Hi Jane: Thanks for posting this - this second link was one I didn’t have already in GENUKI/Devon. If you spot any more that I don’t yet have I’d be grateful if you’d send me the details. Cheers Brian Randell On 18 Jan 2015, at 10:47, e-mail robertcampbell.1 via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The history and antiquities of the parish of Clyst St George Ellacombe, > Henry Thomas, 1790-1885 > http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044081215642;view=1up;seq=9 > Jane > > On 16 January 2015 at 15:10, e-mail robertcampbell.1 < > robertcampbell.1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> The registers of Clyst St. George, co. Devon : 1565-1812 ; Transcribed by >> the Rev. John Lomax Gibbs >> https://archive.org/stream/registersofclyst25clys#page/n3/mode/2up >> >> Regards >> Jane >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 FAX = +44 191 208 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

Thank you to everyone who replied to my query. Adrian On 18/01/2015 10:11, Adrian via wrote: > Augustus, son of George and Fanny CORNISH, was baptised in > Doddiscombsleigh parish church on 27 March 1842. > > I would appreciate help in deciphering the family's abode. It looks > something like Blirdstill. > > Can anyone help, please? > > Adrian >

Here is another connection to Devon No connection to me that I know of. Henry NORTHCOTT died 26 Apr 1932 and was buried at Goombungee, Qld, Australia aged 66 yrs His parents are William NORTHCOTT and Charlotte LASKY There is a Banns Notice for a William NORTHCOTT to Charlotte LASKEY at Bridford 4 Jan 1846 This appears to be the family in 1851 William NORTHCOTT Head M 35 M Ag Lab Bridford-Dev Charlotte NORTHCOTT Wife M 26 F --- Cheriton Bishop-Dev John NORTHCOTT Son - 4 M --- Bridford-Dev Mary Ann NORTHCOTT Daur - 2 F --- Bridford-Dev George NORTHCOTT Son - 6m M --- Bridford-Dev Address: New House, - Census Place: Bridford St Thomas, Devonshire Bev in Oz

It looks like Blindsill and I wonder if it is an attempt by the clerk to cope with Blendsfield which is shown on the map in the Doddiscombsleigh Conservation Area Appraisal on the Genuki Devon Doddiscombsleigh page. Joy Langdon Doddiscombsleigh interest Endicott ----Original message---- >From : devon@rootsweb.com Date : 18/01/2015 - 10:11 (GMTST) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] DODDISCOMBSLEIGH AUGUSTUS CORNISH Augustus, son of George and Fanny CORNISH, was baptised in Doddiscombsleigh parish church on 27 March 1842. I would appreciate help in deciphering the family's abode. It looks something like Blirdstill. Can anyone help, please? Adrian ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The nearest I can find on this map is Burnwell. <http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Doddiscombsleigh/ParishMap.html> It's just outside the parish boundary, west of the GWR line. Regards, Maureen Devon FHS 4019 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Adrian via > Sent: 18 January 2015 10:12 > To: Devon List > Subject: [DEV] DODDISCOMBSLEIGH AUGUSTUS CORNISH > > > > Augustus, son of George and Fanny CORNISH, was baptised in > > Doddiscombsleigh parish church on 27 March 1842. > > > > I would appreciate help in deciphering the family's abode. It looks > > something like Blirdstill. > > > > Can anyone help, please? > > > > Adrian --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Adrian, I made it 'Blindswill'. He's a first cousin 3 times removed of mine; do you have a connection? Bruce DFHS 163 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian via Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:11 AM To: Devon List Subject: [DEV] DODDISCOMBSLEIGH AUGUSTUS CORNISH Augustus, son of George and Fanny CORNISH, was baptised in Doddiscombsleigh parish church on 27 March 1842. I would appreciate help in deciphering the family's abode. It looks something like Blirdstill. Can anyone help, please? Adrian ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looks like BLINDSWELL to me, although the First Edition Ordnance Survey map of the area has nothing similar to that. -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian via Sent: 18 January 2015 10:12 To: Devon List Subject: [DEV] DODDISCOMBSLEIGH AUGUSTUS CORNISH Augustus, son of George and Fanny CORNISH, was baptised in Doddiscombsleigh parish church on 27 March 1842. I would appreciate help in deciphering the family's abode. It looks something like Blirdstill. Can anyone help, please? Adrian ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The history and antiquities of the parish of Clyst St George Ellacombe, Henry Thomas, 1790-1885 http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044081215642;view=1up;seq=9 Jane On 16 January 2015 at 15:10, e-mail robertcampbell.1 < robertcampbell.1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > The registers of Clyst St. George, co. Devon : 1565-1812 ; Transcribed by > the Rev. John Lomax Gibbs > https://archive.org/stream/registersofclyst25clys#page/n3/mode/2up > > Regards > Jane >

Augustus, son of George and Fanny CORNISH, was baptised in Doddiscombsleigh parish church on 27 March 1842. I would appreciate help in deciphering the family's abode. It looks something like Blirdstill. Can anyone help, please? Adrian

Morning, Hoping this will help someone who maybe tracking their lost Devon relatives. I have discovered that a Caroline VOISEY who married William HANDFORD in Wellington Somerset 1862 immigrated to Australia. Upon her death in 1934 her parents are recorded as William VOISEY and Charlotte [maiden name not known in Index] but she is 92 yrs old and born Somersetshire Using FreeReg, I tracked her as being bapt in St John, Wellington, d/o William and Charlotte, a weaver Date of Birth 26 Jan 1842 Baptism Date 20 Feb 1842 I then found a marriage at Cullompton Devon between William VOISEY and Charlotte BAKER 6 May 1830 Genuki Devon then has the following baptisms for a William VOISEY at Cullompton but I do not know which one would be his parents. 24th May 1801, William son of John Voisey, (yeoman) born 5th May 1800 19th July 1807, William son of Richard Voisey born 29th June 30th Sept 1810, William son of William Voisey junr born 17th William HANDFORD and Caroline his wife [nee VOISEY] were both buried at Goombungee in Queensland, Australia William died 6 June 1914 and parents are recorded as Unknown Caroline Handford died 10 May 1934 aged 92, born Somerset [parents William VOISEY and Charlotte ] William HANDFORD was 42 in 1881 and is a Boot & Shoemaker of South Molton in Devon, living in Yorkshire with wife Caroline [nee VOISEY]& of their children. William is seems could be this lad in 1851 with his grand parents. William HANDFORD Head M 61 M Road Lab High Bickington-DEV Mary HANDFORD Wife M 65 F Formerly Farm Serv Rose Ash-DEV William HANDFORD GSon - 14 M Shoemaker Ap South Molton-DEV Richard WHITE GSon - 5 M Scholar South Molton-DEV Address: Cooks Cross, South Molton Census Place: South Molton South Molton, Devonshire PRO Reference: HO/107/1891 Folio: 546 Page: 7 FHL Film: 0221042 Regards Bev in Oz

Hi Mary-Louise; Many thanks for the info. I think the situation in your message would be an extreme long-shot, but thank you once again. Regards Len Heyward -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary-Louise Thompson via Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2015 12:19 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] HAMLYN/HEYWARD Hi Len, This is probably a long shot, but I have a gx3 grandmother named Ann HAMLYN (b. ca 1777, d. 19 Jan 1862 in Cookbury, Devon. She married George JEFFERY (1758-1829) in Cookbury on 12 Dec 1797 and they had 6 children: Mary (b 1799), George (b 1800), Thomas (b 1802), John (b 1806), Ann (b 1808) and Elizabeth (b 1810). George JEFFERY (b 1800) above, and his wife Elizabeth DAVEY had 2 sons: Josias and Daniel. I've often wondered whether those first names had any historic family connection. Could there be anything in the fact that your Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD named their son Josias George? As I said, it's a long shot. Interestingly, George JEFFERY's wife, Elizabeth Davey, appears to have left him because by 1843 he was living with his 'housekeeper', Elizabeth HAMLYN (his cousin perhaps?). They never married but had 4 children together. Cookbury is a long way from Widecombe (and even further from Tasmania!) However, I wonder whether your Mary HAMLYN and my Ann HAMLYN might have been sisters. Regards, Mary-Louise Thompson -----Original Message----- From: devon-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:01 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: DEVON Digest, Vol 10, Issue 9 Today's Topics: 1. HAMLYN/HEYWARD (Len Heyward) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:40:07 +1100 From: "Len Heyward" <lhe6246@bigpond.com> Subject: [DEV] HAMLYN/HEYWARD To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d0312d$5bf9c7d0$13ed5770$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Listers; Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one of my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD family. It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe in the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 and had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on this couple. They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for these two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive but I cannot pin-point those in question. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards Len Heyward ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mine are HAYWOODs throughout - except for the 1861 census, when they are enumerated as HOWARD. (Yes, I know it's them, because of small sons Albin and Ebenezer). That was in Bovey Tracey. Ros Haywood -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Frances Radford via Sent: 16 January 2015 16:55 To: Len Heyward; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] HAMLYN/HEYWARD I have been researching my Devon HEYWOOD for a number of years and found a number of variants - HAYWOOD, HEYWARD, HAYWARD, HIGHWOOD and most significantly HOWARD in Crediton, Hittisleigh, Spreyton, Drewsteignton and Cheriton Bishop parishes. The name seems to change every time they moved parishes, but I can definitely prove the HEYWOOD/HOWARD change. Most of my ancestors were illiterate and the spelling was left up to the man recording the birth, marriage or burial in the parish registers. Frances Radford Devon Systems Main: 416-486-6185 Fax: 416-486-6185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Heyward via" <devon@rootsweb.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:40 PM Subject: [DEV] HAMLYN/HEYWARD > Hi Listers; > > > > Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one > of > my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD > family. > > > > It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular > branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe > in > the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been > born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 > and > had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on > this couple. > > > > They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in > 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. > > > > After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for > these > two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping > someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive > but > I cannot pin-point those in question. > > > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards > > > > Len Heyward > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The registers of Clyst St. George, co. Devon : 1565-1812 ; Transcribed by the Rev. John Lomax Gibbs https://archive.org/stream/registersofclyst25clys#page/n3/mode/2up Regards Jane

Hi Len, If the Heywards moved to Chagford as seems possible as Josias was baptised there. Then possible burial for George Heyward is Oct 6th 1817 aged 59. Making him born around 1759. Devon Heritage Centre do have a copy of a Will for a George Heyward of Chagford for 1818. (Would be date of probate). See Devon Wills project http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonWillsProject/ for more info. Would suggest getting hold of this will to see if is your man or not. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 16/01/2015 08:27, Peter via wrote: > Hi Len, > Firstly, looking at the baptism of Josias. This was at Chagford on 5 April > 1807. The register records it as "Josias son of George Heyward (of > Withecombe in the moor) and Mary his wife". >

Hi Len, This is probably a long shot, but I have a gx3 grandmother named Ann HAMLYN (b. ca 1777, d. 19 Jan 1862 in Cookbury, Devon. She married George JEFFERY (1758-1829) in Cookbury on 12 Dec 1797 and they had 6 children: Mary (b 1799), George (b 1800), Thomas (b 1802), John (b 1806), Ann (b 1808) and Elizabeth (b 1810). George JEFFERY (b 1800) above, and his wife Elizabeth DAVEY had 2 sons: Josias and Daniel. I've often wondered whether those first names had any historic family connection. Could there be anything in the fact that your Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD named their son Josias George? As I said, it's a long shot. Interestingly, George JEFFERY's wife, Elizabeth Davey, appears to have left him because by 1843 he was living with his 'housekeeper', Elizabeth HAMLYN (his cousin perhaps?). They never married but had 4 children together. Cookbury is a long way from Widecombe (and even further from Tasmania!) However, I wonder whether your Mary HAMLYN and my Ann HAMLYN might have been sisters. Regards, Mary-Louise Thompson -----Original Message----- From: devon-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:01 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: DEVON Digest, Vol 10, Issue 9 Today's Topics: 1. HAMLYN/HEYWARD (Len Heyward) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:40:07 +1100 From: "Len Heyward" <lhe6246@bigpond.com> Subject: [DEV] HAMLYN/HEYWARD To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d0312d$5bf9c7d0$13ed5770$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Listers; Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one of my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD family. It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe in the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 and had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on this couple. They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for these two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive but I cannot pin-point those in question. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards Len Heyward

Hi Listers; Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one of my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD family. It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe in the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 and had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on this couple. They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for these two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive but I cannot pin-point those in question. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards Len Heyward

I have been researching my Devon HEYWOOD for a number of years and found a number of variants - HAYWOOD, HEYWARD, HAYWARD, HIGHWOOD and most significantly HOWARD in Crediton, Hittisleigh, Spreyton, Drewsteignton and Cheriton Bishop parishes. The name seems to change every time they moved parishes, but I can definitely prove the HEYWOOD/HOWARD change. Most of my ancestors were illiterate and the spelling was left up to the man recording the birth, marriage or burial in the parish registers. Frances Radford Devon Systems Main: 416-486-6185 Fax: 416-486-6185 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Heyward via" <devon@rootsweb.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:40 PM Subject: [DEV] HAMLYN/HEYWARD > Hi Listers; > > > > Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one > of > my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD > family. > > > > It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular > branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe > in > the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been > born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 > and > had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on > this couple. > > > > They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in > 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. > > > > After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for > these > two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping > someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive > but > I cannot pin-point those in question. > > > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards > > > > Len Heyward > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Len Findmypast Devon Baptisms have a few possiblities which may be worth exploring: George Heyward, Baptised 16 May 1762, North Bovey - Parents Richard & Honour Mary Hamlyn, Baptised 25 June 1770, Widecombe in the Moor - Parents John & Grace No other interest in these families. Regards Roy Drew On 16/01/2015 01:40, Len Heyward via wrote: > Hi Listers; > > > > Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one of > my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD > family. > > > > It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular > branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe in > the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been > born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 and > had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on > this couple. > > > > They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in > 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. > > > > After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for these > two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping > someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive but > I cannot pin-point those in question. > > > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards > > > > Len Heyward > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Len, Firstly, looking at the baptism of Josias. This was at Chagford on 5 April 1807. The register records it as "Josias son of George Heyward (of Withecombe in the moor) and Mary his wife". Secondly, looking at the marriage of George & Mary. The register entry shows: "George Hayward, Sojourner and Mary Hamlyn of this parish married by banns 4 February 1793" He signed she made her mark. They were married in the presence of Nicholas Smerdon and John Tremills (he was witness to others on the page so probably a church official). Thirdly, Josias' siblings seem to be: Ann in 1793, Peter in 1796, George in 1798 and Mary in 1801 all baptised at Widecombe in the Moor. Possible baptisms for George Heyward are: North Bovey on 16 May 1762 son of Richard & Honour. (about 4.5 miles from Widecombe) Colebrooke on 21 September 1761 son of William & Ann. (about 15 miles from Widecombe) Colebrooke on 29 March 1767 son of John & Frances Probable baptism for Mary Hamlyn is at Widecombe in the Moor on 25 June 1770 daughter of John and Grace. Regards Peter Hi Listers; Since the list is fairly quite at the moment, I thought I would post one of my long standing brick walls to do with a branch of the HAMLYN/HEYWARD family. It has been suggested by another researcher that the head of a particular branch here in Australia is a Mary HAMLYN and George HEYWARD of Widecombe in the Moor. No date of birth is known, however they would need to have been born approximately 1770 as they were married in Widecombe on 4 Feb 1793 and had at least a son and a daughter. This is all the information we have on this couple. They had a son Josias George HEYWARD born most probably in Widecombe in 1806. He died in Tasmania, Australia, in 1886. After previously going through my HAMLYN and HEYWARD data looking for these two without success, I am now resorting to posting on the list hoping someone may be able to assist. My data on these two names is extensive but I cannot pin-point those in question. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards Len Heyward

Hello Shirley – Your Plymouth/New York information is not well substantiated by the usual online resources so I googled the name of your relative and found your previous enquiries on India-L (Jun 2002, Jan 2007), Genes Reunited (Nov 2012) and Devon-L (Jan 2014). For the benefit of our present readers, Michael Richard COBEY was one of the sons of your 4g-gf Daniel COBIE (born Suffolk, served in the Navy, raised a family in Plymouth, twice married, retired to Tormoham (Torquay), died 1852). FamilySearch has a Pedigree Resource File [https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:SP8T-N2D] for this COBY family but gives no further information about Michael. It identifies a Catherine as Daniel's first wife and mother of his children, and the Mary in the 1851 census as Daniel's second wife. You can also find Daniel COBEY's service and medal records on Ancestry, as well as on FMP – he enlisted in 1813 and was discharged in 1837 with a chronic chest condition. Without re-inventing the wheel, I fully concur with previous replies that the two brothers Michael and Matthew COBEY who lived at the same address and became US citizens on consecutive days 25 and 26 October 1865 [Ancestry] were the same sons (aged 14 and 16) of Mathew and Mary COBY/COLBY in the 1860 New York census [Ancestry], and the same juveniles aged 4 and 6 who arrived in New York from Liverpool on 15 April 1851 in a contingent of Irish Famine Immigrants [Ancestry & FMP]. Do not be misled by the statement that their previous nationality was "English", because (excuse my pedantry) immigrants of Irish origin were actually of British nationality and English is widely synonymous for British. And the Michael COBEY, born ca 1845, married to Josephine in the 1870 New York census was born in New York [Ancestry]. So the sources you appear to have used do not support the emigration of your Devon-born relative to the USA. If you know for sure that he did visit North America, then he did not leave any readily accessible digital trail. The helpful advice you got from Devon-L was that Michael might have used his middle name Richard, for which I find no evidence, and that he might have joined the Navy, in which case he might (but does not) appear in some military census returns. The previous suggestion that he might be mistranscribed as the 1844 Plympton-born sawyer Richard CORBER lodging at Cornwood in the 1861 census does not seem likely, because there was a CORBER family of Cornwood and he reappears in the censuses of 1881 and 1911. The FamilySearch PRF has a note that Michael might be mistranscribed as the Royal Marine Richard COPE, born Plymouth 1846, in the 1871 census of HMS Gladiator in Montevideo harbour, but inspection of the page image confirms Richard POPE, for whom there was such a birth in Plympton St Mary. Resorting to other public trees, I infer from the results of free (non-subscription) searches that Michael Richard COBEY appears in two trees on Genes Reunited (of which you are probably aware) and together with a wife Josephine in another tree on MyHeritage (which marriage I have already dismissed). I'm afraid that is all rather negative and, unless you have better news off-list, I suspect you will not find Michael here. He might have been a merchant seaman, or died without record, or travelled beyond the reach of bureaucracy, or whatever. You could throw the net a bit wider and try Genbrit-L, but do concentrate on what you know for sure rather than the red herrings that have proved unhelpful. I can sympathise with your frustration, but perhaps Michael might not want you to find him. My miscreant great-grandfather did a runner from Newton Abbot about 1890, allegedly possibly to the US, Canada or South Wales, but he covered his tracks and I'm still looking for bigamous cousins. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie via Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 10:12 PM To: 's.ireland345' ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Micheal Richard Cobey. Shirley Find My Past gives the birth registration index details. You would need to order a copy to get the full details. There is also an 1851 census entry for a Michel Cobey born 1845 in Plymouth, father Daniel, a Chelsea Pensioner born Suffolk and mother Mary born Buckfastleigh. Find my Past (world subscription) also has a passenger record for a Michael Cobey born 1847 and a migration record. Daniel's service record is also on FMP. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of s.ireland345 via Sent: 05 January 2015 20:35 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Micheal Richard Cobey. Hi, I was wondering if someone can help me. For years I,ve been trying to find my relation who was born in Plymouth Devon in 1845. He was Naturalized in New York County in 1865, and some how he got married. l do not know if came back to England or not. l have written to some of the researchers in the usa but so far no reply. lf some one can help, l would be grateful. Regards Shirley. ------------------------------