Morning I can see that I am a bit rusty of late as I do not seem to be able to find the overall Surname Index on Genuki [there is one for Periodicals] or my Index to People from Devon in Australian Newspapers. I wanted to see if the following entry was in the Newspapers that I had transcibed. I found in Trove Newspapers, a marriage entry in Adelaide, SA for Ernest Gerves CRESPIN, s/o Alexander A. CRESPIN of Devon. A little research shows Alexander Andrews CRESPIN was bapt at Littleham in 1847 His wife Julia Amphillis Barnes McGEE died in Qld in 1925 http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/item/3303/ Regards Bev

Just to add that Google Maps has public transport, cycling and walking options as well as driving. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Caren Wilcox [mailto:carenwilco@starpower.net] Sent: 17 January 2019 17:34 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 I certainly agree with you. Locally I use google maps or other mobile maps, but there is nothing like a paper map for planning a route, seeing what is nearby to a destination. One can miss a lot by being centered on one destination and missing the neighboring environment or a short detour to see someone or something. But I took geography in school, and they don't teach it much anymore. Caren -----Original Message----- From: Our Mail [mailto:ourmail@chez-williams.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:41 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 Perhaps it's a generational thing, or a sad reflection on our educational systems. Technology is useful - until it's not there and the brain is required to function. I've toured in the US (46 States) most of western Europe, W Africa and Australia with the aid of paper maps, and am still married to my co-pilot after over 50 years!!!!!! I've said my piece, so now back to tracing my Devon roots. John On 17/01/2019 11:03 am, Len Heyward wrote: > Spot on Marg. Map reading is not a skill understood by a significant > portion of the population - getting it wrong can cause aggravation and > disputes, etc. SATNAV helps to alleviate most of these issues. I never use > hard-copy maps anymore while touring. > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: margmansfield <margmansfield@iinet.net.au> > Sent: 17 January, 2019 12:31 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 > > Yes John, > > You always need a map but a Satnav allows the passenger/navigator to view > the surroundings instead of just watching the map and continually checking > signs, mileage and location markers. > > Marg. > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I certainly agree with you. Locally I use google maps or other mobile maps, but there is nothing like a paper map for planning a route, seeing what is nearby to a destination. One can miss a lot by being centered on one destination and missing the neighboring environment or a short detour to see someone or something. But I took geography in school, and they don't teach it much anymore. Caren -----Original Message----- From: Our Mail [mailto:ourmail@chez-williams.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:41 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 Perhaps it's a generational thing, or a sad reflection on our educational systems. Technology is useful - until it's not there and the brain is required to function. I've toured in the US (46 States) most of western Europe, W Africa and Australia with the aid of paper maps, and am still married to my co-pilot after over 50 years!!!!!! I've said my piece, so now back to tracing my Devon roots. John On 17/01/2019 11:03 am, Len Heyward wrote: > Spot on Marg. Map reading is not a skill understood by a significant > portion of the population - getting it wrong can cause aggravation and > disputes, etc. SATNAV helps to alleviate most of these issues. I never use > hard-copy maps anymore while touring. > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: margmansfield <margmansfield@iinet.net.au> > Sent: 17 January, 2019 12:31 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 > > Yes John, > > You always need a map but a Satnav allows the passenger/navigator to view > the surroundings instead of just watching the map and continually checking > signs, mileage and location markers. > > Marg. > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

FMP shows a baptism in 1746 in MEAVY, Devon. Might be worth investigating? Andrew On Thursday, 17 January 2019, 09:14:49 GMT, Our Mail <ourmail@chez-williams.com> wrote: I haven't posted a query about the above, my 4g grandfather, for some time.  I live in hope that someone can help me find his parents. The earliest mention I have found of this ancestor was at the National Archives.  He was in the muster books of HMS Ocean from September 1776 when he was described as aged 27 from 'Mary Devon'!  On a couple of visits to Exeter I searched in the record office for all the parishes in Devon I could find containing Mary, and also enlisted the help of DFHS volunteers in the Tree House.    No sign of Charles.  He married Jane Wootton in Charles Church, Plymouth on 20 March 1778.  In that record he was to shown to be of HMS Ocean. One interesting fact from the muster book in 1776.  In the column headed 'Prest or not' was entered 'in lieu'. So it would seem that he volunteered to take the place of someone who had been seized by the Press Gang.  That may suggest he wanted to get away from someone/something! John _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/   and  Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I haven't posted a query about the above, my 4g grandfather, for some time.  I live in hope that someone can help me find his parents. The earliest mention I have found of this ancestor was at the National Archives.  He was in the muster books of HMS Ocean from September 1776 when he was described as aged 27 from 'Mary Devon'!  On a couple of visits to Exeter I searched in the record office for all the parishes in Devon I could find containing Mary, and also enlisted the help of DFHS volunteers in the Tree House.    No sign of Charles.  He married Jane Wootton in Charles Church, Plymouth on 20 March 1778.  In that record he was to shown to be of HMS Ocean. One interesting fact from the muster book in 1776.  In the column headed 'Prest or not' was entered 'in lieu'. So it would seem that he volunteered to take the place of someone who had been seized by the Press Gang.  That may suggest he wanted to get away from someone/something! John

Perhaps it's a generational thing, or a sad reflection on our educational systems. Technology is useful - until it's not there and the brain is required to function.  I've toured in the US (46 States) most of western Europe, W Africa and Australia with the aid of paper maps, and am still married to my co-pilot after over 50 years!!!!!!  I've said my piece, so now back to tracing my Devon roots. John On 17/01/2019 11:03 am, Len Heyward wrote: > Spot on Marg. Map reading is not a skill understood by a significant > portion of the population - getting it wrong can cause aggravation and > disputes, etc. SATNAV helps to alleviate most of these issues. I never use > hard-copy maps anymore while touring. > > Len Heyward > > > -----Original Message----- > From: margmansfield <margmansfield@iinet.net.au> > Sent: 17 January, 2019 12:31 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 > > Yes John, > > You always need a map but a Satnav allows the passenger/navigator to view > the surroundings instead of just watching the map and continually checking > signs, mileage and location markers. > > Marg. > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Spot on Marg. Map reading is not a skill understood by a significant portion of the population - getting it wrong can cause aggravation and disputes, etc. SATNAV helps to alleviate most of these issues. I never use hard-copy maps anymore while touring. Len Heyward -----Original Message----- From: margmansfield <margmansfield@iinet.net.au> Sent: 17 January, 2019 12:31 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: DEVON Digest, Vol 14, Issue 14 Yes John, You always need a map but a Satnav allows the passenger/navigator to view the surroundings instead of just watching the map and continually checking signs, mileage and location markers. Marg. _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Just another tip - I visited the Bridford churchyard some years ago and found several of my Dymond family graves. I photographed them all and went away happy. I revisited a couple of years later and had another look at a particularly good family plot I had seen before with several burials. For some reason I went around the back of the headstone and was amazed to find the best part of the rest of the family carved on the rear which I had missed during the earlier visit. Moral of this story - always look at the backside of headstones. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Muir <lyndamuir23@gmail.com> Sent: 16 January 2019 02:16 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Hi, Bill Let me share some (non-family-history-related) tips / highlights from my trip to East Devon in July 2018. I travelled alone and was determined to spare England the spectre of me driving on the "wrong" side, so I used only local buses and trains. Quite successfully. Still, in a car you can get to places off the bus routes, and fit more into a day. For fun, check out: -- Bus tours of Dartmoor, including the "Haytor Hoppa." -- The "Cathedral of the Moors" in Widecombe. -- "Red Coat" themed walking tours of Exeter. -- Devon cream tea at the Tea Room on the Green near Exeter Cathedral. -- An excursion by train from Exeter down one side of the Exe Estuary and up the other, including: Topsham (birdwatching at the marsh), Lympstone (gem of an ice-cream parlour), ferry from Exmouth to Starcross, seawall walk to Dawlish. -- The Donkey Sanctuary near Sidmouth (a not-to-be-missed seaside town). -- A 3-mile walk over the cliffs from Beer, past Beer Head, to the charming village of Branscombe. -- The Honiton (All Hallows) Lace Museum and the Ploughman's Lunch at the Lacemakers Cafe. Likely you weren't looking for such frivolous suggestions on a website devoted to genealogy. But I feel the others have that base covered. Of especial value from my point of view were Paul's recommendations about being as prepared as possible, right down to locating ancestral homesteads on maps (such as Google Streetmap). There's preparation, and then there's the joy of accidental discovery. I wish you both! Lynda, Ottawa On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 10:04 AM Bill Phillips via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com wrote: > All, > I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. > Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule > tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include > Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. > Thanks in advanceBill > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi everyone, Another highlight of Devon is the steam train from Paignton to Kingswear and then the ferry to Dartmouth - train is called the Dartmouth Steam Railway, one can get off the train at a Greenway Halt station and visit Agatha Christie's home 'Greenway House'. Also, don't forget Brixham - great boat ride from Brixham to Torquay and return, my home stamping ground - wonderful memories of a blissful childhood living near the sea. Happy hunting, Annette WATSON Lismore 2480 Australia At 01:15 PM 16/01/2019, you wrote: >Hi, Bill > >Let me share some (non-family-history-related) tips / highlights from my >trip to East Devon in July 2018. I travelled alone and was determined to >spare England the spectre of me driving on the "wrong" side, so I used only >local buses and trains. Quite successfully. Still, in a car you can get to >places off the bus routes, and fit more into a day. For fun, check out: > >-- Bus tours of Dartmoor, including the "Haytor Hoppa." >-- The "Cathedral of the Moors" in Widecombe. >-- "Red Coat" themed walking tours of Exeter. >-- Devon cream tea at the Tea Room on the Green near Exeter Cathedral. >-- An excursion by train from Exeter down one side of the Exe Estuary and >up the other, including: Topsham (birdwatching at the marsh), Lympstone >(gem of an ice-cream parlour), ferry from Exmouth to Starcross, seawall >walk to Dawlish. >-- The Donkey Sanctuary near Sidmouth (a not-to-be-missed seaside town). >-- A 3-mile walk over the cliffs from Beer, past Beer Head, to the charming >village of Branscombe. >-- The Honiton (All Hallows) Lace Museum and the Ploughman's Lunch at the >Lacemakers Cafe. > >Likely you weren't looking for such frivolous suggestions on a website >devoted to genealogy. But I feel the others have that base covered. Of >especial value from my point of view were Paul's recommendations about >being as prepared as possible, right down to locating ancestral homesteads >on maps (such as Google Streetmap). There's preparation, and then there's >the joy of accidental discovery. I wish you both! > >Lynda, Ottawa > > > >On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 10:04 AM Bill Phillips via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com >wrote: > > > All, > > I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. > > Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule > > tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include > > Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. > > Thanks in advanceBill > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >RootsWeb community

Dear Joy Links are now provided in GENUKI/Devon's Trusham page under Description and Travel, Census and Church records. Many thanks Cheers Brian PS Everyone - if you know of similar useful local websites for other Devon parishes that are not yet included in GENUKI/Devon please let me know. Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Jan 2019, at 23:15, Joy Langdon via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > There are transcriptions of parish registers and census returns for Trusham at: > http://www.trusham.com/ > > Joy > > ----Original message---- > From : brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk > Date : 15/01/2019 - 17:14 (GMT) > To : devon@rootsweb.com > Cc : brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk > Subject : [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon > > Hi Meg: > > I have for some time provided links from the GENUKI/Devon Thornbury parish page to the overall Thornbury Hamlets website, to its Gravestones Project, and to its individual hamlet pages, but had not realised and made clear that these pages provided such extensive historical information. I’ve now remedied this. > > Needless to say, if any other Devon parishes have such websites that GENUKI should, but doesn’t, link to, I’d be grateful to receive details so that I can remedy this. (In the early days of GENUKI/Devon, before the web grew so vast, I had the time to do systematic Google searches for all the nearly 500 Devon parishes in turn - but this was last century! :-) > > Cheers > > Brian Randell > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community — School of Computing, Newcastle University, 1 Science Square, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE4 5TG EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = http://www.ncl.ac.uk/computing/people/profile/brianrandell.html

Yes John, You always need a map but a Satnav allows the passenger/navigator to view the surroundings instead of just watching the map and continually checking signs, mileage and location markers. Marg.

Hi Lynda, You reminded me of our wonderful day at the Donkey Sanctuary. Such a wonderful caring haven where we bought beautiful Christmas cards and saw the Poitou donkeys. Marg.

Reminder: Just a reminder to N. American travellers who use GPS (Global Positioning System). This is similar to SatNav used in Britain. Happy travellin' Edna - snowy Ottawa

and in Branscombe, a visit to the Mason's Arms is a must!! *Peter J Ashford* *E: brabazon10@gmail.com <brabazon10@gmail.com>* *M: +64 [0] 27 3248404* *P.O. Box 349* *Shortland St* *Auckland, NZ * <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 9:19 PM ANGELA MARKS via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Seeing the reference to the train trip round the Exe estuary reminds me > of a sad little tale. > > A cousin of mine was visiting from Australia, staying in Exmouth where our > joint ancestors lived. She was coming to see me in Dawlish, so I suggested > she travel by train. > > Alas, however, there was a heavy sea mist , so there was no view at all on > the way to me - or on the way back, it was the only day I'd ever recalled > such a heavy mist lasting all day. > > Should be OK in July though! > > Angela in Exmouth > > ----Original message---- > From : lyndamuir23@gmail.com > Date : 16/01/2019 - 02:15 (GMT) > To : devon@rootsweb.com > Subject : [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon > > Hi, Bill > > Let me share some (non-family-history-related) tips / highlights from my > trip to East Devon in July 2018. I travelled alone and was determined to > spare England the spectre of me driving on the "wrong" side, so I used only > local buses and trains. Quite successfully. Still, in a car you can get to > places off the bus routes, and fit more into a day. For fun, check out: > > -- Bus tours of Dartmoor, including the "Haytor Hoppa." > -- The "Cathedral of the Moors" in Widecombe. > -- "Red Coat" themed walking tours of Exeter. > -- Devon cream tea at the Tea Room on the Green near Exeter Cathedral. > -- An excursion by train from Exeter down one side of the Exe Estuary and > up the other, including: Topsham (birdwatching at the marsh), Lympstone > (gem of an ice-cream parlour), ferry from Exmouth to Starcross, seawall > walk to Dawlish. > -- The Donkey Sanctuary near Sidmouth (a not-to-be-missed seaside town). > -- A 3-mile walk over the cliffs from Beer, past Beer Head, to the charming > village of Branscombe. > -- The Honiton (All Hallows) Lace Museum and the Ploughman's Lunch at the > Lacemakers Cafe. > > Likely you weren't looking for such frivolous suggestions on a website > devoted to genealogy. But I feel the others have that base covered. Of > especial value from my point of view were Paul's recommendations about > being as prepared as possible, right down to locating ancestral homesteads > on maps (such as Google Streetmap). There's preparation, and then there's > the joy of accidental discovery. I wish you both! > > Lynda, Ottawa > > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Seeing the reference to the train trip round the Exe estuary reminds me of a sad little tale. A cousin of mine was visiting from Australia, staying in Exmouth where our joint ancestors lived. She was coming to see me in Dawlish, so I suggested she travel by train. Alas, however, there was a heavy sea mist , so there was no view at all on the way to me - or on the way back, it was the only day I'd ever recalled such a heavy mist lasting all day. Should be OK in July though! Angela in Exmouth ----Original message---- From : lyndamuir23@gmail.com Date : 16/01/2019 - 02:15 (GMT) To : devon@rootsweb.com Subject : [DEV] Re: Genealogy Travel to Devon Hi, Bill Let me share some (non-family-history-related) tips / highlights from my trip to East Devon in July 2018. I travelled alone and was determined to spare England the spectre of me driving on the "wrong" side, so I used only local buses and trains. Quite successfully. Still, in a car you can get to places off the bus routes, and fit more into a day. For fun, check out: -- Bus tours of Dartmoor, including the "Haytor Hoppa." -- The "Cathedral of the Moors" in Widecombe. -- "Red Coat" themed walking tours of Exeter. -- Devon cream tea at the Tea Room on the Green near Exeter Cathedral. -- An excursion by train from Exeter down one side of the Exe Estuary and up the other, including: Topsham (birdwatching at the marsh), Lympstone (gem of an ice-cream parlour), ferry from Exmouth to Starcross, seawall walk to Dawlish. -- The Donkey Sanctuary near Sidmouth (a not-to-be-missed seaside town). -- A 3-mile walk over the cliffs from Beer, past Beer Head, to the charming village of Branscombe. -- The Honiton (All Hallows) Lace Museum and the Ploughman's Lunch at the Lacemakers Cafe. Likely you weren't looking for such frivolous suggestions on a website devoted to genealogy. But I feel the others have that base covered. Of especial value from my point of view were Paul's recommendations about being as prepared as possible, right down to locating ancestral homesteads on maps (such as Google Streetmap). There's preparation, and then there's the joy of accidental discovery. I wish you both! Lynda, Ottawa

Bill, I also posted that I want to tour Devon (also Cornwall and Wales) and need the same kind of guidance you need, but my husband and I do not want to have to drive ourselves..we want a guide / driver in small group or private...or at least a taxi or method of getting around. This evening, I posted to this list but under another Subject Line...Unique Tours of Devon....regarding a website I found for genealogy tours of Devon. So far my posting doesn't seem to have been received, so I'm sharing what I found here with you. Sounds very helpful in that the company Unique Devon Tours conducts guided genealogy tours and helps find information as well. https://www.uniquedevontours.com/genealogy-tours/ Audrey in North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: Bill Phillips via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 10:03 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bill Phillips <ncswufpack@yahoo.com> Subject: [DEV] Genealogy Travel to Devon All, I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. Thanks in advanceBill _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi all; Another thing I forgot to mention regarding the use of SATNAVs, is never use U.K. post codes for your destination location. From my own past early experience, this can be extremely dodgy and inaccurate. Same applies to some street addresses. Most SATNAVs, if not all, have the option to insert destination locations by using the latitude/longitude co-ordinates. During your trip planning, before leaving home, determine and look-up your intended destination locations and record their latitude/longitude co-ordinates. On the computer, Google Earth is great for doing this. It probably takes slightly longer to key in the destination on the SATNAV using this method, but it will very probably get you to within about 5 or 6 feet of your destination, or even closer, provided the SATNAV is utilizing up-to-date maps in its database. Another word of warning - if your SATNAV is shrouded my hills or mountains to the South (assuming you are in Devon) where the geo-stationary satellites sit above the equator, the system may drop out. Be aware of the physical constraints of this system if planning a route that involves travel in the close proximity to the North of Dartmoor, etc. I extremely doubt that organized bus tours will allow you sufficient time at each stop for individual or sufficient research. If I ever get the opportunity to again do a trip like that of Devon, or anywhere, it would always be with a hire car and using a SATNAV. Also, lots of research beforehand. Next time I will also compare 'maps' on my mobile phone to the dedicated SATNAV in the car. Over and out! Len Heyward -----Original Message----- From: meg@taylor.it <meg@taylor.it> Sent: 16 January, 2019 1:42 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Sue' <sstoneman@btinternet.com> Subject: [DEV] Re: UK genealogical touring Further to this, post codes can often mislead on Satnavs as well so check with the place you are going to as to whether their post code works on Satnav. Ours does but it does cover about a mile of lane and 6 properties, but I have been seriously mislead by some in the past so I always ask and tell others that ours can be relied on. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Sue via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 January 2019 10:20 To: devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Sue <sstoneman@btinternet.com> Subject: [DEV] Re: UK genealogical touring Another rule for touring in Devon and Cornwall. The sat nav is not always right and can quite often lead you down single track roads with grass growing up the middle. If you meet another vehicle we find some people cannot reverse. Best to keep to a and B roads. Sent from my iPad > On 15 Jan 2019, at 10:11, Mike Mallett via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Just my thoughts > > Car - allow plenty of time for travelling on country roads > > Rail - although the system is limited rail rover tickets might be > worthwhile for some see > http://railrover.org/pages/devon-day-ranger.html and more > http://railrover.org/ > > Phone - if you expect to make a few UK calls get a UK SIM though > coverage may be limited in remoter areas > > For those venturing off the beaten track there are military firing > ranges on Dartmoor so look out for the red flags! > > > Mike > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Maps beat Satnavs!  You can put places in context with the surrounding area and see the classes of roads. John On 16/01/2019 10:35 am, Jim Robbens wrote: > Bill > > Just to add my three penny worth - you have had plenty of good advice but one thing you should never do in Devon is choose "Shortest Route" from your sat nav options. I did this last year on a trip home from Holsworthy via Exeter and ended up in a myriad of single track roads in the back of beyond (and through several farmyards) and got very frustrated. By all means go for "No Motorways (Freeways)" but otherwise always choose "Quickest Route". And believe me, you do need to hire a car (auto is best). > > Welcome to the UK. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Phillips via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 14 January 2019 15:03 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Cc: Bill Phillips <ncswufpack@yahoo.com> > Subject: [DEV] Genealogy Travel to Devon > > All, > I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. Thanks in advanceBill > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hi, Bill Let me share some (non-family-history-related) tips / highlights from my trip to East Devon in July 2018. I travelled alone and was determined to spare England the spectre of me driving on the "wrong" side, so I used only local buses and trains. Quite successfully. Still, in a car you can get to places off the bus routes, and fit more into a day. For fun, check out: -- Bus tours of Dartmoor, including the "Haytor Hoppa." -- The "Cathedral of the Moors" in Widecombe. -- "Red Coat" themed walking tours of Exeter. -- Devon cream tea at the Tea Room on the Green near Exeter Cathedral. -- An excursion by train from Exeter down one side of the Exe Estuary and up the other, including: Topsham (birdwatching at the marsh), Lympstone (gem of an ice-cream parlour), ferry from Exmouth to Starcross, seawall walk to Dawlish. -- The Donkey Sanctuary near Sidmouth (a not-to-be-missed seaside town). -- A 3-mile walk over the cliffs from Beer, past Beer Head, to the charming village of Branscombe. -- The Honiton (All Hallows) Lace Museum and the Ploughman's Lunch at the Lacemakers Cafe. Likely you weren't looking for such frivolous suggestions on a website devoted to genealogy. But I feel the others have that base covered. Of especial value from my point of view were Paul's recommendations about being as prepared as possible, right down to locating ancestral homesteads on maps (such as Google Streetmap). There's preparation, and then there's the joy of accidental discovery. I wish you both! Lynda, Ottawa On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 10:04 AM Bill Phillips via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com wrote: > All, > I am just starting to plan a trip from US to Devon for July time frame. > Can anyone provide guidance? For example company's to plan, schedule > tours, etc. Websites for guidance? Areas planning to visit include > Dunford, Chudleigh, Bridestow. > Thanks in advanceBill > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I am one of the people on the list who posted . in the beginning stages of planning a genealogy tour in 2019 or 2020, as well as a relaxing trip to explore the North of Devon (at least) and perhaps Cornwall, and I also want to try and include Wales if possible. Doing some internet searches, I've found what might be an answer to a custom guided tour and help with genealogy. Maybe somebody has used the services of Unique Devon Tours https://www.uniquedevontours.com/genealogy-tours/ Audrey in North Carolina