Brian Tandell: I apologize for my mistake. Helen

About 1953, I spent a year in England and my favourite dessert was Devon Clotted Cream with jello. Of course I came back to Canada with a few extra pounds but I did enjoy every bite of that cream. Thanks for the reminder of its existence. Helen From: Carol Collins Hi: I've had a chance to watch the series online over the past few weeks at Knowledge Network in Canada, and quite enjoyed it. The section about the making of Devon clotted cream was very interesting. If anyone's interested, it's now available on DVD through the BBC:

John I went through this with someone from Tavistock who died in the 1860s. The only luck I had was the newspapers. I got a wonderful account of the event. My gggg grandmother drowned and thus the inquest. Regards.. Marj Quoting John H Lunceford via <devon@rootsweb.com>: > I would like to get the information from the inquest of John Husson > who dies 24 Oct 1859 at Ford, Townstal, Dartmouth, aged 69. He fell > down the stairs. > > John was a sawyer. > > I am hoping it might help answer a couple of questions I have on him > and the Husson family. > > Several years ago as I remember, the November1859 issue of the > Dartmouth Chronicle was missing that would have had the corner's > inquest. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > THANK YOU > > John Lunceford > Terre Haute, Indiana > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

After a visit to the Totnes Study Centre recently (linked to the ‘Brick Wall’ thread), I would just like to highlight this wonderful facility. If anyone is researching and/or stuck with their family history I can highly recommend a visit. The two ladies at the Centre could not have been more helpful and kind. They are also extremely knowledgeable, both of family history research and of the Totnes and surrounding areas. They have a wide range of sources available to search as well as access to the PRs on microfiche and Ancestry/FMP, and a well stocked local history/document library. They also put me right on an Ancestor error.. how had I not noticed that a marriage I had could not be right as the bride would have been 14 and anyway she died! Lesson learnt.. check deaths as well as baptisms and double check possibilities with similar dates/names. We’re very lucky in the South West .. or I am.. Devon RO and Totnes is practically on my doorstep! Jane

Hi All.. Martin, Bev, Joy, Paul..et al.. A belated thank you for all your help and suggestions. Thanks to your advice and a visit to the Totnes Study centre and Devon RO I have sorted out quite a few issues around this subject. Martin, you’re quite right about Staverton and the likelihood of other Churches being used. A visit to the Village has made me realise how scattered the farms are and, as you say, some are nearer to Ashburton. The ladies at the Totnes centre confirmed that any and all Parish Churches might be used. Also, in the Church of St. Paul I learnt that after the death of the Vicar in 1730 the following 3 Vicars were Pluralists and absentees, employing curates. It is more than possible that people would choose to go elsewhere to someone they knew. I’ve got similar ‘long walk’ stories from my own family. Still, it’s too easy to look back in history through a narrow tunnel and forget that people did in fact move about! Thank you for your reading suggestions. I am on the track of quite a few options now. Thanks Bev for your advice about the fiches. I’m thinking about it. It would be great but I don’t think it could replace FMP &/or Ancestry. It would have to be as well as, and that’s quite an expense. At the moment, I’m lucky to have Devon RO nearby so I’m making use of it. Wouldn’t it be great if the whole lot was digitised and made available! I’ve also learnt a lesson. Don’t expect an answer unless you have absolutely ALL the information available. I had a note to look up some Wills but hadn’t done it. Now I have and the information in them added to Witnesses found on Banns/Baptisms records etc has allowed me to have an overview of the family that I didn’t have before, and also confirmed the Ashburton marriage. So basically, I hadn’t tried hard enough! Sounds like my school report. Regards Jane On 17 Oct 2014, at 00:02, Martin Beavis via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Jane > > Joy and Paul seem to have nailed the social and occupational mobility > contributing to inter-parish marriages. The apprenticeship and settlement > examination records on A2A illustrate the movements of workers from parishes > of birth and apprenticeship to those where they subsequently found > employment and married. And that must also account for the frequency of > putative fathers from other parishes being named in bastardy bonds. > > You said "as far away [from Staverton] as Ashburton" but looking at the > parish maps on Genuki, we see that Staverton is a large parish with the > village of Staverton in the far south but its northern hamlets are much > closer to the market town of Ashburton, so it seems quite reasonable for > different branches of an extended family to have worshipped and married in > whichever church, Staverton or Ashburton, was most convenient and favoured > by the communities in which they lived and worked. I have read recently > that something similar occurred in outlying parts of Colyton parish. So > that may answer your question, though an Ashburton bride seems the most > likely explanation. > > I also recall reading, possibly on a Cornish site, that rectors with > responsibility for smaller adjacent parishes often recorded all BMD events > in the registers of their main parish, no matter in which church they > actually occurred, with the advice to always check adjoining parishes in > such rural areas - as we have seen recently on this list - though that > probably does not apply to Ashburton and Staverton. > > You asked about reading material for local economic/social history. There's > a lot on GENUKI Devon but for very local interest, albeit more Ashburton > than Staverton, see > * Worthy: Ashburton and its Neighbourhood (1875) - has a chapter on > Staverton > https://archive.org/details/ashburtonitsneig00wortuoft > * Baring-Gould: Book of the West, vol 1, Devon (1900) - quite a lot about > the woolen trade in Ashburton > https://archive.org/stream/bookofwestbeingi00bari#page/248/mode/2up > * http://www.oldashburton.co.uk/ > > Fnally, anecdotally, about commuting miles on foot - in his youth my > carpenter grandfather walked from Newton Abbot to Widecombe-in-the-Moor > ("All along, down along, out along lea" or nowadays 12 miles on Google maps) > where he was employed on repairs to the church, lodged there during the > week, and walked home at weekends. At that time he was involved with the > Plymouth Brethren whose elders, having previously chastised him for drinking > lemonade in a public house, then denounced him for working on the Sabbath by > virtue of walking back to his workplace in Widecombe. Perhaps they were > narked that he was working on a CofE church. He told them to stuff it and > had no further truck with any organised religion. Later in life, as a > self-employed builder, he again worked on Widecombe church, before > "retiring" to work in a cyder factory. > > Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Lucas via > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:39 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Resolving Brick Walls > > The recent ‘brick wall’ thread has prompted me to think a bit further > outside the box when looking at early records. > > Can anyone help fill in some background concerning the process of recording > BMDs? I’m looking at people born mainly in Staverton, Devon. Usually BMD was > recorded at Staverton St. Paul. However, I’m wondering if other churches > might sometimes have been used? I’ve found at least one marriage as far away > as Ashburton which seems right, but why Ashburton? That marriage was a > Yeoman farmer from Staverton and names of both families seem to be > incorporated in to their childrens names. Circumstantial I know, but maybe > the families knew each other. > > Also, people working the land (as opposed to owning it) would have had to > travel presumably if work wasn’t available locally. > > I’m looking at very early records around the start of recording. I know > people didn’t travel as far, but would an Ashburton from Staverton marriage > be possible? What about other Parishes close by? Would baptisms etc > sometimes take place elsewhere, e.g. Broadhempston, Buckfastleigh. > > I’m mainly using online sources (FMP & Ancestry), & Devon Record Office. > Does anyone know if all the old Registers have been transcribed and put > online or if there are still some to go? I sometimes find a single very > early (pre 1600) record. But it makes me wonder…. If there’s one, why not > more? Possibly the early Staverton registers were in a bad state of > preservation, but I don’t know. > > There are relatively few records between say 1640-1660. I assume that was > the Civil War influence. > > The more I find out the more I realise I need to know! If anyone can point > me to some specific reading material for local economic/social history I’d > appreciate it. > > Regards > Jane > Jane Lucas > Devon > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Adrian, I was pleasantly surprised at how complete the Black Torrington PRs seem to be on FindMyPast. The entry appears to me as" "John Paige & Marie Corkram married the xxvj of January 1606." The FMP transcription also gives the bridegroom's name as John PAIGE. Incidentally, I believe the date is most likely 1606/07, but it is hard to tell because the entries at least in this period are not strictly chronological but year by year and then by alphabetical by Christian name. This is the only entry for 1606 or 1606/07. David Langenberg Newark, Delaware, USA On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:21 AM, Adrian via wrote: > Maria CORKERAM was married in Black Torrington on 26 January 1606. > > I have been unable to decipher the name of her husband in the parish > register. The entry appears on the page for Js that covers the period of > 1547 to 1608. > > Can anyone help, please? > > Adrian > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to get the information from the inquest of John Husson who dies 24 Oct 1859 at Ford, Townstal, Dartmouth, aged 69. He fell down the stairs. John was a sawyer. I am hoping it might help answer a couple of questions I have on him and the Husson family. Several years ago as I remember, the November1859 issue of the Dartmouth Chronicle was missing that would have had the corner's inquest. Any help would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU John Lunceford Terre Haute, Indiana

Maria CORKERAM was married in Black Torrington on 26 January 1606. I have been unable to decipher the name of her husband in the parish register. The entry appears on the page for Js that covers the period of 1547 to 1608. Can anyone help, please? Adrian

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Dear friends, I already have been sent a PDF of the entire document  This list is just fantastic! Thanks Mike and Edna for your advice too. Cheers,  Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Waymouth via" To: "Rootsweb DEVON list" Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:38:50 +1100 Subject: [DEV] WAYMOUTH online book reference Hi All, I wonder if anyone has access to this book.  It may be available online in the US, but possibly nowhere else due to inexplicable copyright restrictions.  Frequently Google Books restricts access to its digital books to US only, which is very frustrating.  It might even be available in a library somewhere. _Life and times of General Sir Edward Cecil, viscount Wimbledon, colonel of an English regiment in the Dutch service, 1605-1631, and one of His Majesty's most honourable Privy council, 1626-1638, Volume 1_ There are 8 or 9 references to the name WAYMOUTH in the book on the Hathi Trust site but I can't actually view the book to see what they're about.  Note that it's Volume 2 that has these references. I'd be very grateful if someone could help. Regards, Robyn ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.acuk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I wonder if anyone has access to this book.  It may be available online in the US, but possibly nowhere else due to inexplicable copyright restrictions.  Frequently Google Books restricts access to its digital books to US only, which is very frustrating.  It might even be available in a library somewhere. _Life and times of General Sir Edward Cecil, viscount Wimbledon, colonel of an English regiment in the Dutch service, 1605-1631, and one of His Majesty's most honourable Privy council, 1626-1638, Volume 1_ There are 8 or 9 references to the name WAYMOUTH in the book on the Hathi Trust site but I can't actually view the book to see what they're about.  Note that it's Volume 2 that has these references. I'd be very grateful if someone could help. Regards, Robyn

Hello Jane Joy and Paul seem to have nailed the social and occupational mobility contributing to inter-parish marriages. The apprenticeship and settlement examination records on A2A illustrate the movements of workers from parishes of birth and apprenticeship to those where they subsequently found employment and married. And that must also account for the frequency of putative fathers from other parishes being named in bastardy bonds. You said "as far away [from Staverton] as Ashburton" but looking at the parish maps on Genuki, we see that Staverton is a large parish with the village of Staverton in the far south but its northern hamlets are much closer to the market town of Ashburton, so it seems quite reasonable for different branches of an extended family to have worshipped and married in whichever church, Staverton or Ashburton, was most convenient and favoured by the communities in which they lived and worked. I have read recently that something similar occurred in outlying parts of Colyton parish. So that may answer your question, though an Ashburton bride seems the most likely explanation. I also recall reading, possibly on a Cornish site, that rectors with responsibility for smaller adjacent parishes often recorded all BMD events in the registers of their main parish, no matter in which church they actually occurred, with the advice to always check adjoining parishes in such rural areas - as we have seen recently on this list - though that probably does not apply to Ashburton and Staverton. You asked about reading material for local economic/social history. There's a lot on GENUKI Devon but for very local interest, albeit more Ashburton than Staverton, see * Worthy: Ashburton and its Neighbourhood (1875) - has a chapter on Staverton https://archive.org/details/ashburtonitsneig00wortuoft * Baring-Gould: Book of the West, vol 1, Devon (1900) - quite a lot about the woolen trade in Ashburton https://archive.org/stream/bookofwestbeingi00bari#page/248/mode/2up * http://www.oldashburton.co.uk/ Fnally, anecdotally, about commuting miles on foot - in his youth my carpenter grandfather walked from Newton Abbot to Widecombe-in-the-Moor ("All along, down along, out along lea" or nowadays 12 miles on Google maps) where he was employed on repairs to the church, lodged there during the week, and walked home at weekends. At that time he was involved with the Plymouth Brethren whose elders, having previously chastised him for drinking lemonade in a public house, then denounced him for working on the Sabbath by virtue of walking back to his workplace in Widecombe. Perhaps they were narked that he was working on a CofE church. He told them to stuff it and had no further truck with any organised religion. Later in life, as a self-employed builder, he again worked on Widecombe church, before "retiring" to work in a cyder factory. Martin -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lucas via Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:39 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Resolving Brick Walls The recent ‘brick wall’ thread has prompted me to think a bit further outside the box when looking at early records. Can anyone help fill in some background concerning the process of recording BMDs? I’m looking at people born mainly in Staverton, Devon. Usually BMD was recorded at Staverton St. Paul. However, I’m wondering if other churches might sometimes have been used? I’ve found at least one marriage as far away as Ashburton which seems right, but why Ashburton? That marriage was a Yeoman farmer from Staverton and names of both families seem to be incorporated in to their childrens names. Circumstantial I know, but maybe the families knew each other. Also, people working the land (as opposed to owning it) would have had to travel presumably if work wasn’t available locally. I’m looking at very early records around the start of recording. I know people didn’t travel as far, but would an Ashburton from Staverton marriage be possible? What about other Parishes close by? Would baptisms etc sometimes take place elsewhere, e.g. Broadhempston, Buckfastleigh. I’m mainly using online sources (FMP & Ancestry), & Devon Record Office. Does anyone know if all the old Registers have been transcribed and put online or if there are still some to go? I sometimes find a single very early (pre 1600) record. But it makes me wonder…. If there’s one, why not more? Possibly the early Staverton registers were in a bad state of preservation, but I don’t know. There are relatively few records between say 1640-1660. I assume that was the Civil War influence. The more I find out the more I realise I need to know! If anyone can point me to some specific reading material for local economic/social history I’d appreciate it. Regards Jane Jane Lucas Devon ------------------------------------------

Hi Robyn, Volume 2 is available at https://archive.org/details/lifetimesofgener02daltuoft. Best regards Mike Rendle Sent from my iPad > On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:46, Robyn Waymouth via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > _Life and times of General Sir Edward Cecil, viscount Wimbledon, > colonel of an English regiment in the Dutch service, 1605-1631, and > one of His Majesty's most honourable Privy council, 1626-1638, Volume > 1_ > > There are 8 or 9 references to the name WAYMOUTH in the book on the > Hathi Trust site but I can't actually view the book to see what > they're about. Note that it's Volume 2 that has these references.

Can you access Internet Archive? https://archive.org/details/lifetimesofgener02daltiala -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robyn Waymouth via Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:39 PM To: Rootsweb DEVON list Subject: [DEV] WAYMOUTH online book reference Hi All, I wonder if anyone has access to this book.  It may be available online in the US, but possibly nowhere else due to inexplicable copyright restrictions.  Frequently Google Books restricts access to its digital books to US only, which is very frustrating.  It might even be available in a library somewhere. _Life and times of General Sir Edward Cecil, viscount Wimbledon, colonel of an English regiment in the Dutch service, 1605-1631, and one of His Majesty's most honourable Privy council, 1626-1638, Volume 1_ There are 8 or 9 references to the name WAYMOUTH in the book on the Hathi Trust site but I can't actually view the book to see what they're about.  Note that it's Volume 2 that has these references. I'd be very grateful if someone could help. Regards, Robyn ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Martin Thanks for your response. I did know about the bastardy order! One of many skeletons in our family's closets. I got a copy of the order and it could possibly be Henry Gould who married Charity, or it could have been Henry Gould who was married to Ann (I can't find any record of their marriage) who were also hving children in Bishops Tawton around this time and who I suspect is the Henry born in 1769. Very interesting about the Australian connection - when I've got some spare time I must investigate further. Good hunting. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Martin Beavis via Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:35 AM To: Paul Hockie ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry GOULD b1758 ?Bishops Tawton Hi Jane It sounds like you do not know the parents of your Henry GOULD who married Charity BRYANT, presumably not identified in FMP's transcription of that marriage. Nor are there any early Bishops Tawton baptisms on FMP as yet but I found a few elsewhere on FamilySearch (also on Ancestry) but made no link to Bishops Tawton so I'll relegate that data to the end of this message. I went looking for apprentices on A2A and discovered a GOULD family skeleton: Bishops Tawton Parish, North Devon Record Office 1469A/PO 148/7 1804 Maintenance Order - Mary MANLEY,singlewoman of Bishops Tawton, mother - Henry GOULD,carpenter of Bishops Tawton,father http://apps.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=821-1469a&cid=-1#-1 Who was the carpenter father Henry? Was he perhaps your Henry born ca 1758, or perhaps the Henry baptised in 1769, and/or perhaps already a married man? FamilySearch: England Births and Christenings Name: Henry Gould MANLY Gender: Male Christening Date: 08 Jul 1804 Christening Place: BISHOPS TAWTON,DEVON,ENGLAND Mother's Name: Mary Manly Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05034-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 916815 I have not found anything more about the son. But I did google "Henry Gould Manley" and found a Manl[e]y Henry Gould born 1862 in Australia, so perhaps he emigrated, changed his name to GOULD, and named his son Manley after his mother? All very speculative. The same Bishops Tawton A2A record includes 1755 Willm. Snow apprenticed to Thos.Gould 1810 Elizabeth Gould,age 8,daughter of Henry and Ann Gould apprenticed to Fras.Pilcher for Smythians 1811 Elizabeth Gould,age 9,daughter of Henry and Ann Gould apprenticed to Robt.Edger Tyte,blacksmith So who was this Henry, married to Ann, probably ca 1800? And a 9-year-old female blacksmith? And how was Thomas GOULD related to Abraham and Henry? I've just seen Paul's response - looks very cogent - possibly another skeleton in the family closet! I was going to ask if you knew of any carpenters in the family but did a quick google and found your previous Devon-L thread from 2004 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DEVON/2004-07/1089653693 which answers two of Paul's questions and confirms that Henry (husband of Charity) was indeed a carpenter (and so perhaps the father of Mary Manley's base child). And it is Henry's age 16 at his confirmation in mid-1773 that points to his birth ca 1756/57. And, no, I've not gone looking into any of the several public trees - they are mostly indexed as Henry GOULD, born 1869, married 1782 = age 13. Regards - Martin APPENDIX - Finally, here are the copied and pasted Exeter St Thomas and Broad Clyst data, for which I found no link to Bishops Tawton. Is it possible that your Henry, born ca 1758, might be the son bapt 1757 of this Robert and Elizabeth? England Marriages, 1538-1973 Name: Robert Gould Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Adams Event Date: 03 Dec 1749 Event Place: St. Thomas The Apostle'S, Exter, Devon, England Marital Status: Unknown Spouse's Marital Status: Unknown Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01494-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 916844 , Reference ID: yr 1743-1773 p 4 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05053-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 916843, 916844 Next an 8-year gap with no baptisms, no live births? England Births and Christenings Name: Henry Gould ??????????????????? Christening Date: 21 Apr 1757 Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS THE APOSTLE,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND Father's Name: Robert Gould Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05053-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 916843, 916844 And another big gap England Births and Christenings Name: Mary Gould Christening Date: 04 Dec 1767 Christening Place: RAME BY PLYMOUTH,CORNWALL,ENGLAND Father's Name: Robert Gould Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P02266-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 90265 England Births and Christenings Name: Thomas Gould Christening Date: 11 Nov 1770 Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS THE APOSTLE,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND Father's Name: Robert Gould Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05053-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 916843, 916844 England Births and Christenings Name: Elizabeth Gould Christening Date: 29 Sep 1774 Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS THE APOSTLE,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND Father's Name: Robert Gould Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05053-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 916843, 916844 But I've not found anything to link that Robert and Elizabeth with Bishops Tawton. There is another possible Henry England Births and Christenings Name: Henry Gould Christening Date: 01 Jun 1755 Christening Place: BROAD CLYST,DEVON,ENGLAND Father's Name: Nicholas Gould Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05000-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 916761, 916762 England Deaths and Burials Henry Gould Burial Date: 14 May 1837 Burial Place: St. Thomas, Devon, England Death Place: Devon, England Age: 82 Birth Date: 1755 Marital Status: Unknown Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03186-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 916844 , Reference ID: 28994 P49 ------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:07 PM To: 'janegould' ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry GOULD b1758 ?Bishops Tawton Jane, I am interested to know where you found the confirmation record and have you seen the original. Similarly have you seen the original of Henry b 1769 baptism entry and Abraham / Charity marriage in 1758. These will hold clues as to transcription errors and may hold additional information. Familysearch has indexed the parish of Bishops Tawton and Abraham and Charity are the only Gould family producing children in 1750-1770. Henry Goulds on Familysearch born around 1758 are one born 1755 in Broad Clyst and one born 1757 St Thomas Exeter neither of which are handy for Bishops Tawton. There is, however an Abraham Gould born in Broad Clyst at the right time and who was possibly married previously. Possibilities may be that Henry b 1757/8 son of Abraham/Charity m 1758 may have been born illegitimate and the later baptism was to christen him as a Gould or that Henry was the son of a previous marriage who was, in effect, being adopted to give him residential rights in Bishops Tawton. If you want to find the neighbouring parishes down load Parloc http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html. There is an LDS Family History Centre in Newcastle which can order microfilms from their collection, many of which are not online. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of janegould via Sent: 15 October 2014 08:42 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Henry GOULD b1758 ?Bishops Tawton Good morning Henry Gould is my brick wall. He was born in about 1758, was confirmed in Bishops Tawton aged 16 in 1773, and married Charity Briant/Bryant in Bishops Tawton in 1782. To have been confirmed he must have been baptised somewhere, but I cannot find a suitable baptism for him. There is a Henry Gould baptised in 1769 in Bishops Tawton who was the son of Abraham and Charity Gould but all their other children seem to have been baptised as infants. Does anyone know which of the surrounding parish registers are yet to be transcribed as he doesn't appear on Ancestry or FMP. Fingers crossed.... Jane Gould in Whitley Bay. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Rogers via Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:12 AM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Marriages in different parishes On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:35:19 +0000 Carol Collins via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Carol, >Hi: I have one case where the banns were called in the bride's parish, Banns were/are called in two parishes; The bride's and the groom's. Quite often, this isn't apparent because bride and groom come from the same parish. Another possibility being that the banns from one of the parishes are either no longer extant, or not available to view online. >but the marriage happened in the groom's parish and he used a family >alias as his middle name when he got married. Regards, Carol Adding, removing or changing name isn't too uncommon either. Makes for interesting(1) research. (1) By that, I mean annoyingly tricky at times. :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Your father was a megalomaniac, you've got an insane brother Pure Mania - The Vibrators ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Archive Books -- https://archive.org/details/lifetimesofgener01daltuoft (Vol 1) https://archive.org/stream/lifetimesofgener02daltuoft#page/n0/mode/2up (Vol 2) Edna - Ottawa

Give Archive Books a try -- https://archive.org/details/lifetimesofgener01daltuoft Cheers, Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Waymouth via Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:38 PM To: Rootsweb DEVON list Subject: [DEV] WAYMOUTH online book reference Hi All, I wonder if anyone has access to this book. It may be available online in the US, but possibly nowhere else due to inexplicable copyright restrictions. Frequently Google Books restricts access to its digital books to US only, which is very frustrating. It might even be available in a library somewhere. _Life and times of General Sir Edward Cecil, viscount Wimbledon, colonel of an English regiment in the Dutch service, 1605-1631, and one of His Majesty's most honourable Privy council, 1626-1638, Volume 1_ There are 8 or 9 references to the name WAYMOUTH in the book on the Hathi Trust site but I can't actually view the book to see what they're about. Note that it's Volume 2 that has these references. I'd be very grateful if someone could help. Regards, Robyn ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please reply to Chris and NOT me. Terry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Torquay research Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:21:45 +0100 From: Chris <chadwilson@live.co.uk> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> I want to find out about the "W J Mills Torquay Benevolent Fund" which was disbanded in 2006. Better still would be to make contact with someone who was involved, such as any of the trustees. I have a family connection, so any help is much appreciated. */Chris Wilson/* /Tel: 07595-596488/

Hi: Another source that I'd like to mention when searching other parishes for ancestors is settlement examinations and certificates. http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonMisc/Settlement.html http://www.genguide.co.uk/source/settlement-certificatesexaminations-and-removal-orders-parish-amp-poor-law/173/ http://www.witheridge-historical-archive.com/poor-3.htm Regards, Carol Collins

I have a Joseph WILLS Toms born in Christow 1 Dec 1862. I wonder if there is any connection? Daphne > ; >> >> If you can ever connect to the WILLS family of Devon (they may already >> be connected??), please get in touch. I have a great deal of Devon >> WILLS data thanks to Bill WILLS. >> >> Regards >> >> Len Heyward > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >