I am trying to resolve some issues with my Hingston One-Name Study, in particular relating to the family who originated in the Halwell/Morleigh area (see http://www-civ.eng.cam.ac.uk/cjb/hingston/hh.htm). One particular question relates to the location of the "London Inn". This appears to have been located at Morley Cross, which was actually located in Halwell Parish (The parish boundaries in this area were very convoluted) - See the Genuki maps http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Moreleigh/ParishMap.html. The modern A381 road from Stanborough down to Halwell was a turnpike - I am not sure when it was built but it wasn't authorised until an act of 1834 (http://www.turnpikes.org.uk/Devon%20-%20Kingsbridge%20Dartmouth.htm). Before then, the route from Kingsbridge to Totnes would have passed from Stanborough to Morley Cross, then down past Boriston and along the ridge past Poulston before dropping down to Harbertonford, which as the name suggests was a very old crossing place for the River Harbourne. There was another ridge road (a sign of a very old route) from Morley Cross north westwards towards Dartmoor, along the watershed between the Avon and Harbourne/Dart rivers. (See http://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/Devon-donn-1765 which shows the pre-turnpike road layout) So Morley Cross was very probably an important cross roads for a very long time, and could well have been the site of a coaching inn from which you could take the coach to distant places, like London, hence the name. The "New Inn" at Morleigh (about 100m west of Morley Cross) is itself quite old, but to be a new Inn there had to have ben an old Inn. Was this the London Inn? There appears to be an old building in the NE corner of Morley Cross - the other three corners do not appear to be occupied. Was this originally "The London Inn"? Did it close when the turnpike bypassed Morley and took away its trade? I have Hingstons living at the London Inn in 1861 so it was still working then. (I am aware that there was also a London Inn in Stoke Fleming, and there were also Hingstons there, but it is the Morleigh one I want to locate). If anyone has any information I would be delighted to hear from them. Chris Burgoyne

HI Bev Thomas Williams, (Speaker of House of Commons) = Emlin Crewys da. William Crewys and Margaret Pollard. A few generations earlier on the same line John Pollard was my ancestor. I have a note under Richard Cole - (Line is said to continue). Jane Williams married Captain Richard Cannock (what he was captain of I've no idea or if Army or Navy). She married Philip Cole and John Buller, the latter in about 1597. She died as a widow Between 27 October 1621 - 14 September 1633. I have no children listed for either of these other than Richard Cole. Richard's wife Radigan did remarry Sir William Cooke of Highnam, Gloucester, Aft. 19 April 1614. I think by my daughter she means my daughter in law Lady Cooke i.e. Radigan. I have a Sir William Cooke of Gloucester whose daughter Ann married Sir Peter Ball and one of their daughters Radigan married Miles Cook I bet this all entwines somewhere. The two Sir Williams are probably one, and the same. I think the two daughters may have been John Bullers by a previous marriage. This is where family history gets really complicated. They refer to daughters who are not related as if they wee their own, it causes confusion. Sir William Cooke (14 February 1572 – 2 March 1619) was an English landowner and politician who sat in the House of Commons at various times between 1597 and 1614. Cooke was the son of William Cooke of Westminster, also a Member of Parliament and younger son of Sir Anthony Cooke of Gidea Hall (Essex). His mother, Frances Grey, was first-cousin to Lady Jane Grey and granddaughter to Thomas Grey, Marquess of Dorset and Anthony Browne, Viscount Montagu. His father had the post of Clerk of Liveries in the Court of Wards and arranged for the post to be passed on to his son. Cooke was educated at Shrewsbury School in 1583. He became Clerk of Liveries on the death of his father in 1589, though he was only 17. He was admitted at Grey's Inn in 1592. In 1593, he went abroad, with a two-years’ licence to travel after his mother's unsuccessful attempt to arrange a marriage for him while he was a minor. By 1596 he was Justice of the Peace for Hertfordshire. Cooke's father's eldest sister, Mildred Cooke, had married Lord Burghley, and Cooke received patronage from both Burghley and his own first cousin, Sir Robert Cecil. Cecil's influence may have secured him seats in Parliament. In 1597, he was elected Member of Parliament for Helston. By January 1599, he was purveyor to the stable and had sufficient property to offer himself, with six men and horses, for the Queen’s service. In 1601 he was elected MP for Westminster. He was knighted at Theobalds on 7 May 1603. In 1604, he was elected MP for Wigan. He enhanced his estates by purchasing further land in and around Gloucester, and also owned Ribbesford Manor and other property in Worcestershire. In the reign of James I he was keeper of the lodge and herbage of Hartwell Park, Northamptonshire. By 1605, he was JP for Gloucestershire. He was steward of the manor of Bury St. Edmunds by 1614. In 1614 he was elected MP for Gloucestershire. Cooke died at the age 45 and the clerkship of the liveries, which had become ‘quasi-hereditary’, stayed in his family. Cooke married Joyce Lucy, granddaughter of Sir Thomas Lucy, and only child of Thomas Lucy (1551–1605) of Charlecote, Warwickshire, by his first wife, Dorothea Arnold, and through her acquired Highnam Court in Gloucestershire. Dorothea Arnold was the only child of Ronald Arnold of Highnam Court, Gloucestershire, and with Dorothea's death soon after Joyce's birth, Joyce had become her grandfather Arnold's sole heir. Joyce and William Cooke had at least three sons and five daughters. Their youngest daughter, Anne, married Sir Peter Ball and produced William Ball, astronomer, founder and treasurer of the Royal Society and Peter Ball, physician, both Fellows of the Royal Society Regards Terry -----Original Message----- From: B. Edmonds via Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 4:44 AM To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Joan CONNOCK [COLE/WILLIAMS] of Lyllesdon,Somerset [Will 1621] to be bur at Cornwood Devon https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog Now......there could very well be a connection here to one of my families, so would appreciate it if anyone has previously sorted this connection. Page 95 The above Joan requests to be buried at Cornwood in Devon near my late husband Philip COLE. My daughter Lady COOKE In notes by the author, he has noted She was the d/o Thomas WILLIAMS of Stoford, Devon. She married 1st Philip COLE, by whom she had an only son Richard COLE, who died 1619, and whose wife, Radigon BOSCAWON, remarried Sir William COOKE of Highnam [Higham] She married sndly, Richard CONNOCK. of Lillesdon, in North Curry, Somerset. Apparently she had a daughter, wife of John BULLER and another daughter wife of Sir Thomas PRIDEAUX. I have a Sir William COOKE c 1572 of Highnam Court married to a Joyce LUCY. Would it have been his son William c 1602 who was married to the widow of Richard COLE? Any help greatly appreciated. Would this be the same Sir William COOKE as the one I have. I have my Sir William COOKE dying 1619. 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https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog Now......there could very well be a connection here to one of my families, so would appreciate it if anyone has previously sorted this connection. Page 95 The above Joan requests to be buried at Cornwood in Devon near my late husband Philip COLE. My daughter Lady COOKE In notes by the author, he has noted She was the d/o Thomas WILLIAMS of Stoford, Devon. She married 1st Philip COLE, by whom she had an only son Richard COLE, who died 1619, and whose wife, Radigon BOSCAWON, remarried Sir William COOKE of Highnam [Higham] She married sndly, Richard CONNOCK. of Lillesdon, in North Curry, Somerset. Apparently she had a daughter, wife of John BULLER and another daughter wife of Sir Thomas PRIDEAUX. I have a Sir William COOKE c 1572 of Highnam Court married to a Joyce LUCY. Would it have been his son William c 1602 who was married to the widow of Richard COLE? Any help greatly appreciated. Would this be the same Sir William COOKE as the one I have. I have my Sir William COOKE dying 1619. Regards Bev

https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog There used to be a lady on Devon-L a long time ago researching the name WORTH in Devon and at Washfield too I think. See page 81 Bev

https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog Page 77 Bev Not my family

Not my family, and back to browsing, too cold to do anything else. But........... I wonder!!! https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog Page 50 In the Will of William EDWARDS in 1623 of West HATCH, Somerset, he mentions a son Christopher EDWARDS whom he leaves lands in Chudleigh and Dawlish in Devon. I wonder if the Christopher who is buried 1625 at Woodland is the same chap? Woodland is not that far from Chudleigh/Dawlish. Just a thought in case someone is stuck with this bloke. Worth a look if nothing else. Regards Bev

Hi Robyn I agree that Bryant must have been born earlier than the marriage and definitely too young to have married when he did if born after the other children. Yes Caleb may have been married earlier but it does not help when he says he is a bachelor on his marriage to Sophia. That of course does not mean he was telling the truth. Most of our ancestors did fabricate a bit. I understand the problem with so many of the same name in the family with my mothers line there are at least 5 generations of Francis Hutchinson both male and female and not helped when Francis married Frances. Yes much more digging required and good hunting Marie -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Waymouth Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:22 AM To: Marie McCulloch ; elizgh ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 Thanks again for your interest Marie. Henry, of the will proved in 1803, is the grandfather of the Bryant I am interested in. It does get confusing with so many with the same name - the Henrys and Fredericks in this family are legion! Bryant of the trust would be Caleb Bryant, father of my boy. Since CB and SM married in 1819 and had children in 1820, 22, 24 and 26 we'd have to assume that Bryant was younger than all of them - say born in 1828 if we keep the pattern going. It's just not possible. CB was 36 in 1819 so there was plenty of time for him to have been married before and had Bryant with a first wife. At 18 Bryant went to Chile for 5 years. He came back to England (23) and worked as a teacher and married in 1841. If he was born in 1828 he would only have been 13. If the 1841 census is wrong (typically) and he was say 29 the puzzle is even greater as to who his mother was. Just more digging I guess. Cheers, Robyn

Hi Bev: You might care to know that this source "https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog” is one of a six volume series "Crisp, Frederick Arthur. Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills”, details of the Devon wills in which (almost 250 in number) have already been added to the Devon Wills Project - where they are listed as coming from source MISC/Crisp. Cheers Brian On 15 Jul 2015, at 22:56, B. Edmonds via <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The above Will can be found on Pg 55 --- plus others of same place over page > with a Pedigree. > > https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog > > Not my family. > > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks again for your interest Marie. Henry, of the will proved in 1803, is the grandfather of the Bryant I am interested in. It does get confusing with so many with the same name - the Henrys and Fredericks in this family are legion! Bryant of the trust would be Caleb Bryant, father of my boy. Since CB and SM married in 1819 and had children in 1820, 22, 24 and 26 we'd have to assume that Bryant was younger than all of them - say born in 1828 if we keep the pattern going. It's just not possible. CB was 36 in 1819 so there was plenty of time for him to have been married before and had Bryant with a first wife. At 18 Bryant went to Chile for 5 years. He came back to England (23) and worked as a teacher and married in 1841. If he was born in 1828 he would only have been 13. If the 1841 census is wrong (typically) and he was say 29 the puzzle is even greater as to who his mother was. Just more digging I guess. Cheers, Robyn On 16/07/2015 9:57 AM, Marie McCulloch wrote: > As I said in an earlier message Bryant (Briant) could have been close > to 29 years old in the 1841 > census. > The other children of Caleb and Sophia were > Caroline Matilda (Metilda on christening) christened 8 September 1820 > Henry born 9 September 1822 christened 7 October 1824 died in 1915. > Frederick born 3 September 1824 christened 7 October 1824 died 23 > November 1884 > Samuel born 9 January 1826 christened 5 February 1826 died 7 April 1894. > > Because Bryant's (Briant) legacy was left in trust does not > necessarily mean he was underage > but could have been because he was not able to manage his own affairs > or was > not in England. > > The name Bryant came into the family through Caleb Bryant's mother > being Sarah > Bryant who married Henry Waymouth. > > Marie > > -----Original Message----- From: elizgh via > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:39 AM > To: Robyn Waymouth ; devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hi , I have written a long email about > Bryant and Briant and so on and it has disappeared into the ether > .......If > he was born in 1816 then he predates his potential parents by 3 yrs , > they > were married in 1819 . However as you are quoting the 1841 census , > the > ages are inaccurate and could well be rounded up or down . Caleb and > Sophia have children from 1820 their marriage being in 1819 but there > are > gaps . Caroline Matilda is 1820 but Henry and Frederick not until > 1824 and > Samuel 1826. There are a number of wills on Ancestry Henry himself > , his > widow Sarah from Bath 1825, Henry`s sister Mary and so on . Henry > mentions > in his will proved 1803 a son Briant who is probably underage and his > legacy > is left in trust . Caleb is in the Discovery National Archives > concerned > with properties in St Leonard`s Exeter also dated 1803 when Caleb is > 22 yrs > old it says . This ties in with the bapt in South St Baptist in 1783 > . It > might pay to read through all the relevant Waymouth and Coleridge > wills for > the period 1815-1830 Briant is a name in the family going back to > 1803 so > worth chasing all these people . > email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Robyn A copy of the marriage will be attached to the next email direct to you. Marie -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Waymouth via Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:57 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Parish records Middlesex Sorry to be asking about an event in Middlesex, but the family was from Devon. I used the microfilm in the London Metropolitan Archives in 2008 to find the Marriage Register from St Giles in the Field for a marriage in 1819. I can't find the print I made now. Can someone advise if these records are online anywhere? I've been researching this family for a long time, but not at all recently and I'm a bit rusty with what is where now. The marriage is of Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE, 19 November 1819. Regards, Robyn Melbourne ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to be asking about an event in Middlesex, but the family was from Devon. I used the microfilm in the London Metropolitan Archives in 2008 to find the Marriage Register from St Giles in the Field for a marriage in 1819. I can't find the print I made now. Can someone advise if these records are online anywhere? I've been researching this family for a long time, but not at all recently and I'm a bit rusty with what is where now. The marriage is of Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE, 19 November 1819. Regards, Robyn Melbourne

As I said in an earlier message Bryant (Briant) could have been close to 29 years old in the 1841 census. The other children of Caleb and Sophia were Caroline Matilda (Metilda on christening) christened 8 September 1820 Henry born 9 September 1822 christened 7 October 1824 died in 1915. Frederick born 3 September 1824 christened 7 October 1824 died 23 November 1884 Samuel born 9 January 1826 christened 5 February 1826 died 7 April 1894. Because Bryant's (Briant) legacy was left in trust does not necessarily mean he was underage but could have been because he was not able to manage his own affairs or was not in England. The name Bryant came into the family through Caleb Bryant's mother being Sarah Bryant who married Henry Waymouth. Marie -----Original Message----- From: elizgh via Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:39 AM To: Robyn Waymouth ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 Hi , I have written a long email about Bryant and Briant and so on and it has disappeared into the ether .......If he was born in 1816 then he predates his potential parents by 3 yrs , they were married in 1819 . However as you are quoting the 1841 census , the ages are inaccurate and could well be rounded up or down . Caleb and Sophia have children from 1820 their marriage being in 1819 but there are gaps . Caroline Matilda is 1820 but Henry and Frederick not until 1824 and Samuel 1826. There are a number of wills on Ancestry Henry himself , his widow Sarah from Bath 1825, Henry`s sister Mary and so on . Henry mentions in his will proved 1803 a son Briant who is probably underage and his legacy is left in trust . Caleb is in the Discovery National Archives concerned with properties in St Leonard`s Exeter also dated 1803 when Caleb is 22 yrs old it says . This ties in with the bapt in South St Baptist in 1783 . It might pay to read through all the relevant Waymouth and Coleridge wills for the period 1815-1830 Briant is a name in the family going back to 1803 so worth chasing all these people . email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Peter On 16/07/2015 1:51 AM, Peter via wrote: > Robyn, > > It was the baptisms of Frederick & Henry. Sorry, no more detail than has > already been posted. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Robyn Waymouth via > Sent: 15 July 2015 3:54 PM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hello Peter, > > Thanks for your reply. Could you give me a little more detail? Is this > Bryant's baptism? I have no idea where or when it was. > > Caleb Bryant would have been a gentleman, according to the ideas of the day. > They were a wealthy family - Caleb Bryant was an underwriter at Lloyd's and > his father had been a banker in Exeter. His brothers' houses in the West end > of London (his has gone) would would be worth millions. > > Cheers, > > Robyn > > On 15/07/2015 4:21 PM, Peter via wrote: >> Looking at the baptism register their abode was 'Walworth' and Caleb >> Bryant WAYMOUTH's occupation looks like 'Gentleman'. >> >> Peter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Marie McCulloch via >> Sent: 15 July 2015 1:43 AM >> To: Robyn Waymouth; devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 >> >> Hi Robyn >> >> I was very interested in your information as I had Sophia Matilda's >> surname as CORBRIDGE. >> >> I had no knowledge of Bryant WAYMOUTH but I do have their son >> Frederick WAYMOUTH born 3 September 1824 and christened on >> 7 October 1824 at Old St Pancras the same day as his brother Henry >> WAYMOUTH who was born on 9 September 1822. >> Frederick and died on 23 November 1884. Frederick married Lisca >> Gertrude COLNAGHI on 28 October 1854. >> >> My interest is through the Colnaghi family. >> >> I noted that when Caleb and Sophia's daughter Caroline Matilda >> (Metilda) was christened in 1820 that the father's name was given name >> as Bryant and not Caleb. >> >> If Caroline was Bryant's sister it is possible that on his death >> someone has mistakenly thought his mother's name was also Caroline. >> >> As Bryant gave his age as 25 on the 1841 census he could actually have >> been as old as 29 years. >> >> Never believe anything you read in the papers especially the older >> ones as I have found they are so misleading. >> >> Regards >> Marie >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robyn Waymouth via >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:42 AM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I can't find any formal record of Bryant WAYMOUTH's birth. I hunted >> for this a few years ago and it's time to have another look, as we've >> just had his grave restored here in Melbourne. Unfortunately the text >> is almost worn away. >> >> *An old family document (known to have errors) says he was born 1 >> January 1815, parents Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda nee >> COLERIDGE. She is said to be the daughter of Colonel COLERIDGE and >> niece of the Marquis of Anglesey. >> >> *The 1841 census says he was born 1816. >> >> *His Victorian death certificate says his mother was Caroline nee >> COLERIDGE and that he was born in London. His first daughter is >> Caroline Matilda and the name Caroline is used in the next two >> generations, although never before. >> >> *Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE married 10 >> November 1819, St Giles in the Field, Middlesex, she as a spinster, he as > a bachelor. >> *Caleb BRYANT of Taunton Somerset was his maternal grandfather. I've >> wondered if young Bryant was illegitimate, or adopted, but would he >> have been given his grandfather's name? >> >> I've subscribed to Find My Past, but can find nothing there and have >> in the past searched Ancestry. If anyone can suggest where else I >> might look I'd be very grateful. The Waymouths are an Exeter family >> who were moving to London around this time, so Bryant's birth could be in > either region. >> Regards, >> >> Robyn >> Melbourne, Oz > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The above Will can be found on Pg 55 --- plus others of same place over page with a Pedigree. https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog Not my family. Bev

Morning, Not my family, just browsing............. Browsing through Google Books at https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog I use Google Chrome but I cannot seem to be able to magnify the page so not sure of the date of above Will. There is a Transcript of this Will plus many others on there. Regards Bev

Much better if you save the book as a PDF file then you can read it at what ever size you want. Very easy to do if one knows how. However this book isn't exactly the best copied version. It's very blurred when magnified x 200 just using the zoom feature. -----Original Message----- From: Jean Williams via Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:13 AM To: 'B. Edmonds' ; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] William CATFORD of Sampford Peverell Will c 1625 inSomerset [also CATTIFORD] Try holding the ctrl key whilst rolling the mouse wheel Jean -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds via Sent: 15 July 2015 22:52 To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] William CATFORD of Sampford Peverell Will c 1625 in Somerset [also CATTIFORD] Morning, Not my family, just browsing............. Browsing through Google Books at https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog I use Google Chrome but I cannot seem to be able to magnify the page so not sure of the date of above Will. There is a Transcript of this Will plus many others on there. Regards Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10235 - Release Date: 07/15/15 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try holding the ctrl key whilst rolling the mouse wheel Jean -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds via Sent: 15 July 2015 22:52 To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] William CATFORD of Sampford Peverell Will c 1625 in Somerset [also CATTIFORD] Morning, Not my family, just browsing............. Browsing through Google Books at https://archive.org/details/abstractssomers00browgoog I use Google Chrome but I cannot seem to be able to magnify the page so not sure of the date of above Will. There is a Transcript of this Will plus many others on there. Regards Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10235 - Release Date: 07/15/15

Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for your detailed response. I have seen these documents - it's quite a wonderful collection. There are several sources for Bryant's birth date - a document possibly written by himself (too good to hope for), another by his son in 1918, derived largely from the former, and especially the year of his forced retirement in 1875 at 60 from the Victorian Public Service. The census could even be accurate! I've struggled to find where Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE comes from too. She is said to be from "the" Coleridge family, but I haven't been able to find her and they are well documented. The name Bryant still continues in the family. Caleb BRYANT, fuller of Taunton would never have expected his name to be so firmly incorporated into the Waymouths when his daughter married Henry W in 1774! I really appreciate your interest and all the leads you have provided. Robyn On 16/07/2015 12:39 AM, elizgh@btinternet.com wrote: > Hi , I have written a long email about > Bryant and Briant and so on and it has disappeared into the ether > .......If he was born in 1816 then he predates his potential parents > by 3 yrs , they were married in 1819 . However as you are quoting > the 1841 census , the ages are inaccurate and could well be rounded > up or down . Caleb and Sophia have children from 1820 their marriage > being in 1819 but there are gaps . Caroline Matilda is 1820 but > Henry and Frederick not until 1824 and Samuel 1826. There are a > number of wills on Ancestry Henry himself , his widow Sarah from Bath > 1825, Henry`s sister Mary and so on . Henry mentions in his will > proved 1803 a son Briant who is probably underage and his legacy is > left in trust . Caleb is in the Discovery National Archives > concerned with properties in St Leonard`s Exeter also dated 1803 when > Caleb is 22 yrs old it says . This ties in with the bapt in South St > Baptist in 1783 . It might pay to read through all the relevant > Waymouth and Coleridge wills for the period 1815-1830 Briant is a > name in the family going back to 1803 so worth chasing all these people . > > -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Waymouth via > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 12:42 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hi Folks, > > I can't find any formal record of Bryant WAYMOUTH's birth. I hunted for > this a few years ago and it's time to have another look, as we've just > had his grave restored here in Melbourne. Unfortunately the text is > almost worn away. > > *An old family document (known to have errors) says he was born 1 > January 1815, parents Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda nee > COLERIDGE. She is said to be the daughter of Colonel COLERIDGE and > niece of the Marquis of Anglesey. > > *The 1841 census says he was born 1816. > > *His Victorian death certificate says his mother was Caroline nee > COLERIDGE and that he was born in London. His first daughter is > Caroline Matilda and the name Caroline is used in the next two > generations, although never before. > > *Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE married 10 November > 1819, St Giles in the Field, Middlesex, she as a spinster, he as a > bachelor. > > *Caleb BRYANT of Taunton Somerset was his maternal grandfather. I've > wondered if young Bryant was illegitimate, or adopted, but would he have > been given his grandfather's name? > > I've subscribed to Find My Past, but can find nothing there and have in > the past searched Ancestry. If anyone can suggest where else I might > look I'd be very grateful. The Waymouths are an Exeter family who were > moving to London around this time, so Bryant's birth could be in either > region. > > Regards, > > Robyn > Melbourne, Oz > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >

Hi Terry, Yes, I think there was a lot of property. Cheers, Robyn On 16/07/2015 12:32 AM, Terry Blackmore via wrote: > Probably means he was like some of my ancestors listed as gentlemen, but > were actually owners of property, such as farms, pubs, etc., from which they > earned a living. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter via > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 7:21 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Looking at the baptism register their abode was 'Walworth' and Caleb Bryant > WAYMOUTH's occupation looks like 'Gentleman'. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Marie McCulloch via > Sent: 15 July 2015 1:43 AM > To: Robyn Waymouth; devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hi Robyn > > I was very interested in your information as I had Sophia Matilda's surname > as CORBRIDGE. > > I had no knowledge of Bryant WAYMOUTH but I do have their son Frederick > WAYMOUTH born 3 September 1824 and christened on > 7 October 1824 at Old St Pancras the same day as his brother Henry WAYMOUTH > who was born on 9 September 1822. > Frederick and died on 23 November 1884. Frederick married Lisca Gertrude > COLNAGHI on 28 October 1854. > > My interest is through the Colnaghi family. > > I noted that when Caleb and Sophia's daughter Caroline Matilda (Metilda) was > christened in 1820 that the father's name was given name as Bryant and not > Caleb. > > If Caroline was Bryant's sister it is possible that on his death someone has > mistakenly thought his mother's name was also Caroline. > > As Bryant gave his age as 25 on the 1841 census he could actually have been > as old as 29 years. > > Never believe anything you read in the papers especially the older ones as I > have found they are so misleading. > > Regards > Marie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyn Waymouth via > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:42 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hi Folks, > > I can't find any formal record of Bryant WAYMOUTH's birth. I hunted for > this a few years ago and it's time to have another look, as we've just had > his grave restored here in Melbourne. Unfortunately the text is almost worn > away. > > *An old family document (known to have errors) says he was born 1 January > 1815, parents Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda nee COLERIDGE. She > is said to be the daughter of Colonel COLERIDGE and niece of the Marquis of > Anglesey. > > *The 1841 census says he was born 1816. > > *His Victorian death certificate says his mother was Caroline nee COLERIDGE > and that he was born in London. His first daughter is Caroline Matilda and > the name Caroline is used in the next two generations, although never > before. > > *Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE married 10 November > 1819, St Giles in the Field, Middlesex, she as a spinster, he as a bachelor. > > *Caleb BRYANT of Taunton Somerset was his maternal grandfather. I've > wondered if young Bryant was illegitimate, or adopted, but would he have > been given his grandfather's name? > > I've subscribed to Find My Past, but can find nothing there and have in the > past searched Ancestry. If anyone can suggest where else I might look I'd > be very grateful. The Waymouths are an Exeter family who were moving to > London around this time, so Bryant's birth could be in either region. > > Regards, > > Robyn > Melbourne, Oz > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Peter, Thanks for your reply. Could you give me a little more detail? Is this Bryant's baptism? I have no idea where or when it was. Caleb Bryant would have been a gentleman, according to the ideas of the day. They were a wealthy family - Caleb Bryant was an underwriter at Lloyd's and his father had been a banker in Exeter. His brothers' houses in the West end of London (his has gone) would would be worth millions. Cheers, Robyn On 15/07/2015 4:21 PM, Peter via wrote: > Looking at the baptism register their abode was 'Walworth' and Caleb Bryant > WAYMOUTH's occupation looks like 'Gentleman'. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Marie McCulloch via > Sent: 15 July 2015 1:43 AM > To: Robyn Waymouth; devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hi Robyn > > I was very interested in your information as I had Sophia Matilda's surname > as CORBRIDGE. > > I had no knowledge of Bryant WAYMOUTH but I do have their son Frederick > WAYMOUTH born 3 September 1824 and christened on > 7 October 1824 at Old St Pancras the same day as his brother Henry WAYMOUTH > who was born on 9 September 1822. > Frederick and died on 23 November 1884. Frederick married Lisca Gertrude > COLNAGHI on 28 October 1854. > > My interest is through the Colnaghi family. > > I noted that when Caleb and Sophia's daughter Caroline Matilda (Metilda) was > christened in 1820 that the father's name was given name as Bryant and not > Caleb. > > If Caroline was Bryant's sister it is possible that on his death someone has > mistakenly thought his mother's name was also Caroline. > > As Bryant gave his age as 25 on the 1841 census he could actually have been > as old as 29 years. > > Never believe anything you read in the papers especially the older ones as I > have found they are so misleading. > > Regards > Marie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyn Waymouth via > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:42 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Birth of Bryant WAYMOUTH c.1816 > > Hi Folks, > > I can't find any formal record of Bryant WAYMOUTH's birth. I hunted for > this a few years ago and it's time to have another look, as we've just had > his grave restored here in Melbourne. Unfortunately the text is almost worn > away. > > *An old family document (known to have errors) says he was born 1 January > 1815, parents Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda nee COLERIDGE. She > is said to be the daughter of Colonel COLERIDGE and niece of the Marquis of > Anglesey. > > *The 1841 census says he was born 1816. > > *His Victorian death certificate says his mother was Caroline nee COLERIDGE > and that he was born in London. His first daughter is Caroline Matilda and > the name Caroline is used in the next two generations, although never > before. > > *Caleb Bryant WAYMOUTH and Sophia Matilda COLERIDGE married 10 November > 1819, St Giles in the Field, Middlesex, she as a spinster, he as a bachelor. > > *Caleb BRYANT of Taunton Somerset was his maternal grandfather. I've > wondered if young Bryant was illegitimate, or adopted, but would he have > been given his grandfather's name? > > I've subscribed to Find My Past, but can find nothing there and have in the > past searched Ancestry. If anyone can suggest where else I might look I'd > be very grateful. The Waymouths are an Exeter family who were moving to > London around this time, so Bryant's birth could be in either region. > > Regards, > > Robyn > Melbourne, Oz > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >