The surname looks like GEROTT - it is similar to the name I have researched in Wiltshire. Marie -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Williamson via Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:45 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Can't read - can you help? Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where (for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html Marlene Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought I had replied but I have not seen my response, so here goes again ! I believe the 3rd line reads: John EROTT father of Joseph was buried ... Jan'y 9th 7 mo's I believe the 4th line reads: George ERROTT journeyman was buried ... ....th June I do have the surname ERROTTI and variants in my family tree, hence my take on the name. However, my family of this surname does not appear in the UK databases until mid 1850s. so, 1599 is interesting and of course I may have interpreted the above completely wrong. Diane - Western Australia On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:11 AM, liverpud via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Could it be John Merrett? > > Edna - Ottawa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sher Leetooze via > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 9:17 PM > To: m.williamson@paradise.net.nz ; devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Can't read - can you help? > > Marlene: > All I can make out are John and George _erott (both men had the same > surname), but it has been so long since I read handwriting from that era > that I just couldn't make out the rest. It will certainly need some study > with another document from the same era in order to compare letters and > flourishes. > Sher > > > \At 01:45 PM 15/12/2014 +1300, you wrote: > >Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the > >original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where > >(for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might > >care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? > > > >http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html > > > >Marlene > > > >Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon > >Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock > > > > > >------------------------------------------ > >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > >List archive for Devon can be found at > >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >Internal Virus Database is out of date. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 > >19:45:00 > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, the first looks like Lawrence Sowden , the second John Mathew the elder. the third John Serell the elder of Upcott, the fourt George Serell youngman and last Richard Rattenbury of Winckley . I don`t think they are Snells .....the second letter in both surnames is an e . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Williamson via" <devon@rootsweb.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:45 AM Subject: [DEV] Can't read - can you help? > Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the > original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where > (for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might > care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? > > http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html > > Marlene > > Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon > Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Sher, The 3rd and 4th entries intrigue me because the surname looks very much like ERROTT. The 4th I believe may be John ERROTT the father of Joseph was buried this - could be January 9th 7 mo [months] The 4th could be George ERROTT journeyman was buried something of June perhaps ??? Why the intrigue is that I have the surname ERROTTI in my family but not until the mid 1850s. cheers, Diane - Western Australia On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Sher Leetooze via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Marlene: > regarding the names in your closing list - Lashbrooks were out at Mary Tavy > not far from Tavistock. > Sher > > > At 01:45 PM 15/12/2014 +1300, you wrote: > >Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the > >original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where > >(for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might > >care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? > > > >http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html > > > >Marlene > > > >Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon > >Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock > > > > > >------------------------------------------ > >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > >List archive for Devon can be found at > >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >Internal Virus Database is out of date. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 > >19:45:00 > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/ << an excellent site. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year

Your message came 'late arrival' -- I guess it is the season. There are Perrot/Perot families in the area... There is a Paleo site in the National Archives, you might try that. Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year From: Diane Foster Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:44 PM To: liverpud ; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Sher Leetooze Subject: Re: [DEV] Can't read - can you help? I thought I had replied but I have not seen my response, so here goes again ! I believe the 3rd line reads: John EROTT father of Joseph was buried ... Jan'y 9th 7 mo's I believe the 4th line reads: George ERROTT journeyman was buried ... ....th June I do have the surname ERROTTI and variants in my family tree, hence my take on the name. However, my family of this surname does not appear in the UK databases until mid 1850s. so, 1599 is interesting and of course I may have interpreted the above completely wrong. Diane - Western Australia

Here you go Marlene, I've given the exact transcription first, following by the updated language in the second instance of each entry: 1599 John Snell thelder of Upcott was Buried the xviiith of June ec John Snell the elder of Upcott was buried the 18th of June etc. George Snell yoongman was Buryed the xxth of June ec George Snell young man was buried the 20th of June etc. Sincerely, Susan D. Young St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada zandara@cogeco.ca

Could it be John Merrett? Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze via Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 9:17 PM To: m.williamson@paradise.net.nz ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Can't read - can you help? Marlene: All I can make out are John and George _erott (both men had the same surname), but it has been so long since I read handwriting from that era that I just couldn't make out the rest. It will certainly need some study with another document from the same era in order to compare letters and flourishes. Sher \At 01:45 PM 15/12/2014 +1300, you wrote: >Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the >original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where >(for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might >care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? > >http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html > >Marlene > >Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon >Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock > > >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >List archive for Devon can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >Internal Virus Database is out of date. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 >19:45:00 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marlene: regarding the names in your closing list - Lashbrooks were out at Mary Tavy not far from Tavistock. Sher At 01:45 PM 15/12/2014 +1300, you wrote: >Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the >original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where >(for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might >care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? > >http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html > >Marlene > >Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon >Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock > > >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >List archive for Devon can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >Internal Virus Database is out of date. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 >19:45:00

Marlene: All I can make out are John and George _erott (both men had the same surname), but it has been so long since I read handwriting from that era that I just couldn't make out the rest. It will certainly need some study with another document from the same era in order to compare letters and flourishes. Sher \At 01:45 PM 15/12/2014 +1300, you wrote: >Thanks to FindMyPast I have been looking at the digital images of the >original parish registers but there are two entries on the same page where >(for the life of me) I can't make out the words. Is there anyone who might >care to look at the screenshot (link below) and give me an opinion? > >http://rd29.net/snell/chawleigh.html > >Marlene > >Snell, Greenslade, Tanner, Harris, Davy, and many more - Mid Devon >Dann, Washfield, Lashbrook, Lipson - Tavistock > > >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >List archive for Devon can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >Internal Virus Database is out of date. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5704 - Release Date: 03/25/13 >19:45:00

Hi, I have definitely found a months subscription to Find My Past to be the best value. In one month I have downloaded literally hundreds of parish register scans and made so much progress on a lot of new lines. Mind you almost all my family is from Devon back to the 1500s. However beware and tick the box so that you do not automatically get renewed each month. Ruth On 14 Dec 2014, at 16:41, Liz & Tom Thompson via wrote: > > Hello, > > Again, thanks to everyone who spared the time to help me solve the problem. > >> From the advice received, and because the Tregelly result is from a > submitted source, I have decided to forgo it, although I will keep the > record. It appears that my main option now is to bite the bullet and, > against my instincts, invest in FMP, since Devon CC has sold out to them. > I will then be able to trawl through the marriage records for Devon > parishes. > > But, before I do, could someone please explain how the credits work. Does > one credit give access to one Parish, one record, one page or just one line > on the page? If only the latter, I will have to go for a more expensive > package. > > Many thanks, > Tom Thompson. > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Again, thanks to everyone who spared the time to help me solve the problem. >From the advice received, and because the Tregelly result is from a submitted source, I have decided to forgo it, although I will keep the record. It appears that my main option now is to bite the bullet and, against my instincts, invest in FMP, since Devon CC has sold out to them. I will then be able to trawl through the marriage records for Devon parishes. But, before I do, could someone please explain how the credits work. Does one credit give access to one Parish, one record, one page or just one line on the page? If only the latter, I will have to go for a more expensive package. Many thanks, Tom Thompson.

Hello, Just to keep you up-to-date, and following my problems with FamilySearch, this came through on CORNISH-GEN. Tom Thompson. NEW.FAMILYSEARCH.ORG WILL BE TURNED OFF ON FEBRUARY 1, 2015 The next step to fully implement FamilySearch Family Tree on FamilySearch.org is to disable the ability for users to login to and access new.FamilySearch.org. This milestone is planned to occur on February 1, 2015. On February 1, all public APIs (application programming interfaces) will be turned off, as will be the ability to access the program. This step is necessary as we enter the final phase, which is to transfer and synchronize all of the remaining data from new.FamilySearch.org to FamilySearch Family Tree. It is anticipated that this final phase of data testing, transfer, and retesting will require a year to complete. Once this phase is completed in early 2016, new.FamilySearch.org will be completely shut down. It is important to note that many highly desired features of FamilySearch Family Tree cannot begin to be developed until new.FamilySearch.org has reached the final milestone and is completely shut-off. Once that has happened, work can begin on features such as: Merging of gateway ancestors and other people with large records. Highlighting and fixing other data eccentricities, such as when a person appears to have been married before birth, a child older than a parent, a child who is the spouse of parent or grandparent, and so on. The ability for users to change the gender of an ancestor. The ability to see a spouse's ancestral line by default. The patron submissions as well as the extracted data have always been and continue to be included and accessible, but one has to know where to find them. They can be accessed at the following URL: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi You will see two categories to be searched, (1) Community Contributed IGI (Personal family information submitted to the LDS Church) (these are the patron submissions), and (2) Community Indexed IGI (Vital and church records from the early 1500s to 1885), the indexed (extracted) records, nearly all of which are baptisms (christenings) and marriages. So the marriages that were extracted data and found in the IGI are still found there, as well as the baptisms. One can search by name, date, place, and/or batch numbers using the IGI, and you can search either patron submitted or extracted data, or both. The IGI is not being updated (and has not been added to for some time), but Family Search has expressed a commitment to keep all the information in the IGI on the Family Search website and to keep it available and searchable. All new data is going directly into Family Search Family Tree, with older data migrated to Family Tree. There are redundant ways to find much of the information, but hopefully this short summary will be helpful to those trying to find record data on Family Search.

when you find a person in Family Search, if you look at bottom of the info it will give you the source for where the information was found. You may want to order the microfilm of the source, as the films have a lot more information on them. I was able to find one of my ancestors by looking at the witnesses of the marriage, who were only listed in the film itself. when Family Search was updated, all sources were incorporated into the new FS, including IGI. On 12/12/2014 07:21, Liz & Tom Thompson via wrote: > Hello to all, > > Many, many thanks to all those who responded over my FamilySearch problem. > It is truly remarkable how people rally round. > > I have found the Thomas Mitchell/Susanna Tregelly marriage entry and have > printed it off for safe keeping! > > However, I'm still puzzled over how this problem came about. Having been > told by FS that I had to update my browser, I have gone over to Firefox and > FS appears to work perfectly. But, how did I find that marriage entry in > the "old" FS if I was being directed to the "new" one by virtue of the > updated browser? > > And I'm still puzzled by the fact that a search for a marriage (approached > from the Susanna direction) only produced birth entries. I don't think that > even FS know the answer! > > All that aside, I am left with a basic problem over whether to accept this > TM/ST marriage as the one I want as there could be lots of other TM > marriages out there which aren't showing up. Any ideas? > > If I could establish that Nancy is a diminutive of Susanna, that would help > as I have found a burial for a Nancy Mitchell in St Agnes at a date that > would fit. > > Again, many thanks for all the help received. > > Tom Thompson, > St Agnes. > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These were included in the old IGI online. Because of the complaints in the past about the quality of the "patron submissions" entries (some pure guesswork) That they have been removed from the main Family Search Database. Did they get married at that church on that day ? I had a load of these type entries in Somerset and they do not appear in the parish registers of the quoted parish. Mike Fisher On 12/12/2014 14:21, Liz & Tom Thompson via wrote: > However, I'm still puzzled over how this problem came about. Having been > told by FS that I had to update my browser, I have gone over to Firefox and > FS appears to work perfectly. But, how did I find that marriage entry in > the "old" FS if I was being directed to the "new" one by virtue of the > updated browser? > > And I'm still puzzled by the fact that a search for a marriage (approached > from the Susanna direction) only produced birth entries. I don't think that > even FS know the answer! > > All that aside, I am left with a basic problem over whether to accept this > TM/ST marriage as the one I want as there could be lots of other TM > marriages out there which aren't showing up. Any ideas? >

Hello to all, Many, many thanks to all those who responded over my FamilySearch problem. It is truly remarkable how people rally round. I have found the Thomas Mitchell/Susanna Tregelly marriage entry and have printed it off for safe keeping! However, I'm still puzzled over how this problem came about. Having been told by FS that I had to update my browser, I have gone over to Firefox and FS appears to work perfectly. But, how did I find that marriage entry in the "old" FS if I was being directed to the "new" one by virtue of the updated browser? And I'm still puzzled by the fact that a search for a marriage (approached from the Susanna direction) only produced birth entries. I don't think that even FS know the answer! All that aside, I am left with a basic problem over whether to accept this TM/ST marriage as the one I want as there could be lots of other TM marriages out there which aren't showing up. Any ideas? If I could establish that Nancy is a diminutive of Susanna, that would help as I have found a burial for a Nancy Mitchell in St Agnes at a date that would fit. Again, many thanks for all the help received. Tom Thompson, St Agnes.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:10:01 +0000 Ruth Wilson via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Ruth, >Please could someone have a look at the record on Find my Past and see >if they think the 23 is an age. It isn't. The only persons that have a number, other than burial date, recorded against their name are the persons last buried that year. The number records the total number of burials for that year. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" If Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limousine anyway (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais - The Clash

I have always believed that the Lawrence Harepath buried in 1780 at Pilton was the Lawrence who was baptised in 1731 at Pilton and married Elizabeth Odam and had 14 children most of whose baptisms can be found at Pilton. However the record is now on Find my Past and they have interpreted a small 23 above the entry as an age. This would mean that the burial was possibly of his son Lawrence who was baptised in 1764. If so however either Lawrence junior was baptised at the age of seven or the age at death is incorrect. I have documentation which suggests that Lawrence senior moved to Bristol, certainly at least four of the children turn up there. Elizabeth seems to be buried in Pilton in 1801. Please could someone have a look at the record on Find my Past and see if they think the 23 is an age. Alternatively if anyone could find a Lawrence buried in the Bristol area, that would solve my problem. Thank you Ruth

In case anyone missed this story yesterday: http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/North-Devon-Record-Office-close-revealed/story-25505769-detail/story.html "Mr Christie said all statutory records would be moved to Exeter but added it was not known what would happen to personal records." Liz Loveland

Hi Liz and all, I can say for sure that images and other data do not necessarily stay on FamilySearch. As a couple of examples, scans of the vital records for the American cities of Chicago and Philadelphia used to be on FamilySearch, but they were removed and all that was left were indexes. This is a small example of why researchers should never assume anything that's online will remain there, as counter-intuitive as it may seem when dealing with large sites such as FamilySearch. Liz Loveland