I have an Ann Vanstone Chubb (1842-1909) She was the dau of Fanny Vanstone (1805-1886) and John Chubb (1805 - 1875). She married James Border (1843 - 1896) in 1867 Hope this helps Robin Border On 2 Oct 2014, at 02:44, Betty Galloway via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Ruth, > The only Anne Vanstone I have was born in 1839 and was the dau. of John > Vanstone and Susanna Youlden. She was probaly born in Inwardleigh. John > had a brother James Vanstone born abt 1823 in Hatherleigh. They were the > sons of Richard Vanstone and Jane Ward and their occupations were > carpenters They seemed to have very large families > Betty > On 10/1/2014 3:48 PM, Ruth Wilson wrote: >> Hi Bettty, >> >> My immediate Vanstone ancestor was Ann Vanstone who was baptised at Broadwoodkelly on 23 Mar 1791. She married William Pedrick on 20 Feb 1812 at Hatherleigh church. >> William was a blacksmith and in 1851 a James Vanstone was his apprentice (aged 19 born Hatherleigh). I haven't yet worked out how James is related to Ann but I would guess there is some relationship. They were living at 14 Conduit Street, Hatherleigh. >> I would be interested to know if this fits in with your Vanstone family. >> >> Thank you >> >> Ruth >> On 1 Oct 2014, at 18:03, Betty Galloway via wrote: >> >>> My husband had Vanstone ancestors from the Hatherleigh area >>> Betty >>> On 9/30/2014 8:19 AM, Ruth Wilson via wrote: >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> You say you have extensive information about the Vanstone family. Do either of the branches you researched come from Broadwoodkelly?. I have a Christopher Vanstone (1786 - 1810) and his nephew Christopher Vanstone (bap 1810) both baptised in Broadwoodkelly. It is not a particularly common name so I wondered if there was a family link. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Ruth >>>> On 29 Sep 2014, at 21:18, hopper via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Richard, >>>>> >>>>> My Wife grandmother was Mary Ann Vinnicombe born about 1848 in South Molton, she married Christoper Vanstone, 14th. May, 1870, and they had four children then >>>>> settling in and around Exeter. We know no more about her! >>>>> >>>>> Two of us have extensive information about the Vanstone families and we both descend from what appears to be different branches which may be of no interest to you. >>>>> >>>>> I had a quick look at my aged Vinnicombe file and saw there are 13 in Exeter phone book. There is also Vearncombe and one Vinniecombe. >>>>> >>>>> We were looking recent for a David Vinnicombe who was supposedly a relative of ours aged u/k. >>>>> >>>>> Thought this may help! >>>>> >>>>> Dave. >>>>> ======================================== >>>>> Message Received: Sep 24 2014, 09:08 AM >>>>> From: "Richard Jones via" >>>>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Subject: [DEV] JOHN VINNICOMBE b.1767 in Devon. >>>>> >>>>> Hallo Martin, >>>>> >>>>> I thank you very much for your long email of 18 Sept 14 which was extremely helpful and has stopped me in my tracks. I went for a long weekend to Scotland on Friday >>>>> morning, hence could not rep[y until I came back. The message I send yesterday (Monday) has bounced back as too large, including your long message to me as point >>>>> of reference. Anyhow, my message reflected on the veracity of my non-public tree before getting to John VINNICOMBE b. 1767. I am 100 per cent sure that I have the >>>>> correct records for my grandmother Alice Maud VINNICOMBE b.Payhembury 1876 and great grandfather Richard VINNICOMBE b. Bradninch 1842. My source is >>>>> unambiguous documentation and family memory. >>>>> >>>>> Richard’s father, according to his BC, was a Simon VINNICOMBE. I am reasonably happy that I have the right Simon who married Sarah PLEASE b. Kentisbeare, and >>>>> who fits in with the subsequent censuses and death, i.e.. my gt grandfather’s mother is documented as Sarah VINNICOMBE who died in Plymtree in 1891. The >>>>> VINNICOMBE/PLEASE marriage took place in Broadhembury on 21 Jan 1830. So far, I have been unable to identify another Simon who foots the bill. Possible >>>>> contestants for Simon with the double Plymtree baptism are: Simon V. bp 1 Jun 1794 to Simon and Elizabeth in slightly further away Whimple and bp 1 May 1803 to >>>>> Simon and Ann in Plympton Erl? However, they would have to have married a Sarah to fit in with the following generation. >>>>> >>>>> As far as the 1841 census is concerned, I had taken the 45 yr. old John, brother of Simon, to be the one born on 01 Oct 1794 in Plymtree to John and Elizabeth (Vesey) >>>>> and who was to marry Lydia Selway, the eventual informant of John’s 1842 death. . I saw no need to look in other parishes as this John fitted well. I have the Book of >>>>> Plymtree which on page 145 confirms, rightly or wrongly, that the occupants of Perhams Green Cottage were Simon and John and their families, including their father >>>>> John and younger brother Robert. Of the two other Cullompton baptisms that you mention, I prefer the Plymtree one in 1794 just mentioned for John, but feel that the >>>>> Robart one in 1800 in Cullompton is a distinct possibility of being John’s b. abt 1767’s son. So in the 1841 census John was born 1794 in Plymtree and Robert could >>>>> well have been born in 1800 in Cullompton. These two birth dates are not too close. I think that the Cullompton John born 1797 was not the John who appeared in the >>>>> 1841 census and promptly died thereafter because the age at death was 75, thereby fitting a 1767 birth. >>>>> >>>>> I think that I have answered a part of your Boolean question in that I feel that I am quite probably descended John VINNICOMBE who married Elizabeth VESEY and >>>>> that there is only one John VINNICOMBE – not a young and an old one. The fact that I believe that two JOHN’S are not involved, precludes the possibility of Simon and >>>>> John/Robert having different fathers, so that the Book of Plymtree may well be right. Whilst there are still checks to be made, I am quietly optimistic that Simon’s >>>>> b.Plymtree 1797 father is John b. 1767 in Devon. >>>>> >>>>> I would be interest to hear where you contest my thinking and will revert to more of your email at a later stage. I cannot thank you enough for your detailed analysis, >>>>> which is highly appreciated. These thanks go also to all Listers who have joined in this thread. I apologize to anyone who thought that they should have received a fairer >>>>> hearing from me. Y am not including your initial message as, due to its length, it might block the acceptance of this message. >>>>> >>>>> Best Wishes, Richard from Brighton. >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>>> message >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
And also apologise for using it to contact same name.. But you're the first 'active' Searle I've come across. I'm researching my Searle family, Staverton, Devon. Prob no relation to you but worth asking? > On 1 Oct 2014, at 21:32, CKeith Searle via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Sorry to use the list as a finding aid but if Michael Hooper is on this > list could he get in touch please. I want to respond to his kind offer to > provide transcripts of Glenorchy Chapel, Exmouth registers but the email > address he gave me just keeps bouncing back. > > > > > > Keith Searle > > > > OPC for Littleham, Woodbury and Withycombe Raleigh > > > > > > <a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/keith-searle/25/534/277"> > > <img > src="https://static.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_viewmy_160x25.p > ng" width="160" height="25" border="0" alt="View Keith Searle's profile on > LinkedIn"> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Bettty, My immediate Vanstone ancestor was Ann Vanstone who was baptised at Broadwoodkelly on 23 Mar 1791. She married William Pedrick on 20 Feb 1812 at Hatherleigh church. William was a blacksmith and in 1851 a James Vanstone was his apprentice (aged 19 born Hatherleigh). I haven't yet worked out how James is related to Ann but I would guess there is some relationship. They were living at 14 Conduit Street, Hatherleigh. I would be interested to know if this fits in with your Vanstone family. Thank you Ruth On 1 Oct 2014, at 18:03, Betty Galloway via wrote: > My husband had Vanstone ancestors from the Hatherleigh area > Betty > On 9/30/2014 8:19 AM, Ruth Wilson via wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> You say you have extensive information about the Vanstone family. Do either of the branches you researched come from Broadwoodkelly?. I have a Christopher Vanstone (1786 - 1810) and his nephew Christopher Vanstone (bap 1810) both baptised in Broadwoodkelly. It is not a particularly common name so I wondered if there was a family link. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ruth >> On 29 Sep 2014, at 21:18, hopper via wrote: >> >>> Hi Richard, >>> >>> My Wife grandmother was Mary Ann Vinnicombe born about 1848 in South Molton, she married Christoper Vanstone, 14th. May, 1870, and they had four children then >>> settling in and around Exeter. We know no more about her! >>> >>> Two of us have extensive information about the Vanstone families and we both descend from what appears to be different branches which may be of no interest to you. >>> >>> I had a quick look at my aged Vinnicombe file and saw there are 13 in Exeter phone book. There is also Vearncombe and one Vinniecombe. >>> >>> We were looking recent for a David Vinnicombe who was supposedly a relative of ours aged u/k. >>> >>> Thought this may help! >>> >>> Dave. >>> ======================================== >>> Message Received: Sep 24 2014, 09:08 AM >>> From: "Richard Jones via" >>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: >>> Subject: [DEV] JOHN VINNICOMBE b.1767 in Devon. >>> >>> Hallo Martin, >>> >>> I thank you very much for your long email of 18 Sept 14 which was extremely helpful and has stopped me in my tracks. I went for a long weekend to Scotland on Friday >>> morning, hence could not rep[y until I came back. The message I send yesterday (Monday) has bounced back as too large, including your long message to me as point >>> of reference. Anyhow, my message reflected on the veracity of my non-public tree before getting to John VINNICOMBE b. 1767. I am 100 per cent sure that I have the >>> correct records for my grandmother Alice Maud VINNICOMBE b.Payhembury 1876 and great grandfather Richard VINNICOMBE b. Bradninch 1842. My source is >>> unambiguous documentation and family memory. >>> >>> Richard’s father, according to his BC, was a Simon VINNICOMBE. I am reasonably happy that I have the right Simon who married Sarah PLEASE b. Kentisbeare, and >>> who fits in with the subsequent censuses and death, i.e.. my gt grandfather’s mother is documented as Sarah VINNICOMBE who died in Plymtree in 1891. The >>> VINNICOMBE/PLEASE marriage took place in Broadhembury on 21 Jan 1830. So far, I have been unable to identify another Simon who foots the bill. Possible >>> contestants for Simon with the double Plymtree baptism are: Simon V. bp 1 Jun 1794 to Simon and Elizabeth in slightly further away Whimple and bp 1 May 1803 to >>> Simon and Ann in Plympton Erl? However, they would have to have married a Sarah to fit in with the following generation. >>> >>> As far as the 1841 census is concerned, I had taken the 45 yr. old John, brother of Simon, to be the one born on 01 Oct 1794 in Plymtree to John and Elizabeth (Vesey) >>> and who was to marry Lydia Selway, the eventual informant of John’s 1842 death. . I saw no need to look in other parishes as this John fitted well. I have the Book of >>> Plymtree which on page 145 confirms, rightly or wrongly, that the occupants of Perhams Green Cottage were Simon and John and their families, including their father >>> John and younger brother Robert. Of the two other Cullompton baptisms that you mention, I prefer the Plymtree one in 1794 just mentioned for John, but feel that the >>> Robart one in 1800 in Cullompton is a distinct possibility of being John’s b. abt 1767’s son. So in the 1841 census John was born 1794 in Plymtree and Robert could >>> well have been born in 1800 in Cullompton. These two birth dates are not too close. I think that the Cullompton John born 1797 was not the John who appeared in the >>> 1841 census and promptly died thereafter because the age at death was 75, thereby fitting a 1767 birth. >>> >>> I think that I have answered a part of your Boolean question in that I feel that I am quite probably descended John VINNICOMBE who married Elizabeth VESEY and >>> that there is only one John VINNICOMBE – not a young and an old one. The fact that I believe that two JOHN’S are not involved, precludes the possibility of Simon and >>> John/Robert having different fathers, so that the Book of Plymtree may well be right. Whilst there are still checks to be made, I am quietly optimistic that Simon’s >>> b.Plymtree 1797 father is John b. 1767 in Devon. >>> >>> I would be interest to hear where you contest my thinking and will revert to more of your email at a later stage. I cannot thank you enough for your detailed analysis, >>> which is highly appreciated. These thanks go also to all Listers who have joined in this thread. I apologize to anyone who thought that they should have received a fairer >>> hearing from me. Y am not including your initial message as, due to its length, it might block the acceptance of this message. >>> >>> Best Wishes, Richard from Brighton. >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sorry to use the list as a finding aid but if Michael Hooper is on this list could he get in touch please. I want to respond to his kind offer to provide transcripts of Glenorchy Chapel, Exmouth registers but the email address he gave me just keeps bouncing back. Keith Searle OPC for Littleham, Woodbury and Withycombe Raleigh <a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/keith-searle/25/534/277"> <img src="https://static.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_viewmy_160x25.p ng" width="160" height="25" border="0" alt="View Keith Searle's profile on LinkedIn">
Hi Ruth, The only Anne Vanstone I have was born in 1839 and was the dau. of John Vanstone and Susanna Youlden. She was probaly born in Inwardleigh. John had a brother James Vanstone born abt 1823 in Hatherleigh. They were the sons of Richard Vanstone and Jane Ward and their occupations were carpenters They seemed to have very large families Betty On 10/1/2014 3:48 PM, Ruth Wilson wrote: > Hi Bettty, > > My immediate Vanstone ancestor was Ann Vanstone who was baptised at Broadwoodkelly on 23 Mar 1791. She married William Pedrick on 20 Feb 1812 at Hatherleigh church. > William was a blacksmith and in 1851 a James Vanstone was his apprentice (aged 19 born Hatherleigh). I haven't yet worked out how James is related to Ann but I would guess there is some relationship. They were living at 14 Conduit Street, Hatherleigh. > I would be interested to know if this fits in with your Vanstone family. > > Thank you > > Ruth > On 1 Oct 2014, at 18:03, Betty Galloway via wrote: > >> My husband had Vanstone ancestors from the Hatherleigh area >> Betty >> On 9/30/2014 8:19 AM, Ruth Wilson via wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> You say you have extensive information about the Vanstone family. Do either of the branches you researched come from Broadwoodkelly?. I have a Christopher Vanstone (1786 - 1810) and his nephew Christopher Vanstone (bap 1810) both baptised in Broadwoodkelly. It is not a particularly common name so I wondered if there was a family link. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Ruth >>> On 29 Sep 2014, at 21:18, hopper via wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Richard, >>>> >>>> My Wife grandmother was Mary Ann Vinnicombe born about 1848 in South Molton, she married Christoper Vanstone, 14th. May, 1870, and they had four children then >>>> settling in and around Exeter. We know no more about her! >>>> >>>> Two of us have extensive information about the Vanstone families and we both descend from what appears to be different branches which may be of no interest to you. >>>> >>>> I had a quick look at my aged Vinnicombe file and saw there are 13 in Exeter phone book. There is also Vearncombe and one Vinniecombe. >>>> >>>> We were looking recent for a David Vinnicombe who was supposedly a relative of ours aged u/k. >>>> >>>> Thought this may help! >>>> >>>> Dave. >>>> ======================================== >>>> Message Received: Sep 24 2014, 09:08 AM >>>> From: "Richard Jones via" >>>> To: devon@rootsweb.com >>>> Cc: >>>> Subject: [DEV] JOHN VINNICOMBE b.1767 in Devon. >>>> >>>> Hallo Martin, >>>> >>>> I thank you very much for your long email of 18 Sept 14 which was extremely helpful and has stopped me in my tracks. I went for a long weekend to Scotland on Friday >>>> morning, hence could not rep[y until I came back. The message I send yesterday (Monday) has bounced back as too large, including your long message to me as point >>>> of reference. Anyhow, my message reflected on the veracity of my non-public tree before getting to John VINNICOMBE b. 1767. I am 100 per cent sure that I have the >>>> correct records for my grandmother Alice Maud VINNICOMBE b.Payhembury 1876 and great grandfather Richard VINNICOMBE b. Bradninch 1842. My source is >>>> unambiguous documentation and family memory. >>>> >>>> Richard’s father, according to his BC, was a Simon VINNICOMBE. I am reasonably happy that I have the right Simon who married Sarah PLEASE b. Kentisbeare, and >>>> who fits in with the subsequent censuses and death, i.e.. my gt grandfather’s mother is documented as Sarah VINNICOMBE who died in Plymtree in 1891. The >>>> VINNICOMBE/PLEASE marriage took place in Broadhembury on 21 Jan 1830. So far, I have been unable to identify another Simon who foots the bill. Possible >>>> contestants for Simon with the double Plymtree baptism are: Simon V. bp 1 Jun 1794 to Simon and Elizabeth in slightly further away Whimple and bp 1 May 1803 to >>>> Simon and Ann in Plympton Erl? However, they would have to have married a Sarah to fit in with the following generation. >>>> >>>> As far as the 1841 census is concerned, I had taken the 45 yr. old John, brother of Simon, to be the one born on 01 Oct 1794 in Plymtree to John and Elizabeth (Vesey) >>>> and who was to marry Lydia Selway, the eventual informant of John’s 1842 death. . I saw no need to look in other parishes as this John fitted well. I have the Book of >>>> Plymtree which on page 145 confirms, rightly or wrongly, that the occupants of Perhams Green Cottage were Simon and John and their families, including their father >>>> John and younger brother Robert. Of the two other Cullompton baptisms that you mention, I prefer the Plymtree one in 1794 just mentioned for John, but feel that the >>>> Robart one in 1800 in Cullompton is a distinct possibility of being John’s b. abt 1767’s son. So in the 1841 census John was born 1794 in Plymtree and Robert could >>>> well have been born in 1800 in Cullompton. These two birth dates are not too close. I think that the Cullompton John born 1797 was not the John who appeared in the >>>> 1841 census and promptly died thereafter because the age at death was 75, thereby fitting a 1767 birth. >>>> >>>> I think that I have answered a part of your Boolean question in that I feel that I am quite probably descended John VINNICOMBE who married Elizabeth VESEY and >>>> that there is only one John VINNICOMBE – not a young and an old one. The fact that I believe that two JOHN’S are not involved, precludes the possibility of Simon and >>>> John/Robert having different fathers, so that the Book of Plymtree may well be right. Whilst there are still checks to be made, I am quietly optimistic that Simon’s >>>> b.Plymtree 1797 father is John b. 1767 in Devon. >>>> >>>> I would be interest to hear where you contest my thinking and will revert to more of your email at a later stage. I cannot thank you enough for your detailed analysis, >>>> which is highly appreciated. These thanks go also to all Listers who have joined in this thread. I apologize to anyone who thought that they should have received a fairer >>>> hearing from me. Y am not including your initial message as, due to its length, it might block the acceptance of this message. >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, Richard from Brighton. >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>>> message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Hi: GENUKI/Devon - What's New, September 2014 No. of pages added/amended: 55 Major additions: • Devon - Church History: Ecclesiastical Antiquities of Devon (1840 - Volume 1) - index • Devon - History: The Note-Book of Tristram Risdon, 1608-1628: - Knights and Distinguished Men of Devon (1897) - index • Barnstaple: Will of John Light, Gunsmith, Armourer of His Majesty's Sloop Dispatch (1769) - transcript • Brixham St Mary: Will of Christopher Youlden, Sailor of Brixham (1703) - transcript • Crediton: Articles from Trewman’s Exeter Flying Post 1861 - 1880 - transcript • Brixham St Mary: Will of Christopher Youlden, Sailor of Brixham (1703) - transcript • Lamerton: Will of Susanna Yolland, Spinster (1839) - transcript • St Budeaux: Will of Henry Maingay (1847) - transcript Cheers Brian Randell School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brian.randell
My husband had Vanstone ancestors from the Hatherleigh area Betty On 9/30/2014 8:19 AM, Ruth Wilson via wrote: > Hi Dave, > > You say you have extensive information about the Vanstone family. Do either of the branches you researched come from Broadwoodkelly?. I have a Christopher Vanstone (1786 - 1810) and his nephew Christopher Vanstone (bap 1810) both baptised in Broadwoodkelly. It is not a particularly common name so I wondered if there was a family link. > > Thanks, > > Ruth > On 29 Sep 2014, at 21:18, hopper via wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> My Wife grandmother was Mary Ann Vinnicombe born about 1848 in South Molton, she married Christoper Vanstone, 14th. May, 1870, and they had four children then >> settling in and around Exeter. We know no more about her! >> >> Two of us have extensive information about the Vanstone families and we both descend from what appears to be different branches which may be of no interest to you. >> >> I had a quick look at my aged Vinnicombe file and saw there are 13 in Exeter phone book. There is also Vearncombe and one Vinniecombe. >> >> We were looking recent for a David Vinnicombe who was supposedly a relative of ours aged u/k. >> >> Thought this may help! >> >> Dave. >> ======================================== >> Message Received: Sep 24 2014, 09:08 AM >> From: "Richard Jones via" >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Cc: >> Subject: [DEV] JOHN VINNICOMBE b.1767 in Devon. >> >> Hallo Martin, >> >> I thank you very much for your long email of 18 Sept 14 which was extremely helpful and has stopped me in my tracks. I went for a long weekend to Scotland on Friday >> morning, hence could not rep[y until I came back. The message I send yesterday (Monday) has bounced back as too large, including your long message to me as point >> of reference. Anyhow, my message reflected on the veracity of my non-public tree before getting to John VINNICOMBE b. 1767. I am 100 per cent sure that I have the >> correct records for my grandmother Alice Maud VINNICOMBE b.Payhembury 1876 and great grandfather Richard VINNICOMBE b. Bradninch 1842. My source is >> unambiguous documentation and family memory. >> >> Richard’s father, according to his BC, was a Simon VINNICOMBE. I am reasonably happy that I have the right Simon who married Sarah PLEASE b. Kentisbeare, and >> who fits in with the subsequent censuses and death, i.e.. my gt grandfather’s mother is documented as Sarah VINNICOMBE who died in Plymtree in 1891. The >> VINNICOMBE/PLEASE marriage took place in Broadhembury on 21 Jan 1830. So far, I have been unable to identify another Simon who foots the bill. Possible >> contestants for Simon with the double Plymtree baptism are: Simon V. bp 1 Jun 1794 to Simon and Elizabeth in slightly further away Whimple and bp 1 May 1803 to >> Simon and Ann in Plympton Erl? However, they would have to have married a Sarah to fit in with the following generation. >> >> As far as the 1841 census is concerned, I had taken the 45 yr. old John, brother of Simon, to be the one born on 01 Oct 1794 in Plymtree to John and Elizabeth (Vesey) >> and who was to marry Lydia Selway, the eventual informant of John’s 1842 death. . I saw no need to look in other parishes as this John fitted well. I have the Book of >> Plymtree which on page 145 confirms, rightly or wrongly, that the occupants of Perhams Green Cottage were Simon and John and their families, including their father >> John and younger brother Robert. Of the two other Cullompton baptisms that you mention, I prefer the Plymtree one in 1794 just mentioned for John, but feel that the >> Robart one in 1800 in Cullompton is a distinct possibility of being John’s b. abt 1767’s son. So in the 1841 census John was born 1794 in Plymtree and Robert could >> well have been born in 1800 in Cullompton. These two birth dates are not too close. I think that the Cullompton John born 1797 was not the John who appeared in the >> 1841 census and promptly died thereafter because the age at death was 75, thereby fitting a 1767 birth. >> >> I think that I have answered a part of your Boolean question in that I feel that I am quite probably descended John VINNICOMBE who married Elizabeth VESEY and >> that there is only one John VINNICOMBE – not a young and an old one. The fact that I believe that two JOHN’S are not involved, precludes the possibility of Simon and >> John/Robert having different fathers, so that the Book of Plymtree may well be right. Whilst there are still checks to be made, I am quietly optimistic that Simon’s >> b.Plymtree 1797 father is John b. 1767 in Devon. >> >> I would be interest to hear where you contest my thinking and will revert to more of your email at a later stage. I cannot thank you enough for your detailed analysis, >> which is highly appreciated. These thanks go also to all Listers who have joined in this thread. I apologize to anyone who thought that they should have received a fairer >> hearing from me. Y am not including your initial message as, due to its length, it might block the acceptance of this message. >> >> Best Wishes, Richard from Brighton. >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Thanks Elizabeth He's not in Cornwall either. Maybe he is one of those "missing' or perhaps one of the baptised, but unnamed babies. There is one in Crediton about the right time. Some didn't leave much of a trail to find! Judy -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard [mailto:elizgh@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2014 7:17 PM To: Judy & John Smith; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Burridges of Crediton Hi, Cornwall might be a possibility and the registers not surviving earlier than 1700 might also be. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy & John Smith via" <devon@rootsweb.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:07 AM Subject: [DEV] Burridges of Crediton > > > Thanks Elizabeth. > > Yes there are a lot of Burridges (allowing for a myriad of spellings!) in > and around Crediton. > > I just can't seem to find a baptism for Hugh! > > Based on his marriage in 1721, he could have been born any time from > around > 1680 to 1700. > > In fact the only Hugh Burridges I can find are from his marriage onwards - > ie his son, grandson, gt-grandson. > > This is my current brick wall, if anyone can find a baptism for Hugh I > will > be ecstatic! > > > > I sent this in reply to Elizabeth's answer , but it doesn't seem to have > reached the list - should I have "replied to all" > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Not Dorchester in Dorset but Exeter. Bruce Peeke East Devon -----Original Message----- From: janegould via Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:20 PM To: liverpud ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Devon Treasure Trove Hi It said in my newspaper that the value of the hoard would be divided equally between the finder and the land owner. I think they were hoping a local museum (Dorchester?) would buy it. Jane Gould (in sunny Whitley Bay) -----Original Message----- From: liverpud via Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:28 PM To: DEVON-L Subject: [DEV] Devon Treasure Trove Devon treasure hunter discovered 22,000 Roman coins: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29399437 Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? Edna - sunny Ottawa ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It's far too complicated to say what the outcome will be until a court rules on it. My own personal opinion is I'll wait for the outcome in a court, and not guess.
Hi, It would be declared as treasure trove and the Coroner would adjudicate, slightly different if it was gold or silver. Metal detectorist have an association and code of conduct. Clinton Estates the owner of the land and the find would have a half share of the value and the powers that be are trying to keep the find in Devon according to "Spotlight" our West country Newcasters. Dave. ======================================== Message Received: Sep 30 2014, 04:52 PM From: "Brad Rogers via" To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [DEV] Devon Treasure Trove On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:28:11 -0400 liverpud via wrote: Hello liverpud, >Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? Anything from 5 coins upwards is classed as a hoard and must be notified to (I think) the local Antiquities Scheme Finds Liaison Office. Any hoard belongs to the state. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If a thought came in your head it would die of loneliness I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Not Strictly true, the 1996 treasure act overs "treasure" it says:- The Treasure Act 1996 is an Act of Parliament designed to deal with finds of treasure in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. It legally obliges finders of objects which constitute a legally defined term of treasure to report their find to their local coroner within fourteen days. An inquest led by the coroner then determines whether the find constitutes treasure or not. If it is declared to be treasure then the owner must offer the item for sale to a museum at a price set by an independent board of antiquities experts (Treasure Valuation Committee). Only if a museum expresses no interest in the item, or is unable to purchase it, can the owner retain it. 'Treasure' is defined as being: * All coins from the same hoard. A hoard is defined as two or more coins, as long as they are at least 300 years old when found. If they contain less than 10% gold or silver there must be at least 10 in the hoard for it to qualify. * Two or more prehistoric base metal objects in association with one another * Any individual (non-coin) find that is at least 300 years old and contains at least 10% gold or silver. * Associated finds: any object of any material found in the same place as (or which had previously been together with) another object which is deemed treasure. * Objects substantially made from gold or silver but are less than 300 years old, that have been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovery and whose owners or heirs are unknown. Under English law a landowner has sole title to any archaeological artifacts found on his or her property. Legitimate metal detectorists come to an agreement with the owners of the land they detect on to share any proceeds from treasure sales. Successful cases involving the Treasure Act include that of the Ringlemere gold cup. Non-treasure finds are the remit of the Portable Antiquities Scheme. Terry On 30/09/2014 19:29, Sher Leetooze via wrote: > Edna: > In the UK the person who finds the "trove" owns it, however, it has to be > reported to the authorities and registered and all the paper work done > before ownership is final. Then the finder can do what they want with them. > Wish that was so here. In Canada, it all belongs to the government - > anything out of the ground does, no matter whether it is minerals, oil or > treasure troves!!! > Sher > > > At 10:28 AM 30/09/2014 -0400, you wrote: >> Devon treasure hunter discovered 22,000 Roman coins: >> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29399437 >> >> Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? >> >> Edna - sunny Ottawa >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> Internal Virus Database is out of date. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 >> 19:45:00 > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Sher, Not quite true. The Treasure Act 1996 is an Act of Parliament designed to deal with finds of treasure in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. It legally obliges finders of objects which constitute a legally defined term of treasure to report their find to their local coroner within fourteen days. An inquest led by the coroner then determines whether the find constitutes treasure or not. If it is declared to be treasure then the owner must offer the item for sale to a museum at a price set by an independent board of antiquities experts (Treasure Valuation Committee). Only if a museum expresses no interest in the item, or is unable to purchase it, can the owner retain it. 'Treasure' is defined as being: All coins from the same hoard. A hoard is defined as two or more coins, as long as they are at least 300 years old when found. If they contain less than 10% gold or silver there must be at least 10 in the hoard for it to qualify. Two or more prehistoric base metal objects in association with one another Any individual (non-coin) find that is at least 300 years old and contains at least 10% gold or silver. Associated finds: any object of any material found in the same place as (or which had previously been together with) another object which is deemed treasure. Objects substantially made from gold or silver but are less than 300 years old, that have been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovery and whose owners or heirs are unknown. Under English law a landowner has sole title to any archaeological artefacts found on his or her property. Legitimate metal detectorists come to an agreement with the owners of the land they detect on to share any proceeds from treasure sales. Non treasure items are covered by the Portable Antiquities Scheme which encourages metal detectorists to allow archaeologists to examine the objects and to preserve the site for a "dig". Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sher Leetooze via Sent: 30 September 2014 19:29 To: liverpud; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Devon Treasure Trove Edna: In the UK the person who finds the "trove" owns it, however, it has to be reported to the authorities and registered and all the paper work done before ownership is final. Then the finder can do what they want with them. Wish that was so here. In Canada, it all belongs to the government - anything out of the ground does, no matter whether it is minerals, oil or treasure troves!!! Sher At 10:28 AM 30/09/2014 -0400, you wrote: >Devon treasure hunter discovered 22,000 Roman coins: >http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29399437 > >Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? > >Edna - sunny Ottawa >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( >http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can >be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus >Database is out of date. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: >03/25/13 >19:45:00 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi It said in my newspaper that the value of the hoard would be divided equally between the finder and the land owner. I think they were hoping a local museum (Dorchester?) would buy it. Jane Gould (in sunny Whitley Bay) -----Original Message----- From: liverpud via Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:28 PM To: DEVON-L Subject: [DEV] Devon Treasure Trove Devon treasure hunter discovered 22,000 Roman coins: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29399437 Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? Edna - sunny Ottawa ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Could be regarded as treasure trove,who would have to pay the finder and the land owner the market value(equal shares). On 30 September 2014 15:28, liverpud via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Devon treasure hunter discovered 22,000 Roman coins: > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29399437 > > Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:28:11 -0400 liverpud via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello liverpud, >Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? Anything from 5 coins upwards is classed as a hoard and must be notified to (I think) the local Antiquities Scheme Finds Liaison Office. Any hoard belongs to the state. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If a thought came in your head it would die of loneliness I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers
Thanks Elizabeth. Yes there are a lot of Burridges (allowing for a myriad of spellings!) in and around Crediton. I just can't seem to find a baptism for Hugh! Based on his marriage in 1721, he could have been born any time from around 1680 to 1700. In fact the only Hugh Burridges I can find are from his marriage onwards - ie his son, grandson, gt-grandson. This is my current brick wall, if anyone can find a baptism for Hugh I will be ecstatic! I sent this in reply to Elizabeth's answer , but it doesn't seem to have reached the list - should I have "replied to all" Judy --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Edna: In the UK the person who finds the "trove" owns it, however, it has to be reported to the authorities and registered and all the paper work done before ownership is final. Then the finder can do what they want with them. Wish that was so here. In Canada, it all belongs to the government - anything out of the ground does, no matter whether it is minerals, oil or treasure troves!!! Sher At 10:28 AM 30/09/2014 -0400, you wrote: >Devon treasure hunter discovered 22,000 Roman coins: >http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29399437 > >Fascinating article, but who would actually own these coins? > >Edna - sunny Ottawa >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >List archive for Devon can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >Internal Virus Database is out of date. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 >19:45:00
Hi Dave, You say you have extensive information about the Vanstone family. Do either of the branches you researched come from Broadwoodkelly?. I have a Christopher Vanstone (1786 - 1810) and his nephew Christopher Vanstone (bap 1810) both baptised in Broadwoodkelly. It is not a particularly common name so I wondered if there was a family link. Thanks, Ruth On 29 Sep 2014, at 21:18, hopper via wrote: > Hi Richard, > > My Wife grandmother was Mary Ann Vinnicombe born about 1848 in South Molton, she married Christoper Vanstone, 14th. May, 1870, and they had four children then > settling in and around Exeter. We know no more about her! > > Two of us have extensive information about the Vanstone families and we both descend from what appears to be different branches which may be of no interest to you. > > I had a quick look at my aged Vinnicombe file and saw there are 13 in Exeter phone book. There is also Vearncombe and one Vinniecombe. > > We were looking recent for a David Vinnicombe who was supposedly a relative of ours aged u/k. > > Thought this may help! > > Dave. > ======================================== > Message Received: Sep 24 2014, 09:08 AM > From: "Richard Jones via" > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: [DEV] JOHN VINNICOMBE b.1767 in Devon. > > Hallo Martin, > > I thank you very much for your long email of 18 Sept 14 which was extremely helpful and has stopped me in my tracks. I went for a long weekend to Scotland on Friday > morning, hence could not rep[y until I came back. The message I send yesterday (Monday) has bounced back as too large, including your long message to me as point > of reference. Anyhow, my message reflected on the veracity of my non-public tree before getting to John VINNICOMBE b. 1767. I am 100 per cent sure that I have the > correct records for my grandmother Alice Maud VINNICOMBE b.Payhembury 1876 and great grandfather Richard VINNICOMBE b. Bradninch 1842. My source is > unambiguous documentation and family memory. > > Richard’s father, according to his BC, was a Simon VINNICOMBE. I am reasonably happy that I have the right Simon who married Sarah PLEASE b. Kentisbeare, and > who fits in with the subsequent censuses and death, i.e.. my gt grandfather’s mother is documented as Sarah VINNICOMBE who died in Plymtree in 1891. The > VINNICOMBE/PLEASE marriage took place in Broadhembury on 21 Jan 1830. So far, I have been unable to identify another Simon who foots the bill. Possible > contestants for Simon with the double Plymtree baptism are: Simon V. bp 1 Jun 1794 to Simon and Elizabeth in slightly further away Whimple and bp 1 May 1803 to > Simon and Ann in Plympton Erl? However, they would have to have married a Sarah to fit in with the following generation. > > As far as the 1841 census is concerned, I had taken the 45 yr. old John, brother of Simon, to be the one born on 01 Oct 1794 in Plymtree to John and Elizabeth (Vesey) > and who was to marry Lydia Selway, the eventual informant of John’s 1842 death. . I saw no need to look in other parishes as this John fitted well. I have the Book of > Plymtree which on page 145 confirms, rightly or wrongly, that the occupants of Perhams Green Cottage were Simon and John and their families, including their father > John and younger brother Robert. Of the two other Cullompton baptisms that you mention, I prefer the Plymtree one in 1794 just mentioned for John, but feel that the > Robart one in 1800 in Cullompton is a distinct possibility of being John’s b. abt 1767’s son. So in the 1841 census John was born 1794 in Plymtree and Robert could > well have been born in 1800 in Cullompton. These two birth dates are not too close. I think that the Cullompton John born 1797 was not the John who appeared in the > 1841 census and promptly died thereafter because the age at death was 75, thereby fitting a 1767 birth. > > I think that I have answered a part of your Boolean question in that I feel that I am quite probably descended John VINNICOMBE who married Elizabeth VESEY and > that there is only one John VINNICOMBE – not a young and an old one. The fact that I believe that two JOHN’S are not involved, precludes the possibility of Simon and > John/Robert having different fathers, so that the Book of Plymtree may well be right. Whilst there are still checks to be made, I am quietly optimistic that Simon’s > b.Plymtree 1797 father is John b. 1767 in Devon. > > I would be interest to hear where you contest my thinking and will revert to more of your email at a later stage. I cannot thank you enough for your detailed analysis, > which is highly appreciated. These thanks go also to all Listers who have joined in this thread. I apologize to anyone who thought that they should have received a fairer > hearing from me. Y am not including your initial message as, due to its length, it might block the acceptance of this message. > > Best Wishes, Richard from Brighton. > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Martin, Thank you, I have all these from my PR's, but I just needed to be sure he did not marry this Elizabeth elsewhere. I did find a Elizabeth ROGERS buried the same year in Chivelstone which makes me think she is the same as the one who had Banns with William. So intriguing, wondering if I have the correct two. Regards and thanks so much for looking. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin Beavis via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:37 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Elizabeth ROGERS of Chivelstone and William HATHERLING[orHATHERLY] > Hi Bev - No CD here but FMP has the Banns you have already seen, > indicating > both parties are widowed, but no subsequent marriage, not Chivelstone nor > Stokenham, nor anywhere else in Devon that FMP have digitized yet. > But FMP does have several burials of William HATHERLEY from 1779 onwards > including one at Stokenham on 9 May 1780. > Regards - Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: B. Edmonds via > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:02 AM > To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Elizabeth ROGERS of Chivelstone and William HATHERLING > [orHATHERLY] > > I am wondering if anyone has a ROGERS marriage printout from DFHS and > could > see if there is a Marriage between a Elizabeth ROGERS, and William > HATHERLING in 1774. I have just about worn my CD Rom drive out putting > CD's > in/out trying to find a marriage. I have a feeling his name could bet > HATHERLY and that they did not marry at all, but there is a Banns Notice > in > Stokenham for them. > --------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message