All, Perhaps someone from Devon can answer my query definitively. I have been working extensively recently with the Bratton Clovelly parish registers on FindMyPast. I have been pronouncing Clovelly as "Clo-VEL-ly," with the accent on the second syllable. Is that correct? Or is it "CLO-vel-ly," with the accent on the first syllable, or even some other pronunciation, such as perhaps "CLOVE-ly"? I checked with one of the maintainers of the wonderful Bratton Clovelly One-Place Study website (http://brattonclovellyops.com/wp/) and she informs me "I believe that the pronunciation is your first option, Clo-VEL-ly. I'm sure I asked the residents at some point!" I'd really like a second opinion. Thanks in advance. David Langenberg Newark, Delaware, USA

Thank you Peter, much appreciated. Regards Bev in Oz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 5:07 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Eliza CAWSEY c 1835 > Bev, > > Eliza CAWSEY, 19 May 1833, Bideford, parents Lewis & Mary Anne, occupation > Mason, by Cha' Burne - Off'g Minister > > HTH > Peter > > > Morning all, > Please, I am looking for the baptism date of Eliza CAWSEY d/o Lewis who > was > born in around Bideford c 1834. > Thanking you. > Regards > Bev in Oz > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Not sure if anyone replied. Familysearch has 31 Lombard Or Lumbert in Axminster between 1600 and 1800 . Some are duplicates including: Matthew Lumbert England Marriages, 1538-1973 marriage: 26 February 1764 Axminster,Devon,England spouse: Betty Morey Or Mooring Matthew Lombard Or Lumbert England Marriages, 1538-1973 marriage: 26 February 1764 Axminster,Devon,England spouse: Betty Morring Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cliviger502 via Sent: 09 November 2014 14:33 To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] LUMBARD/LUMBERT pre 1800 Seeking information on Mathew LUMBERT/LUMBARD around the Axminster area pre 1800 Thanks Philip ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone on the list visit North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria and could look at a 1938 will for me please?. Terry North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See more at: http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See more at: http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See more at: http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf

Chris I suspect that that W Ellis included on the Stoodleigh War Memorial and William Ellis on Butterleigh's were different casualties. Here is the product of some research carried out by a parishioner at Butterleigh describing that William: William Ellis was born at Upexe in 1893. His father, also William was born in Butterleigh and when William junior was 8 his father is shown as being a shepherd and the family were living at Broadleigh Cottage, Bickleigh. In 1911 William junior had left home and was working as a cattleman for a farmer called Sylvanus Manfield of Wood Barton, Kentisbeare. He enlisted at Exeter into the 8th Service Battalion of the Devonshire Regiment probably in August 1914, and after training landed in France in July 1915, aged 22. He was killed in action on the first day of the Battle of Loos, 25 September 1915. It is probable that he was killed by gas poisoning from our own chlorine gas that drifted back over the Devonshire's positions. His sister Bessie is buried in Butterleigh churchyard just outside the East wall, next to the path. It is interesting that W Ellis was not included in the names from Stoodleigh that were advised to the Lord Lieutenant's Office by Stoodleigh Parish Council for inclusion in the County Roll of Honour, and transcribed by the Friends of Devon's Archives on their website (see http://www.foda.org.uk/Devon%20Roll%20of%20Honour/ParishList.aspx). Those that sent the names were often a separate group from that set up in a parish to decide on which names were to be included on a war memorial, which accounts for variations often found in the two records. Graham Parnell (Silverton)

I think one thing people are missing here is the issue of "daughter churches" where in a large parish a "chapel of ease" was built in another part of the parish. A good example is Princetown, where the Parish Church at Lydford was a considerable distance from other parts of the parish- almost too far, especially in winter, for people to get there. It happened in the growing towns as well, in Torquay, Cockington was, since Monastic times, a daughter church to St Saviours at Tor, only becoming a parish in its' own right in 1881.By 1884 the little parish church at Cockington was struggling to cope with the ever increasing population of Cockington and Chelston, so it was decided to erect a temporary church as a chapel of Ease on a piece of land in Solsbro Road. This building was known as the iron church and cost over £300 to erect. It was opened on 27th November 1884. This temporary building coped until Mr Mallock of Cockington gave a piece of land and on 18th April 1895 Mrs Mallock laid the foundation stone of St Matthews church.This new church was and still is a chapel of ease to Cockington. On July 1st 1896 the nave was opened and dedicated. The completed building was dedicated by the Bishop of Exeter on 1st January 1904. The Cockington registers include notes in the margins to say event took place at St Matthews or elsewhere. Baptised:- 22 October 1882 Hilda Ortance PITTMAN child of:- Harry James & Maria Eliza of:- Chelston Cross , fathers occupation:- Butler notes:- bapt in Tor Church, Cockington being closed for repair. Also entered in Tor register Church:- Cockington Baptised:- 05 December 1884 Edith Carless ATTWOOD child of:- Lewellin Carless Foulker & Rachel Edith of:- Wandsworth London , fathers occupation:- gentleman notes:- 1st baptism in temp church of St Matthews Church:- Cockington Terry On 10/11/2014 11:36, Marion Giles via wrote: > > All these thing make family history interesting. > > > I thought at first one church could have been C of E and the other nonconformist but soon ruled that out, probably the second baptism in that case was usually some years later. > I think several years ago I came across some Princetown Records also added in Lydford register but that did not come to mind. > I have just checked this as Find my Past is still available free this morning and found that early Princetown baptisms, the ones I looked at were from the 1820s and up to 1840s they were recorded in Lydford too. > I thought this may be of interest to someone else. > > It is good to have people to turn to for help. > > Marion > > > ________________________________ > From: Terry Blackmore > I have come across a couple of baptisms that were performed at Honiton, Devon, but were also recorded in the Parish Registers of another nearby Village. I only know this as the vicar at the time recorded this fact in the right hand margin of the registers. Otherwise there was no way to tell. Made a change from the usual "Baptised, or Married by me", he usually wrote. > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

All these thing make family history interesting. I thought at first one church could have been C of E and the other nonconformist but soon ruled that out, probably the second baptism in that case was usually some years later. I think several years ago I came across some Princetown Records also added in Lydford register but that did not come to mind.  I have just checked this as Find my Past is still available free this morning and found that early Princetown baptisms, the ones I looked at were from the 1820s and up to 1840s they were recorded in Lydford too. I thought this may be of interest to someone else. It is good to have people to turn to for help. Marion ________________________________ From: Terry Blackmore   I have come across a couple of baptisms that were performed at Honiton, Devon, but were also recorded in the Parish Registers of another nearby Village. I only know this as the vicar at the time recorded this fact in the right hand margin of the registers. Otherwise there was no way to tell. Made a change from the usual "Baptised, or Married by me", he usually wrote.

Bev, Eliza CAWSEY, 19 May 1833, Bideford, parents Lewis & Mary Anne, occupation Mason, by Cha' Burne - Off'g Minister HTH Peter Morning all, Please, I am looking for the baptism date of Eliza CAWSEY d/o Lewis who was born in around Bideford c 1834. Thanking you. Regards Bev in Oz

Morning all, Please, I am looking for the baptism date of Eliza CAWSEY d/o Lewis who was born in around Bideford c 1834. Thanking you. Regards Bev in Oz

The parents named on the CWGC site were both buried at Butterleigh and the father, William, was a native of Butterleigh. The following entries appear in the Exeter and Plymouth Gazette: 24 Mar 1939 The funeral took place in Butterleigh Churchyard on Saturday of a former much respected resident, Mr William Ellis, whose death at the age of 79 occurred the previous Friday at The Windmill, Cruwys Morchard where he had been residing with his son-in-law and daughter (Mr and Mrs G Davey). A native of Butterleigh, he was dairy farming at Fillbrook, Butterleigh for some years and later at Furze Farm, Cadeleigh. and 17 Aug 1934 The funeral took place in Butterleigh Churchyard on Monday of Mrs Caroline Ellis, a former parishioner, who was affectionately remembered by many and whose death at the age of 70 occurred at the New Inn, Cadeleigh, after a long illness. The deceased was the wife of Mr William Ellis, a dairy farmer, who lived for a long time in Butterleigh parish. Joy ----Original message---- >From : devon@rootsweb.com Date : 10/11/2014 - 00:06 (GMTST) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [DEV] William ELLIS Hello Chris The William Ellis mentioned in the Tiverton Gazette may be the casualty of that name recorded on the Butterleigh war memorial, and also found on CWGC, as 10633 Private William Ellis of the 8th Battalion, the Devonshire Regiment. Son of William and Caroline Ellis of of Furze Farm, Cheriton Fitzpaine. Born in 1892. Died 25 September 1915 aged 23, recorded on Panel 35 to 37, Loos Memorial. It follows from Brad's contribution that the same casualty may have been nominated by different people for commemoration on different memorials. Stoodleigh, Butterleigh and Cheriton Fitzpaine are not too far apart, so is this Butterleigh man perhaps duplicated on your Stoodleigh memorial? Was he perhaps nominated by maternal grandparents or a grieving sweetheart from your village? You can find William and Caroline Ellis (married for 22 years) with their son William age 9 (born Upexe Rewe) in the 1901 census of Bickleigh, and without William in the 1911 census of Bradninch, but I could not find William Jr elsewhere in 1911. The Saltash-born Florence Ellis of the 1901 Stoodleigh census married Charles Drown at Tiverton RD in Q4 1902 but by 1911 he is an Army Farrier staff sergeant and they are living in Dover. Perhaps your W[illiam] Ellis was her brother who had previously left Cornwall to work on the Stoodleigh House estate and live with his sister. That is a long shot and probably difficult to confirm even if true. If you search CWGC for surname ELLIS, WWI and Additional info = Devon you will get 17 records where the next of kin lived in Devon, and if you search for surname ELLIS, WWI and Devonshire Regiment you will get 17 records, some with, some without next of kin. And finally, there must be some record of his military service somewhere. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message-----

Hello Chris The William Ellis mentioned in the Tiverton Gazette may be the casualty of that name recorded on the Butterleigh war memorial, and also found on CWGC, as 10633 Private William Ellis of the 8th Battalion, the Devonshire Regiment. Son of William and Caroline Ellis of of Furze Farm, Cheriton Fitzpaine. Born in 1892. Died 25 September 1915 aged 23, recorded on Panel 35 to 37, Loos Memorial. It follows from Brad's contribution that the same casualty may have been nominated by different people for commemoration on different memorials. Stoodleigh, Butterleigh and Cheriton Fitzpaine are not too far apart, so is this Butterleigh man perhaps duplicated on your Stoodleigh memorial? Was he perhaps nominated by maternal grandparents or a grieving sweetheart from your village? You can find William and Caroline Ellis (married for 22 years) with their son William age 9 (born Upexe Rewe) in the 1901 census of Bickleigh, and without William in the 1911 census of Bradninch, but I could not find William Jr elsewhere in 1911. The Saltash-born Florence Ellis of the 1901 Stoodleigh census married Charles Drown at Tiverton RD in Q4 1902 but by 1911 he is an Army Farrier staff sergeant and they are living in Dover. Perhaps your W[illiam] Ellis was her brother who had previously left Cornwall to work on the Stoodleigh House estate and live with his sister. That is a long shot and probably difficult to confirm even if true. If you search CWGC for surname ELLIS, WWI and Additional info = Devon you will get 17 records where the next of kin lived in Devon, and if you search for surname ELLIS, WWI and Devonshire Regiment you will get 17 records, some with, some without next of kin. And finally, there must be some record of his military service somewhere. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message----- From: Chris Whitehead via Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 3:10 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] William ELLIS Our village has a memorial panel in the church with the names of “The men of Stoodleigh parish and estate who laid down their lives and of those who served” in World War I. We (the village history group) are mounting an exhibition to tell something of the lives of the seven men who died. , we know who six of them were – local men, with families in the village or district. The seventh is something of a mystery. He appears on the panel as ELLIS W. A report in the local paper (Tiverton Gazette) at the end of 1914 includes William ELLIS on a list of men already serving. The name ELLIS does not appear in the 1911 census for Stoodleigh; In the 1901 census there is one ELLIS – Florence age 21, from Cornwall, a servant at Stoodleigh court. No ELLIS appears on the voters lists/electoral registers of the time. No ELLIS children were admitted to the village school at any relevant time. We have been unable to find any ELLIS entry on the CWGC website whether or not serving in the Devonshire Regiment (All the other deaths wer of men serving with the Devons, and research on those who returned suggests that many of them were in the Devons, with others in the Royal Marines. Does anyone have any thoughts on who ELLIS W. was? Chris ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have come across a couple of baptisms that were performed at Honiton, Devon, but were also recorded in the Parish Registers of another nearby Village. I only know this as the vicar at the time recorded this fact in the right hand margin of the registers. Otherwise there was no way to tell. Made a change from the usual "Baptised, or Married by me", he usually wrote. Terry Blackmore O.P.C., Sheldon, Devon. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Marion Giles via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:47 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Torquay baptism puzzle > Hi, > I have found 2 baptisms on the same day for Doris Elizabeth Rundle Watson, > one says on the actual page "in the Parish of Upton, Torquay" according to > the transcription this is St Mary Upton, the other says on the actual page > "in the Parish of S James, Upton Torquay". > The details are the same and both say performed by E B Payne but the one > in St Mary says E G Payne Off. Min of the District of S James. > > Please could anyone tell me if she was baptised twice on the same day, > once in the small St James church or are there 2 registers for St Mary > church? > > Thanks Marion > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris: Will you be putting a record of your exhibition on the web? If so I’d appreciate being told its URL when it becomes available. If not would you be interested in having it appear in GENUKI/Devon? Cheers Brian On 8 Nov 2014, at 15:10, Chris Whitehead via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Our village has a memorial panel in the church with the names of “The men of Stoodleigh parish and estate who laid down their lives and of those who served” in World War I. We (the village history group) are mounting an exhibition to tell something of the lives of the seven men who died. , we know who six of them were – local men, with families in the village or district. > The seventh is something of a mystery. > He appears on the panel as ELLIS W. > A report in the local paper (Tiverton Gazette) at the end of 1914 includes William ELLIS on a list of men already serving. > The name ELLIS does not appear in the 1911 census for Stoodleigh; > In the 1901 census there is one ELLIS – Florence age 21, from Cornwall, a servant at Stoodleigh court. > No ELLIS appears on the voters lists/electoral registers of the time. > No ELLIS children were admitted to the village school at any relevant time. > We have been unable to find any ELLIS entry on the CWGC website whether or not serving in the Devonshire Regiment (All the other deaths wer of men serving with the Devons, and research on those who returned suggests that many of them were in the Devons, with others in the Royal Marines. > Does anyone have any thoughts on who ELLIS W. was? > Chris > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 FAX = +44 191 208 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

"baptised in the smaller church and the baptisms put in the "mother" church register?" I would say that is the most likely scenario, very unlikely to be baptised twice in the same parish. Terry On 09/11/2014 17:01, Marion Giles via wrote: > Thank you Mike and Terry, > > I hope you will not mind me asking Tim but I just wondered do you think it is possible she was baptised in the smaller church and the baptisms put in the "mother" church register? I ask because they were living in Empire Rd which I think looking at Google maps was a bit closer to St James. > > My daughter in law grew up in Torquay I will forward the website to her the pictures are lovely. > > Thanks again, > Marion > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you Mike and Terry, I hope you will not mind me asking Tim but I just wondered do you think it is possible she was baptised in the smaller church and the baptisms put in the "mother" church register? I ask  because they were living in Empire Rd which I think looking at Google maps was a bit closer to St James. My daughter in law grew up in Torquay I will forward the website to her the pictures are lovely. Thanks again, Marion

Hi Tim, Thank you very much for your help, Marion ________________________________ From: Tim Treeby (Genealogy) via <devon@rootsweb.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 9 November 2014, 15:14 Subject: Re: [DEV] Torquay baptism puzzle I suspect that she was only baptised the once and this took place at St Mary's. But E.G.Payne was the Vicar of St James and also wrote the baptism up in the St James PR. Because if you look at all the baptisms in St Mary's all the one's performed by E.G. Payne are doubled up in the St. James Baptism register. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 09/11/2014 14:47, Marion Giles via wrote: > Hi, > I have found 2 baptisms on the same day for Doris Elizabeth Rundle Watson, one says on the actual page "in the Parish of Upton, Torquay" according to the transcription this is St Mary Upton, the other says on the actual page "in the Parish of S James, Upton Torquay". >  The details are the same and both say performed by E B Payne but the one in St Mary says E G Payne Off. Min of the District of S James. > > Please could anyone tell me if she was baptised twice on the same day, once in the small St James church or are there 2 registers for St Mary church? > > Thanks Marion ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Chris Thanks to FMP over the weekend I was able to see the Deaths at Sea for John Witheridge EDMUNDS. Also on the same page were the names of Samuel Herbert EDMONDS and Walter Thomas EDMONDS. Both these chaps joined Devon Divisions and both are Listed on the Plymouth War memorial, information I had been sitting on for years having found them on the CWGC site. I could never fit them into any Devon families but have since found them. Thanks to the column that says Relative Notified and their Address I have finally figured out who they are. Walter Thomas EDMONDS was born in London 1897 Samuel Herbert Edmonds was born would you believe in 1903 at Ryde, Isle of Wight and he died 29 Feb 1916. This boy was just 13 yrs old, I cannot help but feel so sad that a young boy should loose his life like that. To date I have not found links of these families in Devon, but maybe they are on the Memorial simply because they belonged to Plymouth/Devon Regiments. Regards Bev Edmonds in Oz -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Whitehead via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 1:10 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] William ELLIS > Our village has a memorial panel in the church with the names of “The men > of Stoodleigh parish and estate who laid down their lives and of those who > served” in World War I. We (the village history group) are mounting an > exhibition to tell something of the lives of the seven men who died. , we > know who six of them were – local men, with families in the village or > district. > The seventh is something of a mystery.

I suspect that she was only baptised the once and this took place at St Mary's. But E.G.Payne was the Vicar of St James and also wrote the baptism up in the St James PR. Because if you look at all the baptisms in St Mary's all the one's performed by E.G. Payne are doubled up in the St. James Baptism register. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 09/11/2014 14:47, Marion Giles via wrote: > Hi, > I have found 2 baptisms on the same day for Doris Elizabeth Rundle Watson, one says on the actual page "in the Parish of Upton, Torquay" according to the transcription this is St Mary Upton, the other says on the actual page "in the Parish of S James, Upton Torquay". > The details are the same and both say performed by E B Payne but the one in St Mary says E G Payne Off. Min of the District of S James. > > Please could anyone tell me if she was baptised twice on the same day, once in the small St James church or are there 2 registers for St Mary church? > > Thanks Marion

Pictures of the two churches can be seen here- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/terryleaman/Tiscali/churches%202/Upton.htm Terry On 09/11/2014 14:58, Mike Gurney via wrote: > Hi Marion > > There were two churches in Upton, Torquay. The one you refer to, St James, was linked with St Mary Magdalene at Castle Circus in Torquay ( nothing to do with St Marychurch, another district of Torquay) . St Mary Magdalene was the mother church for St James. > > St James church ( where I was baptised) closed many years ago. > > Mike , in sunny Torquay. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 9 Nov 2014, at 14:47, Marion Giles via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I have found 2 baptisms on the same day for Doris Elizabeth Rundle Watson, one says on the actual page "in the Parish of Upton, Torquay" according to the transcription this is St Mary Upton, the other says on the actual page "in the Parish of S James, Upton Torquay". >> The details are the same and both say performed by E B Payne but the one in St Mary says E G Payne Off. Min of the District of S James. >> >> Please could anyone tell me if she was baptised twice on the same day, once in the small St James church or are there 2 registers for St Mary church? >> >> Thanks Marion >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Marion There were two churches in Upton, Torquay. The one you refer to, St James, was linked with St Mary Magdalene at Castle Circus in Torquay ( nothing to do with St Marychurch, another district of Torquay) . St Mary Magdalene was the mother church for St James. St James church ( where I was baptised) closed many years ago. Mike , in sunny Torquay. Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2014, at 14:47, Marion Giles via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I have found 2 baptisms on the same day for Doris Elizabeth Rundle Watson, one says on the actual page "in the Parish of Upton, Torquay" according to the transcription this is St Mary Upton, the other says on the actual page "in the Parish of S James, Upton Torquay". > The details are the same and both say performed by E B Payne but the one in St Mary says E G Payne Off. Min of the District of S James. > > Please could anyone tell me if she was baptised twice on the same day, once in the small St James church or are there 2 registers for St Mary church? > > Thanks Marion > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message