I believe Alvington and Allington are interchangeable.A few of the 'old boys' still refer to West Alvington as West Allington  Sandra Rhymes ----- Original Message ----- From: devon@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Wed, 1 Jan 2014 11:13:21 -0000 Subject:[DEV] Where is East Alvington? [re Agnes LANGMEAD] Hi Brian , Devon place names does not have an East Alvington at all . It has West Alvington as a parish on its own .....and East Allington is a parish on its own , with South Allington seems to be part of Chivelstone . . life is hard . soften it with a cat =^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Randell" To: "B. Edmonds" Cc: ; "Brian Randell" Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [DEV] Where is East Alvington? [re Agnes LANGMEAD] > Hi Bev: > > Many thanks - that seems pretty conclusive in my view, so I will continue > to assume that East Alvington is in fact East Allington. > > Cheers > > Brian > > On 31 Dec 2013, at 20:35, B. Edmonds wrote: > >> Brian >> >> The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South >> Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I >> checked]. The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials >> is almost unreadable so they are no help.? >> >> But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- >> >> Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 >> >> Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, >> generally Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes >> even sooner. >> >> Regards >> Bev >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Brian Randell" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:01 AM >> To: >> Cc: "Brian Randell" ; "Joy Langdon" >> ; "B. Edmonds" >> Subject: Where is East Alvington? >> >>> Hi: >>> >>> I have been assuming that the East Alvington in the thread "Agnes >>> LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of Devon1642" is in fact a >>> reference to the parish East Allington. >>> >>> Now I wonder whether it is in fact the hamlet "Allington or Alvington, >>> East, a hamlet in Chivelstone parish, Devonshire, 5 1/2 miles SE of >>> Kingsbridge" - (Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England >>> and Wales, 1894-5 - see >>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11-up9ZYiVixHqph37QxKxkZQOAO5F&url=http%3A%2F%2Fukga.org%2Fengland%2FDevon%2Ftowns%2FEastAlvington.html) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brian Randell >>> >>> >>> On 30 Dec 2013, at 22:24, B. Edmonds wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Joy, just what I wanted. Bev >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Joy Langdon" >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:56 AM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>>> Devon1642 >>>> >>>>> Here it is Bev: >>>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11Y0h7CqMeP91NYFCLy7mGGLSEx9vL&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalarchives.gov.uk%2Fpalaeography%2Fpdf%2Fdoc_16.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Joy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: B. Edmonds >>>>> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com >>>>> Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013, 21:36 >>>>> Subject: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>>>> Devon >>>>> 1642 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Morning all, >>>>> >>>>> Another problem for me this morning, I cannot find this under A2A, I >>>>> do >>>>> have a printout of the Will but I cannot find it transcribed on Genuki >>>>> under >>>>> East Allington or West Alvington. >>>>> >>>>> But it is recorded in the Wills Project on Genuki so I know it exists. >>>>> I >>>>> am >>>>> not related, just found it when searching for other things in my >>>>> files. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> National Archives >>>>> Palaeography >>>>> >>>>> Transcript - Document 16 >>>>> Records of Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Letters of Administration >>>>> with >>>>> will annexed for Agnes Langmead, dated 9 November 1642 >>>>> Catalogue Ref: PROB 11/282 quire 525 >>>>> >>>>> It then transcribes the Will, for Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in >>>>> the >>>>> Countie of Devon >>>>> >>>>> Hoping someone can find it again for me. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Bev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11naaLDXBPmhJZBbgfE3QVd8gkL4YQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2FDEV%2F ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11Hnez_hQpEiZiPh05zFfNUjo1-WRa&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.devonfhs.org.uk%2F ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11RpPw0jTBAicoruQQjjQyZt0_o67B&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FDEVON%2F >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11naaLDXBPmhJZBbgfE3QVd8gkL4YQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2FDEV%2F ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11Hnez_hQpEiZiPh05zFfNUjo1-WRa&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.devonfhs.org.uk%2F ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11RpPw0jTBAicoruQQjjQyZt0_o67B&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FDEVON%2F >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 2012.02247 / Virus Database: 3658/6461 - Release Date: >>>>> 12/30/13 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11naaLDXBPmhJZBbgfE3QVd8gkL4YQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2FDEV%2F ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11Hnez_hQpEiZiPh05zFfNUjo1-WRa&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.devonfhs.org.uk%2F ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11RpPw0jTBAicoruQQjjQyZt0_o67B&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FDEVON%2F >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, >>> NE1 7RU, UK >>> EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 >>> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = >>> http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11u7vqDQSVMWPzdNNCOFF3QZd7ivXL&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2Fpeople%2Fbrian.randell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6463 - Release Date: >>> 12/31/13 >>> > > > -- > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, > NE1 7RU, UK > EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 > FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11u7vqDQSVMWPzdNNCOFF3QZd7ivXL&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2Fpeople%2Fbrian.randell > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11naaLDXBPmhJZBbgfE3QVd8gkL4YQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2FDEV%2F ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11Hnez_hQpEiZiPh05zFfNUjo1-WRa&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.devonfhs.org.uk%2F ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11RpPw0jTBAicoruQQjjQyZt0_o67B&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FDEVON%2F > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11naaLDXBPmhJZBbgfE3QVd8gkL4YQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgenuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk%2FDEV%2F ) and the Devon FHS (http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11Hnez_hQpEiZiPh05zFfNUjo1-WRa&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.devonfhs.org.uk%2F ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://secure-web.cisco.com/auth=11RpPw0jTBAicoruQQjjQyZt0_o67B&url=http%3A%2F%2Farchiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fth%2Findex%2FDEVON%2F ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bev When trying to find a location in the UK, our Ordnance Survey maps are invaluable. All the places shown on the 1:50,000 maps are indexed and you can search on this site: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ If you search for Liverton, you'll find 3 entries in Devon. One is a farm near Exmouth, but the other two are in the area that you're interested in. The links take you to the 1:50,000 OS map (zoom level 4), and if you zoom in another layer it takes you to the 1:25,000 map which is detailed enough to show field boundaries and in this case shows 'Old Leys Wood' but does not name the actual farm (unusual). There are buildings near the wood which look likely, so zoom in again and you'll see them marked as 'Old Leys Farm'. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=280558&Y=75394&A=Y&Z=106 Now that you have a location you can look at the Historical maps for the area on http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html Just copy the coordinates from the Streetmap webpage (280558,75394) and enter them on the Old Maps website, then select from the various available maps on the right hand side of the page - the 1:2,500 are the most detailed and make sure you zoom in to see the best detail. >From this you'll see that back in 1905 it was known as 'Old Lays' farm/wood so this may help with research. The other thing that I like to do (and you probably already know about) is to take a virtual stroll down the road using Google maps or Earth... http://tinyurl.com/p6gu7ma With best wishes Kate > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of B. Edmonds > Sent: 01 January 2014 05:16 > To: DEVON@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Mary Jane VOOGHT [SMERDON] died 1952 > > I am stuck again. > > Does anyone know where Old Leys Farm, Liverton is? > Liverton is not in the Gazatteer so assume it is meant to Tiverton. > > The name is from the Index to Ancestry Wills, which now I cannot find > to double check, somewhere on a memory stick I suppose. She died 17 Dec > 1952 and I would love to know where she is buried also. Her husband I > believe is Sydney John VOOGHT born 1870 at East Ogwell, anyone have his > birth date please? He died 21 Mar 1917 at Rattery, and assume he is > buried there. > > They married Mar Q 1893 at East Stonehouse. > > I am no good with Google maps, they confuse me. > > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth: Thanks Cheers Brian On 1 Jan 2014, at 11:13, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi Brian , Devon place names does not have an East > Alvington at all . It has West Alvington as a parish on its own .....and > East Allington is a parish on its own , with South Allington seems to be > part of Chivelstone . . > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> > To: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> > Cc: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [DEV] Where is East Alvington? [re Agnes LANGMEAD] > > >> Hi Bev: >> >> Many thanks - that seems pretty conclusive in my view, so I will continue >> to assume that East Alvington is in fact East Allington. >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> On 31 Dec 2013, at 20:35, B. Edmonds wrote: >> >>> Brian >>> >>> The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South >>> Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I >>> checked]. The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials >>> is almost unreadable so they are no help.? >>> >>> But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- >>> >>> Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 >>> >>> Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, >>> generally Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes >>> even sooner. >>> >>> Regards >>> Bev >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:01 AM >>> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >>> Cc: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk>; "Joy Langdon" >>> <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>; "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> >>> Subject: Where is East Alvington? >>> >>>> Hi: >>>> >>>> I have been assuming that the East Alvington in the thread "Agnes >>>> LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of Devon1642" is in fact a >>>> reference to the parish East Allington. >>>> >>>> Now I wonder whether it is in fact the hamlet "Allington or Alvington, >>>> East, a hamlet in Chivelstone parish, Devonshire, 5 1/2 miles SE of >>>> Kingsbridge" - (Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England >>>> and Wales, 1894-5 - see >>>> http://ukga.org/england/Devon/towns/EastAlvington.html) >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Brian Randell >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 Dec 2013, at 22:24, B. Edmonds wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Joy, just what I wanted. Bev >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:56 AM >>>>> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>>>> Devon1642 >>>>> >>>>>> Here it is Bev: >>>>>> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/pdf/doc_16.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> Joy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> >>>>>> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013, 21:36 >>>>>> Subject: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>>>>> Devon >>>>>> 1642 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Morning all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Another problem for me this morning, I cannot find this under A2A, I >>>>>> do >>>>>> have a printout of the Will but I cannot find it transcribed on Genuki >>>>>> under >>>>>> East Allington or West Alvington. >>>>>> >>>>>> But it is recorded in the Wills Project on Genuki so I know it exists. >>>>>> I >>>>>> am >>>>>> not related, just found it when searching for other things in my >>>>>> files. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> National Archives >>>>>> Palaeography >>>>>> >>>>>> Transcript - Document 16 >>>>>> Records of Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Letters of Administration >>>>>> with >>>>>> will annexed for Agnes Langmead, dated 9 November 1642 >>>>>> Catalogue Ref: PROB 11/282 quire 525 >>>>>> >>>>>> It then transcribes the Will, for Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in >>>>>> the >>>>>> Countie of Devon >>>>>> >>>>>> Hoping someone can find it again for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Bev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>>> and >>>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>>> and >>>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6461 - Release Date: >>>>>> 12/30/13 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, >>>> NE1 7RU, UK >>>> EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 >>>> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = >>>> http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6463 - Release Date: >>>> 12/31/13 >>>> >> >> >> -- >> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, >> NE1 7RU, UK >> EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 >> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

So it was Teresa, I should have read the Will to the end. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Teresa Goatham" <teresa@goatham.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 11:21 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Where is East Alvington? > Bev, > The will was *written* in Nov 1642, which was of course before March > 10th 1642. > The TNA copy shows Probate granted 1658 but if you read the probate > statement you'll see why. I guess it would have 1st been granted soon > after her death, but in Bishop's or Archdeacon's court, so that copy > will have been lost in WW2. > > Teresa > > > On 31/12/2013 20:36, devon-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 06:36:21 +1000 >> From: "B. Edmonds"<beverley@yourisp.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Where is East Alvington? >> To:<DEVON@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <F128DA7C9E2C460ABD0F7527B9BD310D@AthlonX2260> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi Brian >> >> The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South >> Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I >> checked]. >> The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials is >> almost unreadable so they are no help.? >> >> But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- >> >> Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 >> >> Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, >> generally >> Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes even >> sooner. >> >> Regards >> Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6465 - Release Date: 12/31/13 >

Hi Brian , Devon place names does not have an East Alvington at all . It has West Alvington as a parish on its own .....and East Allington is a parish on its own , with South Allington seems to be part of Chivelstone . . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> To: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Cc: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [DEV] Where is East Alvington? [re Agnes LANGMEAD] > Hi Bev: > > Many thanks - that seems pretty conclusive in my view, so I will continue > to assume that East Alvington is in fact East Allington. > > Cheers > > Brian > > On 31 Dec 2013, at 20:35, B. Edmonds wrote: > >> Brian >> >> The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South >> Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I >> checked]. The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials >> is almost unreadable so they are no help.? >> >> But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- >> >> Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 >> >> Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, >> generally Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes >> even sooner. >> >> Regards >> Bev >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:01 AM >> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk>; "Joy Langdon" >> <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>; "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> >> Subject: Where is East Alvington? >> >>> Hi: >>> >>> I have been assuming that the East Alvington in the thread "Agnes >>> LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of Devon1642" is in fact a >>> reference to the parish East Allington. >>> >>> Now I wonder whether it is in fact the hamlet "Allington or Alvington, >>> East, a hamlet in Chivelstone parish, Devonshire, 5 1/2 miles SE of >>> Kingsbridge" - (Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England >>> and Wales, 1894-5 - see >>> http://ukga.org/england/Devon/towns/EastAlvington.html) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brian Randell >>> >>> >>> On 30 Dec 2013, at 22:24, B. Edmonds wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Joy, just what I wanted. Bev >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:56 AM >>>> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>>> Devon1642 >>>> >>>>> Here it is Bev: >>>>> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/pdf/doc_16.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Joy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> >>>>> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com >>>>> Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013, 21:36 >>>>> Subject: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>>>> Devon >>>>> 1642 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Morning all, >>>>> >>>>> Another problem for me this morning, I cannot find this under A2A, I >>>>> do >>>>> have a printout of the Will but I cannot find it transcribed on Genuki >>>>> under >>>>> East Allington or West Alvington. >>>>> >>>>> But it is recorded in the Wills Project on Genuki so I know it exists. >>>>> I >>>>> am >>>>> not related, just found it when searching for other things in my >>>>> files. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> National Archives >>>>> Palaeography >>>>> >>>>> Transcript - Document 16 >>>>> Records of Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Letters of Administration >>>>> with >>>>> will annexed for Agnes Langmead, dated 9 November 1642 >>>>> Catalogue Ref: PROB 11/282 quire 525 >>>>> >>>>> It then transcribes the Will, for Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in >>>>> the >>>>> Countie of Devon >>>>> >>>>> Hoping someone can find it again for me. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Bev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>>> and >>>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6461 - Release Date: >>>>> 12/30/13 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, >>> NE1 7RU, UK >>> EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 >>> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = >>> http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6463 - Release Date: >>> 12/31/13 >>> > > > -- > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, > NE1 7RU, UK > EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 > FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bev, Happy New Year , Liverton is a part of Ilsington as you thought .........first mention in 1227 so not an ancient parish just a hamlet in the parish . Place Names of Devon pt 2 . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: [DEV] Mary Jane VOOGHT [SMERDON] died 1952 >I am stuck again. > > Does anyone know where Old Leys Farm, Liverton is? > Liverton is not in the Gazatteer so assume it is meant to Tiverton. > > The name is from the Index to Ancestry Wills, which now I cannot find to > double check, somewhere on a memory stick I suppose. She died 17 Dec 1952 > and I would love to know where she is buried also. Her husband I believe > is > Sydney John VOOGHT born 1870 at East Ogwell, anyone have his birth date > please? He died 21 Mar 1917 at Rattery, and assume he is buried there. > > They married Mar Q 1893 at East Stonehouse. > > I am no good with Google maps, they confuse me. > > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bev: Many thanks - that seems pretty conclusive in my view, so I will continue to assume that East Alvington is in fact East Allington. Cheers Brian On 31 Dec 2013, at 20:35, B. Edmonds wrote: > Brian > > The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I checked]. The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials is almost unreadable so they are no help.? > > But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- > > Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 > > Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, generally Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes even sooner. > > Regards > Bev > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:01 AM > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk>; "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>; "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> > Subject: Where is East Alvington? > >> Hi: >> >> I have been assuming that the East Alvington in the thread "Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of Devon1642" is in fact a reference to the parish East Allington. >> >> Now I wonder whether it is in fact the hamlet "Allington or Alvington, East, a hamlet in Chivelstone parish, Devonshire, 5 1/2 miles SE of Kingsbridge" - (Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England and Wales, 1894-5 - see http://ukga.org/england/Devon/towns/EastAlvington.html) >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian Randell >> >> >> On 30 Dec 2013, at 22:24, B. Edmonds wrote: >> >>> Thank you Joy, just what I wanted. Bev >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:56 AM >>> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of >>> Devon1642 >>> >>>> Here it is Bev: >>>> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/palaeography/pdf/doc_16.pdf >>>> >>>> Joy >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> >>>> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013, 21:36 >>>> Subject: [DEV] Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the Countie of Devon >>>> 1642 >>>> >>>> >>>> Morning all, >>>> >>>> Another problem for me this morning, I cannot find this under A2A, I do >>>> have a printout of the Will but I cannot find it transcribed on Genuki >>>> under >>>> East Allington or West Alvington. >>>> >>>> But it is recorded in the Wills Project on Genuki so I know it exists. I >>>> am >>>> not related, just found it when searching for other things in my files. >>>> >>>> >>>> National Archives >>>> Palaeography >>>> >>>> Transcript - Document 16 >>>> Records of Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Letters of Administration with >>>> will annexed for Agnes Langmead, dated 9 November 1642 >>>> Catalogue Ref: PROB 11/282 quire 525 >>>> >>>> It then transcribes the Will, for Agnes LANGMEAD of East Alvington in the >>>> Countie of Devon >>>> >>>> Hoping someone can find it again for me. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Bev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>>> and >>>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6461 - Release Date: 12/30/13 >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, >> NE1 7RU, UK >> EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 >> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6463 - Release Date: 12/31/13 >> -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

Hi Terry, And I have had trouble trying to explain the two above Parishes to people who used to ask for look ups in Halwell. I too was very confused when I first started research in Devon. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 9:24 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Shaldon and Sheldon > Happy new year everyone, and I wish that all your brick walls will > vanish this coming year. > I would like to mention at this stage of the new year that Shaldon and > Sheldon are two different places. I've had a few rather disgruntled people

Hi Bev, I have several members of the Vooght Family in my tree. Joseph Vooght married my 3rd great aunt Elizabeth Luscombe in 1864 somewhere in the Newton Abbot reg district (I assume East Ogwell although I haven't found a record yet). They had 5 Children Mary b. abt 1865 Ann b. abt 1867 Sydney John  b. abt 1870 d.1917  William b. abt 1872 d. 1927 Owen Luscombe b. abt 1875 d. 1955 Sydney John is listed on Ancestry in the Probate index as  Vooght Sydney John of Rattery Devonshire Farmer died 21 March 1917 Administration Exeter 15 May to Mary Jane Vooght widow Effects £468 10s I don't Have an Owen John who died in 1924 but I haven't looked in to that line as my interest is in the Luscombe line. Hope this helps All the best and happy new year Rob

Dear All, In East Allington there is a John LANGMEAD buried what looks like the 2nd May 1638 who may be her husband. No Will mentioned for him though. I did not see a marriage but then the PR's are so hard to read in the years that I need to look. Katherine LANGMEAD had a son named Michael in 1627 Nicholas LANGMEAD had a daughter named Mary bapt 1634 Nicholas and Mary had a son Robert in 1636 They had a son in 1638 [can't quite make out the name could be Nichlas ] Their daughter Agnes was born in 1640 to Mr. Nicholas Langmead and Mary Writing is mostly dreadful. Regards Bev Happy new year to everyone, hope all your wishes and dreams come true. Good health to all and I hope that your family tree grows many more branches.

Hi Brian The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I checked]. The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials is almost unreadable so they are no help.? But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, generally Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes even sooner. Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:01 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk>; "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>; "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Subject: Where is East Alvington? > Hi: > > I have been assuming that the East Alvington in the thread "Agnes LANGMEAD > of East Alvington in the Countie of Devon1642" is in fact a reference to > the parish East Allington. > > Now I wonder whether it is in fact the hamlet "Allington or Alvington, > East, a hamlet in Chivelstone parish, Devonshire, 5 1/2 miles SE of > Kingsbridge" - (Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England > and Wales, 1894-5 - see > http://ukga.org/england/Devon/towns/EastAlvington.html) >

It is possible that Dennis read what Peskett says about the ancient parish of Shaldon: SHALDON - pop 585 - Wonford hund - Archd'y of Exeter Includes Ringmore; alias names include St Nicholas Shaldon/Ringmore/Teignmouth, and Teignmouth St Nicholas. The modern church of St Peter (1902) has no separate registers. Distinguish Ringmore parish in Woodleigh Deanery. Diana On 31/12/2013, at 11:14 PM, Paul Hockie <paul.hockie@talk21.com> wrote: > Phillimore Atlas describes the parish as St Nicholas, Shaldon. Helen Harris > in her Handbook of Devon Parishes states "The village of Shaldon, on the > south side of the mouth of the Teign estuary, with the neighbouring village > of Ringmore formerly comprised the parish the parish of St Nicholas, but the > two are now known as Shaldon parish which, since 1972, also extends south in > a narrow strip along the English Channel coast towards Maidencombe" > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Liz Davidson > Sent: 31 December 2013 09:46 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] John BISHOP convicted at Exeter 1831 > > I think you'll find West Teignmouth is the parish of St James, the area of > the town close to the river. Shaldon is a separate parish on the other side > of the Teign. > > Liz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dennis bramble" <d.bramble@mypostoffice.co.uk> > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [DEV] John BISHOP convicted at Exeter 1831 > > >> To all folk following this query, West Teignmouth is now named Shaldon. >> >> Dennis Bramble. >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nearest biggish place Is Ivybridge. They would have been at that date, often using municipal graveyards. Unless he was returned to where he was born. -----Original Message----- From: B. Edmonds Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:39 AM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] William VOOGHT and Owen John VOOGHT I am also looking for a burial place for William VOOGHT, of Ugborough who died 18 Jun 1924. He is not buried at Ugborough, so where was he buried/cremated? I think he was buried/cremated on the 21 Jun 1924. Also, where was Owen John VOOGHT buried/cremated? He died Dec Q 1924 and he was of Lutton Farm, South Brent. He may have died on abt the 14th Oct. 1924. My burials do not go up quite that far. Thanks so much for any guidance or help. Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sheldon is way up in them there Blackdown Hills, and it's one of the nicest little villages around. Not that you can see a lot of it like most Devon Villages, hedges everywhere. Very tiny with a nice church. Should you visit watch out for the narrow lanes in that area, the hedge rows brush both wing mirrors. Though it nothing to do with me at all. A nice place to stay in that area is Forest Glade Caravan site. I often used one of their permanent caravans. Nice people own it as well. If you use your own caravan make sure you follow the instructions on how to get there, unless you want your caravan with everything crammed in about a foot at the rear end, that hill on the wrong route is certainly very steep. I've driven up that a few times, best hope is you don't have to stop on it, it's a clutch burner. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:38 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Shaldon and Sheldon I love Shaldon, on the opposite side of the Teign to Teignmouth, a beautiful area, never been to Sheldon! Jon ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Then of course with a deeper look on the internet there is Old Leys Farm, Liverton, Newton Abbot, Devon, TQ12 6HT -----Original Message----- From: B. Edmonds Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:16 AM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Mary Jane VOOGHT [SMERDON] died 1952 I am stuck again. Does anyone know where Old Leys Farm, Liverton is? Liverton is not in the Gazatteer so assume it is meant to Tiverton. The name is from the Index to Ancestry Wills, which now I cannot find to double check, somewhere on a memory stick I suppose. She died 17 Dec 1952 and I would love to know where she is buried also. Her husband I believe is Sydney John VOOGHT born 1870 at East Ogwell, anyone have his birth date please? He died 21 Mar 1917 at Rattery, and assume he is buried there. They married Mar Q 1893 at East Stonehouse. I am no good with Google maps, they confuse me. Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only Liverton that I know of is a village in the borough of Redcar and Cleveland and the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, England. -----Original Message----- From: B. Edmonds Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:16 AM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Mary Jane VOOGHT [SMERDON] died 1952 I am stuck again. Does anyone know where Old Leys Farm, Liverton is? Liverton is not in the Gazatteer so assume it is meant to Tiverton. The name is from the Index to Ancestry Wills, which now I cannot find to double check, somewhere on a memory stick I suppose. She died 17 Dec 1952 and I would love to know where she is buried also. Her husband I believe is Sydney John VOOGHT born 1870 at East Ogwell, anyone have his birth date please? He died 21 Mar 1917 at Rattery, and assume he is buried there. They married Mar Q 1893 at East Stonehouse. I am no good with Google maps, they confuse me. Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It doesn't actually say consecutively, though I think it means that. In 60 years of life the average time sleeping in bed is 197100 hours divide that by 24 = 8212.5 days divide that by 365 = 22.5 years. Since I'm over 60 I can better that. As she was 81 you can add on a few more years for the rest of her life. I trust she didn't suffer bed sores. I've tried a few of those when I was in hospital for a long time years ago wired up for a broken Femur. Ouch! Not nice to have.

Bev, The will was *written* in Nov 1642, which was of course before March 10th 1642. The TNA copy shows Probate granted 1658 but if you read the probate statement you'll see why. I guess it would have 1st been granted soon after her death, but in Bishop's or Archdeacon's court, so that copy will have been lost in WW2. Teresa On 31/12/2013 20:36, devon-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 06:36:21 +1000 > From: "B. Edmonds"<beverley@yourisp.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DEV] Where is East Alvington? > To:<DEVON@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F128DA7C9E2C460ABD0F7527B9BD310D@AthlonX2260> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Brian > > The PR's for Chivelstone have Allington mentioned a lot as either South > Allington or Allington but no East Allington [ in the 10 yrs that I > checked]. > The page in Chivelstone for the years that cover 1642 burials is > almost unreadable so they are no help.? > > But I did find her in East Allington buried as:-- > > Mrs Agnes LANGMEAD, widdow, was buried March 10th 1642 > > Seems a long time since her death to the Probate date in November, generally > Probate takes no longer than 4-6 weeks in those days, sometimes even sooner. > > Regards > Bev

Maybe I can at least equal it on one day. I was born Friday 24th March 1944. It appears to be a bit of a busy day. March 24th is the 365th and last day of the year in many European implementations of the Julian calendar. On the same day:- Ardeatine Caves massacre: German troops murder 335 Italian civilians in Rome. 24th March 1944, 76 Allied prisoners-of-war escaped from Stalag Luft III, a German POW camp that housed captured airmen. Their bold action was the basis for the film “The Great Escape” and was the largest mass escape of Allied prisoners during the Second World War. 24th March 1944 On this day, Maj. Gen. Orde Wingate, leader of the 77th Indian Brigade, also called the Chindits, dies in a transport plane crash. He was 41 years old. 811 British bombers attack Berlin. on the raid was 427 Squadron - Weather: Cloudy. Fair to fine later. Visibility moderate to good. The Squadron was called upon to provide fifteen aircraft this date, the target being BERLIN. This was like home week for the more experienced crews of the Squadron. Three aircraft failed to return from this operation, they were "J" JOHNNY piloted by CAN.R128270 W/O Yaworski, A.R., "K" KITTY piloted by CAN.R69918 F/S Dowdell, S.G. and "V" VIC piloted by W/0 Magdalinski W.F.. The remaining twelve aircraft successfully bombed the target and all returned to base except one aircraft that landed down south. -----Original Message----- From: B. Edmonds Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 4:41 AM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Mrs SEARLE and Thursdays [bit of trivia] Can anyone beat this? Trewman's Exeter Flying Post Thursday March 24th 1836 March 3: At her son's house at Exmouth, Mrs. Mary SEARLE, who had been a bed layer for 16 years. She was born on a Thursday baptised on a Thursday Married on a Thursday and had her first child born on a Thursday She died on a Thursday, aged 81 and was buried on Thursday, 10th instant. Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I love Shaldon, on the opposite side of the Teign to Teignmouth, a beautiful area, never been to Sheldon! Jon