Morning all Not my family This entry is in my PR's, on my old Fiche but not found on familysearch. Married 20 May 1656 at Totnes Peter HARRIS to Jane BICKFORD both of Rattery Bev

I have a convoluted theory which means that your James BOW was actually James Beazley HOLMAN but I could be wrong. My reasoning goes like this On 1891 Census (St George the Martyr, Soutwark) your James Bow is shown as being born 1851 in Torquay and is a Bricklayers Labourer. Also on that census shows a son Arthur born 1874 in Westminster, London. On checking the 1881 Census for this Arthur I found in (St George the Martyr, Southwark) an Arthur Bow, son of William Bow and Jadwiga Bow (Who's age and place of Birth matches your Mary Bow). Also on that Census was a James B Holman born 1851 in Torquay and is a Bricklayers Labourer. I believe that William Bow died and James Holman became Head of Household and was going by the name Bow at least on the Censuses. I say this because could not find any Births to match for Florence, George or James as a Bow, but found a George and a James Holman Births which match the years given in 1891 and 1901 Census. Also on 1901 Census James Bow gives his occupation as Shoe Black Licensed. I have found Baptisms for a George Beazley Holman and a James Beazley Holman, Father given as James, Mother as Mary and occupation as Shoe Black. Unable to find a Jadwiga Bow on 1891/1901 Census but did find a death for Jadwiga Mary Bow aged 60 in 1910 - Southwark Vol 1d p 63. Also struggling to locate James B Holman on any Census after 1881 nor can i find a marriage or death for him but his Birth is registered in Newton Abbot District (which covers Torquay) in Q1 1851. Nor could i seem to find a marrige for Florence (Bow/Holman) to unknown Shepherd. Without getting her Death Certificate and finding out who the informant was and what the Address was and/or Birth Certificates for George Holman or James Holman, cannot say for certain my theory is correct. Hope this helps rather than hinders. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 30/11/2013 21:40, Jill wrote: > Good Morning - I am hoping someone doing the BOW tree is on this list > I am trying to connect to JAMES BOW born in or around 1851 Berry Pomeroy - but he says in the 1901 and 1911 census in Southwark London that he was born in Torquay, Devon. > The only James BOW I could find was this James Henry BOW son of Thomas BOW and Ann CUMMING - > I took a look at the Family trees on Ancestry and none of them have this James Married some do not have it on their trees at all > My James and his wife Mary born in 1850 St James London were in the 1901 census - can find no marriage entry for them. > James is in the 1861 census with his family then missing until 1891 where he appear to be in London with a wife Mary. > He is widowed in 1911 living in Walworth Southwark, with him is his daughter Florence [nee BOW] SHEPHERD and her children. Florence eventually re marries Albert GOULD but that is not what I am searching for > > IS this the correct James ? > was his real name James Henry BOW is Torquay near enough to Berry Pomeroy to say he was born there? > What happened to him between 1861 and 1881? > > A Big ask I know but maybe something will click to a list member > > PS I did work on the premise that he was James BOW born in Chetnole Dorset but I now know this is not him > > Thank you in anticipation > Jill > on: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6880 - Release Date: 11/30/13

Hi Jill, Could be them 1861 Census Thomas Bow 36 Totnes, Totnes Ann Bow 30 Totnes, Totnes James Henry Bow 7 Totnes, Totnes Mary Grace Bow 4 Totnes, Totnes Sarah Ann Bow 1 Totnes, Totnes 1871 Census Thomas Bow 46 Totnes, Totnes Ann Bow 39 Totnes, Totnes Mary G Bow 14 Totnes, Totnes Married Charles Janes March 1881 William T Bow 9 Totnes, Totnes Possible for James James Bow 20 Jersey 1881 Census Thomas BOW 56 Totnes, Totnes Ann BOW 49 Totnes, Totnes William T BOW 19 Totnes, Totnes 1891 Census Thomas BOW 66 Totnes, Totnes Ann BOW 60 Totnes, Totnes 1901 Census Ann Bow 69 Devon Harbertonford Devon Totnes Hope it Helps Steve Dinham

Evening Bev (not morning here yet) I'm sure someone will know but could it possibly be Elizabeth's address (as in name of her house)? Just a thought. All the best, Jane > From: beverley@yourisp.com.au > To: DEVON@rootsweb.com; eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 08:14:49 +1000 > Subject: [DEV] Moreland [where is it] in Devon? [SMITH] > > Morning all, > > Harberton PR's > > Elizabeth w/o William SMITH of Moreland was buried at Rattery 9 Oct 1696. > > Trying to establish where Moreland is? It does not seem to appear in the > Gazetteer on Genuki. > > There is a little hamlet called Moore in Harberton, could it mean that? > > Bev > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 17:07 +0000, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi, you don`t say where he was bapt in 1718......and > it may be there is an OPC for that village or the parish registers are > online . <..> Forename(s):John Tender Surname:Bailey Year:1718 Month:Aug Day:17 Father's Forename:Gartrud (transcription error here) Mother's Forename: Mother's Surname: Birth Day: Birth Month: Birth Year: Dedication:Stoke Damerel Place:Plymouth County:Devon Page:57 Archive Ref:166/3 Notes: Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection The image shows in clear handwriting: "John Tender ye son of Gartrud Bailey [et Populi] was baptized on ye 18th of August 1718" So the transcription should read: Forename: John Surname: Tender?, or Bailey? Mothers Forename: Gartrud Mothers Surname: Bailey My other friends who are researching the Bailey family have settled on this chappie, I'm still trying to verify if he is the only option... later, after maybe 1815, the family seems to be settled right in the centre of Plymouth in 10 Morley Lane...

Hey thanks for that Adrian, Nowadays I believe most people have a lot more tolerant attitude to 'single mothers' even to the extent of surrogacy where the child doesn't even know the identity of the father... I suppose it was a lot more serious back in the days when fathers were expected to support their children, and were punished for not doing so. Also I think back then the idea of responsibility and good and acceptable Christian behaviour, coupled with the general harshness of life, public hangings for theft etc, made people far less sympathetic. I believe that there have always been young girls who are pathetically naïve, as well the ones who are 'loose' or 'wanton'... As to the apparently unsympathetic nature of the times, I have seen one example in my tree (census 1851) where a young widow aged 32, with four children, the youngest only a year old, became a 'pauper' on the death of her husband... The four innocent children are also are listed as 'pauper'! So the meaning of the clerk writing [et populi] translates to "you're telling me the father's surname is 'Tender'... yeah, yeah, and the rest!" Another series of thoughts that come to mind in this context is the way that William the Conqueror dealt with people who called him a bastard.. not to mention the antics of say, Henry the VIII, or the behaviour of the Stuart dynasty, for example... On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 19:51 +0000, Adrian Bruce wrote: > <<snipped>> > "et populi" is interesting. Most entries I have seen use "illeg(itimate)" > or even "bastard child". "Et Populi" means "and the people". > <<snipped>> > > The SoG book, "My Ancestor was a Bastard" includes a whole page of synonyms > for illegitimate, including "Filius Populi (child of the people)", "Puer > Populi (child of the people)" and "son of the People" - also "Filius unius > cujusque (child of everyone)", "Filius vulgi (child of the multitude)". > > So it's a consistent theme, albeit slightly differently expressed. Maybe it > was supposed to convey, "child of the mother and the people"? > > Adrian B > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Elizabeth, What is the A2A site? Best regards Graeme On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 14:27 +0000, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi, there may be something in the A2A site , I should > just put Bailey and 1715-1724 and Devon in the keyword boxes .......you may > be lucky . > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graeme M Bailey" <graeme@baileynet.com.au> > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:02 AM > Subject: [DEV] Meaning of "[et populi]" in baptism record? > > > > Greetings > > Can anyone help with the meaning of an entry in a baptism: > > > > John Tender ye son of Gartrud Bailey [et Populi] was baptized on ye 18th > > August 1718 > > > > 1. Does this mean that a fellow whose surname was Tender had a child by > > Gartrud Bailey, but Mr Tender has not married her and she is having the > > boy baptized as John Tender, the son of Gartrud Bailey... > > > > or > > > > 2. The boy is being baptized by his mother, Gartrud Bailey and that his > > name is John Tender Bailey > > > > Can anyone help with the expression 'et Populi' in this context? > > > > Best regards > > Graeme > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > List archive for Devon can be found at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bev -- My 9th great grandfather is Tristram COFFIN, born approx. 1605 in Brixton, s/o Peter and Joanna (KEMBER) COFFYN His descendants fill several large books of COFFIN genealogy in North America. What did your "odd hunting places" provide? Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://Bodie.CA Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com or mailto:Glen.Bodie@gmail.com Cell mailto:phone.glen.bodie@gmail.com Snail Mail: 46 Georgia Wynd, Delta, BC, Canada V4M 1A5 -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:55:01 +1000 From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Subject: [DEV] Tristram COFFIN of Butlers, Brixton, Devon pre 1601 + To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Afternoon, Again not my family, but have info regarding the above chap. Tristram COFFIN of Butlers, Brixton, Devon Bev

Poster now on moderation!!! Terry list admin team On 30/11/2013 09:49, Brian Spear wrote: > together deep in conversation Harry was sure they were cooking up their own > version of how > > * i've sent you a facebook notification > [1]SHOW FULL EMAIL CONTENT > > References > > 1. http://68.168.25.119/?l2=1&ne=07e25c740f58&3=devon@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Unfortunately, you are going to have difficulty proving a connection in the Plymouth and Stoke Damerel areas during the 18th century.  I would certainly be cautious about making a definite identification without further evidence.  The population of Stoke Damerel expanded rapidly during the 18th century because the naval dockyards were developed and there is no certainty that someone living in Stoke Damerel in the mid 18th century was actually born there (or even in Devon).   The construction of the dockyards and the associated living accommodation to house the workers, the increased trade opportunities resulting from a larger population and servicing the Navy and the actual work in the dockyards attracted people to the town from far and near.  There were also sailors and soldiers moving in and out of the area.    The surname Bailey appears in the parishes around Plymouth and over the Tamar in Cornwall.  A Gurtrude Bayley married William Braddon at Launcells in Cornwall 14 Jul 1720.    What occupations did the family have later?  If they were seafarers, my own experience with my own ancestors is that often the men married and settled in their wife's home town and it has been impossible to track their origins with any certainty before the census and Mariners Records gave the information.   There was a John Bayly who was a merchant in Plymouth in 1767 as this record on A2A shows.  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=021-rd&cid=5-2-4-9-9&kw=bayly damerel#5-2-4-9-9 If this is John Bailey, son of Gartrud, it was a considerable achievement to rise from illegitimacy to being a merchant.  The document mentions the Presbyterian Church so this gentleman's family might not appear in the Church of England parish records.   Sorry, this doesn't really help!  Good luck anyway   Joy ________________________________ From: Graeme M Bailey <graeme@baileynet.com.au> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2013, 8:00 Subject: Re: [DEV] Meaning of "[et populi]" in baptism record? "My other friends who are researching the Bailey family have settled on this chappie, I'm still trying to verify if he is the only option... later, after maybe 1815, the family seems to be settled right in the centre of Plymouth in 10 Morley Lane..." ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Access to Archives , from the Discovery National Archives site, A2A is the local county ROs input . Well worth a look . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme M Bailey" <graeme@baileynet.com.au> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [DEV] Meaning of "[et populi]" in baptism record? > Thanks Elizabeth, > What is the A2A site? > > Best regards > Graeme > > > On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 14:27 +0000, elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi, there may be something in the A2A site , I should >> just put Bailey and 1715-1724 and Devon in the keyword boxes .......you >> may >> be lucky . >> >> >> >> >> >> life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graeme M Bailey" <graeme@baileynet.com.au> >> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:02 AM >> Subject: [DEV] Meaning of "[et populi]" in baptism record? >> >> >> > Greetings >> > Can anyone help with the meaning of an entry in a baptism: >> > >> > John Tender ye son of Gartrud Bailey [et Populi] was baptized on ye >> > 18th >> > August 1718 >> > >> > 1. Does this mean that a fellow whose surname was Tender had a child by >> > Gartrud Bailey, but Mr Tender has not married her and she is having the >> > boy baptized as John Tender, the son of Gartrud Bailey... >> > >> > or >> > >> > 2. The boy is being baptized by his mother, Gartrud Bailey and that his >> > name is John Tender Bailey >> > >> > Can anyone help with the expression 'et Populi' in this context? >> > >> > Best regards >> > Graeme >> > >> > ------------------------------------------ >> > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> > and >> > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> > List archive for Devon can be found at >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Just google A2A: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ Cheers, Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Graeme M Bailey Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:05 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Meaning of "[et populi]" in baptism record? Thanks Elizabeth, What is the A2A site? Best regards Graeme On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 14:27 +0000, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi, there may be something in the A2A site , I should > just put Bailey and 1715-1724 and Devon in the keyword boxes .......you > may > be lucky . > > > >

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I have been transcribing a parish burial register recently and what I found was that the register seems to record all burial services (and they are conducted by a variety of vicars, not just the incumbent) but not necessarily the interments in the parish churchyard. Some entries have marginal entries saying where the person was interred which could be away from the parish churchyard. This is especially the case after town graveyards start up in the latter 19th century and also after the original parish churchyard became full and a new one started elsewhere. Jon -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Gould Sent: 30 November 2013 08:03 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] St Budeaux, Devonport Would it mean that the funeral took place at the parish church and then the burial/cremation took place at Weston Mill? jane gould -----Original Message----- From: Peter Armstrong Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:13 PM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] St Budeaux, Devonport I have just obtained details of a relatively recent burial from the Plymouth & West Devon Collection available on findmypast. It is the burial of William Godsland on 29 Feb 1980 in the burial registers of St Budeaux, Devonport. However, it appears the burial actually occurred in Weston Mill Cemetery. Many of the entries on the page I have from the register have annotations added in tiny writing underneath the name of the person. In the case of this entry it has "W.M. Cemy". A couple of other entries have "W.M.Crem" which I take to mean they were cremated at Weston Mill Crematorium. A couple of other entries have "H.2." and "H.3." which I take to be plot numbers of people actually buried at St Budeaux. It seems rather bizarre that this has been done because I would assume that Weston Mill Cemetery has its own burial regisers which should contain details of all the people who were buried or cremated there! Regards, Peter Armstrong email: godsland@one-name.org Godsland One Name Study Researching GODSLAND, GOSLAND, GOSSLAND & similar variants World Wide Website: http://www.godsland.co.uk Member No.1987 of the Guild of One Name Studies Guild Website http://www.one-name.org/ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would it mean that the funeral took place at the parish church and then the burial/cremation took place at Weston Mill? jane gould -----Original Message----- From: Peter Armstrong Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:13 PM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] St Budeaux, Devonport I have just obtained details of a relatively recent burial from the Plymouth & West Devon Collection available on findmypast. It is the burial of William Godsland on 29 Feb 1980 in the burial registers of St Budeaux, Devonport. However, it appears the burial actually occurred in Weston Mill Cemetery. Many of the entries on the page I have from the register have annotations added in tiny writing underneath the name of the person. In the case of this entry it has "W.M. Cemy". A couple of other entries have "W.M.Crem" which I take to mean they were cremated at Weston Mill Crematorium. A couple of other entries have "H.2." and "H.3." which I take to be plot numbers of people actually buried at St Budeaux. It seems rather bizarre that this has been done because I would assume that Weston Mill Cemetery has its own burial regisers which should contain details of all the people who were buried or cremated there! Regards, Peter Armstrong email: godsland@one-name.org Godsland One Name Study Researching GODSLAND, GOSLAND, GOSSLAND & similar variants World Wide Website: http://www.godsland.co.uk Member No.1987 of the Guild of One Name Studies Guild Website http://www.one-name.org/ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Exmouth Journal or possibly The Express and Echo (Exeter). Roz Hickman OPC Otterton, Colaton Raleigh, Harpford and Bicton Member of the Society of Genealogists -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of althea.john Sent: 29 November 2013 23:01 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] re Newspapers Exmouth I would like to know which newspapers would have been used for an obituary in Exmouth in November 2003 and if there was possibly a report of her hundredth birthday also in January 2001. Don't like to put her name on here as it is a bit to close to her death and not sure what family she had and wouldn't like to cause distress so if you can help please email me at my email address Thank you Althea ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A link to The National Archives A2A website (Access to Archives), http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ and many other useful links, may be found on Devon FHS's website: http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/links.htm Regards, Maureen Selley Devon FHS 4019 On 30/11/2013 06:05, Graeme M Bailey wrote: > Thanks Elizabeth, > What is the A2A site? > > Best regards > Graeme > > > On Thu, 2013-11-28 at 14:27 +0000, elizabeth howard wrote: >> Hi, there may be something in the A2A site , I should >> just put Bailey and 1715-1724 and Devon in the keyword boxes .......you may >> be lucky . >> >> --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Parish Burial Registers belong to the Church and the cemetery's belong to the local council. So the cemetery will have records of who is buried there, where and when. The Church just the record of when he was buried and maybe the death date. Both can be assessed, though not sure if any local councils put cemetery records on line. One might have to get the records from the cemetery. I did for a return visit to my father's burial plot. It was no where near where I thought it was. The cemetery having changed so much since I was at his funeral. Now a days of course there are death certificates that copies can be applied for from the local Registrar of BMDs. Terry Blackmore OPC, Sheldon, Devon -----Original Message----- From: Peter Armstrong Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:13 PM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] St Budeaux, Devonport I have just obtained details of a relatively recent burial from the Plymouth & West Devon Collection available on findmypast. It is the burial of William Godsland on 29 Feb 1980 in the burial registers of St Budeaux, Devonport. However, it appears the burial actually occurred in Weston Mill Cemetery. Many of the entries on the page I have from the register have annotations added in tiny writing underneath the name of the person. In the case of this entry it has "W.M. Cemy". A couple of other entries have "W.M.Crem" which I take to mean they were cremated at Weston Mill Crematorium. A couple of other entries have "H.2." and "H.3." which I take to be plot numbers of people actually buried at St Budeaux. It seems rather bizarre that this has been done because I would assume that Weston Mill Cemetery has its own burial regisers which should contain details of all the people who were buried or cremated there! Regards, Peter Armstrong email: godsland@one-name.org Godsland One Name Study Researching GODSLAND, GOSLAND, GOSSLAND & similar variants World Wide Website: http://www.godsland.co.uk Member No.1987 of the Guild of One Name Studies Guild Website http://www.one-name.org/ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<<snipped>> It seems rather bizarre that this has been done because I would assume that Weston Mill Cemetery has its own burial regisers which should contain details of all the people who were buried or cremated there! <<snipped>> Every so often I think I've worked out what should appear in a current burial register - and then I find counter examples. I thought I'd decided they are _burial_ registers, not funeral registers. But the only idea I can come up with to explain this case is that the vicar of St Budeaux conducted the funeral and these entries record that fact. Maybe it's just up to the church concerned... Comments anyone? Adrian B

I have just obtained details of a relatively recent burial from the Plymouth & West Devon Collection available on findmypast. It is the burial of William Godsland on 29 Feb 1980 in the burial registers of St Budeaux, Devonport. However, it appears the burial actually occurred in Weston Mill Cemetery. Many of the entries on the page I have from the register have annotations added in tiny writing underneath the name of the person. In the case of this entry it has "W.M. Cemy". A couple of other entries have "W.M.Crem" which I take to mean they were cremated at Weston Mill Crematorium. A couple of other entries have "H.2." and "H.3." which I take to be plot numbers of people actually buried at St Budeaux. It seems rather bizarre that this has been done because I would assume that Weston Mill Cemetery has its own burial regisers which should contain details of all the people who were buried or cremated there! Regards, Peter Armstrong email: godsland@one-name.org Godsland One Name Study Researching GODSLAND, GOSLAND, GOSSLAND & similar variants World Wide Website: http://www.godsland.co.uk Member No.1987 of the Guild of One Name Studies Guild Website http://www.one-name.org/