Hi, Ancestry`s Criminal registers 1791-1892 shows a number of John Bishops being tried over the years in the Devon assizes , the one in 1831 is at the Lent Assizes and is accused of " Breaking within the curtilage and stealing " I am not sure exactly what that means but he got Life . So his crime seems to be in a different category . I checked the 1841 census in case I could find him in Exeter Gaol but without success. There may be Gaol registers somewhere , DRO will know . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Stevens" <diagramdiana@iinet.net.au> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:07 PM Subject: [DEV] John BISHOP convicted at Exeter 1831 > Seasons greetings to all. > > For years I have been trying to find out what happened to my > GG-Grandfather John BISHOP. He disappeared ca 1830-1831. > > I have now found in Woolmer's Exeter and Plymouth Gazette of 19 Mar 1831 > the Calendar for the Lent Assizes in Exeter which includes a John BISHOP > age 27 (he was bap 10 Apr 1803 at Teigngrace) accused of burglary. > > I have also found the sentence/acquittal of 5 of the other 6 burglars on > the list in the E&PG of 26 Mar 1831 but not John. > > I have found him in a prison hulk, with a life sentence, convicted at > Exeter on 17 Mar 1831 of 'breaking into a house with tools'. > > I can't find him in any of the Australian Convict Indexes but of course > not all the prisoners on hulks were transported. Before I do anything else > I need to find where the crime took place so that I can judge if he is my > John. > > A report in The North Devon Journal and General Advertiser of 31 Mar 1831 > gives the sentence of the 6th burglar but not John. The article is > 'concluded from our last' but despite trying many names of other > prisoners in the Calendar I can't find the previous NDJ. > > Trove, the Australian newspaper site allows you to search for a specific > paper by date but that does not seem possible on FMP. > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Best wishes from Diana in Perth WA > DFHS 8119 > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Afternoon to all, I do hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas, we took the van to Copeton Waters and nearly died in the heat. Arrived in a sweltering 38° and did nothing for a week but flop about in over 35° every other day, tomorrow is supposed to be worse so we packed up early and came home. We did see the flooding on TV in England so hope that none of our Listers were badly affected. Thank you to everyone who helped me with George Reed SEARLE, especially Tim who tracked him down. I did take my 3 Towns CD with me and I did think I had found more connections and who the likely parents could have been. Unfortunately where we went there was no Internet service so had to twiddle my thumbs and grumble over this. But I did get to clean up a lot and do some merging/unmerging etc. Regards Bev

Hi Diana, According to the British Newspaper Archive which is where FMP take their Newspaper Articles from. The North Devon Journal for 24 Mar 1831 is Missing. The BNA does let you search for a specific paper by date. It is a PPV site but i use it to track what papers i might want then use FMP to read the article. Tim Treeby. DFHS 13926 On 28/12/2013 13:07, Diana Stevens wrote: > Seasons greetings to all. > > For years I have been trying to find out what happened to my GG-Grandfather John BISHOP. He disappeared ca 1830-1831. > > I have now found in Woolmer's Exeter and Plymouth Gazette of 19 Mar 1831 the Calendar for the Lent Assizes in Exeter which includes a John BISHOP age 27 (he was bap 10 Apr 1803 at Teigngrace) accused of burglary. > > I have also found the sentence/acquittal of 5 of the other 6 burglars on the list in the E&PG of 26 Mar 1831 but not John. > > I have found him in a prison hulk, with a life sentence, convicted at Exeter on 17 Mar 1831 of 'breaking into a house with tools'. > > I can't find him in any of the Australian Convict Indexes but of course not all the prisoners on hulks were transported. Before I do anything else I need to find where the crime took place so that I can judge if he is my John. > > A report in The North Devon Journal and General Advertiser of 31 Mar 1831 gives the sentence of the 6th burglar but not John. The article is 'concluded from our last' but despite trying many names of other prisoners in the Calendar I can't find the previous NDJ. > > Trove, the Australian newspaper site allows you to search for a specific paper by date but that does not seem possible on FMP. > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > Best wishes from Diana in Perth WA > DFHS 8119 >

Hi Diana,   Is this him? http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/bishop/john/118356   Joy ________________________________ From: Diana Stevens <diagramdiana@iinet.net.au> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2013, 13:07 Subject: [DEV] John BISHOP convicted at Exeter 1831 Seasons greetings to all. For years I have been trying to find out what happened to my GG-Grandfather John BISHOP. He disappeared ca 1830-1831. I have now found in Woolmer's Exeter and Plymouth Gazette of 19 Mar 1831 the Calendar for the Lent Assizes in Exeter which includes a John BISHOP age 27 (he was bap 10 Apr 1803 at Teigngrace) accused of burglary. I have also found the sentence/acquittal of 5 of the other 6 burglars on the list in the E&PG of 26 Mar 1831 but not John. I have found him in a prison hulk, with a life sentence, convicted at Exeter on 17 Mar 1831 of 'breaking into a house with tools'. I can't find him in any of the Australian Convict Indexes but of course not all the prisoners on hulks were transported. Before I do anything else I need to find where the crime took place so that I can judge if he is my John. A report in The North Devon Journal and General Advertiser of 31 Mar 1831 gives the sentence of the 6th burglar but not John. The article is 'concluded from our last'  but despite trying many names of other prisoners in the Calendar I can't find the previous NDJ. Trove, the Australian newspaper site allows you to search for a specific paper by date but that does not seem possible on FMP. Any suggestions gratefully received. Best wishes from Diana in Perth WA DFHS 8119 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Richard DOIDGE buried at Ford Park Cemetery 21 Mar 1860 aged 42 of Alfred Place, Plymouth St Andrew. This could be your chap. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:36 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Martha DOIDGE born c1854 Plymouth m John Henry HANCOCKbornc1851 > Hi, FreeBmd has two Martha Doidge born between > 1852-1856 and the most likely is the one born in Plymouth district in > 1854 > . the other is born in the Liskeard district. > The 1861 census shows a Mary Doidge , head, widow , 45 > , > lodging house keeper b Launceston ?, Cornwall, with her children Chas A , > 11, Fanny , 8, Martha, 6, Mary A , 4 , and with them are two Pascoe > nieces Mary and Hannah . . FreeBmd has the death of a Richard Doidge in > Plymouth in 1860. > In the 1851 also in Plymouth shows Richard Doidge, > head, > marr, 34, coachman , b Bratton Clovelly, Mary , wife, 35, born Launcells, > St > Thomas, and with them Charles Arthur , aged 1 . b. Plymouth. > Bratton Clovelly , Richard`s birth place is not on IGI > nor has it an OPC but there is a Deanery of Okehampton cd which has bapts > 1813 onward which should include him . Mary Balhatchet may be on IGI a > lot > of Cornish parishes are . > Devon Family History Society has BMD indexes which > include 264 Doidge bapts between 1813-1839 , and 254 marriages 1754-1812, > and a further 135 marriages 1813- 1837. This is very good value and it > would be worth it to get all of these entries. You may have left it > too > late this year to get the DFHS printouts but you could put in a request . > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hilton doidge" <hilton.d@clear.net.nz> > To: "DEVON UK" <DEVON@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 8:16 AM > Subject: [DEV] Martha DOIDGE born c1854 Plymouth m John Henry HANCOCK > bornc1851 > > >> Martha DOIDGE born c1854, Plymouth, Devon, married John Henry HANCOCK >> born >> c1851 Menheniot Cornwall, 31 July 1879 Plymouth, Devon... >> >> The marriage registration states that Martha's father's name is Richard >> DOIDGE and he is deceased at time of Martha's marriage... >> >> >> >> 1861 and 1871 Census both show a Martha DOIDGE with an age that fits the >> Martha above and born in Plymouth, Devon... Both the 1861 and 1871 Census >> reveals the 'Head' as a Mary DOIDGE. >> >> >> >> June quarter, 1847 reveals a marriage for a Richard DOIDGE and a Mary >> BALHATCHET in the District of Plymouth... Is this the Richard DOIDGE that >> shows as father on Martha's Marriage Registration? >> >> Is Mary BALHATCHET indeed the same 'Mary' that shows as Mary DOIDGE, >> Head, >> in both the 1861 and 1871 Census? >> >> >> >> >> >> There is a Martha Doidge, wife of John Henry HANCOCK buried at Anderson's >> Bay Cemetery, Dunedin, New Zealand... I believe this to be the above >> Martha >> DOIDGE... >> >> >> >> Can anyone verify that the parents of the above Martha HANCOCK nee DOIDGE >> are indeed Richard DOIDGE and Mary BALHATCHET? >> >> >> >> If anyone is researching this same family... Who are the parents of >> Richard >> DOIDGE?... i.e. Martha's paternal grandparents... >> >> >> >> Although my direct DOIDGE ancestors are from Cornwall and Devon and my >> direct HANCOCK ancestor is from Cornwall... I have not, as yet, connected >> the dots to either this John Henry HANCOCK or Martha DOIDGE... >> >> >> >> Hilton Doidge >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6439 - Release Date: 12/21/13 >

First of all, Happy New Year to everyone! I know it’s a long shot but maybe somebody has come across a diary or journal about the areas around these parishes. I know of no relevant published books and have trawled through “British manuscript diaries of the 19th century: an annotated listing”, to no avail. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. I’ll be in the UK next summer so could read any manuscripts then- if there are any! Beth Drummond from NZ

Hi 3 degrees but sunny in Norfolk , have a very happy new year !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 4:20 AM Subject: [DEV] Merry Christmas and SEARLE Afternoon to all, I do hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas, we took the van to Copeton Waters and nearly died in the heat. Arrived in a sweltering 38° and did nothing for a week but flop about in over 35° every other day, tomorrow is supposed to be worse so we packed up early and came home. We did see the flooding on TV in England so hope that none of our Listers were badly affected. Thank you to everyone who helped me with George Reed SEARLE, especially Tim who tracked him down. I did take my 3 Towns CD with me and I did think I had found more connections and who the likely parents could have been. Unfortunately where we went there was no Internet service so had to twiddle my thumbs and grumble over this. But I did get to clean up a lot and do some merging/unmerging etc. Regards Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is Betty Prout's daughter. I wanted to let this group know that mom passed away on Dec. 11th. I know she really enjoyed this group. Regards, Janette Square

Hello List, We have traced our HOLMES ancestry to Harpford Parish, Devon, where a Robert HOLMES married a Mary Bishop, 15 April, 1770. Their children: Thomas 1771 - 1850; Elizabeth 1772 - 1772; Ann 1773; John 1776 - 1844; Robert 1778; James 1782 Both Thomas and James went over to Seaton/Beer Parish, Devon, where James married Lucy Puttam, 1808, and Thomas married Ann Batstone Miller (Widow), 1801. Ann died and he later married Mary Ann Drew, of Colyton Parish. Thomas and Ann had: Thomas - 1802; James - 1804; Mary Ann - 1806 - Robert 1808. Thomas and Mary Ann had: Elizabeth 1816 - 1883; Willaim 1817; Noah 1819 - 1900; Fannie Bishop 1821 -: John 1823 - ; Henry Bishop - 1825; Joseph - 1828; Charlotte - 1835 James and Lucy had: Elizabeth - 1809 - 1866; Robert - 1811; Lucy - 1815 - 1891; James - 1816 - 1882; Wiliam Puttam - 1818 - 1875; Mary 1820; Thomas - 1822; Charlotte 1825 - 1892; Samuel 1826 - 1826; Sarah - 1827 John Holmes married Hannah Patch of Venn Ottery,Devon and they had several children, in Harpford, and Venn Ottery. No additional information discovered regarding Robert Holmes, son of Robert and Mary, Nee Bishop. Any ideas, information, contacts, will be very much appreciated. A Happy New Year is wished for all. Thanks for your reply. Regards, Wayne Stewart Holmes, DFHS #921 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just updated my personal Mitchelmore web site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mitchelmore/Mitchelmore following a recent discovery that takes us back to Peter MUCHMORE born about 1630 in Stokenham, Devon. I'd be happy to hear from anyone interested in the history of the M*CH*MOREs or the South Hams area of Devon who may be able to correct or add to my information. All the best for 2014 to all relatives and family history researchers! Mike  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Mitchelmore Wahroonga NSW, Australia

I so much second that. And now that Xmas is over for us down here in the Antipodes, I would like to wish every one with questions, and all those that answer them, and EVERYONE who gives so freely of their time, a wonderful. Peaceful, and Healthy 2014 Marion Sunny Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: liverpud Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:10 AM To: DEVON-L Subject: [DEV] Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year & Happy Holidays To all the wonderful volunteers, administrators and friends I have made on these lists, I would not have got this far in my family history. Thank you so much, Edna - snowy, icy, sunny Ottawa ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi: Please EVERYONE, adhere to the stricture in the GENUKI/Devon's "Frequently Asked Questions" - "If you wish to complain or comment unfavourably about some other subscriber please do so directly to the subscriber and/or to the list owner or moderators - NOT to the entire list, which just exacerbates the problem. . . Similarly, the list is not an appropriate place for critical comments about archives and other organisations, e.g. regarding their policies concerning access to information they possess which would be useful to genealogists." I should not have had to post such an ADMIN message on Christmas Day, of all days! Cheers Brian Randell [Please excuse brevity - sent from my iPad] email: Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> tel: +(44)191 222 7923

Blaine: The best way to find what you are looking for is to visit the appropriate record office and sit with the catalogue, then order in the documents you think would do the trick, then spend countless hours going through each one. The staff will assist you to find the right documents. This is not so hard as you think. We visited the record office on a number of occasions from Canada. We fly in and out of Exeter airport, so make a point of being at Exeter however many days ahead of flight as we think we need to research the documents we are after. We find that combining holidays with research it works out a lot cheaper than ordering cert after cert and getting nowhere fast!!. Personal research is the only way to find what you want. They say only 1% of documentation is on the internet - and I'd believe it. You have to go where the records are. Save up and go to Devon Record office (either of them) as soon as you can. If you live in UK there is no excuse not to. Sher Canada

Merry Christmas and thanks for your reply Terry... I actually put in a request, to the DFHS, for a number of Computer Printouts early Dec., received a quote and intend purchasing them in the New Year... Regards Hilton Doidge New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Leaman Sent: Tuesday, 24 December 2013 1:29 a.m. To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Martha DOIDGE born c1854 Plymouth m John Henry HANCOCK bornc1851 > Devon Family History Society has BMD indexes which > include 264 Doidge bapts between 1813-1839 , and 254 marriages 1754-1812, > and a further 135 marriages 1813- 1837. This is very good value and it > would be worth it to get all of these entries. You may have left it too > late this year to get the DFHS printouts but you could put in a request . Yes, sorry, Devon FHS volunteers are now on a Christmas break- normal service resumes on 7th January 2014. If you want to put in a request for a quotation, please go to http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/indexes.htm, fill in the form and it will be dealt with as soon as we re-open. Terry Devon FHS working from home.

Oh it is the season to be jolly. Thanks to all the helpful and wonderful people on the Devon list.... Peace to All, Edna - sunny and frosty Ottawa

Merry Christmas Jon... Thank you for your reply... I am still trying to work out what this Mary's maiden name was... Regards Hilton -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jon Sent: Monday, 23 December 2013 11:17 p.m. To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Martha DOIDGE born c1854 Plymouth m John Henry HANCOCK bornc1851 Hi Hilton, I have no link to either of the families you mention, but if you check back to the 1851 census you’ll find Mary with her husband Richard and their first child Charles. Hope this helps, Jon ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

.....and from me, MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE. Terry On 25/12/2013 09:57, Brian Randell wrote: > Hi Everyone: > > Let me second Maureen's comments. > > I'm away from home, computer, GENUKI/Devon and the Devon Wills Project for a few days, enjoying a Christmas Break with my wife on the beautiful Northumbrian coast - having temporarily (almost) completely caught up with the efforts of the numerous splendid volunteers who keep providing me with information for GENUKI/Devon and DWP! > > Merry Christmas everyone. > > Brian Randell > > [Please excuse brevity - sent from my iPad] > > email: Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk > tel: +(44)191 222 7923 > > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 18:53, "maureen.selley1@homecall.co.uk" <maureen.selley1@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > >> Christmas Greetings to all of you with Devon interests who post here, and to >> all those who answer with such goodwill, skill and knowledge. >> >> We really appreciate your contact with us through Devon-L, Genuki-Devon, >> Devon FHS's WWW Board, our website, shop, Facebook page, Twitter, Tree House >> and the Devon Family Historian. We wish you all every success with your >> Devon research in 2014. >> >> Of course, all this is only possible because of the dedicated efforts of all >> volunteers, who work tirelessly to support the Society and Genuki-Devon >> throughout the year. >> >> A very happy and peaceful Christmas to you all, and here's looking forward >> to a happy and healthy 2014. >> >> Maureen >> >> Maureen Selley >> Chairman, Devon FHS >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi, I should be munching through the first of many boxes of Christmas chocs, but am so incensed at your remarks about DFHS website and organisation that I have to say you are completely wrong Of all the counties in England , Devon has probably the best online resources of any . Your best bet is to buy the cd of the Deanery of Plympton giving the bmb of those parishes which include Brixton, Plymstock and Plympton ....It is perfectly clear what is on the cd from the various parish pages on genuki which list exhaustively the dates and events covered for each parish . This below is on the Briston genuki page. An index of baptisms, marriages and burials in the Deanery of Plympton. with photographs of the churches and extracts from White's Devonshire Directory 1850 and The National Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland (1868), CD-ROM, Exeter, Devon FHS (2007). [Brixton: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Cornwood: Bapt (1813-1840), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1838), Ermington: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1838), Bur (1813-1837 ), Harford: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1755-1837), Bur (1813-1838), Holbeton: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Ivybridge: Bapt (1835-1840), Mar (1835-1840), Bur (1836-1840), Kingston: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1836), Bur (1813-1837), Modbury: Bapt (1813-1840), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Newton Ferrers: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1836), Bur (1813-1837)), North Huish: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Plympton St. Mary: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Plympton St. Maurice: Bapt (1813-1840), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Plymstock: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Revelstoke: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837), Shaugh Prior: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1835), Ugborough: Bapt (1813-1840), Mar (1754-1841), Bur (1813-1837), Wembury: Bapt (1813-1839), Mar (1612-1837), Bur (1813-1840), Yealmpton: Bapt (1813-1840), Mar (1754-1837), Bur (1813-1837)] And not everything survived , you seem to believe that all pieces of paper survived from a couple of hundred years ago . They didn`t . And your illegitimate ancestor was one of tens of thousands of similarly born children . If there are no bastardy orders for Brixton then perhaps it hasn`t survived or perhaps the father agreed privately to provide or the family had sufficient to bring up the child without parish help . There are endless permutations . You ask for more suggestions and mine , not very Christmassy , would be to forget this quest for what may be a non existent item !!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blaine Sanders" <utvairs@yahoo.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] Finding Corroborating Evidence... Thank you to all who have given me excellent advice on this subject. Most of the suggestions I have already tried without success. I have searched A2A exhaustively, and only come up with 1 entry that may possibly be related. I am specifically looking for court documents to try and prove or disprove parentage of an illegitimate child, born either in Brixton or Plymstock in 1772 - 1774. This catalogue seems to be what I need for Brixton: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=028-723&cid=0#0 but it doesn't go back far enough. I can't seem to find a like collection for Plymstock. I have found nothing on GENUKI for the parishes I am interested in. None of them have an OPC that I am aware of, unless they fall under a larger parish. I have googled my heart out looking for a searchable index of the Brixton registry covering 1727 - 1812, to no avail. Neither FamilySearch nor FMP have this registry. All I have left to try, as near as I can tell, are the paid sources. I looked into the DFHS some time ago, I think they might have some information that would be useful to me... But their website is poorly done, and doesn't give enough information. I seem to recall sending an email asking for more information on what is contained on the CD's they offer, and never got a reply back. I have learned that I can access Ancestry.com for free through my local LDS FH library, but I haven't yet had the opportunity to get there. THanks for all the help. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Sincerely, Blaine ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Edna, And a Very Happy Christmas, and New Year to you and yours way up there in snowy, icy, sunny Ottawa, from a sunny, Warm San Antonio, Texas. Tanks for all the help you always give. Wayne Holmes In a message dated 12/25/2013 8:11:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, liverpud-49@rogers.com writes: To all the wonderful volunteers, administrators and friends I have made on these lists, I would not have got this far in my family history. Thank you so much, Edna - snowy, icy, sunny Ottawa ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone: Let me second Maureen's comments. I'm away from home, computer, GENUKI/Devon and the Devon Wills Project for a few days, enjoying a Christmas Break with my wife on the beautiful Northumbrian coast - having temporarily (almost) completely caught up with the efforts of the numerous splendid volunteers who keep providing me with information for GENUKI/Devon and DWP! Merry Christmas everyone. Brian Randell [Please excuse brevity - sent from my iPad] email: Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk tel: +(44)191 222 7923 On 24 Dec 2013, at 18:53, "maureen.selley1@homecall.co.uk" <maureen.selley1@homecall.co.uk> wrote: > Christmas Greetings to all of you with Devon interests who post here, and to > all those who answer with such goodwill, skill and knowledge. > > We really appreciate your contact with us through Devon-L, Genuki-Devon, > Devon FHS's WWW Board, our website, shop, Facebook page, Twitter, Tree House > and the Devon Family Historian. We wish you all every success with your > Devon research in 2014. > > Of course, all this is only possible because of the dedicated efforts of all > volunteers, who work tirelessly to support the Society and Genuki-Devon > throughout the year. > > A very happy and peaceful Christmas to you all, and here's looking forward > to a happy and healthy 2014. > > Maureen > > Maureen Selley > Chairman, Devon FHS > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message