Information required on George Garland who was in Dartmouth harbour c1642 preparing for a voyage to the Newfoundland fishery. And of Emeline Garland who was a widow in Newfoundland in 1675.

Bev If you follow the link already given then click on the tiny arrow next to the logo that looks a little like a Mary Quant flower over on the right (under the red SIGN IN button) and choose the last item “Download PDF” you can save a copy of the book to your hard drive to read at will. Amanda NZ

Greetings Terry Thank you for your feedback. Inevitably, such a project is going to have its problems. LDS has been doing a similar thing for many years but without adequate controls. It is only now that it is attempting to address the difficulties thereby caused. I have noticed that nonsense submitted to LDS has been transferred directly on to WikiTree. Did you raise your concerns with those running the WikiTree project? What was the response? Unless we all attempt to address the errors contained on LDS, Ancestry, WikiTree, and other databases these errors will go on being perpetrated. It is an enormous task and will take many years, but that, IMHO, does not mean that we should not try. I would bet that everyone on this list has used the IGI. Well, there is now an opportunity to give something back and help correct the errors and omissions that are in the system. Instead of saying it will not work, make it work. Regards John Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:35:34 -0000 From: <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [DEV] LDS Changes To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0974702F52234DF286AAD73BA22A01BB@TerryPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The main problem on Wikitree is people merging several generations into one person. These people who seem to know better than the rest of us lost two generations of my family when they merged three generations of people named John. I also found that their software was not the best in the world. It's difficult at times to delete should you make an error. It also deleted my email address. When I logged in again I had a new profile. Which didn't connect to my family pedigree. It also fail to up load a gedcom file, they request people to up load. Their idea of one vast family tree just isn't going to work in my opinion. It will contain to many errors. Plus you could get one person to wreck it all with false information. On principle I decided not to add any more of my family to this source. Terry Blackmore OPC, Sheldon, Devon. -----Original Message----- From: John Ritchings Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:33 AM To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] LDS Changes Greetings There is another development on Family Search which I have found to be useful. I signed up to an account and as much of my research has been aided by LDS, I though that I would give something back and put my tree on-line. However, as you build the tree, it identifies other likely matches on the database. This may be a single entry or a whole tree. The net result is that I am overwhelmed by work to validate the suggested lines. I have tried to tidy up the direct family line by making corrections and appropriate connections, but clearly there is an opportunity here to break down brick walls as you work. My family has also made the decision to place our family history on WikiTree. WikiTree has the advantage over LDS in that it also records genetic genealogy results, giving the opportunity to track ancestors by both paper trails and genes. There are controls to stop duplicates and there is also a code of conduct to which participants must subscribe. Regards John

Thanks Terry. That was quick again. This is the same Mary Ann who was born in Churchstanton and after her 2nd husband died she took on this job apparently and was living there with one of her grandchildren from Bristol in 1871. It was a big comedown from being a landowner's wife - her first husband - but when he died the property went to his elder brother alone and then her eldest son. Bruce is from the second son of a second son and in those days they missed out usually. Poor Mary Ann had to go out cleaning as a charwoman when she married again to Robert Pearcey as he was an ag lab and often unemployed as well as being quite a lot older than her. I think he was a Pearcey from Broadhembury if you can find a connection to that family. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] Tollgate in Cullompton > Hi Anne > > Often with toll collectors there was a toll cottage with the job, if > the family lived there it's most likely that the job of toll collector > remained in the family. Like wise with lock keepers on the water ways > there > was a lock keepers cottage with the job. > Persey or variations of the spelling often turns up in my family > around > the Cullompton area. There are a number of ***** Persey Blackmore's in the > family pedigree. > > Regards Terry Blackmore > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:00 PM > To: Devon List > Subject: [DEV] Tollgate in Cullompton > > Hello all > > Can anyone who lives in or near Cullompton please tell me if there is any > information on the Tollgate on the Tiverton Road. My husband's 3xggm Mary > Ann Pearcey was the toll collector according to the 1871 census and I > would > be interested in further information on the place. Strangely enough this > is > the second person in his background to do this job. I know they were being > phased out by this time and she wasn't there in 1881. > > Thanks > Anne > DFHS 6314 > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Amanda Well you are the clever one, I might just try that. Thanks Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amanda Kerby" <amanda.kerby@snap.net.nz> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:18 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 > Bev > If you follow the link already given then click on the tiny arrow next to > the logo that looks a little like a Mary Quant flower over on the right > (under the red SIGN IN button) and choose the last item “Download PDF” you > can save a copy of the book to your hard drive to read at will. > > Amanda > NZ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3629/6349 - Release Date: 11/19/13 >

Just my two cents, but before anyone goes posting all sorts of information on public sites, they may want to read up on the coming changes to privacy in the EU and beyond with regards to the right of erasure and the right to be forgotten ..... Scott On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:26 AM, John Ritchings <jdr60@me.com> wrote: > Greetings Terry > > Thank you for your feedback. Inevitably, such a project is going to have > its problems. LDS has been doing a similar thing for many years but > without adequate controls. It is only now that it is attempting to address > the difficulties thereby caused. I have noticed that nonsense submitted to > LDS has been transferred directly on to WikiTree. > > Did you raise your concerns with those running the WikiTree project? What > was the response? Unless we all attempt to address the errors contained on > LDS, Ancestry, WikiTree, and other databases these errors will go on being > perpetrated. It is an enormous task and will take many years, but that, > IMHO, does not mean that we should not try. > > I would bet that everyone on this list has used the IGI. Well, there is > now an opportunity to give something back and help correct the errors and > omissions that are in the system. Instead of saying it will not work, make > it work. > > Regards > > > > John > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:35:34 -0000 > From: <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [DEV] LDS Changes > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0974702F52234DF286AAD73BA22A01BB@TerryPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The main problem on Wikitree is people merging several generations into one > person. These people who seem to know better than the rest of us lost two > generations of my family when they merged three generations of people named > John. I also found that their software was not the best in the world. It's > difficult at times to delete should you make an error. It also deleted my > email address. When I logged in again I had a new profile. Which didn't > connect to my family pedigree. It also fail to up load a gedcom file, they > request people to up load. Their idea of one vast family tree just isn't > going to work in my opinion. It will contain to many errors. Plus you could > get one person to wreck it all with false information. On principle I > decided not to add any more of my family to this source. > > Terry Blackmore > OPC, Sheldon, Devon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Ritchings > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:33 AM > To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] LDS Changes > > Greetings > > There is another development on Family Search which I have found to be > useful. > > I signed up to an account and as much of my research has been aided by LDS, > I though that I would give something back and put my tree on-line. > However, > as you build the tree, it identifies other likely matches on the database. > This may be a single entry or a whole tree. The net result is that I am > overwhelmed by work to validate the suggested lines. I have tried to tidy > up the direct family line by making corrections and appropriate > connections, > but clearly there is an opportunity here to break down brick walls as you > work. > > My family has also made the decision to place our family history on > WikiTree. WikiTree has the advantage over LDS in that it also records > genetic genealogy results, giving the opportunity to track ancestors by > both > paper trails and genes. There are controls to stop duplicates and there is > also a code of conduct to which participants must subscribe. > > Regards > > > > > John > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Scott W. Phillips Genealogical Historian Onward To Our Past 3324 LaSalle Trail Duneland Beach, Indiana 46360 Phone (312) 718-1769 *Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/OnwardToOurPast <http://www.facebook.com/OnwardToOurPast>* *Website: http://OnwardToOurPast.com <http://OnwardToOurPast.com>* *Twitter: @OnwardToOurPast*

You might find something about it on this website:http://www.turnpikes.org.uk/   Joy ________________________________ From: Anne <ewi70878@bigpond.net.au> To: Devon List <Devon-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 23:00 Subject: [DEV] Tollgate in Cullompton Hello all Can anyone who lives in or near Cullompton please tell me if there is any information on the Tollgate on the Tiverton Road. My husband's 3xggm Mary Ann Pearcey was the toll collector according to the 1871 census and I would be interested in further information on the place. Strangely enough this is the second person in his background to do this job. I know they were being phased out by this time and she wasn't there in 1881. Thanks Anne DFHS 6314 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all Can anyone who lives in or near Cullompton please tell me if there is any information on the Tollgate on the Tiverton Road. My husband's 3xggm Mary Ann Pearcey was the toll collector according to the 1871 census and I would be interested in further information on the place. Strangely enough this is the second person in his background to do this job. I know they were being phased out by this time and she wasn't there in 1881. Thanks Anne DFHS 6314

Anne I suggest that you contact the research library at Tiverton Museum for more information about this. Try research@tivertonmuseum.org.uk Regards Graham in Silverton -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: 19 November 2013 23:01 To: Devon List Subject: [DEV] Tollgate in Cullompton Hello all Can anyone who lives in or near Cullompton please tell me if there is any information on the Tollgate on the Tiverton Road. My husband's 3xggm Mary Ann Pearcey was the toll collector according to the 1871 census and I would be interested in further information on the place. Strangely enough this is the second person in his background to do this job. I know they were being phased out by this time and she wasn't there in 1881. Thanks Anne DFHS 6314 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I saw that Joy, thanks. I was looking through it yesterday on-line at LDS [Latter Day Saints] but I cannot seem to read it on-line here at home. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:19 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 > Hi Bev, > > It is on Google Books: > http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/A_View_of_Devonshire_in_MDCXXX.html?id=WJGEAAAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y > > Regards, > > Joy > > > ________________________________ > From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> > To: DEVON@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 19:46 > Subject: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 > > > Morning all, > > Devonshire Families > > Does anyone know if this book can be read on-line please? > > Regards > Bev > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3629/6349 - Release Date: 11/19/13 > >

Thanks Terry It might be worth getting just to see who is who. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: <terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:02 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 > Hi Bev the Devon FHS has this available on CD. Only £5 plus P&P see > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/shop/product_list.php?cat_id=5 > scoll down to CD 034. > Just one of a huge range of old books on CD > that the Society produces. > > Terry > >>----Original Message---- >>From: > beverley@yourisp.com.au >>Date: 19/11/2013 19:46 >>To: <DEVON@rootsweb. > com> >>Subj: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 >> >>Morning all, >> > >>Devonshire Families >> >>Does anyone know if this book can be read on- > line please? >> >>Regards >>Bev > >>------------------------------------------ >>The DEVON-L mailing list > is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/) >> and >>the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/) >>List archive for Devon > can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3629/6349 - Release Date: 11/19/13 >

Registers of Swanage, Co Dorset 1563-1812 Arthur Vicary of Kings Newton in the Devon Resident of this parish, from 9br [November] 4th, 1766 & Betty PIGEON [signs " PIDGEON "], of Tidbury in the County of Devon. Wit. Thos X BRADFORD, Sarah X BRADFORD Married 28 Dec 1767 Not my family Bev

Morning all, Devonshire Families Does anyone know if this book can be read on-line please? Regards Bev

Hi Anne Often with toll collectors there was a toll cottage with the job, if the family lived there it's most likely that the job of toll collector remained in the family. Like wise with lock keepers on the water ways there was a lock keepers cottage with the job. Persey or variations of the spelling often turns up in my family around the Cullompton area. There are a number of ***** Persey Blackmore's in the family pedigree. Regards Terry Blackmore -----Original Message----- From: Anne Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:00 PM To: Devon List Subject: [DEV] Tollgate in Cullompton Hello all Can anyone who lives in or near Cullompton please tell me if there is any information on the Tollgate on the Tiverton Road. My husband's 3xggm Mary Ann Pearcey was the toll collector according to the 1871 census and I would be interested in further information on the place. Strangely enough this is the second person in his background to do this job. I know they were being phased out by this time and she wasn't there in 1881. Thanks Anne DFHS 6314 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bev,   It is on Google Books: http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/A_View_of_Devonshire_in_MDCXXX.html?id=WJGEAAAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y   Regards,   Joy   ________________________________ From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 19:46 Subject: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 Morning all, Devonshire Families Does anyone know if this book can be read on-line please? Regards Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bev the Devon FHS has this available on CD. Only £5 plus P&P see http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/shop/product_list.php?cat_id=5 scoll down to CD 034. Just one of a huge range of old books on CD that the Society produces. Terry >----Original Message---- >From: beverley@yourisp.com.au >Date: 19/11/2013 19:46 >To: <DEVON@rootsweb. com> >Subj: [DEV] View of Devonshire 1630 > >Morning all, > >Devonshire Families > >Does anyone know if this book can be read on- line please? > >Regards >Bev >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/) > and >the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/) >List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The main problem on Wikitree is people merging several generations into one person. These people who seem to know better than the rest of us lost two generations of my family when they merged three generations of people named John. I also found that their software was not the best in the world. It's difficult at times to delete should you make an error. It also deleted my email address. When I logged in again I had a new profile. Which didn't connect to my family pedigree. It also fail to up load a gedcom file, they request people to up load. Their idea of one vast family tree just isn't going to work in my opinion. It will contain to many errors. Plus you could get one person to wreck it all with false information. On principle I decided not to add any more of my family to this source. Terry Blackmore OPC, Sheldon, Devon. -----Original Message----- From: John Ritchings Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:33 AM To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] LDS Changes Greetings There is another development on Family Search which I have found to be useful. I signed up to an account and as much of my research has been aided by LDS, I though that I would give something back and put my tree on-line. However, as you build the tree, it identifies other likely matches on the database. This may be a single entry or a whole tree. The net result is that I am overwhelmed by work to validate the suggested lines. I have tried to tidy up the direct family line by making corrections and appropriate connections, but clearly there is an opportunity here to break down brick walls as you work. My family has also made the decision to place our family history on WikiTree. WikiTree has the advantage over LDS in that it also records genetic genealogy results, giving the opportunity to track ancestors by both paper trails and genes. There are controls to stop duplicates and there is also a code of conduct to which participants must subscribe. Regards John Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:31:43 +0000 From: Brian Randell <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [DEV] Family search To: Paul Hockie <paul.hockie@talk21.com> Cc: DEVON-L <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com>, Brian Randell <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> Message-ID: <C0DD8702-64B6-45B4-A5D8-A7D26517245D@ncl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Paul: On 17 Nov 2013, at 17:35, Paul Hockie <paul.hockie@talk21.com> wrote: > Jon, > > Familysearch is now organised by Collections > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list and not by film. Most > parishes are lumped together under England on the assumption that most > will > be searching by name and/or place. Each collection has a guide on how to > use the collection and there are also some collections that are images > only, > including Devon for St Giles on the Heath and Werrington. The Devon > Records that have the images on Findmypast are also a separate collection. > The link above shows when the record was last updated. > > Cheers > > Paul Thanks for this. I find they currently have just two Devon-related collections: England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010 and England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912 The first of these has just two Devon parishes, the second is the big West Devon collection now on FindMyPast. I've tried searching this latter collection, but can't get the facility for restricting searches to a particular parish to work. For example a search on Whitefield returns 885 results whether or not you specify, for example, Plymouth as the place of birth, marriage or death. And in fact all these events just name Devon as the place where the given birth, marriage or death took place. I've investigated the various Help facilities to no avail. However I did find the statement "This collection contains baptisms, marriages, and burials from parishes in West Devon. This collection was done in cooperation with FindMyPast, and a full version of the index can be found atwww.findmypast.co.uk." Is this a subtle way of saying that to look within a particular parish, go to FindMyPast? Can you throw any light on this? Cheers Brian Randell ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings There is another development on Family Search which I have found to be useful. I signed up to an account and as much of my research has been aided by LDS, I though that I would give something back and put my tree on-line. However, as you build the tree, it identifies other likely matches on the database. This may be a single entry or a whole tree. The net result is that I am overwhelmed by work to validate the suggested lines. I have tried to tidy up the direct family line by making corrections and appropriate connections, but clearly there is an opportunity here to break down brick walls as you work. My family has also made the decision to place our family history on WikiTree. WikiTree has the advantage over LDS in that it also records genetic genealogy results, giving the opportunity to track ancestors by both paper trails and genes. There are controls to stop duplicates and there is also a code of conduct to which participants must subscribe. Regards John Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:31:43 +0000 From: Brian Randell <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [DEV] Family search To: Paul Hockie <paul.hockie@talk21.com> Cc: DEVON-L <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com>, Brian Randell <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> Message-ID: <C0DD8702-64B6-45B4-A5D8-A7D26517245D@ncl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Paul: On 17 Nov 2013, at 17:35, Paul Hockie <paul.hockie@talk21.com> wrote: > Jon, > > Familysearch is now organised by Collections > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list and not by film. Most > parishes are lumped together under England on the assumption that most will > be searching by name and/or place. Each collection has a guide on how to > use the collection and there are also some collections that are images only, > including Devon for St Giles on the Heath and Werrington. The Devon > Records that have the images on Findmypast are also a separate collection. > The link above shows when the record was last updated. > > Cheers > > Paul Thanks for this. I find they currently have just two Devon-related collections: England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010 and England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912 The first of these has just two Devon parishes, the second is the big West Devon collection now on FindMyPast. I've tried searching this latter collection, but can't get the facility for restricting searches to a particular parish to work. For example a search on Whitefield returns 885 results whether or not you specify, for example, Plymouth as the place of birth, marriage or death. And in fact all these events just name Devon as the place where the given birth, marriage or death took place. I've investigated the various Help facilities to no avail. However I did find the statement "This collection contains baptisms, marriages, and burials from parishes in West Devon. This collection was done in cooperation with FindMyPast, and a full version of the index can be found atwww.findmypast.co.uk." Is this a subtle way of saying that to look within a particular parish, go to FindMyPast? Can you throw any light on this? Cheers Brian Randell

Hi Paul: Thanks for the quick response. At least I hadn't missed anything, and as you say, this LDS version of a FindMyPast resource is indeed better than nothing. Cheers Brian On 18 Nov 2013, at 19:15, Paul Hockie wrote: > Brian, > > Amongst all the good things on Familysearch the LDS occasionally seems to do something odd. For their partnerships with Findmypast etc. they seem to provide only a high level index with the ability to drill down to parish level either in a Family History Library or by subscription to the provider. > If you pick a common Devon name to get a hit ( I used Warren) and then follow a link on the left of the name, you will see the level of detail Familysearch holds. The Event Place is only Devon, then to the right there is a link "Explore Viewing Options" which gives a message: > This image is available: > · When using the site at a FamilySearch Center. > · To signed-in members of supporting organizations. > Something similar happens with Census collection. > > Not an elegant solution but better than nothing. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Randell [mailto:brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk] > Sent: 18 November 2013 18:32 > To: Paul Hockie > Cc: Brian Randell; DEVON-L > Subject: Re: [DEV] Family search > > Hi Paul: > > On 17 Nov 2013, at 17:35, Paul Hockie <paul.hockie@talk21.com> wrote: > > > Jon, > > > > Familysearch is now organised by Collections > > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list and not by film. Most > > parishes are lumped together under England on the assumption that most > > will be searching by name and/or place. Each collection has a guide on > > how to use the collection and there are also some collections that are > > images only, including Devon for St Giles on the Heath and > > Werrington. The Devon Records that have the images on Findmypast are also a separate collection. > > The link above shows when the record was last updated. > > > > Cheers > > > > Paul > > Thanks for this. > > I find they currently have just two Devon-related collections: > > England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010 and England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912 > > The first of these has just two Devon parishes, the second is the big West Devon collection now on FindMyPast. > > I've tried searching this latter collection, but can't get the facility for restricting searches to a particular parish to work. For example a search on Whitefield returns 885 results whether or not you specify, for example, Plymouth as the place of birth, marriage or death. And in fact all these events just name Devon as the place where the given birth, marriage or death took place. > > I've investigated the various Help facilities to no avail. However I did find the statement "This collection contains baptisms, marriages, and burials from parishes in West Devon. This collection was done in cooperation with FindMyPast, and a full version of the index can be found at www.findmypast.co.uk." Is this a subtle way of saying that to look within a particular parish, go to FindMyPast? > > Can you throw any light on this? > > Cheers > > Brian Randell > > > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU > EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 > URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell > > > -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

Brian, Amongst all the good things on Familysearch the LDS occasionally seems to do something odd. For their partnerships with Findmypast etc. they seem to provide only a high level index with the ability to drill down to parish level either in a Family History Library or by subscription to the provider. If you pick a common Devon name to get a hit ( I used Warren) and then follow a link on the left of the name, you will see the level of detail Familysearch holds. The Event Place is only Devon, then to the right there is a link "Explore Viewing Options" which gives a message: This image is available: . When using the site at a FamilySearch Center. . To signed-in members of supporting organizations. Something similar happens with Census collection. Not an elegant solution but better than nothing. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Brian Randell [mailto:brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk] Sent: 18 November 2013 18:32 To: Paul Hockie Cc: Brian Randell; DEVON-L Subject: Re: [DEV] Family search Hi Paul: On 17 Nov 2013, at 17:35, Paul Hockie < <mailto:paul.hockie@talk21.com> paul.hockie@talk21.com> wrote: > Jon, > > Familysearch is now organised by Collections > <https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list> https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list and not by film. Most > parishes are lumped together under England on the assumption that most > will be searching by name and/or place. Each collection has a guide on > how to use the collection and there are also some collections that are > images only, including Devon for St Giles on the Heath and > Werrington. The Devon Records that have the images on Findmypast are also a separate collection. > The link above shows when the record was last updated. > > Cheers > > Paul Thanks for this. I find they currently have just two Devon-related collections: England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers, 1538-2010 and England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912 The first of these has just two Devon parishes, the second is the big West Devon collection now on FindMyPast. I've tried searching this latter collection, but can't get the facility for restricting searches to a particular parish to work. For example a search on Whitefield returns 885 results whether or not you specify, for example, Plymouth as the place of birth, marriage or death. And in fact all these events just name Devon as the place where the given birth, marriage or death took place. I've investigated the various Help facilities to no avail. However I did find the statement "This collection contains baptisms, marriages, and burials from parishes in West Devon. This collection was done in cooperation with FindMyPast, and a full version of the index can be found at <http://www.findmypast.co.uk> www.findmypast.co.uk." Is this a subtle way of saying that to look within a particular parish, go to FindMyPast? Can you throw any light on this? Cheers Brian Randell School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU EMAIL = <mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 URL = <http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell> http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell