Good morning, Using Find my Past I have found Selina Francis WHITE dau. of Henry & Emma, of Seaton, he is a Draper. bapt. 22 Sep 1856 in Seaton & Beer, born 27 Aug 1856. Best wishes, Chris. -----Original Message----- From: ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> Sent: 02 November 2018 11:45 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: SELINA This could be her if she is the daughter of a relative of the Northleigh husband and my Gittisham wife forebear - that may be answer - - or she is a birth that I simply can't find baptism/birth records for (William and Sarah White, Northleigh & Gittisham) - I will keep your info on hand - thank you! Dark and cold Lora in Wisconsin PS sleuthing around in my notes yesterday, the Bible entry says: Selina White, 20 May 1856 - followed by the names and DOB's of my great grandmother and sibs On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:31 AM Elizabeth Howard via DEVON < devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi. She is living with her parents Harry and Emma White in Fore street > Seaton in the 1861 census. Harry is a draper and there are 5 children > including Selina plus 2 servants.
This could be her if she is the daughter of a relative of the Northleigh husband and my Gittisham wife forebear - that may be answer - - or she is a birth that I simply can't find baptism/birth records for (William and Sarah White, Northleigh & Gittisham) - I will keep your info on hand - thank you! Dark and cold Lora in Wisconsin PS sleuthing around in my notes yesterday, the Bible entry says: Selina White, 20 May 1856 - followed by the names and DOB's of my great grandmother and sibs On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:31 AM Elizabeth Howard via DEVON < devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi. She is living with her parents Harry and Emma White in Fore street > Seaton in the 1861 census. Harry is a draper and there are 5 children > including Selina plus 2 servants. > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hi. She is living with her parents Harry and Emma White in Fore street Seaton in the 1861 census. Harry is a draper and there are 5 children including Selina plus 2 servants. Sent from my iPhone
ps again Mike, miswrote: Sarah Hooper (not Alford - what was I thinking!) - they were all from Gittisham On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:13 PM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Lora > > I haven’t found anything about Selena, but are you absolutely sure that > Sarah AXFORD married William WHITE 11 Oct 1849? > > The Gittisham marriage P.R. has Sarah HOOPER marrying William WHITE of > Northleigh on that date. The banns from both parishes confirm the surnames. > > Best regards > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:50, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello List - > > > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually > from > > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of > my > > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no > luck > > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William > White > > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > > been a sister, etc? > > > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > > where else to search? > > Thanks for any help! > > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Sorry Lora but I didn’t see Sarah HOOPER in the original email, just Sarah ALFORD (not AXFORD as I put in my previous reply). Regards Mike Sent from my iPad > On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:50, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello List - > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually from > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of my > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no luck > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William White > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > been a sister, etc? > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > where else to search? > Thanks for any help! > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
forgot to say Mike - Sarah Hooper et al were from Gittisham. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:13 PM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Lora > > I haven’t found anything about Selena, but are you absolutely sure that > Sarah AXFORD married William WHITE 11 Oct 1849? > > The Gittisham marriage P.R. has Sarah HOOPER marrying William WHITE of > Northleigh on that date. The banns from both parishes confirm the surnames. > > Best regards > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:50, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello List - > > > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually > from > > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of > my > > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no > luck > > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William > White > > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > > been a sister, etc? > > > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > > where else to search? > > Thanks for any help! > > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hi Mike - Sarah Hooper is my ancestor and that is what I have - she married William White of Northleigh - I was originally thinking that Selena may have been a child of theirs, dates seem to fit fine, but can't find a record of baptism or birth..........so I thought maybe she is someone else. The Bible seemed like a nice sort of thing that a cousin might own or give to other cousins (great grandmother and sibs) - Selena would be approximately their ages - the Bible has been handed down to my Devon relatives from their father and grandfather - my current cousins do not know who Selena is. A wonderful challenge to figure out! Lora On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:13 PM Mike Rendle <northdevonrendle@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi Lora > > I haven’t found anything about Selena, but are you absolutely sure that > Sarah AXFORD married William WHITE 11 Oct 1849? > > The Gittisham marriage P.R. has Sarah HOOPER marrying William WHITE of > Northleigh on that date. The banns from both parishes confirm the surnames. > > Best regards > Mike Rendle > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:50, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello List - > > > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually > from > > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of > my > > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no > luck > > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William > White > > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > > been a sister, etc? > > > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > > where else to search? > > Thanks for any help! > > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hi Lora I haven’t found anything about Selena, but are you absolutely sure that Sarah AXFORD married William WHITE 11 Oct 1849? The Gittisham marriage P.R. has Sarah HOOPER marrying William WHITE of Northleigh on that date. The banns from both parishes confirm the surnames. Best regards Mike Rendle Sent from my iPad > On 1 Nov 2018, at 18:50, ziggy beseler <trempealeau2@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello List - > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually from > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of my > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no luck > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William White > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > been a sister, etc? > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > where else to search? > Thanks for any help! > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Sorry amend my last, date given is birth date, Bapt date is 22 Sep 1856 Terry On 01-Nov-18 18:49 PM, ziggy beseler wrote: > Hello List - > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually from > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of my > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no luck > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William White > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > been a sister, etc? > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > where else to search? > Thanks for any help! > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk Email address: chairman@devonfhs.org.uk Join from just £12 a year “Devon Family History Society’s strength lies in its local and specialist knowledge”
Thank you, Terry! On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:05 PM <tjleaman@gmail.com> wrote: > FMP has a Selina Frances White baptised 27 August 1856 in Seaton & Beer, > parents Henry & Emma. > > Terry > > > On 01-Nov-18 18:49 PM, ziggy beseler wrote: > > Hello List - > > > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually > from > > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of > my > > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no > luck > > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William > White > > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > > been a sister, etc? > > > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > > where else to search? > > Thanks for any help! > > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > -- > Chairman - Devon Family History Society > Registered Charity No. 282490 > Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk Email address: > chairman@devonfhs.org.uk > Join from just £12 a year > “Devon Family History Society’s strength lies in its local and specialist > knowledge” > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
FMP has a Selina Frances White baptised 27 August 1856 in Seaton & Beer, parents Henry & Emma. Terry On 01-Nov-18 18:49 PM, ziggy beseler wrote: > Hello List - > > I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible > with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her > birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of > Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually from > (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the > hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of my > great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. > > I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no luck > there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name > or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William White > (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have > been a sister, etc? > > Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea > where else to search? > Thanks for any help! > Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- Chairman - Devon Family History Society Registered Charity No. 282490 Web site: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk Email address: chairman@devonfhs.org.uk Join from just £12 a year “Devon Family History Society’s strength lies in its local and specialist knowledge”
Hello List - I am searching mightily for a Selena White - I have her name in a Bible with an 1856 date written next to her name - unknown if this is her birthday or some other date. The Bible resided in the vicinity of Payhembury, & Bradninch - unknown if this is where Selena is actually from (from East Devon) however, but it is where the Bible has resided in the hands of my relatives (Alfords) at Peterhayes - Selena has the names of my great grandmother and her sibs written in it along with their birthdays. I have been searching DFHS cd's for that Deanery and some others - no luck there or with LDS or census - whether "Selena" is this woman's first name or middle, I don't know. My forebear Sarah Alford married a William White (11 Oct 1849) from Northleigh - I was wondering whether Selena might have been a sister, etc? Anyone know of Selena White (maiden or married name?) or have an idea where else to search? Thanks for any help! Lora in sunny and chilly Wisconsin USA
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Jon I didn't want to go off topic so much, but for the record per Prof N.A.M. Rodger in his book Naval Records for Genealogists : Among the warrant officers the Boatswain, Cook, Purser, Gunner and Carpenter were distinguished as `standing officers', in principle warranted to a ship for her lifetime regardless of whether she were in commission or not &c. &c., and by me ; one shouldn't forget the men who actually carried out much of the day to day maintenance, their numbers depending on the rating of the vessel. Paul On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:15:05 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Paul > >There were only four people permanently employed on a ship laid up in ordinary (no matter how large it was): >The sailmaker, the gunner, the boatswain (for the rigging) and the carpenter. >Officers were on half pay (as were these warrant officers) awaiting a commission to a ship. The men were otherwise in the merchant trade (as indeed were many junior officers!). Nelson spent quite a lot of time in the merchant service in his early years as half pay was very little for a lieutenant without private income. The Navy regarded it as a means of their officers learning new skills and new places. BTW All commissioned officers got half pay when not employed. An admiral who was not going to be further employed became what was known as a yellow admiral and there are lists in TNA. This was a polite fiction to allow for newer officers to be employed rather than constantly snub the older ones by not appointing them to tasks their seniority would otherwise have entitled them to seek. Older captains were just expected to swallow their pride and accept they were no longer employable (got one of them in my family tree) and remain on half-pay until you died as a form of pension if >not otherwise granted one. They were called superannuated which chimes in with more modern terminology. > >Jon > >Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >From: Paul Benyon >Sent: 01 November 2018 09:01 >To: devon@rootsweb.com >Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions > > >And if you come across a naval pensioner's assessment you will find >that it is very similar, and rather interestingly, was assessed using >the lunar calendar, as was naval pay at one time, but for warrant >officers who started off life as ratings, periods spent on board ships >in ordinary (ie in reserve), in harbour, pensions were assessed at a >reduced rate compared with time spent serving on board sea-going >vessels, not forgetting that there were no shore establishments in >those days. > >Paul > >On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 03:48:58 +0000, you wrote: > >>Hi Joy, >> >>Good point. It appears to have been different in the Army, as I have a guy >>whose pension has been calculated based on the number of weeks at one rank >>plus the number at another, so all very complicated. >> >>Best wishes >> >>Mike >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] >>Sent: 31 October 2018 18:50 >>To: devon@rootsweb.com >>Cc: Joy Langdon >>Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions >> >>Hi Mike, >> >>If people are wondering why they have a naval ancestor and can't find >>pension records, can I just draw their attention to the National Archives >>information about the RN ratings pensions: >>http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/r >>oyal-navy-ratings-pensions/ >> >>Note that Paragraph 3 states "It was not until 1859 that pensions for >>service were granted automatically to all ratings who had served for 20 >>consecutive years in the Royal Navy. Up to 1859 there was no guarantee that >>a rating would receive a pension for service. Before then, pensions were >>rarely awarded to ratings unless they had been wounded or killed in action >>or on duty." >> >>Joy >>----Original message---- >>From : mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk >>Date : 30/10/2018 - 09:35 (GMT) >>To : devon@rootsweb.com >>Subject : [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: WILLS >> >>Hi Elizabeth, >> >>If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An >>Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich >>pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were >>called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would >>have applied at the time being discussed here. >> >>Best wishes >> >>Mike Gould >>Leicestershire >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>------------------------------------------ >>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>_______________________________________________ >>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>community >> >>_______________________________________________ >>------------------------------------------ >>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>_______________________________________________ >>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >50° 33' N, 2° 26' W >http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html
Hi Paul There were only four people permanently employed on a ship laid up in ordinary (no matter how large it was): The sailmaker, the gunner, the boatswain (for the rigging) and the carpenter. Officers were on half pay (as were these warrant officers) awaiting a commission to a ship. The men were otherwise in the merchant trade (as indeed were many junior officers!). Nelson spent quite a lot of time in the merchant service in his early years as half pay was very little for a lieutenant without private income. The Navy regarded it as a means of their officers learning new skills and new places. BTW All commissioned officers got half pay when not employed. An admiral who was not going to be further employed became what was known as a ‘yellow’ admiral and there are lists in TNA. This was a polite fiction to allow for newer officers to be employed rather than constantly snub the older ones by not appointing them to tasks their seniority would otherwise have ‘entitled’ them to seek. Older captains were just expected to swallow their pride and accept they were no longer employable (got one of them in my family tree) and remain on half-pay until you died as a form of pension if not otherwise granted one. They were called superannuated which chimes in with more modern terminology. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Paul Benyon Sent: 01 November 2018 09:01 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions And if you come across a naval pensioner's assessment you will find that it is very similar, and rather interestingly, was assessed using the lunar calendar, as was naval pay at one time, but for warrant officers who started off life as ratings, periods spent on board ships in ordinary (ie in reserve), in harbour, pensions were assessed at a reduced rate compared with time spent serving on board sea-going vessels, not forgetting that there were no shore establishments in those days. Paul On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 03:48:58 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Joy, > >Good point. It appears to have been different in the Army, as I have a guy >whose pension has been calculated based on the number of weeks at one rank >plus the number at another, so all very complicated. > >Best wishes > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] >Sent: 31 October 2018 18:50 >To: devon@rootsweb.com >Cc: Joy Langdon >Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions > >Hi Mike, > >If people are wondering why they have a naval ancestor and can't find >pension records, can I just draw their attention to the National Archives >information about the RN ratings pensions: >http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/r >oyal-navy-ratings-pensions/ > >Note that Paragraph 3 states "It was not until 1859 that pensions for >service were granted automatically to all ratings who had served for 20 >consecutive years in the Royal Navy. Up to 1859 there was no guarantee that >a rating would receive a pension for service. Before then, pensions were >rarely awarded to ratings unless they had been wounded or killed in action >or on duty." > >Joy >----Original message---- >From : mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk >Date : 30/10/2018 - 09:35 (GMT) >To : devon@rootsweb.com >Subject : [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: WILLS > >Hi Elizabeth, > >If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An >Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich >pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were >called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would >have applied at the time being discussed here. > >Best wishes > >Mike Gould >Leicestershire > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Being charitable to the Navy (not sure if I need to be!), if you had served on a ship you had a set of skills tat could be immediately transferred to the merchant marine where you could get paid a lot more than in the service of the crown. Hence, pensions were reserved for the injured and disabled-its worth remembering also that about 90% of injuries in the Royal Navy were from the heavy work (hernias), disease (scurvy, in particular)and from accidents (falls). You had to be very unlucky indeed to actually be hurt in a battle (on average that is). Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mike Gould Sent: 01 November 2018 03:49 To: joy.langdon@btinternet.com; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions Hi Joy, Good point. It appears to have been different in the Army, as I have a guy whose pension has been calculated based on the number of weeks at one rank plus the number at another, so all very complicated. Best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] Sent: 31 October 2018 18:50 To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Joy Langdon Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions Hi Mike, If people are wondering why they have a naval ancestor and can't find pension records, can I just draw their attention to the National Archives information about the RN ratings pensions: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/r oyal-navy-ratings-pensions/ Note that Paragraph 3 states "It was not until 1859 that pensions for service were granted automatically to all ratings who had served for 20 consecutive years in the Royal Navy. Up to 1859 there was no guarantee that a rating would receive a pension for service. Before then, pensions were rarely awarded to ratings unless they had been wounded or killed in action or on duty." Joy ----Original message---- From : mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk Date : 30/10/2018 - 09:35 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: WILLS Hi Elizabeth, If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would have applied at the time being discussed here. Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
And if you come across a naval pensioner's assessment you will find that it is very similar, and rather interestingly, was assessed using the lunar calendar, as was naval pay at one time, but for warrant officers who started off life as ratings, periods spent on board ships in ordinary (ie in reserve), in harbour, pensions were assessed at a reduced rate compared with time spent serving on board sea-going vessels, not forgetting that there were no shore establishments in those days. Paul On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 03:48:58 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Joy, > >Good point. It appears to have been different in the Army, as I have a guy >whose pension has been calculated based on the number of weeks at one rank >plus the number at another, so all very complicated. > >Best wishes > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] >Sent: 31 October 2018 18:50 >To: devon@rootsweb.com >Cc: Joy Langdon >Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions > >Hi Mike, > >If people are wondering why they have a naval ancestor and can't find >pension records, can I just draw their attention to the National Archives >information about the RN ratings pensions: >http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/r >oyal-navy-ratings-pensions/ > >Note that Paragraph 3 states "It was not until 1859 that pensions for >service were granted automatically to all ratings who had served for 20 >consecutive years in the Royal Navy. Up to 1859 there was no guarantee that >a rating would receive a pension for service. Before then, pensions were >rarely awarded to ratings unless they had been wounded or killed in action >or on duty." > >Joy >----Original message---- >From : mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk >Date : 30/10/2018 - 09:35 (GMT) >To : devon@rootsweb.com >Subject : [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: WILLS > >Hi Elizabeth, > >If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An >Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich >pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were >called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would >have applied at the time being discussed here. > >Best wishes > >Mike Gould >Leicestershire > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html
Hi Joy, Good point. It appears to have been different in the Army, as I have a guy whose pension has been calculated based on the number of weeks at one rank plus the number at another, so all very complicated. Best wishes Mike -----Original Message----- From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] Sent: 31 October 2018 18:50 To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Joy Langdon Subject: [DEV] Re: Naval pensions Hi Mike, If people are wondering why they have a naval ancestor and can't find pension records, can I just draw their attention to the National Archives information about the RN ratings pensions: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/r oyal-navy-ratings-pensions/ Note that Paragraph 3 states "It was not until 1859 that pensions for service were granted automatically to all ratings who had served for 20 consecutive years in the Royal Navy. Up to 1859 there was no guarantee that a rating would receive a pension for service. Before then, pensions were rarely awarded to ratings unless they had been wounded or killed in action or on duty." Joy ----Original message---- From : mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk Date : 30/10/2018 - 09:35 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: WILLS Hi Elizabeth, If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would have applied at the time being discussed here. Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Mike, If people are wondering why they have a naval ancestor and can't find pension records, can I just draw their attention to the National Archives information about the RN ratings pensions: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/royal-navy-ratings-pensions/ Note that Paragraph 3 states "It was not until 1859 that pensions for service were granted automatically to all ratings who had served for 20 consecutive years in the Royal Navy. Up to 1859 there was no guarantee that a rating would receive a pension for service. Before then, pensions were rarely awarded to ratings unless they had been wounded or killed in action or on duty." Joy ----Original message---- From : mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk Date : 30/10/2018 - 09:35 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: DEV] Re: WILLS Hi Elizabeth, If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would have applied at the time being discussed here. Best wishes Mike Gould Leicestershire
And a lot of those Greenwich pensioners can be found on-line in the National Archives under ADM29 eg a "google" as follows : National Archives ADM 29 Smith produced a number of answers including : ADM 29/4/318 Original page number: 318 George SMITH; Rank: Boatswain; Born: [Not Given]; Age on entry: [Not Given]; Dates served: 24 June 1805-9 September 1836; Date and Type of Application: Admiralty 17 September 1836 Paul On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:35:38 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Elizabeth, > >If we're talking about the Army or the Navy, then there were pensions. An Army pensioner was called a Chelsea pensioner and the navy had Greenwich pensioners. If they didn't actually live at Chelsea or Greenwich, they were called out-pensioners. This was true throughout the 19th century, so would have applied at the time being discussed here. > >Best wishes > >Mike Gould >Leicestershire > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elizabeth Howard [mailto:elizghoward@gmail.com] >Sent: 29 October 2018 23:03 >To: nvlv55@yahoo.com; devon@rootsweb.com >Subject: [DEV] DEV] Re: WILLS > >Hi. No such thing as a standard works pension in those days !! You worked , you got paid ; you didnt work , you didnt get paid . And given the Admiral in the Big House De la Fosse he probably was RN but Wills is a very populous name so you may have some difficulty isolating which he was. Unless you can find out which ships the Admiral served on and trust to luck that your pensioner was on the same ship . > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On 29 Oct 2018, at 17:15, nvlv55--- via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Elizabeth,Yes; that is the person. I thought he was an Ag Lab (farm) pensioner; but I will go the National Archives to look and see if he is there.Thank you and regards,Sandra Wills >> >> From: ELIZABETH HOWARD via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> >> To: Devon Rootsweb <devon@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: ELIZABETH HOWARD <elizgh@btinternet.com> >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:31 AM >> Subject: [DEV] WILLS >> >> If the Robert Wills aged 72 in the 1841 census for E Allington is the one you need, he is A Pensioner , which may be he is a naval pensioner and may be more traceable this way via the military archives .. try RN on the National Archives site On the E Allington site , link thank you from Joy, there are various transcriptions of bmb and quite a few Wills latterly . Very useful indeed. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community 50° 33' N, 2° 26' W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html