James, Is Dolish actually Dawlish? A Google search for 'Dolish' throws up Dolish Farm at Honiton. Regards, Andrew Radgick ________________________________ From: James Butler via <devon@rootsweb.com> To: 'Martin Beavis' <beavis.history@yahoo.co.uk>; devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2014, 0:57 Subject: Re: [DEV] Dawlish baptsm Martin, So much to consider :-) The Bible itself was begun by William Henry and his wife Elizabeth Ann, nee Crook, so I'm assuming they knew correct spellings.  But it is entered as Dolish.  Her death certificate says just that she was born in Devonshire, so at least the County appears certain..  And the occupation of her father as a coastguard comes from her death certificate also, in 1875. The ancestry tree you mention is related, and the date of birth comes from information supplied me, I 'm fairly certain. The truth may out one day, or maybe not, all part of the fun. Thanks again, and to everyone else for their suggestions. Cheers James Butler -----Original Message----- From: Martin Beavis [mailto:beavis.history@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2014 10:29 PM To: James Butler; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Dawlish baptsm Hi James - FMP does not appear to have any record of the CROOK-EDWARDS marriage or the 1815 baptism of Elizabeth Ann CROOK that you are looking for, neither in Dawlish nor anywhere else.  There was a CROOK family in Dawlish but on FMP they do not appear in the main parish of Dawlish St Gregory as baptisms before 1811 or as marriages before 1832, so the CROOK family may not have arrived in Dawlish much before 1811, or your CROOK may have lived in Dawlish St Mark for which FMP has no baptisms before 1885 or nearby in Cofton Chapelry for which FMP has a couple of CROOK baptisms in the 1860s. And Elizabeth Ann CROOK may not have been baptised in the parish of her birth.  If you cannot find any other record of her birth or baptism then is it possible that she took the name CROOK from a stepfather William who married a widow EDWARDS or single-mother EDWARDS? Are you sure that "Dolish" really is Dawlish, Devon, England?  Are you talking about a Dawlish Bible or an Irish Bible to which a "foreign" bride was appended?  If Dawlish is correct then that entry was made by someone unfamiliar with the correct spelling.  Alternatively, if "Dolish" is indeed correct then Google finds a Dolish Farmhouse B&B at Luppitt near Honiton. Another possibility is the parish of Dowlish Wake in Somerset. Do you know for sure that William and Ann CROOK emigrated from Devon to Ireland, or might Elizabeth Ann have emigrated without her parents, or might they and their daughter have been native to a "Dolish" in Ireland and never lived in England? While it is possible that Willian CROOK might have been a coastguard in Dawlish around 1815, that might well have been his occupation when his daughter married in Ireland in 1836. Ancestry has several rather questionable public trees but one (Henry Family) that looks a bit more credible is the only one that has the exact same date of birth, 27 Jan 1815, as in your family Bible, but in "Dawlish, Devon, Ireland".  So that tree owner either got that date from your Bible or from another source that you have not yet found.  That tree says William and Elizabeth Ann HENRY married in Donegal in 1836 and emigrated to Australia in 1837. Good hunting. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message----- From: James Butler via Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 5:08 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Dawlish baptsm My great-great- grandmother, Elizabeth ANN Crook,  was born in Dolish (sic) on 27 January 1815, according to the family Bible, which appears to be accurate in all respects so far. Her father was William Crook, a coastguard, her mother was born Ann Edwards (according to the information on her death certificate, as supplied by her husband. I understand the Dawlish registers are in the Devon County Record Office. Are transcripts available?  Or is someone able to check one day if Elizabeth was christened there, or any sibling information?  I have no idea if the parents married there or not, and William later moved to Ireland, as  my great-great-grandparents were married in County Londonderry in 1836. Regards James Butler ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Gordon, I assume you have this marriage certificate to Eliza Ellen NICE in 1852, who does it show as his father? Have you looked on the CD for a Charles John BENNETT c 1823-1825 [they love to change their names around] Have you tried BENNET with one " T ", I am sure you have. What about a death certificate for John CHARLES BENNETT, did he die in NSW, did the father match that of his marriage? Have you tried Newspapers for a marriage/death notice? Did he marry twice? http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "gordonben via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:02 PM To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] JOHN BENNETT > Hello List from very hot Nabiac NSW, > > In the family bible of my GF, his father writes his name as JOHN CHARLES > BENNETT. > > On all the birth certificates of his children it indicates that he was > born > in Plymouth in 1825. > > On the disc of THE THREE TOWNS I can find no JOHN CHARLES BENNETT. > > On the disc I can find 7 baptisms with the name JOHN BENNETT at PLYMOUTH > CHARLES > > And 2 at STOKE DAMEREL. > > Are birth dates in the 1800's recorded? > > I have a copy of a page from NSW Masters & Mates showing a JC BENNETT with > born PLYMOUTH 7 AUGUST 1825. > > I have a copy of a SEAMAN'S TICKETS 1845------1854 showing, > > 470425 > > John Bennett > > Born at Plymouth 7 day Aug 1823 > > County of Devon > > Capacity Seaman Age when ticketed 26 > > First went to sea -APP > > In the year 1836 > > Royal Navy No > > Foreign Service No > > When unemployed > > Resides Plymouth > > Issued at Plymouth 1 NOV 1849 > > > > On the far side of the ticket in the 1853 row it shows that what I think > is > a voyage that he was the COOK > > Stopping at ports 11.85.11 and 64.29.6 > > Below those numbers it shows D maybe deserter maybe discharged, the > date is what strikes me 25/5/1825 > > The only ship in Sydney around that date was the EUPHRATES; a single > female > passenger named ELIZA ANN NICE was aboard. > > JOHN CHARLES BENNETT married an ELIZA ANN NICE 13 June 1852 in Sydney. > > If this is my man how do prove it and trace his parents. > > With many thanks > > Regards > > Gordon Bennett > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4223/8619 - Release Date: 11/24/14 >

Hi Daphne I have a John BENNETT bapt 29 Oct 1835 Plymouth s/o Joseph and Mary [ANDERSON] is this the same John BENNETT that you have? Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Daphne Lees via" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:24 PM To: "gordonben" <gordonben@bigpond.com>; <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] JOHN BENNETT > I have a John Bennett about 1835 -1910 and Elizabeth Hill -1853-1919 > Frederick Sydney Hill Bennett born 6 Sept 1885- Arundel Cres,Plymouth. > Elizabeth Maud Davis -4 Apr 1890, Marriage 3 Feb 1909. > Leonard Sydney Bennett born Jun 1909 - married (my Auntie Daisy Maud > Andrews > 24 Apr 1934 in Paignton,Devon,) > That is as far as I got with the Bennett Family. > > Daphne (Qld.Aus.) >

I have a John Bennett about 1835 -1910 and Elizabeth Hill -1853-1919 Frederick Sydney Hill Bennett born 6 Sept 1885- Arundel Cres,Plymouth. Elizabeth Maud Davis -4 Apr 1890, Marriage 3 Feb 1909. Leonard Sydney Bennett born Jun 1909 - married (my Auntie Daisy Maud Andrews 24 Apr 1934 in Paignton,Devon,) That is as far as I got with the Bennett Family. Daphne (Qld.Aus.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordonben via" <devon@rootsweb.com> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:02 PM Subject: [DEV] JOHN BENNETT > Hello List from very hot Nabiac NSW, > > My name is Gordon Bennett and is still searching for my Great Grand > Father, > but I do think I am getting close. > > But I do need help from the good people from this list; I hope this is the > correct way to seek help. > > In the family bible of my GF, his father writes his name as JOHN CHARLES > BENNETT. > > On all the birth certificates of his children it indicates that he was > born > in Plymouth in 1825. > > On the disc of THE THREE TOWNS I can find no JOHN CHARLES BENNETT. > > On the disc I can find 7 baptisms with the name JOHN BENNETT at PLYMOUTH > CHARLES > > And 2 at STOKE DAMEREL. > > Are birth dates in the 1800's recorded? > > I have a copy of a page from NSW Masters & Mates showing a JC BENNETT with > born PLYMOUTH 7 AUGUST 1825. > > I have a copy of a SEAMAN'S TICKETS 1845------1854 showing, > > 470425 > > John Bennett > > Born at Plymouth 7 day Aug 1823 > > County of Devon > > Capacity Seaman Age when ticketed 26 > > First went to sea -APP > > In the year 1836 > > Royal Navy No > > Foreign Service No > > When unemployed > > Resides Plymouth > > Issued at Plymouth 1 NOV 1849 > > > > On the far side of the ticket in the 1853 row it shows that what I think > is > a voyage that he was the COOK > > Stopping at ports 11.85.11 and 64.29.6 > > Below those numbers it shows D maybe deserter maybe discharged, the > date is what strikes me 25/5/1825 > > The only ship in Sydney around that date was the EUPHRATES; a single > female > passenger named ELIZA ANN NICE was aboard. > > JOHN CHARLES BENNETT married an ELIZA ANN NICE 13 June 1852 in Sydney. > > If this is my man how do prove it and trace his parents. > > With many thanks > > Regards > > Gordon Bennett > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I'm trying to find the parents of Liberty PITT born 1822 in Tiverton. Is anyone able to help please? TIA Diane

Hello List from very hot Nabiac NSW, My name is Gordon Bennett and is still searching for my Great Grand Father, but I do think I am getting close. But I do need help from the good people from this list; I hope this is the correct way to seek help. In the family bible of my GF, his father writes his name as JOHN CHARLES BENNETT. On all the birth certificates of his children it indicates that he was born in Plymouth in 1825. On the disc of THE THREE TOWNS I can find no JOHN CHARLES BENNETT. On the disc I can find 7 baptisms with the name JOHN BENNETT at PLYMOUTH CHARLES And 2 at STOKE DAMEREL. Are birth dates in the 1800's recorded? I have a copy of a page from NSW Masters & Mates showing a JC BENNETT with born PLYMOUTH 7 AUGUST 1825. I have a copy of a SEAMAN'S TICKETS 1845------1854 showing, 470425 John Bennett Born at Plymouth 7 day Aug 1823 County of Devon Capacity Seaman Age when ticketed 26 First went to sea -APP In the year 1836 Royal Navy No Foreign Service No When unemployed Resides Plymouth Issued at Plymouth 1 NOV 1849 On the far side of the ticket in the 1853 row it shows that what I think is a voyage that he was the COOK Stopping at ports 11.85.11 and 64.29.6 Below those numbers it shows D maybe deserter maybe discharged, the date is what strikes me 25/5/1825 The only ship in Sydney around that date was the EUPHRATES; a single female passenger named ELIZA ANN NICE was aboard. JOHN CHARLES BENNETT married an ELIZA ANN NICE 13 June 1852 in Sydney. If this is my man how do prove it and trace his parents. With many thanks Regards Gordon Bennett

Hi Diane, This should help, Tiverton & Dulverton1841 Census Thomas Pitt 60Frances Pitt 55James Pitt 20Liberty Pitt 15Henry Pitt 15Emma Pitt 14Jane Pitt 15 1841 Census Gave ages to the nearest 5 or zero that accounts for three children all aged 15 Best WishesSteve DinhamSouth Wales uk   From: Neil and Diane Pitt via <devon@rootsweb.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:09 AM Subject: [DEV] PITT Liberty 1822 Hi all, I'm trying to find the parents of Liberty PITT born 1822 in Tiverton.  Is anyone able to help please? TIA Diane ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much Joy, Carol, Paul & Ros, Your letters are all very interesting, especially that the two names are inter changeable. To sort them all out I think I need to do a separate GIDLEY Tree to see where it takes me. I could add Augustavus and Othniel as other unusual names within the GIDLEY families. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Brealey" <joy@brealey.org> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:12 PM To: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au>; <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SOUTHHAMS] Archelaus GIDLEY or Hercules > The name Archelaus is the same as Hercules. > My ancestor Archelaus Edwards is named Hercules in several documents. > Regards > Joy Brealey > > On 22/11/2014 06:48, B. Edmonds via wrote: >> Afternoon >> >> Archilaus GIDLEY was bapt at Rattery 13 April 1790 s/o William & Anne. >> >> Mary GIDLEY of Ebrington St, c 1817 names her father as Archelaus GIDLEY >> when she marries in 1843 Plymouth to John CRIMP. >> >> I can find no marriage for an Archilaus GIDLEY [I have the marriage >> printout] in fact 1790 is the last date for such a person on FMP. There >> is >> always the possibility that he never married. >> >> There is a Hercules GIDLEY in Plymouth in 1841 with a daughter Maria aged >> 15 >> at Cambridge St. He is a Brewer. This Hercules married Ann MARES 2 Feb >> 1815 >> at Kingsbridge. >> >> I am wondering if anyone has this particular family. Do they have a >> marriage >> for Maria the d/o of Hercules so that I can rule out that the Vicar wrote >> down the wrong father's name on my marriage entry. Should it have been >> Hercules rather that Archelaus? >> >> Mary Gidley's baptism date matches the time frame that Hercules GIDLEY >> baptised his daughter Mary at Kingsbridge in 1816. His other daughter >> Caroline is also baptized at Kingsbridge Independent in 1822 d/o >> Hercules. >> >> Regards >> Bev >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4223/8615 - Release Date: 11/23/14 >

Looking for information on... Ann FOOT and Peter Diamond DOIDGE, b1778 m 1803, Bere Ferrers... 12 known children... Thank you Hilton Doidge New Zealand

Bev, Have look at Familysearch for Archilaus GIDLEY restricted to England/Devonshire. It pulls up a t least three generations of Archilaus and Hercules plus assorted others which you can filter out. It looks like the family were in Buckfastleigh and other places as well as Rattery. This is reflected in FMP. I also noticed some non-conformist entries. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds via Sent: 22 November 2014 20:41 To: eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com; DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Archelaus GIDLEY or Hercules [part 2] Morning all I have since had time to do some more digging and can rule out the Vicar writing down the wrong name. Arche [i]laus and Hercules are not the same persons. I am still looking for the mysterious Archilaus GIDLEY. But I do believe that Archilaus and Hercules could be brothers. A rather odd coincidence though is that John CRIMP is witness to the marriage of Caroline GIDLEY [d/o Hercules] when she marries Richard TUCKER in 1845 in Plymouth Charles . This must be the same John CRIMP who married my Mary GIDLEY in 1843 in Plymouth Charles. Has anyone got them in their Tree please. Would love to hear from you. Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:48 PM To: <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com>; <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Archelaus GIDLEY or Hercules > Afternoon > > Archilaus GIDLEY was bapt at Rattery 13 April 1790 s/o William & Anne. > > Mary GIDLEY of Ebrington St, c 1817 names her father as Archelaus > GIDLEY when she marries in 1843 Plymouth to John CRIMP. > > I can find no marriage for an Archilaus GIDLEY [I have the marriage > printout] in fact 1790 is the last date for such a person on FMP. > There is always the possibility that he never married. > > There is a Hercules GIDLEY in Plymouth in 1841 with a daughter Maria > aged > 15 at Cambridge St. He is a Brewer. This Hercules married Ann MARES 2 > Feb > 1815 at Kingsbridge. > > I am wondering if anyone has this particular family. Do they have a > marriage for Maria the d/o of Hercules so that I can rule out that the > Vicar wrote down the wrong father's name on my marriage entry. Should > it have been Hercules rather that Archelaus? > > Mary Gidley's baptism date matches the time frame that Hercules GIDLEY > baptised his daughter Mary at Kingsbridge in 1816. His other daughter > Caroline is also baptized at Kingsbridge Independent in 1822 d/o Hercules. > > Regards > Bev > > > > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all I have since had time to do some more digging and can rule out the Vicar writing down the wrong name. Arche [i]laus and Hercules are not the same persons. I am still looking for the mysterious Archilaus GIDLEY. But I do believe that Archilaus and Hercules could be brothers. A rather odd coincidence though is that John CRIMP is witness to the marriage of Caroline GIDLEY [d/o Hercules] when she marries Richard TUCKER in 1845 in Plymouth Charles . This must be the same John CRIMP who married my Mary GIDLEY in 1843 in Plymouth Charles. Has anyone got them in their Tree please. Would love to hear from you. Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:48 PM To: <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com>; <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Archelaus GIDLEY or Hercules > Afternoon > > Archilaus GIDLEY was bapt at Rattery 13 April 1790 s/o William & Anne. > > Mary GIDLEY of Ebrington St, c 1817 names her father as Archelaus GIDLEY > when she marries in 1843 Plymouth to John CRIMP. > > I can find no marriage for an Archilaus GIDLEY [I have the marriage > printout] in fact 1790 is the last date for such a person on FMP. There is > always the possibility that he never married. > > There is a Hercules GIDLEY in Plymouth in 1841 with a daughter Maria aged > 15 at Cambridge St. He is a Brewer. This Hercules married Ann MARES 2 Feb > 1815 at Kingsbridge. > > I am wondering if anyone has this particular family. Do they have a > marriage for Maria the d/o of Hercules so that I can rule out that the > Vicar wrote down the wrong father's name on my marriage entry. Should it > have been Hercules rather that Archelaus? > > Mary Gidley's baptism date matches the time frame that Hercules GIDLEY > baptised his daughter Mary at Kingsbridge in 1816. His other daughter > Caroline is also baptized at Kingsbridge Independent in 1822 d/o Hercules. > > Regards > Bev > > > >

Judith Thomas Through the Guild of One Name Studies has a site on the name Gidley. You might want to take a look and contact Judith. http://one-name.org/name_profile/gidley/ <http://one-name.org/name_profile/gidley/> Carol Gertner e-Mail: CGertner@mac.com > On Nov 22, 2014, at 3:40 PM, B. Edmonds via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Morning all > > I have since had time to do some more digging and can rule out the Vicar > writing down the wrong name. Arche [i]laus and Hercules are not the same > persons. > > > I am still looking for the mysterious Archilaus GIDLEY. But I do believe > that Archilaus and Hercules could be brothers. > > A rather odd coincidence though is that John CRIMP is witness to the > marriage of Caroline GIDLEY [d/o Hercules] when she marries Richard TUCKER > in 1845 in Plymouth Charles . This must be the same John CRIMP who married > my Mary GIDLEY in 1843 in Plymouth Charles. > > Has anyone got them in their Tree please. Would love to hear from you. > > Regards > Bev > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:48 PM > To: <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com>; <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Archelaus GIDLEY or Hercules > >> Afternoon >> >> Archilaus GIDLEY was bapt at Rattery 13 April 1790 s/o William & Anne. >> >> Mary GIDLEY of Ebrington St, c 1817 names her father as Archelaus GIDLEY >> when she marries in 1843 Plymouth to John CRIMP. >> >> I can find no marriage for an Archilaus GIDLEY [I have the marriage >> printout] in fact 1790 is the last date for such a person on FMP. There is >> always the possibility that he never married. >> >> There is a Hercules GIDLEY in Plymouth in 1841 with a daughter Maria aged >> 15 at Cambridge St. He is a Brewer. This Hercules married Ann MARES 2 Feb >> 1815 at Kingsbridge. >> >> I am wondering if anyone has this particular family. Do they have a >> marriage for Maria the d/o of Hercules so that I can rule out that the >> Vicar wrote down the wrong father's name on my marriage entry. Should it >> have been Hercules rather that Archelaus? >> >> Mary Gidley's baptism date matches the time frame that Hercules GIDLEY >> baptised his daughter Mary at Kingsbridge in 1816. His other daughter >> Caroline is also baptized at Kingsbridge Independent in 1822 d/o Hercules. >> >> Regards >> Bev >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Afternoon Archilaus GIDLEY was bapt at Rattery 13 April 1790 s/o William & Anne. Mary GIDLEY of Ebrington St, c 1817 names her father as Archelaus GIDLEY when she marries in 1843 Plymouth to John CRIMP. I can find no marriage for an Archilaus GIDLEY [I have the marriage printout] in fact 1790 is the last date for such a person on FMP. There is always the possibility that he never married. There is a Hercules GIDLEY in Plymouth in 1841 with a daughter Maria aged 15 at Cambridge St. He is a Brewer. This Hercules married Ann MARES 2 Feb 1815 at Kingsbridge. I am wondering if anyone has this particular family. Do they have a marriage for Maria the d/o of Hercules so that I can rule out that the Vicar wrote down the wrong father's name on my marriage entry. Should it have been Hercules rather that Archelaus? Mary Gidley's baptism date matches the time frame that Hercules GIDLEY baptised his daughter Mary at Kingsbridge in 1816. His other daughter Caroline is also baptized at Kingsbridge Independent in 1822 d/o Hercules. Regards Bev

Hi James - FMP does not appear to have any record of the CROOK-EDWARDS marriage or the 1815 baptism of Elizabeth Ann CROOK that you are looking for, neither in Dawlish nor anywhere else. There was a CROOK family in Dawlish but on FMP they do not appear in the main parish of Dawlish St Gregory as baptisms before 1811 or as marriages before 1832, so the CROOK family may not have arrived in Dawlish much before 1811, or your CROOK may have lived in Dawlish St Mark for which FMP has no baptisms before 1885 or nearby in Cofton Chapelry for which FMP has a couple of CROOK baptisms in the 1860s. And Elizabeth Ann CROOK may not have been baptised in the parish of her birth. If you cannot find any other record of her birth or baptism then is it possible that she took the name CROOK from a stepfather William who married a widow EDWARDS or single-mother EDWARDS? Are you sure that "Dolish" really is Dawlish, Devon, England? Are you talking about a Dawlish Bible or an Irish Bible to which a "foreign" bride was appended? If Dawlish is correct then that entry was made by someone unfamiliar with the correct spelling. Alternatively, if "Dolish" is indeed correct then Google finds a Dolish Farmhouse B&B at Luppitt near Honiton. Another possibility is the parish of Dowlish Wake in Somerset. Do you know for sure that William and Ann CROOK emigrated from Devon to Ireland, or might Elizabeth Ann have emigrated without her parents, or might they and their daughter have been native to a "Dolish" in Ireland and never lived in England? While it is possible that Willian CROOK might have been a coastguard in Dawlish around 1815, that might well have been his occupation when his daughter married in Ireland in 1836. Ancestry has several rather questionable public trees but one (Henry Family) that looks a bit more credible is the only one that has the exact same date of birth, 27 Jan 1815, as in your family Bible, but in "Dawlish, Devon, Ireland". So that tree owner either got that date from your Bible or from another source that you have not yet found. That tree says William and Elizabeth Ann HENRY married in Donegal in 1836 and emigrated to Australia in 1837. Good hunting. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message----- From: James Butler via Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 5:08 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Dawlish baptsm My great-great- grandmother, Elizabeth ANN Crook, was born in Dolish (sic) on 27 January 1815, according to the family Bible, which appears to be accurate in all respects so far. Her father was William Crook, a coastguard, her mother was born Ann Edwards (according to the information on her death certificate, as supplied by her husband. I understand the Dawlish registers are in the Devon County Record Office. Are transcripts available? Or is someone able to check one day if Elizabeth was christened there, or any sibling information? I have no idea if the parents married there or not, and William later moved to Ireland, as my great-great-grandparents were married in County Londonderry in 1836. Regards James Butler ------------------------------------------

To find out what is held by the LDS try the catalogue https://familysearch.org/catalog-search. To find out what is online set the Family History Centre dropdown to "online" other wise use "Family History Library" or your nearest library for films -there is one for London. I must say that the county archives I have visited in the last few years give you a copy of the LDS film made when the LDS visited. Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of liverpud via Sent: 21 November 2014 14:25 To: James Butler; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Dawlish baptsms, etc. Did you try: Archer-LDS site - http://www.archersoftware.co.uk/igi/fs-dev.htm Edna - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: James Butler via Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:08 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Dawlish baptsm I wonder if I can ask for some assistance. My great-great- grandmother, Elizabeth ANN Crook, was born in Dolish (sic) on 27 January 1815, according to the family Bible, which appears to be accurate in all respects so far. Her father was William Crook, a coastguard, her mother was born Ann Edwards (according to the information on her death certificate, as supplied by her husband. I understand the Dawlish registers are in the Devon County Record Office. Are transcripts available? Or is someone able to check one day if Elizabeth was christened there, or any sibling information? I have no idea if the parents married there or not, and William later moved to Ireland, as my great-great-grandparents were married in County Londonderry in 1836. Regards James Butler ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello James; While I can't assist with your immediate posting, I am interested in the CROOK family of Devon. They have married into many of my families of Devon such as: LOVEYS SMERDON STONE ELLIS PETHYBRIDGE I have not studied this line in detail, but am interested in CROOK. Also interested in your BUTLER name. Some years ago I researched the name BUTLER in northeast Victoria here in Australia, together with its Kentish origins, in connection with greater research of the families of northeast Victoria. Looking forward to hearing from you. Len Heyward -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Butler via Sent: Friday, 21 November 2014 4:09 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Dawlish baptsm I wonder if I can ask for some assistance. My great-great- grandmother, Elizabeth ANN Crook, was born in Dolish (sic) on 27 January 1815, according to the family Bible, which appears to be accurate in all respects so far. Her father was William Crook, a coastguard, her mother was born Ann Edwards (according to the information on her death certificate, as supplied by her husband. I understand the Dawlish registers are in the Devon County Record Office. Are transcripts available? Or is someone able to check one day if Elizabeth was christened there, or any sibling information? I have no idea if the parents married there or not, and William later moved to Ireland, as my great-great-grandparents were married in County Londonderry in 1836. Regards James Butler ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My reason for making the original request was because it was later than those wills online, the will I wanted was 1938. I must thank David Down for not only looking up the will for me, but also for the photographs. This helped me solve a 10 year old mystery of a missing Torquay relative. Trry On 21/11/2014 14:02, Brian Randell via wrote: > Hi Alan: > > Many thanks - in fact I provide links to PRO Victoria under Emigration on GENUKI’s UK&I page, rather than Devon, because of the general nature of their resources. > > Cheers > > Brian > > On 14 Nov 2014, at 11:36, Alan Pine via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Whose will? Many are now on line and freely downloadable. Tell me what >> you can and I'll see what I can do. >> >> For Brian. >> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/family-history >> http://prov.vic.gov.au/provguide-23 >> Many of these are on line to view the scanned images and free to >> download and there are others than can only be viewed at the PROV >> reading room. Over the past few years more and more have been digitised >> and made available for free. Quite probable there and many Devonians in >> there. >> >> Alan. >> >> On 11/11/14 03:28, Terry Leaman via wrote: >>> Does anyone on the list visit North Melbourne reading room at Public >>> Record Office Victoria and could look at a 1938 will for me please?. >>> >>> Terry >>> >>> >>> North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See >>> more at: >>> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf >>> North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See >>> more at: >>> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf >>> North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See >>> more at: >>> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU > EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 > URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brian.randell > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I wonder if I can ask for some assistance. My great-great- grandmother, Elizabeth ANN Crook, was born in Dolish (sic) on 27 January 1815, according to the family Bible, which appears to be accurate in all respects so far. Her father was William Crook, a coastguard, her mother was born Ann Edwards (according to the information on her death certificate, as supplied by her husband. I understand the Dawlish registers are in the Devon County Record Office. Are transcripts available? Or is someone able to check one day if Elizabeth was christened there, or any sibling information? I have no idea if the parents married there or not, and William later moved to Ireland, as my great-great-grandparents were married in County Londonderry in 1836. Regards James Butler

Hi Alan: Many thanks - in fact I provide links to PRO Victoria under Emigration on GENUKI’s UK&I page, rather than Devon, because of the general nature of their resources. Cheers Brian On 14 Nov 2014, at 11:36, Alan Pine via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Whose will? Many are now on line and freely downloadable. Tell me what > you can and I'll see what I can do. > > For Brian. > http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/family-history > http://prov.vic.gov.au/provguide-23 > Many of these are on line to view the scanned images and free to > download and there are others than can only be viewed at the PROV > reading room. Over the past few years more and more have been digitised > and made available for free. Quite probable there and many Devonians in > there. > > Alan. > > On 11/11/14 03:28, Terry Leaman via wrote: >> Does anyone on the list visit North Melbourne reading room at Public >> Record Office Victoria and could look at a 1938 will for me please?. >> >> Terry >> >> >> North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See >> more at: >> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf >> North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See >> more at: >> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf >> North Melbourne reading room at Public Record Office Victoria. - See >> more at: >> http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/wills-and-probate#sthash.SEuv3WWP.dpuf >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/staff/profile/brian.randell

Hi Marj. Are you referring to this web site - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ayshford/ ? If so, it was me. My grandmother was an Ayshford. I haven't done much with it for a while now, but I do keep meaning to return to it. Feel free to drop ma an email. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: marj via Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:28 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Ayshford family I would like to contact the person who wrote the history of the Ayshford family of Ayshford Court near Burlescombe. I am also tracing that family. Regards.. Marj ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4213/8599 - Release Date: 11/20/14