One more thing to add to Paul's and others research plan - if possible go to the local church service. As a stranger you will no doubt be asked where you are from and your name. Often, people who knew your ancestors descendants are still around. Diane - Western Australia On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 7:36 AM Jim Robbens <jameshrobbens@gmail.com> wrote: > Bill > > Just to add my three penny worth - you have had plenty of good advice but > one thing you should never do in Devon is choose "Shortest Route" from your > sat nav options. I did this last year on a trip home from Holsworthy via > Exeter and ended up in a myriad of single track roads in the back of beyond > (and through several farmyards) and got very frustrated. By all means go > for "No Motorways (Freeways)" but otherwise always choose "Quickest > Route". And believe me, you do need to hire a car (auto is best). > > Welcome to the UK. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Phillips via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 14 January 2019 15:03 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Cc: Bill Phillips <ncswufpack@yahoo.com> > Subject: [DEV] Genealogy Travel to Devon > > All, > I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. > Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule > tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include > Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. Thanks in advanceBill > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Bill Just to add my three penny worth - you have had plenty of good advice but one thing you should never do in Devon is choose "Shortest Route" from your sat nav options. I did this last year on a trip home from Holsworthy via Exeter and ended up in a myriad of single track roads in the back of beyond (and through several farmyards) and got very frustrated. By all means go for "No Motorways (Freeways)" but otherwise always choose "Quickest Route". And believe me, you do need to hire a car (auto is best). Welcome to the UK. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bill Phillips via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: 14 January 2019 15:03 To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bill Phillips <ncswufpack@yahoo.com> Subject: [DEV] Genealogy Travel to Devon All, I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. Thanks in advanceBill _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Brian, There are transcriptions of parish registers and census returns for Trusham at: http://www.trusham.com/ Joy ----Original message---- From : brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk Date : 15/01/2019 - 17:14 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Cc : brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk Subject : [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Hi Meg: I have for some time provided links from the GENUKI/Devon Thornbury parish page to the overall Thornbury Hamlets website, to its Gravestones Project, and to its individual hamlet pages, but had not realised and made clear that these pages provided such extensive historical information. I’ve now remedied this. Needless to say, if any other Devon parishes have such websites that GENUKI should, but doesn’t, link to, I’d be grateful to receive details so that I can remedy this. (In the early days of GENUKI/Devon, before the web grew so vast, I had the time to do systematic Google searches for all the nearly 500 Devon parishes in turn - but this was last century! :-) Cheers Brian Randell

Hi Terry: Thanks - I’ve added an appropriate note under Cemeteries in GENUKI/Devon/Plymouth. Cheers Brian On 13 Jan 2019, at 16:08, Terry Leaman via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com<mailto:devon@rootsweb.com>> wrote: Added today to the Members' Area of Devon Family History Society's website , just over 81,000 cremation entries for EFFORD Crematorium, Plymouth, available through the surname search. This marks the end of a very big project to index Weston Mill & Efford Cemetery records. A total of over 206,000 entries. HUGE thanks to all the volunteers involved in this project Terry _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com<http://ancestry.com> and our loyal RootsWeb community — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html

Thanks Brian, I have to say that I am a bit of an obsessive about posting things on the website that my husband and I built and manage for the village. We also produce the quarterly newsletter that appears as a pdf on the website. I am not aware of others that are so comprehensive but then I've not systematically looked. Meg Galley-Taylor s and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Meg: I have for some time provided links from the GENUKI/Devon Thornbury parish page to the overall Thornbury Hamlets website, to its Gravestones Project, and to its individual hamlet pages, but had not realised and made clear that these pages provided such extensive historical information. I’ve now remedied this. Needless to say, if any other Devon parishes have such websites that GENUKI should, but doesn’t, link to, I’d be grateful to receive details so that I can remedy this. (In the early days of GENUKI/Devon, before the web grew so vast, I had the time to do systematic Google searches for all the nearly 500 Devon parishes in turn - but this was last century! :-) Cheers Brian Randell On 15 Jan 2019, at 16:23, meg@taylor.it<mailto:meg@taylor.it> wrote: Good advice. Also don't forget to take some Photo ID as you may well need it to get a Readers' Ticket to use the records. Take a camera, you will probably have to buy a day licence to use it but it usually only a few pounds. I would also say check if the village has a website as we do www.thornburyhamlets.com<http://www.thornburyhamlets.com> and I have put lots of historic information on the site including a full list of all of the gravestones and who you will find where, transcriptions of the grave stones and a plan showing where the graves are. I did this after visiting a Cornish Church that had done it and it saved my hours of wasted time looking for a non-existent head stone. Be aware that most to your forebears will not have a headstone even though they are buried in the churchyard. I estimate from the Burial records that there are 10 to 20 times as many people buried in our graveyard as there are graves as they are re-used over time. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie <paul@hockie.co.uk<mailto:paul@hockie.co.uk>> Sent: 15 January 2019 15:34 To: devon@rootsweb.com<mailto:devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Quite a lot has been said about travelling around Devon. I would like to add something about the importance of having a detailed research plan before leaving home. There is nothing quite like arriving at an archive only to be told everything is on Findmypast etc.. My approach has always been: 1. Create a detailed research list. Who, what and where? There are too many distractions if you do not focus your research 2. Check the National Archive Discovery catalogue and the local archive online catalogues and identify the documents you want to view. Search for both the ancestor and the place. I usually cut and paste into a word document so I can arrive with a "shopping list". The sites will also cover registration and ordering procedures. 3. Use Google to search for local museums and libraries. Email and ask what they hold. This may include documents and artefacts about your ancestor or just an insight into life in the town. 4. If you are looking for an ancestral home. * Find the ancestor on a census and then look at the pages before and after. By listing the farms, cottages etc. you can see the enumerators route * Google the name of the farms, tenements and cottages. Many still exist. * Buy a large scale Ordnance Survey map of the area or try Bing UK. Also consider an 19c map from https://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ . With a bit of luck you will be able to find the ancestral home. * Use google earth to take a stroll round and see what is actually there today. 5. For churches check their websites. More and more rural churches seem to be only open on Sunday (and then not every Sunday). If you are looking for graves check Findmypast/DevonFHS burial registers to see if you are in with a chance. Not everyone has a gravestone but there are a few grave yards that have been indexed. Cheers Paul _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html

Good advice. Also don't forget to take some Photo ID as you may well need it to get a Readers' Ticket to use the records. Take a camera, you will probably have to buy a day licence to use it but it usually only a few pounds. I would also say check if the village has a website as we do www.thornburyhamlets.com and I have put lots of historic information on the site including a full list of all of the gravestones and who you will find where, transcriptions of the grave stones and a plan showing where the graves are. I did this after visiting a Cornish Church that had done it and it saved my hours of wasted time looking for a non-existent head stone. Be aware that most to your forebears will not have a headstone even though they are buried in the churchyard. I estimate from the Burial records that there are 10 to 20 times as many people buried in our graveyard as there are graves as they are re-used over time. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie <paul@hockie.co.uk> Sent: 15 January 2019 15:34 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Quite a lot has been said about travelling around Devon. I would like to add something about the importance of having a detailed research plan before leaving home. There is nothing quite like arriving at an archive only to be told everything is on Findmypast etc.. My approach has always been: 1. Create a detailed research list. Who, what and where? There are too many distractions if you do not focus your research 2. Check the National Archive Discovery catalogue and the local archive online catalogues and identify the documents you want to view. Search for both the ancestor and the place. I usually cut and paste into a word document so I can arrive with a "shopping list". The sites will also cover registration and ordering procedures. 3. Use Google to search for local museums and libraries. Email and ask what they hold. This may include documents and artefacts about your ancestor or just an insight into life in the town. 4. If you are looking for an ancestral home. * Find the ancestor on a census and then look at the pages before and after. By listing the farms, cottages etc. you can see the enumerators route * Google the name of the farms, tenements and cottages. Many still exist. * Buy a large scale Ordnance Survey map of the area or try Bing UK. Also consider an 19c map from https://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ . With a bit of luck you will be able to find the ancestral home. * Use google earth to take a stroll round and see what is actually there today. 5. For churches check their websites. More and more rural churches seem to be only open on Sunday (and then not every Sunday). If you are looking for graves check Findmypast/DevonFHS burial registers to see if you are in with a chance. Not everyone has a gravestone but there are a few grave yards that have been indexed. Cheers Paul _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi: Let me add one further item to Paul’s excellent list. If you have traced the ancestors of interest to particular parishes in Devon check the relevant parish pages in GENUKI/Devon. Though lots of the thousands of publications on, for example the parish and its history, that are listed in many of these pages are accompanied by indexes or transcripts, many are not - but the publications may well be available to you in one of the Devon Libraries, or at Tree House. So take a list of any of these that are of interest to you along with you. Cheers Brian On 15 Jan 2019, at 15:45, Caren Wilcox <carenwilco@starpower.net<mailto:carenwilco@starpower.net>> wrote: Thanks for these suggestions. They will help me get ready to travel to Devon. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie [mailto:paul@hockie.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:34 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com<mailto:devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Quite a lot has been said about travelling around Devon. I would like to add something about the importance of having a detailed research plan before leaving home. There is nothing quite like arriving at an archive only to be told everything is on Findmypast etc.. My approach has always been: 1. Create a detailed research list. Who, what and where? There are too many distractions if you do not focus your research 2. Check the National Archive Discovery catalogue and the local archive online catalogues and identify the documents you want to view. Search for both the ancestor and the place. I usually cut and paste into a word document so I can arrive with a "shopping list". The sites will also cover registration and ordering procedures. 3. Use Google to search for local museums and libraries. Email and ask what they hold. This may include documents and artefacts about your ancestor or just an insight into life in the town. 4. If you are looking for an ancestral home. * Find the ancestor on a census and then look at the pages before and after. By listing the farms, cottages etc. you can see the enumerators route * Google the name of the farms, tenements and cottages. Many still exist. * Buy a large scale Ordnance Survey map of the area or try Bing UK. Also consider an 19c map from https://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ . With a bit of luck you will be able to find the ancestral home. * Use google earth to take a stroll round and see what is actually there today. 5. For churches check their websites. More and more rural churches seem to be only open on Sunday (and then not every Sunday). If you are looking for graves check Findmypast/DevonFHS burial registers to see if you are in with a chance. Not everyone has a gravestone but there are a few grave yards that have been indexed. Cheers Paul _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html

Thanks for these suggestions. They will help me get ready to travel to Devon. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hockie [mailto:paul@hockie.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:34 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Quite a lot has been said about travelling around Devon. I would like to add something about the importance of having a detailed research plan before leaving home. There is nothing quite like arriving at an archive only to be told everything is on Findmypast etc.. My approach has always been: 1. Create a detailed research list. Who, what and where? There are too many distractions if you do not focus your research 2. Check the National Archive Discovery catalogue and the local archive online catalogues and identify the documents you want to view. Search for both the ancestor and the place. I usually cut and paste into a word document so I can arrive with a "shopping list". The sites will also cover registration and ordering procedures. 3. Use Google to search for local museums and libraries. Email and ask what they hold. This may include documents and artefacts about your ancestor or just an insight into life in the town. 4. If you are looking for an ancestral home. * Find the ancestor on a census and then look at the pages before and after. By listing the farms, cottages etc. you can see the enumerators route * Google the name of the farms, tenements and cottages. Many still exist. * Buy a large scale Ordnance Survey map of the area or try Bing UK. Also consider an 19c map from https://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ . With a bit of luck you will be able to find the ancestral home. * Use google earth to take a stroll round and see what is actually there today. 5. For churches check their websites. More and more rural churches seem to be only open on Sunday (and then not every Sunday). If you are looking for graves check Findmypast/DevonFHS burial registers to see if you are in with a chance. Not everyone has a gravestone but there are a few grave yards that have been indexed. Cheers Paul _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Quite a lot has been said about travelling around Devon. I would like to add something about the importance of having a detailed research plan before leaving home. There is nothing quite like arriving at an archive only to be told everything is on Findmypast etc.. My approach has always been: 1. Create a detailed research list. Who, what and where? There are too many distractions if you do not focus your research 2. Check the National Archive Discovery catalogue and the local archive online catalogues and identify the documents you want to view. Search for both the ancestor and the place. I usually cut and paste into a word document so I can arrive with a "shopping list". The sites will also cover registration and ordering procedures. 3. Use Google to search for local museums and libraries. Email and ask what they hold. This may include documents and artefacts about your ancestor or just an insight into life in the town. 4. If you are looking for an ancestral home. * Find the ancestor on a census and then look at the pages before and after. By listing the farms, cottages etc. you can see the enumerators route * Google the name of the farms, tenements and cottages. Many still exist. * Buy a large scale Ordnance Survey map of the area or try Bing UK. Also consider an 19c map from https://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ . With a bit of luck you will be able to find the ancestral home. * Use google earth to take a stroll round and see what is actually there today. 5. For churches check their websites. More and more rural churches seem to be only open on Sunday (and then not every Sunday). If you are looking for graves check Findmypast/DevonFHS burial registers to see if you are in with a chance. Not everyone has a gravestone but there are a few grave yards that have been indexed. Cheers Paul

Further to this, post codes can often mislead on Satnavs as well so check with the place you are going to as to whether their post code works on Satnav. Ours does but it does cover about a mile of lane and 6 properties, but I have been seriously mislead by some in the past so I always ask and tell others that ours can be relied on. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Sue via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 January 2019 10:20 To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Sue <sstoneman@btinternet.com> Subject: [DEV] Re: UK genealogical touring Another rule for touring in Devon and Cornwall. The sat nav is not always right and can quite often lead you down single track roads with grass growing up the middle. If you meet another vehicle we find some people cannot reverse. Best to keep to a and B roads. Sent from my iPad > On 15 Jan 2019, at 10:11, Mike Mallett via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Just my thoughts > > Car - allow plenty of time for travelling on country roads > > Rail - although the system is limited rail rover tickets might be > worthwhile for some see > http://railrover.org/pages/devon-day-ranger.html and more > http://railrover.org/ > > Phone - if you expect to make a few UK calls get a UK SIM though > coverage may be limited in remoter areas > > For those venturing off the beaten track there are military firing ranges on Dartmoor so look out for the red flags! > > > Mike >

Another rule for touring in Devon and Cornwall. The sat nav is not always right and can quite often lead you down single track roads with grass growing up the middle. If you meet another vehicle we find some people cannot reverse. Best to keep to a and B roads. Sent from my iPad > On 15 Jan 2019, at 10:11, Mike Mallett via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Just my thoughts > > Car - allow plenty of time for travelling on country roads > > Rail - although the system is limited rail rover tickets might be worthwhile for some see http://railrover.org/pages/devon-day-ranger.html and more http://railrover.org/ > > Phone - if you expect to make a few UK calls get a UK SIM though coverage may be limited in remoter areas > > For those venturing off the beaten track there are military firing ranges on Dartmoor so look out for the red flags! > > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Just my thoughts Car - allow plenty of time for travelling on country roads Rail - although the system is limited rail rover tickets might be worthwhile for some see http://railrover.org/pages/devon-day-ranger.html and more http://railrover.org/ Phone - if you expect to make a few UK calls get a UK SIM though coverage may be limited in remoter areas For those venturing off the beaten track there are military firing ranges on Dartmoor so look out for the red flags! Mike

Hi everyone, Marg’s list of ‘rules for gene travel’ is excellent. If you take only one thing away from it remember 'Check Opening Times of Venues’. These change from time to time and occasionally you need to book a space if it’s a tiny record office. Note - someone on this thread mentioned Cornwall: Cornwall Record Office is shut at present pending a move to new premises. It’s re-opening sometime this year but no date yet. Devon Record Office is a delight although rather tricky to find. Happy Hunting Angela in deepest Kent. > On 15 Jan 2019, at 12:25 am, margmansfield <margmansfield@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > Hi All, > > We toured England and Scotland last year for family research and hired a car as he likes driving but finds the steps, stairs and walking distances in public transport difficult. He checked if his Aussie disabled parking sign would work before we left and it does. We frequently found disabled bays outside places we wanted to visit and some public car parks were free. > > Using Aribnb meant we stayed with locals in places without stairs or showers over baths, plus power next to beds and on planes for his CPAP. The Jubilee tube line in London has no stairs, just lifts and escalators. Visiting Hampton Court Palace and Windsor Castle was delightful as staff took us through staff only sections between wings and in staff lifts between floors. At the latter he paid the disabled fee and I was free as his attendant. We didn't ask but when purchasing tickets they noticed his walking stick and medi alert bracelet, so we were met at the end of each section and escorted to the next section. > > Hire companies don't ask Aussies how far they are likely to travel but just before Exeter the red maintanance light came on so we detoured to Exeter Airport and inquired about changing cars. The Greek attendant had never swapped over cars before but with a short phone call it was arranged, luggage transferred and we drove out in an identical car to continue our trip. > > Rules for gene travel: > Take evidence of membership of home Family History/Genealogical Society > Do your homework at home so you visit correct locations. > Check opening times of venues. > Locate your ancestors in correct historical settings. > Take a copy of your research on paper and or laptop computer. > Add primary and or secondary sources all records. > Use your photo or camera to record documents as scanners are not usually allowed. > Take food and use lunch rooms with a cuppa. > Leave a donation for assistance given. > Happy Hunting. > Marg. > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Folks; I don't usually respond to these threads, but perhaps my own experiences may be of some assistance. Having undertaken a number of genie trips to Devon, to contemplate public transport is extremely optimistic! Quite honestly, the only way to get around is by hire car. As somebody who has quite a deal of experience driving on both sides of the road, I believe the hardest thing our U.S. cousins would find is performing a left-hand turn from one road to another. Take it quiet and concentrate. Never do it alone - have another pair of eyes in the vehicle to yell at you when you drift over to the wrong side of the road. Definitely have an up-to-date SATNAV with you. Most, if not all, of the hire car companies have them available - I have always carried my own with up-to-date maps, etc., and it has certainly saved my marriage on several occasions - especially when trying to navigate in and around Exeter. Most SATNAVs also have the option of deselecting freeways/motorways, etc. Selecting "Freeways OFF" means the SATNAV will take you through some delightful little villages/hamlets - allow a little extra time to the journey for this. Organizing one's self in advance is well worth the effort. Enjoy the trip. Len Heyward

Great advice Marg....there are many places still on our bucket list, things to do and places to go, but it does get harder as we age. I've already learned that we can't run through airports anymore, and so I request wheelchair assistance to be sure we don't overdo and make our flight on tight connections. Your advice for researching while traveling is excellent. Many Thanks! Audrey in North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: margmansfield [mailto:margmansfield@iinet.net.au] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:26 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] UK genealogical touring Hi All, We toured England and Scotland last year for family research and hired a car as he likes driving but finds the steps, stairs and walking distances in public transport difficult. He checked if his Aussie disabled parking sign would work before we left and it does. We frequently found disabled bays outside places we wanted to visit and some public car parks were free. Using Aribnb meant we stayed with locals in places without stairs or showers over baths, plus power next to beds and on planes for his CPAP. The Jubilee tube line in London has no stairs, just lifts and escalators. Visiting Hampton Court Palace and Windsor Castle was delightful as staff took us through staff only sections between wings and in staff lifts between floors. At the latter he paid the disabled fee and I was free as his attendant. We didn't ask but when purchasing tickets they noticed his walking stick and medi alert bracelet, so we were met at the end of each section and escorted to the next section. Hire companies don't ask Aussies how far they are likely to travel but just before Exeter the red maintanance light came on so we detoured to Exeter Airport and inquired about changing cars. The Greek attendant had never swapped over cars before but with a short phone call it was arranged, luggage transferred and we drove out in an identical car to continue our trip. Rules for gene travel: Take evidence of membership of home Family History/Genealogical Society Do your homework at home so you visit correct locations. Check opening times of venues. Locate your ancestors in correct historical settings. Take a copy of your research on paper and or laptop computer. Add primary and or secondary sources all records. Use your photo or camera to record documents as scanners are not usually allowed. Take food and use lunch rooms with a cuppa. Leave a donation for assistance given. Happy Hunting. Marg. _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Wonderful Frances! Many thanks. I do want to include Wales, either when we visit Devon and Cornwall, or on another trip. Have always wanted to see Wales. It is quite possible that my WILLIAMS line, which has been tracked back to WILLEMS in 1600s in The Netherlands, has older roots in the British Isles...may well have been Wales. DNA is helping answer some questions. But we have wanted to visit Wales just because it is historic and beautiful. My husband's secretary for awhile while working in Saudi Arabia was a Mary Considine who had a home in Wales. But that was many years ago. I think Mary retired and left to return to Wales about 1988 to 1990 timeframe. She had a farm where he Mother was still living, and she had a shepherd to help her. We've lost touch about 15 or so years ago. I will likely be asking you some questions later. Many thanks! Audrey in North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: FMB [mailto:pilgrimsprogress@bunyanclan.co.uk] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:01 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon With Wales being mentioned for travel, while I'm no expert I now live in Wales, Caerphilly which is north of Cardiff. So if this is the area of travel please don't hesitate to ask, I will answer if I can, but with one of my daughters and her partner working for the Welsh government, I'm sure I can find out something from them. Happy hunting and travelling, Frances _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Elizabeth, likely a private car will be the best. Not to worry, I wasn't put off. Lord knows after living 20 years in the Middle East and trips to Kenya, Tanzania, China, Syria and more, Devon will be like Versailles, lol. -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Howard [mailto:elizghoward@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:59 PM To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Hi I love Sher’s vivid description of the primitive natives and their antiquated systems. !! Don’t be put off !! In comparison with the US all our towns and one city in Devon are designed around the private car. That , if it was me , is the way I would go. Either a hire car or private car and driver . Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Jan 2019, at 19:09, Sher Leetooze <sher.leetooze@gmail.com> wrote: > > Angela is perfectly correct - the public transit in Devon (and many other areas of UK) is absolutely horrid - they should be ashamed to invite visitors to their country. Anyway, a car is definitely the way to go. It would be advantageous to fly into Exeter if you can find an airline that will go there. We used to be able to fly into Exeter with Transat, but not anymore. We fly into another UK airport and take an internal airline down to Exeter - usually Flyby. Then the bus from the airport to downtown goes right past the Exeter Record Office where you can start a preliminary search for your people. Be aware that the archives does not have lunch facilities - vending machines only (Uck!!) There used to be a restaurant across the street that was so expensive we couldn't afford to go inside the door - hamburger and fries £12 - that's nearly $25!!!! > > Car is your best bet but take a bus into Exeter if you are going to the Record Office - finding one's way through the street to the DRO would be tricky by car. > > Then there are private people who take you in their own cars where ever you want to go - they specialize in car tours of their own areas. Do a Google search for "Private tours in Devon" to see a selection. Some one on the list may even respond with some names for you of people they have used in the past. > > Wear your flag pin to identify yourself. People seem to speak more clearly and more slowly if they know you are foreign - the Devon accent is very heavy in those areas you mentioned - difficult to understand them when asking directions and the like. > > Bring your paperwork with you. If you stop someone to ask if they know xxxxx place, you might find they know the people who live there now and would get a great kick out of looking at your work. I've found great people this way - some have become lifelong friends who are constantly still helping me with my genealogy!! > > Don't bring large denomination bills with you - most of these small places have no bank and hesitate to change large denominations in the local shops. £5, £10 and £20 notes are the best. I usually stick with just £5 & £10 notes. > > Good Luck with your trip! > > Sher > > > >> On 1/14/2019 11:35 AM, ANGELA MARKS via DEVON wrote: >> Hi Bill >> >> One piece of advice I always give visitors from the States and >> Canada: if you're hiring a car, specify an automatic (unless you're >> used to driving a manual, which I've found few Americans are) >> >> Most car hire companies lease manual transmission cars as standard, but if you're not used to them it can be pretty traumatic, bearing in mind that you'll have a driving seat on the right and you'll be driving on the left of the road! >> >> You'll also be driving on and around Dartmoor, some of the roads aren't great, and in the summer it'll be very busy. >> >> You'll need a car, there are no longer any train services to any of the places you mention. Chudleigh has an hourly bus service to Newton Abbot (mainline rail station), but Bridestowe has a less frequent service (roughly every 2 hours) from Okehampton, while Dunsford has a two hourly service from Exeter or Moretonhampstead going the other way. >> >> Have a good visit >> >> Angela in Exmouth >> >> >> >> ----Original message---- >> From : devon@rootsweb.com >> Date : 14/01/2019 - 15:02 (GMT) >> To : devon@rootsweb.com >> Cc : ncswufpack@yahoo.com >> Subject : [DEV] Genealogy Travel to Devon >> >> All, >> I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. >> Thanks in advanceBill >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi All, We toured England and Scotland last year for family research and hired a car as he likes driving but finds the steps, stairs and walking distances in public transport difficult. He checked if his Aussie disabled parking sign would work before we left and it does. We frequently found disabled bays outside places we wanted to visit and some public car parks were free. Using Aribnb meant we stayed with locals in places without stairs or showers over baths, plus power next to beds and on planes for his CPAP. The Jubilee tube line in London has no stairs, just lifts and escalators. Visiting Hampton Court Palace and Windsor Castle was delightful as staff took us through staff only sections between wings and in staff lifts between floors. At the latter he paid the disabled fee and I was free as his attendant. We didn't ask but when purchasing tickets they noticed his walking stick and medi alert bracelet, so we were met at the end of each section and escorted to the next section. Hire companies don't ask Aussies how far they are likely to travel but just before Exeter the red maintanance light came on so we detoured to Exeter Airport and inquired about changing cars. The Greek attendant had never swapped over cars before but with a short phone call it was arranged, luggage transferred and we drove out in an identical car to continue our trip. Rules for gene travel: Take evidence of membership of home Family History/Genealogical Society Do your homework at home so you visit correct locations. Check opening times of venues. Locate your ancestors in correct historical settings. Take a copy of your research on paper and or laptop computer. Add primary and or secondary sources all records. Use your photo or camera to record documents as scanners are not usually allowed. Take food and use lunch rooms with a cuppa. Leave a donation for assistance given. Happy Hunting. Marg.

With Wales being mentioned for travel, while I'm no expert I now live in Wales, Caerphilly which is north of Cardiff. So if this is the area of travel please don't hesitate to ask, I will answer if I can, but with one of my daughters and her partner working for the Welsh government, I'm sure I can find out something from them. Happy hunting and travelling, Frances