Hi Bev. in a way you are right , they did emigrate but only as far as Wales . The 1911 for Swansea shows Wm Sam King, 30, house painter, b Totnes, with Minnie , 26, b Dartington, married 2 yrs , no children. living at 16 Norfolk St, Mt Pleasant , Swansea . William Samuel joined the Labour Corps from 78 Rhondda St , Swansea aged 35 yrs 5 mnths , he is 5ft 5 inches, has blue eyes and fair hair , his chest measurement is 34 1/2 inches and he has no distinctive marks , he was a painter , and married with one child . 1st Dec 1915. His wife Minnie Edmunds King whom he married in Staverton on June 8th 1908, is his next of kin and his child is Leslie William b Oct 15th 1912. There is a further note asking for his correct Labour Corps number, saying he was transferred from 5th Bedford Regt Agric Coy on 11th April 1917. He was discharged " no longer physically fit for war service" in Dec 1917 . and seems to have been in hospital in Chatham , his character is good. His disability is given the number 164. By July 1918 the widow of Pte William S King is awarded a pension of 20/5 a week for herself and one child following the cessation of Pte King`s payment. " I am directed by the Ministry of Pensions to inform you that the death of 179850 Pte Wm S King , 337 H S Coy , Labour Corps is regarded as due to disease contracted on or commencing on active service . " . Sadly it seems from another page of these records that disability 164 is " General paralysis of insane". Further it originated in Sept 1917, at Chatham, he was " admitted to Fort Pitt 25 Oct 1917, very talkative, noisy, ? in a state of mental disease sisnce admission, he has developed exalted and grandiose ideas and is difficult to restrain . " A further note says that the disability was not so caused by war service but was constitutional . A sad tale ....do you know what happened to Minnie and her son ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:40 AM Subject: [DEV] William Samuel KING and Minnie EDMONDS > Afternoon all, > > Revisiting old brick walls in the hope that someone has seen this couple. > > William Samuel KING married Minnie EDMONDS Totnes R/D 1908. > > My last sighting of her was in 1901 when she was a Domestic for Frederick > P. > Wakeham at West Alvington. In her mother's Will she is granted Probate in > 1916 so I know she was alive then. > > She was born in Dartington 1884. Did they immigrate?? > > Also, anyone know who William Samuel King is? > > Regards > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The transcription has been corrected on FMP and it appears that the register has been withdrawn - perhaps for checking. Maureen Selley Devon FHS 4019 On 16/12/2013 20:41, Blaine Sanders wrote: > I found a gross transcription error in FMP's records the other day, and thought I'd share in case anyone else in the world has been searching for descendants of George Tuner and Grace Lange... or, conversely, searching for the wife/marriage of Charles Lawrie/Lawry of Plymstock. > > News Flash: George Tuner doesn't exist. > > His name is Charles Lawrie (Lawry) > He married Grace Lange (Lang) 10/21/1654 in Plymstock > Came across a son named Christopher, b. 1/5/1657 > There are more children, just haven't had time to put them together yet. > > I've notified FMP, haven't heard back whether or not they'll fix it. If that name was messed up so bad, there's got to be several others from that section of the registry as well. If you're searching for ancestors in Plymstock in the 1650 - 1660 time period, it behooves you to look at the images and study that vicar's handwriting very carefully. I've seen similar handwriting in other registries of that time period as well. If you're struggling with it, I've got it mostly figured out, and would be happy to help translate (wherever it's legible, that is). > > Regards, > Blaine Sanders --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

I found a gross transcription error in FMP's records the other day, and thought I'd share in case anyone else in the world has been searching for descendants of George Tuner and Grace Lange... or, conversely, searching for the wife/marriage of Charles Lawrie/Lawry of Plymstock. News Flash: George Tuner doesn't exist. His name is Charles Lawrie (Lawry) He married Grace Lange (Lang) 10/21/1654 in Plymstock Came across a son named Christopher, b. 1/5/1657 There are more children, just haven't had time to put them together yet. I've notified FMP, haven't heard back whether or not they'll fix it. If that name was messed up so bad, there's got to be several others from that section of the registry as well. If you're searching for ancestors in Plymstock in the 1650 - 1660 time period, it behooves you to look at the images and study that vicar's handwriting very carefully. I've seen similar handwriting in other registries of that time period as well. If you're struggling with it, I've got it mostly figured out, and would be happy to help translate (wherever it's legible, that is). Regards, Blaine Sanders

Morning all Charles CORNISH married Anne Batty Edmonds 1865 in Plymouth. I do not have their marriage certificate which would really, really help, but being a little on the ikey side, I thought someone else may have this Charles and know something of him. I think Ann may have died in 1867 and is buried in Ford Park A Charles CORNISH [widower] marries a Celia ELLIS 13 Apr 1869 at Charles [I have this image] He is a bootmaker s/o John CORNISH, bootmaker. 1871 census confirms that he is from Werrington [actually born/living at Yealmbridge in 1826] with wife Celia and her mother. They have a son William T. E. CORNISH registered as William Thomas E. CORNISH. My thoughts are that he could be William Thomas Edmonds CORNISH [I wish] I can find no suitable trace of them in 1881-1891, so did they all die or immigrate? Bev

Hi Bev, just looking at the image for the marriage 8th Feb 1810 William Frazer , Royal Artillery , and Elizabeth Beer, of this parish. by Banns, by John Gandy, vicar, William Frazer signs and so does Elizabeth. Witnesses John Beer, Mary BeerX her mark , and James Boulter. who signs other marriages so may be the parish clerk .. William Frazer also has a middle name crossed out . On closer inspection I think he just made a blodge of writing his surname , it looks like Farser or similar . There is the burial of a William Frazer , 2yrs 1 month in Aug 1812 . Stoke Damerel . Wm senior if in the RA at this time could have been killed anywhere This is mid Napoleonic wars . I don`t see him in the NA catalogue but that isn`t to say he isn`t somewhere . However there is a William Fraser , Royal Artillery , dates of service 1810-1886 . That strikes me as being unlikely to serve for perhaps 100yrs . It is probably the series dates for this WO 76/363/312 . Richard Hocking Edmonds signs Richard and Mr Harker the curate should have corrected this entry . but suddenly Elizabeth Beer , late Frazer, can no longer sign her name . And it is a Wm Beer who witnesses. with Mary Burt. Stoke Damerel Dec 1821. Guessing Elizabeth Beer is the dau of John and Mary , and Wm may be a brother or even a young son ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com>; <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] Robert [Richard] EDONNDS and Elizabeth FRAZIER [wid] > Hi again, > > I think I may have answered part of this for my self. I did not find this > marriage on Findmypast at LDS on Tuesday although it must be there. Have > just pulled out the trusty old Marriage CD and found this. > > William FRAZER to Elizabeth BEER 8 Feb 1810 [with Notes] Plymouth St > Andrew. > > Is anyone please able to see what the image says on FMP for this marriage. > [providing it is there] > > I now need to find a burial for William Frazer/Fazier/Fraser 1810- 1821. > > There does not seem to be one on my CD. > > Sorry about the multiple listings, but I thought that the FRASER may have > come from Cornwall. > Bev > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:30 AM > To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com>; > <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DEV] Robert [Richard] EDONNDS and Elizabeth FRAZIER [wid] > >> Morning to you all and a very Merry Christmas and adventurous New Year in >> 2014. >> >> Multiple Lists.............. >> >> I like tying up loose ends but am rather stuck with the wife Elizabeth >> FRAZIER who is a widow in 1821 when she remarries. >> >> >> Robert Hocking EDMONDS [indexes] but really Richard, married Elizabeth >> FRAZIER, widow at Stoke Damerel 13 Dec 1821 >> Witnesses were Wm. BEER and Mary Burt >> >> Two of Elizabeth's sons have the middle name of BEER in them, so I figure >> she must have been a BEER before she married FRAZIER. Does anyone have a >> BEER/FRAZIER marriage in their data bases please? Another reason is that >> a >> William BEER is witness, so figure again that he might have a connection >> of >> some sort to Elizabeth, maybe brother/father. >> >> There is an Elizabeth BEER chr. 24 Jan 1800 d/o William & Elizabeth at >> Plymouth. Could this be her? Mind you if this is her, she was quiet young >> at >> 21 to be a widow. I have not been able to find a suitable burial for a >> FRAZEIR just before that time, his burial may not have occurred in >> Plymouth >> and surrounds. Can anyone help please. >> >> Bev >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6421 - Release Date: 12/14/13 >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear List, I have an interest in Thomas Stanley Murley, who was a son of the Murley family resident at the Fernery in Lynton in the late 1800s/early 1900s. He was killed in WW1 and is listed on the Lynton War Memorial. Does anyone have any connections and/or interest? For some reason, he did not live with his parents but with an aunty in Cornwall. Derrick Parsons

Hi again, I think I may have answered part of this for my self. I did not find this marriage on Findmypast at LDS on Tuesday although it must be there. Have just pulled out the trusty old Marriage CD and found this. William FRAZER to Elizabeth BEER 8 Feb 1810 [with Notes] Plymouth St Andrew. Is anyone please able to see what the image says on FMP for this marriage. [providing it is there] I now need to find a burial for William Frazer/Fazier/Fraser 1810- 1821. There does not seem to be one on my CD. Sorry about the multiple listings, but I thought that the FRASER may have come from Cornwall. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:30 AM To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; <cornish@rootsweb.com>; <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Robert [Richard] EDONNDS and Elizabeth FRAZIER [wid] > Morning to you all and a very Merry Christmas and adventurous New Year in > 2014. > > Multiple Lists.............. > > I like tying up loose ends but am rather stuck with the wife Elizabeth > FRAZIER who is a widow in 1821 when she remarries. > > > Robert Hocking EDMONDS [indexes] but really Richard, married Elizabeth > FRAZIER, widow at Stoke Damerel 13 Dec 1821 > Witnesses were Wm. BEER and Mary Burt > > Two of Elizabeth's sons have the middle name of BEER in them, so I figure > she must have been a BEER before she married FRAZIER. Does anyone have a > BEER/FRAZIER marriage in their data bases please? Another reason is that a > William BEER is witness, so figure again that he might have a connection > of > some sort to Elizabeth, maybe brother/father. > > There is an Elizabeth BEER chr. 24 Jan 1800 d/o William & Elizabeth at > Plymouth. Could this be her? Mind you if this is her, she was quiet young > at > 21 to be a widow. I have not been able to find a suitable burial for a > FRAZEIR just before that time, his burial may not have occurred in > Plymouth > and surrounds. Can anyone help please. > > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6421 - Release Date: 12/14/13 >

Morning to you all and a very Merry Christmas and adventurous New Year in 2014. Multiple Lists.............. I like tying up loose ends but am rather stuck with the wife Elizabeth FRAZIER who is a widow in 1821 when she remarries. Robert Hocking EDMONDS [indexes] but really Richard, married Elizabeth FRAZIER, widow at Stoke Damerel 13 Dec 1821 Witnesses were Wm. BEER and Mary Burt Two of Elizabeth's sons have the middle name of BEER in them, so I figure she must have been a BEER before she married FRAZIER. Does anyone have a BEER/FRAZIER marriage in their data bases please? Another reason is that a William BEER is witness, so figure again that he might have a connection of some sort to Elizabeth, maybe brother/father. There is an Elizabeth BEER chr. 24 Jan 1800 d/o William & Elizabeth at Plymouth. Could this be her? Mind you if this is her, she was quiet young at 21 to be a widow. I have not been able to find a suitable burial for a FRAZEIR just before that time, his burial may not have occurred in Plymouth and surrounds. Can anyone help please. Bev

Greetings A little while ago there was some discussion on this list about preserving/publishing family histories. There is now a list dealing with this subject: publish-famhist@rootsweb.com Regards John

Hi, all I can find in Linda Colley`s book Captivity is that single sentence , that in 1676 a Charity brief was authorised to help Joan raise the ransom for her son Edward. It doesn`t say and there are no notes , whether or not he was rescued . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gion Tobac" <giontobac@outlook.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:46 AM Subject: [DEV] Bampfield > Is the Bampfield discussion still on? Edward, the son of Joan, was > captured by Moroccan pirates. Was Joan able to obtain the ransom for him > in 1676 or did Edward languish in prison or as a galley slave? > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Is the Bampfield discussion still on? Edward, the son of Joan, was captured by Moroccan pirates. Was Joan able to obtain the ransom for him in 1676 or did Edward languish in prison or as a galley slave?

Derrick Please contact me direct at GJHP@btinternet.com so that I can put you in touch with someone who has information on John Northcott. Regards Graham Parnell in Silverton -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Derrick Parsons Sent: 11 December 2013 08:27 To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] James/John Northcott: Ecclesiastical Wood Carver I wonder if anyone can help me with a query I have. First, a little context. I am researching the names appearing on our local (Stoke Climsland, Cornwall) WW1 Memorial and am interested in the person who carved the wooden commemorative plaque to those killed. The only information I can glean is that he was James or John Northcott and he was an ecclesiastical wood carver from Ashwater in Devon. I know that he carved various items for several churches around this area (Holsworthy, Horrabridge) and I'm wondering whether anyone knows anything that might fill out his biograqphy. I can access his details via the various censuses but what I'm trying to do is to find out more about the man and his work. I am writing a book/booklet about the men and the memorial and I'm aiming for this to be more than a litany of dates - I hope! In anticipation - but not holding my breath! Derrick Parsons ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if anyone can help me with a query I have. First, a little context. I am researching the names appearing on our local (Stoke Climsland, Cornwall) WW1 Memorial and am interested in the person who carved the wooden commemorative plaque to those killed. The only information I can glean is that he was James or John Northcott and he was an ecclesiastical wood carver from Ashwater in Devon. I know that he carved various items for several churches around this area (Holsworthy, Horrabridge) and I'm wondering whether anyone knows anything that might fill out his biograqphy. I can access his details via the various censuses but what I'm trying to do is to find out more about the man and his work. I am writing a book/booklet about the men and the memorial and I'm aiming for this to be more than a litany of dates - I hope! In anticipation - but not holding my breath! Derrick Parsons

I have a FOXWELL family in Devon. Originating from Portsea, Hampshire. Henry born about 1843 James Harry James Arthur born 25 Sept 1872 Dorothy Lilian A 1904 to 2005 Edna Edith born 5 Nov 1907 Devonport, died 15 Feb 1989 Daphne Originally from Paignton - Now Qld.Aus > Mentions > George FOXWELL in the Citty of Exon, in Deavon [sic] England > > Something to do with New England. > > Bev > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Stuart, While I basically agree with your assumptions on age of marriage and number of children, I have examples in my family of early marriage and children in a number of parishes. Young marriages occurred to secure family fortunes and land. They also happened because of "rustic" behaviour of youth. This is usually obvious from the date of marriage and the first born. With regard to the children, I have found that agricultural labourers (and sometimes farmers) moved from farm to farm following the work. They were often employed via the hiring fairs in the market towns and changed farms regularly until more permanent positions opened. This had the effect of balancing jobs with labour in a wider economy and mixing the gene pool. The effect is more obvious in the 19th century when a labourer and his circumstances can be viewed across the census, with a family being born in batches across 2-3 villages. You do not say what tools you have been using to research. A lot of 18c Devon is not yet online and the registers should be searched starting with those surrounding North Moulton. Try and find a copy of Parloc software on the web. This lists 39 parishes in a 10 mile radius of North Moulton. I am sure Jane was worth a 10 mile walk. Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of STUART BLAKE Sent: 10 December 2013 03:49 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re John Blake and Jane Hooper, Plymouth, Devon My ancestors, John Blake and Jane had three children in North Molton, 1767, 1770, and 1772. The only marriage someone has found was to a Jane Abbot in Barnstable in 1770. This can not be correct, as they had a child in 1767, and John would have only been 19 at the time of his first child. It is probable, but in my research, not likely. Another concern, is that they only had 3 children. Again, probable, but not likely. I have done extensive research all over Devon, and even in Somerset county, but have come up empty handed. I have come across a marriage for a Jno. Blake and Jane Hooper on 15 July 1753, in Plymouth (St. Andrews Parish.). I see they had some children there. This marriage fits perfectly into the parameters that I am working with. However, as those records I have access to, are more time consuming to read and go through, I was wondering if anyone could give me some input and/or guidance. Was it common back then to be married in Plymouth, and then travel that far (to North Molton)? I say that far, as it is from one end of Devon to the opposite end, but for poor hungry people, that probably wasn't far to go to work. What type of records are there to verify where one went, or where one came from? Is there a Hooper family member that may know of this marriage and shed some light on it for me? Am I looking up the wrong 'tree’? As I don't live in England, I am not sure of the customs at this time, and wonder if I am wasting my time searching this marriage out, but so far, it is the only John Blake that married a Jane, prior to 1767 that I can find. Thanks for any help/advise. Stuart ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Edna , send it over if you are struggling . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <liverpud-49@rogers.com> To: "DEVON-L" <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:26 PM Subject: [DEV] Simon Worth 1715-1776 > Good Day, I'm presently transcribing the will of Simon Worth, Gentleman > of Washfield. I was wondering if someone, if he/she has the time, could > go over it with me. > > With appreciation, > > Edna - Ottawa > Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year to All > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Elizabeth, Thank you for your healthy skepticism... it keeps me on my toes. :) Lets see...  >You say you are certain that Ann was christened in  >Plymstock , have you found this ? I should clarify that I do not as yet have empirical, irrefutable proof that she was christened in Plymstock... and I doubt that I ever will. However, the Lang name is VERY prominent all the way from the beginnings of the 1695 - 1747 register and at least up through the end of that century. Their roots run deep in Plymstock. That's not to say they don't elsewhere... has anyone done one of these "one-name study" things on the Lang name? Last night I finished going through the 1695 - 1747 registry and have pieced together the Lang family as best I can (until I have time to go through the other registries). There is an Anne Lang born to Henry Lang 21 Nov. 1735. That would have put her roughly 25 - 26 years old at the time she married Phillip. She was listed as "of this parish, spinster" on the Banns. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14546-633-72?cc=1804330&wc=MMBD-PFS:515723165 And that's all I have at this point as evidence that she belongs to the Plymstock parish. >And they managed ,as we still do here in the UK , to  >move about in fall or winter and spring  !!!!  we aren`t  >talking 100s of miles here .. True. However, they didn't have cars with heaters, either, and a gravely ill family member or a frail infant would have been enough incentive to wait until spring... I would think, even under the threat of an order of removal. Of course, this is all conjecture. I do not yet have enough evidence to form any solid conclusions. Perhaps I should choose my words more carefully in the future so as not to make myself seem so certain. At this point, I do not believe that Richard Page was a son of Philip and Ann. But I'm not ruling it out, either. I simply want to exhaust all possibilities before giving up on the idea altogether. I am told that there are other nearby parishes that have a heavy dose of Lang blood in them as well. Until I have time to sift through all of them I am going off the assumption that Ann (Anne) Lang was christened in Plymstock in 1735. Sure would like to find access to court/poor records for Brixton and Plymstock... Best Regards, Blaine

Edna: >Good Day, I'm presently transcribing the will of Simon Worth, Gentleman >of Washfield. I was wondering if someone, if he/she has the time, >could go over it with me. I would be happy to do that, especially as I have recently found that I have ancestors from Washfield. In any case, I hope you will be sending the results to Brian Randell for inclusion in GENUKI. Regards, John Moore

Good Day, I'm presently transcribing the will of Simon Worth, Gentleman of Washfield. I was wondering if someone, if he/she has the time, could go over it with me. With appreciation, Edna - Ottawa Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year to All

Hello Does anyone descend from John Lewis and Sarah/Sally nee Mill who married at Northam in 1819 and had 6 sons in Clovelly? Children (baptised in Clovelly) George Henry 29 July 1821 John Mill 4 Jan 1824 James 9 Jul 1826 Thomas 8 Nov 1829 William 1 September 1833 Richard born c. 1839 Marriages and children for any of these sons would be great. I am not interested in taking these families any further back – only in descendants. Thanks Janet