Head M Jul 1867 44 > 38 49 Hughes Bessie F Wife M Mar 1874 37 > 39 49 Hughes Phyllis F Daughter S Jan 1893 18 > 40 49 Hughes Thompson M Son S Jul 1895 16 > 41 49 Hughes Lorne M Son S Mar 1897 14 > 42 49 Hughes Price M Son S Mar 1899 12 > 43 49 Hughes Graham M Son S Sep 1900 10 > 44 49 Hughes Walter M Son S Mar 1903 8 > 45 49 Hughes ? M Son S Jun 1905 5 > 46 49 Hughes Horace M Son S Jun 1909 1 > 47 50 Hughes Fred M Head M Oct 1873 37 > 48 50 Hughes Ida F Wife M May 1876 35 > 49 50 Hughes Alvin M Son S May 1901 10 > 50 50 Hughes Arthur M Son S Dec 1902 8 > > A quick check of the 1881 census shows a Robert Hugh (this is how it > is indexed), age 16, born in NS, livng with his parents and siblings > in Parsboro, Cumberland, NS. > Name: Robert Hugh > Gender: Male > Age: 16 > Birth Year: 1865 > Birthplace: Nova Scotia > Religion: Wesleyan Methodist > There is a birth registration for Robert Wesley Hughes, Diligent > River, Cumberland > https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/ItemView.aspx?ImageFile=1805-5&Event=birth&ID=20670 > which agrees with the above census (i.e. parents' names are > correct). This census shows both parents born in Nova Scotia, so the > Devon link is becoming more elusive. > > Good luck with it > > Gerry Poulton > Devon FHS member and OPC for Combeinteignhead > > > > > > > > > At 09:57 AM 2014-09-18, Martin Beavis via wrote: >>Hi Elizabeth - Can't help you with any Devon connection but I did >>read recently that English war memorials often included the names of >>casualties whose last known residence, even if rather transient, was >>in that parish. The image of his enlistment papers are at >>http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=475745 >>He was an unmarried draughtsman living at home in Canada when he >>enlisted. And we have his photo! >>http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/562411 >>I wonder who submitted the photo, and what they know. >> >>Ancestry has some info about his family, death, burial and reburial: >> >>Canada, War Graves Registers (Circumstances of Casualty), 1914-1948 >>about Lorne Arthur Hughes >>Name: Lorne Arthur Hughes >>Death Date: 6 Jul 1917 >>Rank: Lance Corporal >>Unit: 25th Battalion >>Service number: 715764 >>Cemetery: Caldron Military Cemetery >>Cemetery Location: 2 Miles South West of Lens, France >>Burial Place: Lens, France >>* Transcription and double-sided image >>* Same person but different cemetery/grave than recorded on CWGC >>* Died in the trenches >> >>Canada, CEF Commonwealth War Graves Registers, 1914-1919 about L A Hughes >>Name: L A Hughes >>Death Date: 6 Jul 1917 >>Unit: 25th Battalion (Nova Scotia Regiment) >>Rank: Lance Corporal >>Service number: 715764 >>Burial Country: France, Belgium, etc. >>* Transcription and double-sided image of burial/exhumation/reburial >>and notification to parents >> >>1901 Census of Canada about Robert Hughes [father, includes young Lorne] >>Name: Robert Hughes >>Marital Status: Married >>Age: 36 >>Birth Day & Month: 14 Feb >>Birth Year: 1865 >>Birthplace: NS >>Nationality: Canadian >>Religion: Methodist >>Occupation: Carpenter Ship >>Province: Nova Scotia >>District: Cumberland >>... >>Household Members: >>Name Age >>Robert Hughes 36 >>Bessie Hughes 27 >>Phylis Hughes 8 >>Thompson Hughes 6 >>Lorne Hughes 4 >>Price Hughes 2 >>* Image states this father Robert Hughes and mother Bessie both born >>in Nova Scotia, so no immediate connection with Devon >>* Cannot find family in 1911 census of Canada >>* Father was a mariner, may have had seafaring links with South Devon ??? >> >>Regards - Martin >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: elizabeth howard via >>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:57 PM >>To: DEVON >>Subject: [DEV] LORNE ARTHUR HUGHES >> >> Hi, I am compiling biographies of all the WW1 >> soldiers who are on the Budleigh Salterton War Memorial and as >> usual have found several very unlikely Saltertonians. >> Does anyone in Canada have access to anything which >> could give me the background to Lorne Arthur Hughes, he is a Lce >> Corp 25th Bttn Canadian Inf son of Robert and Bessie of Nova Scotia >> . He died aged 19 in July 1917 and is commemorated >> in Loos British Cemetary . >> Can anyone find a link with Devon ? >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>------------------------------------------ >>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >>the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>List archive for Devon can be found at >>http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I know that Somewhere around 1690 to 1700, My direct ancestors George More married Mary Sellick. Their daughter also Mary was born on the 13 August 1698. I have Mary Sellick's will, but have no idea who the people in it are. Or even if William Sellick as stated is her father. She remarried after the death of George More in 1711, that is for certain. I can find her burial at Cullompton in 1743 as Mrs Osmond. It doesn't state if her wishes were carried out. Who was her mother mentioned in the will. I entered in red all the names in the will I've been unable to trace for certain. Most of these just have to be relations. Even if only through marriage. It is thought her second husband was James Osmond. There is a marriage recorded between a Mary More and an Osmond. But it is impossible to be 100% certain. Despite having more information on Mary Sellick than most of the families wives, what I have is really very little, i.e birth place, when, christening, etc., even a marriage date to George More, and where. *************************** Devonshire Wills page 236 & 237 1743. The last will of Mary Osmond of Tiverton, Widow, 10th Feb., 1742. To be buried in "Moores Isle," in Cullompton Church, by the side of her mother. To Kinsman William Bailey the younger, of Tiverton, silver tankard, salver, and punch ladle, the tea cannister, six tea spoons and tongs, and a gold watch. To his wife Mary "a diamond ring with green stone in it," best white satin gown flowered with gold, and "my linnen gown that I brought in London." To kinswoman Susannah Sellick, " If she be living in the same station at Kensington as I lately saw her," a diamond ring and silver podinger. To kinsman William Sellick, £7- 14s. per annum. To kinsman Peter Slape, £50. To Kinswoman Ann, wife of Francis Matthews, £100. To Miss Mary Coles, £50, and to her father Thomas Coles and to Susannah Haviland, a mourning ring each. To Mrs Mary Osmond of Halberton, two pairs of gold buttons, and to Eleanor Floyer, a mourning ring. The Arms of her first husband, "Mr, Moore," to be put on her hearse. Residue to said Wm. Bailey, who is sole Exor. Proved 17th Dec., 1743. Trustees, Saml. Rogers, Rector of Withycombe, Somerset, and Vicar of Halberton; Thomas Balliman, and Thomas Coles. NOTE.- Testatrix, whose marriage licence with "Mr. Moore" is not to be found, and whose maiden name is left blank in the Pedigree of Moore of Moorehays, was probably a daughter of William Sellick, who purchased the right of presentation to Cullompton Church, and presented thereto, in 1710. She was the widow of George Moore of Moorhays, who died 5th Nov., 1711 and by him had an only daughter Mary, the wife of John Blackmore of Sheldon, and the ancestor of the present owner of Moorhays. ************************** If anyone can come up with who anybody was I'm going to be eternally grateful. Terry Blackmore

Fantastic, brick wall well and truly torn asunder I do believe! Thanks for all the very kind replies. But what on earth was going on here I wonder? I've come across various oddities with names before, but I think out of 4000 names on my tree, this has to be the strangest and most confusing by far. Why would Dudd and Tooze be interchangeable like this? Why for instance would the FMP records be different to the ancestry.co.uk records? Surely they are from the same basic source. And why would the family keep switching and omitting names? Or was it them, was it the registrar/parish priest? But I've got something now to get my teeth into. Let's see if some more digging suggests an answer. Thanks again. John Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:32:29 +0100 From: "Tim Treeby (Genealogy)" <genealogy@ttenterprises.co.uk> Subject: Re: [DEV] Tooze family of Ottery St Mary To: devon@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <54206B3D.9030809@ttenterprises.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sorry should be Robert DUDD not DUNN. Believe have found then in 1841 in Ottery St Mary Robert DUDD - 45 Jane DUDD - 30 Elizabeth DUDD - 5 Mary DUDD - 3 Ann DUDD - 5 Months HO107 - Piece 237 - Book 5 - Folio 8 - page 11 Burial of Robert ToozeDUDD, aged 66 in Ottery St Mary 1857, makes est birth date 1791 Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 22/09/2014 19:11, Tim Treeby (Genealogy) via wrote: > Father's name on some is give as Robert on other is Robert Toose > Most likely marriage is Robert DUNN to Jane PRIGG 13 Jan 1828 >

Trewman's Exeter Flying Post (Exeter, England), Thursday, June 5, 1806; Issue 2224. Wednesday last was married at the Quakers' meeting house, Bristol, Richard MILWARD, of Uffculm, Devon, mealman, to Mary CLAPP, widow of Charles CLAPP, ironmonger, of this city.

Hello John: Our Tooze family came from Holcombe Rogus parish, also in Devon, but tucked up right under Somerset - a mile or so out of Wellington. So far I have found 17 other family researchers doing the same family lines that we belong to. Our lines seem to originate in the Somerset parishes north and west of Wellington prior to 1800 - Your Ottery family may have come from there, or Holcombe Rogus (and surrounding parishes) for that matter. Emma was a well liked name in our lines. I'd suggest you try a broader search for your Tooze's. You are right, there are a lot of variations on the name, but Tooze seems to be from Holcombe Rogus. In later years they moved to Gloucester, to Bristol, then from there to Monmouthshire in Wales. There's still a lot of our Tooze's in Wales today. Good luck with your search! Let me know if you are connected to our bunch!!! Sher Leetooze Ontario, Canada Oh, the change in spelling?? That's a story by itself. When Great Grandad was having his kids christened, the parish clerk ran his middle name and his surname together, giving just this branch of the family a new surname!! I had a @#$%^& time finding the Toozes until I discovered what the parish clerk had done!!! <grin> At 05:17 PM 22/09/2014 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > >I've returned today to a long running brick wall on my great great >grandmother Emma Tooze, a surname with a bewildering variety of >alternative spellings. > >Here's what I know. > >She was born about 1844. > >Having obtained her marriage certificate I know her father was Robert. > > >From census records, I think her mother was Jane (Robert does not figure > in the 1851 census, though Jane is apparently still married.) > >In 1861 Emma is a visitor at another household and married by 1871.) > >These records point to Emma's place of birth and residence all her life as >Ottery St Mary. > >But the Tooze family don't make much of a splash in Ottery St Mary. > >I've dug back and forth on the census records, literally eye-balling the >transcripts, and for instance, can see little on the 1841 census, though >there is "Tues" family, which I have to wonder might be connected - if it >is, it's a different branch of the family. > >What would really help is a birth certificate for Emma, but I also can't >find a record of that. > >I'm thinking I could just fire off a hopeful request to the GRO to see if >they can find an Emma Tooze in 1844, but it would be great to have >something more positive to send them. > >Has anyone come across the Tooze family in Ottery St Mary? > >Regards, > >John >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >List archive for Devon can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >Internal Virus Database is out of date. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 >19:45:00

Sorry should be Robert DUDD not DUNN. Believe have found then in 1841 in Ottery St Mary Robert DUDD - 45 Jane DUDD - 30 Elizabeth DUDD - 5 Mary DUDD - 3 Ann DUDD - 5 Months HO107 - Piece 237 - Book 5 - Folio 8 - page 11 Burial of Robert Tooze DUDD, aged 66 in Ottery St Mary 1857, makes est birth date 1791 Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 22/09/2014 19:11, Tim Treeby (Genealogy) via wrote: > Father's name on some is give as Robert on other is Robert Toose > Most likely marriage is Robert DUNN to Jane PRIGG 13 Jan 1828 >

Hi John, Tool a bit of fancy searching but believe I have found them although not surprised you couldn't find them. On FMP there is Baptisms for 6 Children of Robert and Jane Elizabeth Tooze DEB - 1835 Ann Twose DUDD - 1841 Emma Tooze DUDD - 1843 James DUDD - 1830 Robert Toose DUDD - 1833 Jane TOOSE - 1828 Frank TOOZE-DUDD - 1851 Louise TWOSE - 1847 Father's name on some is give as Robert on other is Robert Toose Most likely marriage is Robert DUNN to Jane PRIGG 13 Jan 1828 There is then a Birth of an Emma DUDD Q2 1843 - Honiton - Vol 10 - p 126 Hope this helps Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 22/09/2014 17:17, JOHN GOSLING via wrote: > Hi, > > I've returned today to a long running brick wall on my great great grandmother Emma Tooze, a surname with a bewildering variety of alternative spellings. > > Here's what I know. > > She was born about 1844. > > Having obtained her marriage certificate I know her father was Robert. > > > From census records, I think her mother was Jane (Robert does not figure in the 1851 census, though Jane is apparently still married.) > > In 1861 Emma is a visitor at another household and married by 1871.) > > These records point to Emma's place of birth and residence all her life as Ottery St Mary. > > But the Tooze family don't make much of a splash in Ottery St Mary. > >

Some more great Devon names. When you get these books at Google Books, click on About this Book on the left side of the page, next enter a name or just Devon as I have, and up comes heaps of great reading. Bev http://books.google.com.au/books?id=jtYRAAAAYAAJ&dq=The+monthly+magazine+and+British+register&q=devon#v=snippet&q=devon&f=false

Just put Devon in the search Box http://books.google.com.au/books?id=OdBPAAAAMAAJ&dq=The+monthly+magazine+and+British+register&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Worcestershire 1797 Married - At Powick, P. DELAMOTT, Esq, to Miss SPICER of Devon http://books.google.com.au/books?id=dboRAAAAYAAJ&q=devon#v=snippet&q=devon&f=false For others Just put Devon in the search box at http://books.google.com.au/books?id=dboRAAAAYAAJ&q=devon#v=snippet&q=devon&f=false

Hi, I've returned today to a long running brick wall on my great great grandmother Emma Tooze, a surname with a bewildering variety of alternative spellings. Here's what I know. She was born about 1844. Having obtained her marriage certificate I know her father was Robert. From census records, I think her mother was Jane (Robert does not figure in the 1851 census, though Jane is apparently still married.) In 1861 Emma is a visitor at another household and married by 1871.) These records point to Emma's place of birth and residence all her life as Ottery St Mary. But the Tooze family don't make much of a splash in Ottery St Mary. I've dug back and forth on the census records, literally eye-balling the transcripts, and for instance, can see little on the 1841 census, though there is "Tues" family, which I have to wonder might be connected - if it is, it's a different branch of the family. What would really help is a birth certificate for Emma, but I also can't find a record of that. I'm thinking I could just fire off a hopeful request to the GRO to see if they can find an Emma Tooze in 1844, but it would be great to have something more positive to send them. Has anyone come across the Tooze family in Ottery St Mary? Regards, John

I wonder how many of us older people still have our baptism certificates. At 70 I still have mine. -------------------------------------------------- From: "paul.hockie via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:09 PM To: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au>; <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com>; <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Conditional before Confirmation > My Catholic daughter has just returned from honeymoon. I had her baptism > certificate but she was never confirmed. She was also asked to supply a > letter from her local church agreeing to her marriage outside her local > parish. My impression was that the priest can do what they want subject to > the requirement for civil registration. > > > Paul > > > ________________________________ > From: B. Edmonds via <devon@rootsweb.com> > To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2014, 1:37 > Subject: [DEV] Conditional before Confirmation > > > Just in case no one has come across this before. I have just come across > such an event and thought I would share. Does it still apply today? > > Bev > http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu370.htm > > What is a Conditional Confirmation? > > A. 1. When the Catholic Church cannot prove through Church documents that > a > certain person was baptized and confirmed, it does a conditional baptism > and/or confirmation. That means if the person was confirmed before, then > the > conditional confirmation is not valid. A person cannot be confirmed twice. > But, if the person was never confirmed before, than the conditional > confirmation becomes the official confirmation of the person. > > When is a conditional confirmation necessary? > > When a person decides to get married, he/she must supply proof that he/she > was baptized and confirmed. When such proof cannot be found because the > person does not remember the name of the Church where he/she was confirmed > or the records were destroyed by fire, then the Church implements a > conditional confirmation. > > The ceremony for the conditional baptism and confirmation is similar to > the > standard liturgical procedure. Its implementation is simple and fairly > quick, without any public announcements, large ceremonies, etc... > > Prior to proceding with a conditional confirmation, the pastor must make > the > necessary arrangements with the Bishop or his delegate. > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Will do - many thanks. Ann

My Catholic daughter has just returned from honeymoon. I had her baptism certificate but she was never confirmed. She was also asked to supply a letter from her local church agreeing to her marriage outside her local parish. My impression was that the priest can do what they want subject to the requirement for civil registration. Paul ________________________________ From: B. Edmonds via <devon@rootsweb.com> To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2014, 1:37 Subject: [DEV] Conditional before Confirmation Just in case no one has come across this before. I have just come across such an event and thought I would share. Does it still apply today? Bev http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu370.htm What is a Conditional Confirmation? A. 1. When the Catholic Church cannot prove through Church documents that a certain person was baptized and confirmed, it does a conditional baptism and/or confirmation. That means if the person was confirmed before, then the conditional confirmation is not valid. A person cannot be confirmed twice. But, if the person was never confirmed before, than the conditional confirmation becomes the official confirmation of the person. When is a conditional confirmation necessary? When a person decides to get married, he/she must supply proof that he/she was baptized and confirmed. When such proof cannot be found because the person does not remember the name of the Church where he/she was confirmed or the records were destroyed by fire, then the Church implements a conditional confirmation. The ceremony for the conditional baptism and confirmation is similar to the standard liturgical procedure. Its implementation is simple and fairly quick, without any public announcements, large ceremonies, etc... Prior to proceding with a conditional confirmation, the pastor must make the necessary arrangements with the Bishop or his delegate. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello If it is of any use, Ancestry has Robert & Bessie indexed in 1911 in the Canadian census under "Hugha" Another site, Automatedgenealogy.com has the family correctly indexed. They can be found at http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SurnameSearch.jsp?surname=Hughes&districtId=42 1911 Census of Canada <http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html>Home / <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test4.jsp>1911 / <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test6.jsp?province=Nova%20Scotia>Nova Scotia / <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test3.jsp?did=42>Cumberland / <http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/EnumerationDistrict.jsp?id=325>25 Port Greville poll district no. 34 / page 5 37 49 Hughes Robert M Head M Jul 1867 44 38 49 Hughes Bessie F Wife M Mar 1874 37 39 49 Hughes Phyllis F Daughter S Jan 1893 18 40 49 Hughes Thompson M Son S Jul 1895 16 41 49 Hughes Lorne M Son S Mar 1897 14 42 49 Hughes Price M Son S Mar 1899 12 43 49 Hughes Graham M Son S Sep 1900 10 44 49 Hughes Walter M Son S Mar 1903 8 45 49 Hughes ? M Son S Jun 1905 5 46 49 Hughes Horace M Son S Jun 1909 1 47 50 Hughes Fred M Head M Oct 1873 37 48 50 Hughes Ida F Wife M May 1876 35 49 50 Hughes Alvin M Son S May 1901 10 50 50 Hughes Arthur M Son S Dec 1902 8 A quick check of the 1881 census shows a Robert Hugh (this is how it is indexed), age 16, born in NS, livng with his parents and siblings in Parsboro, Cumberland, NS. Name: Robert Hugh Gender: Male Age: 16 Birth Year: 1865 Birthplace: Nova Scotia Religion: Wesleyan Methodist There is a birth registration for Robert Wesley Hughes, Diligent River, Cumberland https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/ItemView.aspx?ImageFile=1805-5&Event=birth&ID=20670 which agrees with the above census (i.e. parents' names are correct). This census shows both parents born in Nova Scotia, so the Devon link is becoming more elusive. Good luck with it Gerry Poulton Devon FHS member and OPC for Combeinteignhead At 09:57 AM 2014-09-18, Martin Beavis via wrote: >Hi Elizabeth - Can't help you with any Devon connection but I did >read recently that English war memorials often included the names of >casualties whose last known residence, even if rather transient, was >in that parish. The image of his enlistment papers are at >http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=475745 >He was an unmarried draughtsman living at home in Canada when he >enlisted. And we have his photo! >http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/562411 >I wonder who submitted the photo, and what they know. > >Ancestry has some info about his family, death, burial and reburial: > >Canada, War Graves Registers (Circumstances of Casualty), 1914-1948 >about Lorne Arthur Hughes >Name: Lorne Arthur Hughes >Death Date: 6 Jul 1917 >Rank: Lance Corporal >Unit: 25th Battalion >Service number: 715764 >Cemetery: Caldron Military Cemetery >Cemetery Location: 2 Miles South West of Lens, France >Burial Place: Lens, France >* Transcription and double-sided image >* Same person but different cemetery/grave than recorded on CWGC >* Died in the trenches > >Canada, CEF Commonwealth War Graves Registers, 1914-1919 about L A Hughes >Name: L A Hughes >Death Date: 6 Jul 1917 >Unit: 25th Battalion (Nova Scotia Regiment) >Rank: Lance Corporal >Service number: 715764 >Burial Country: France, Belgium, etc. >* Transcription and double-sided image of burial/exhumation/reburial >and notification to parents > >1901 Census of Canada about Robert Hughes [father, includes young Lorne] >Name: Robert Hughes >Marital Status: Married >Age: 36 >Birth Day & Month: 14 Feb >Birth Year: 1865 >Birthplace: NS >Nationality: Canadian >Religion: Methodist >Occupation: Carpenter Ship >Province: Nova Scotia >District: Cumberland >... >Household Members: >Name Age >Robert Hughes 36 >Bessie Hughes 27 >Phylis Hughes 8 >Thompson Hughes 6 >Lorne Hughes 4 >Price Hughes 2 >* Image states this father Robert Hughes and mother Bessie both born >in Nova Scotia, so no immediate connection with Devon >* Cannot find family in 1911 census of Canada >* Father was a mariner, may have had seafaring links with South Devon ??? > >Regards - Martin > >-----Original Message----- >From: elizabeth howard via >Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:57 PM >To: DEVON >Subject: [DEV] LORNE ARTHUR HUGHES > > Hi, I am compiling biographies of all the WW1 > soldiers who are on the Budleigh Salterton War Memorial and as > usual have found several very unlikely Saltertonians. > Does anyone in Canada have access to anything which > could give me the background to Lorne Arthur Hughes, he is a Lce > Corp 25th Bttn Canadian Inf son of Robert and Bessie of Nova Scotia > . He died aged 19 in July 1917 and is commemorated > in Loos British Cemetary . > Can anyone find a link with Devon ? >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >List archive for Devon can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LDS Family Search shows in 1851 that she was born Ottery St. Mary Emma Toozs On the 1861 she is Emma Twose still in Ottery St. M. Free BMD shows Emma Tooz a registration of birth in 1843 Wellington which is very near Ottery St. M. A possible marriage in Honiton 1862. Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: JOHN GOSLING via Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:17 PM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Tooze family of Ottery St Mary Hi, I've returned today to a long running brick wall on my great great grandmother Emma Tooze, a surname with a bewildering variety of alternative spellings. Here's what I know. She was born about 1844. Having obtained her marriage certificate I know her father was Robert. >From census records, I think her mother was Jane (Robert does not figure in >the 1851 census, though Jane is apparently still married.) In 1861 Emma is a visitor at another household and married by 1871.) These records point to Emma's place of birth and residence all her life as Ottery St Mary. But the Tooze family don't make much of a splash in Ottery St Mary. I've dug back and forth on the census records, literally eye-balling the transcripts, and for instance, can see little on the 1841 census, though there is "Tues" family, which I have to wonder might be connected - if it is, it's a different branch of the family. What would really help is a birth certificate for Emma, but I also can't find a record of that. I'm thinking I could just fire off a hopeful request to the GRO to see if they can find an Emma Tooze in 1844, but it would be great to have something more positive to send them. Has anyone come across the Tooze family in Ottery St Mary? Regards, John

Hi one and all Yes I check the spam folder every couple of hours. Having been ill for a few weeks it could be that I just deleted emails without looking properly at where they came from. The daze is lifting now, so I'll be on top of it. Regards Ann in sunny 9am, hot 11am,cold 2pm ,wet the rest of it, Perth

I believe so. I do know that a Catholic being married within the Church must show proof of having been baptized and confirmed. Carol Gertner e-Mail: CGertner@mac.com On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:37 PM, B. Edmonds via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Just in case no one has come across this before. I have just come across > such an event and thought I would share. Does it still apply today? > > Bev > http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu370.htm > > What is a Conditional Confirmation? > > A. 1. When the Catholic Church cannot prove through Church documents that a > certain person was baptized and confirmed, it does a conditional baptism > and/or confirmation. That means if the person was confirmed before, then the > conditional confirmation is not valid. A person cannot be confirmed twice. > But, if the person was never confirmed before, than the conditional > confirmation becomes the official confirmation of the person. > > When is a conditional confirmation necessary? > > When a person decides to get married, he/she must supply proof that he/she > was baptized and confirmed. When such proof cannot be found because the > person does not remember the name of the Church where he/she was confirmed > or the records were destroyed by fire, then the Church implements a > conditional confirmation. > > The ceremony for the conditional baptism and confirmation is similar to the > standard liturgical procedure. Its implementation is simple and fairly > quick, without any public announcements, large ceremonies, etc... > > Prior to proceding with a conditional confirmation, the pastor must make the > necessary arrangements with the Bishop or his delegate. > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

try the archives -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SBS Engineers Research via Sent: 22 September 2014 05:12 To: Paul Hockie; devon@rootsweb.com; devon Subject: [DEV] testing Hi one and all Yes I check the spam folder every couple of hours. Having been ill for a few weeks it could be that I just deleted emails without looking properly at where they came from. The daze is lifting now, so I'll be on top of it. Regards Ann in sunny 9am, hot 11am,cold 2pm ,wet the rest of it, Perth ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You passed the test :) On 21/09/2014 4:04 PM, SBS Engineers Research via wrote: > I just realized that I have not had any emails from this list in a long > time. Curious! > > > > Kind regards > > Ann Spiro > > Perth, Western Australia > > research@sbse.net.au <mailto:research@sbse.ent.au> > > OLD site: The Blacksmiths & Related Occupations Website : > http://tinyurl.com/2948r4v <http://tinyurl.com/2948r4v> > > NEW site: The Blacksmiths & Related Occupations Website > http://blacksmiths.mygenwebs.com <http://blacksmiths@mygenwebs.com> > > > > Guild of One Name Studies: > > Guild ONS Representative for WA & NT. > rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org > <mailto:rep-australia-north-west@one-name.org> > > Guild registered surnames: BASKETT; BRIGGS & NUTTY > http://www.one-name.org/ <http://www.one-name.org/> > > Baskett DNA Project: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett > <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baskett> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >