And a burial of Thomas Ackland 25 Jun 1892 age 27. The link to the Appledore burial transcriptions can be found on Genuki Devon. Appledore is included in the Northam parish page. Always worth looking on Genuki Devon as a first step. Joy ________________________________ From: MR M P SPOONER <mspooner@rogers.com> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 20:15 Subject: [DEV] ACKLAND This is my first post and am looking for some direction relating to the whereabouts four Ackland children born to Thomas Ackland and his wife Jane Hamlyn. The children are Thomas Ackland b 15th 1864 at Appledore, Sarah J Ackland b 1868 at Appledore, Anne Ackland b 7th January 1874 at Appledore, and lastly Emily Ackland b Nov 2nd 1875 at Appledore. I have them on the 1881 census for Appledore and Sarah J on the 1891 census for Appledore, I believe Sarah J Ackland deceased abt 1893 according to Fee BMD. I have searched all the following census's and Free BMD for the remaining children without success, checked for emigration for the entire family and individually also without success.If anybody has any suggestions regarding the searching of these children. I am game to try anything, joining various groups, purchasing fiche or literature etc. Any of these should be of assistance in locating other distant cuisin's of mine at a latter date. At present I know just the basic rudiments of family search but I feel some more refined investigating is in order. Thank you for your time. Michael Spooner. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Bev: Thanks - so it sounds as though it is not something that DWP need concern itself with. cheers Brian On 5 Jan 2014, at 20:15, B. Edmonds wrote: > It is about Thomas COBLEY, in fact there were two of them Brian. One died > 1794 at Puddicombe Park, Spreyton, but there is no trace of his grave. There > was a dispute over his Will. The dispute reveals he was aged 99 and he was > of an earlier generation of the same family as Thomas COBLEY of Buttsford > > Bev > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Brian Randell" <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 9:02 PM > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Cc: ""devon"" <devon-L@rootsweb.com>; "Brian Randell" > <brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk> > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas COBLEY [Will 1794] > >> Hi Bev: >> >> Could you be more specific please? >> >> Is the article about Thomas Cobley, or about the will? >> >> If the latter, and it contain a transcript of the will, can I have full >> details of the article (page numbers, assuming it is not just one page >> long, and author) please, for the Devon Wills Project. >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> Is the article about >> On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:09, B. Edmonds wrote: >> >>> Cobley Thomas Spreyton DEV 1794 O ab EXE MOGT Series 2, pp. >>> 3232 - 3235 court record concerning will, administration or inventory >>> >>>> From Devon Wills >>> >>> If anyone is interested. >>> There is an article in Devon Life pg 85 Sep 2002-Vol 7 issue 3 >>> >>> Bev >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >>> and >>> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>> List archive for Devon can be found at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, >> NE1 7RU, UK >> EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 >> FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6475 - Release Date: 01/04/14 >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell
There is a burial at Appledore 8 Oct 1876 Emily Ackland aged 11 months and 6 Dec 1879 Ann Ackland aged 5 and 18 Apr 1891 Sarah Jane aged 23 http://archive.is/397Ud 1891 8 Stone Cottages, Sudbrook, Portskewett. Monmouthshire Thomas Ackland age 26, shipwright, Appledore, lodger in household of Joseph Millan. Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: MR M P SPOONER <mspooner@rogers.com> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014, 20:15 Subject: [DEV] ACKLAND This is my first post and am looking for some direction relating to the whereabouts four Ackland children born to Thomas Ackland and his wife Jane Hamlyn. The children are Thomas Ackland b 15th 1864 at Appledore, Sarah J Ackland b 1868 at Appledore, Anne Ackland b 7th January 1874 at Appledore, and lastly Emily Ackland b Nov 2nd 1875 at Appledore. I have them on the 1881 census for Appledore and Sarah J on the 1891 census for Appledore, I believe Sarah J Ackland deceased abt 1893 according to Fee BMD. I have searched all the following census's and Free BMD for the remaining children without success, checked for emigration for the entire family and individually also without success.If anybody has any suggestions regarding the searching of these children. I am game to try anything, joining various groups, purchasing fiche or literature etc. Any of these should be of assistance in locating other distant cuisin's of mine at a latter date. At present I know just the basic rudiments of family search but I feel some more refined investigating is in order. Thank you for your time. Michael Spooner. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Michael This could be your family in 1871 Census 1871 RG10/2203 Folio 46 Page 23 Schedule 136 Dart's Lane, Northam ACKLAND, John Head M 58, Ag. Lab, Newton St Petrock, Devon ACKLAND, Morrella Wife F 54, Hay? Maker, Appledore, Devon ACKLAND, Jane Daughter-In-Law F 32, Ships Carpenters Wife, Appledore, Devon ACKLAND, Thomas Grandson M 6, Scholar, Appledore, Devon Ackland, Sarah J. Granddaugther, F3, Scholar, Appledore, Devon Bird, Mary, Visitor, F 13, wear Gifford, Devon Good luck with your hunting! Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "MR M P SPOONER" <mspooner@rogers.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 8:15 PM Subject: [DEV] ACKLAND This is my first post and am looking for some direction relating to the whereabouts four Ackland children born to Thomas Ackland and his wife Jane Hamlyn. The children are Thomas Ackland b 15th 1864 at Appledore, Sarah J Ackland b 1868 at Appledore, Anne Ackland b 7th January 1874 at Appledore, and lastly Emily Ackland b Nov 2nd 1875 at Appledore. I have them on the 1881 census for Appledore and Sarah J on the 1891 census for Appledore, I believe Sarah J Ackland deceased abt 1893 according to Fee BMD. I have searched all the following census's and Free BMD for the remaining children without success, checked for emigration for the entire family and individually also without success.If anybody has any suggestions regarding the searching of these children. I am game to try anything, joining various groups, purchasing fiche or literature etc. Any of these should be of assistance in locating other distant cuisin's of mine at a latter date. At present I know just the basic rudiments of family search but I feel some more refined investigating is in order. Thank you for your time. Michael Spooner. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
While the various poor laws were not implemented equally across the country, they were not all hell holes. Just to clarify: 1. I intended early days to apply the 1834 Act, but all legislation was intended to solve problems that still vex the current government 2. Deserving poor was not subjective. It was aimed at the non able-bodied. The 1834 Act exempted the old and the infirm who could continue to receive out relief. 3. Apprenticeships were not necessarily the best form of education but they offered some form of training and abuses were the subject of a number of enquires by the Poor Law Commission 4. The reference to the Ministry of Health was intended to include its predecessor and successors. For example correspondence from 1833 to 1909 with the Poor Law Commission is in the National Archives series MH12 which has a number of documents available to download for free. 5. With reference to lunatics. At the time it was used as a medical description and remained so for well into the 20th century. From the 1850s people like Dr Andrew Reed at Earlsfield and Dr Langdon Down at Normansfield started to classify and categorise the causes of lunacy and open hospitals offering occupational therapy based on scientific investigation. Admittedly these were fee paying establishments with a few free places, but they sowed the seeds. Ironically the first strike at a National Health hospital was at the newly nationalised Normansfield when the governors wanted to change from therapy to ECT and drugs. Dr Langdon Down was, of course, a Devon Man It is worth visiting Peter Higginbothams site www.workhouses.org for a well-researched look at workhouses behind the headlines It will be interesting to see how history judges post WW2 British society and protection of the less fortunate. Paul
Thomas is still living in 1911 census and is a widower. On 1/5/2014 2:15 PM, MR M P SPOONER wrote: > This is my first post and am looking for some direction relating to the whereabouts four Ackland children born to Thomas Ackland and his wife Jane Hamlyn. The children are Thomas Ackland b 15th 1864 at Appledore, Sarah J Ackland b 1868 at Appledore, Anne Ackland b 7th January 1874 at Appledore, and lastly Emily Ackland b Nov 2nd 1875 at Appledore. I have them on the 1881 census for Appledore and Sarah J on the 1891 census for Appledore, I believe Sarah J Ackland deceased abt 1893 according to Fee BMD. I have searched all the following census's and Free BMD for the remaining children without success, checked for emigration for the entire family and individually also without success.If anybody has any suggestions regarding the searching of these children. I am game to try anything, joining various groups, purchasing fiche or literature etc. Any of these should be of assistance in locating other distant cuisin's of mine at a latter date. At present I know > just the basic rudiments of family search but I feel some more refined investigating is in order. Thank you for your time. Michael Spooner. > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
As I have photographs of the grave of James Wills Gush I can confirm that the death year of William is 1854. Hope that is of help? (William son of the above departed this life 22 Dec. ???? [that Ivy again] Aged 10 years) -----Original Message----- From: elizabeth howard Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 12:53 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] James Wills GUSH & Jane d/o Frederick and Priscilla SEARLEofSeaton and Beer Hi Bev, Gush is another very odd very local name , there was a general stores in Salterton when I was a child just called Gushs or maybe Gushes !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 3:29 AM Subject: [DEV] James Wills GUSH & Jane d/o Frederick and Priscilla SEARLE ofSeaton and Beer > Devon Life Nov 2001 - Vol 6 Issue 5 pg 162 > > Two gravestones but no indication where they are, but using 1851 census CD > and FreeBDM I have found that...... > > These family lived in Seaton & Beer and that Jane SEARLE is listed on > FreeBMD as died in Axminster R/D which covers Seaton & Beer. > > Jane SEARLE d/o Frederick and Priscilla died June 30th 1845 > > Also Eliza Jane their daughter died 19 Sept 1866?? [ivy over this bit] > aged > 16 years > > Eliza Anna d/o James & Elizabeth ?ILY died Sept 27 1864 aged 5 mths > [this > Ivy is a nuisance} > William Frederick TILY???? died [Maybe Oct] 28th 1864 aged 3 yrs > > Also another TILY son aged 3 yrs, not visable on page > > As for James Wills GUSH......is lovely monument reads [also on FreeBMD as > James GUSH] > > Gravestone next door to Jane SEARLE. > A Tribute > to > James Wills CUSH > who departed this life 21st Nov 1850 > Aged 33 yrs > > Also William son of the above departed this life 22 Dec. ???? [that Ivy > again] > Aged 10 years > > There is a widow Hannah GUSH at Seaton in 1851 who might be his widow. > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Devon Life Nov 2001 - Vol 6 Issue 5 pg 162 Two gravestones but no indication where they are, but using 1851 census CD and FreeBDM I have found that...... These family lived in Seaton & Beer and that Jane SEARLE is listed on FreeBMD as died in Axminster R/D which covers Seaton & Beer. Jane SEARLE d/o Frederick and Priscilla died June 30th 1845 Also Eliza Jane their daughter died 19 Sept 1866?? [ivy over this bit] aged 16 years Eliza Anna d/o James & Elizabeth ?ILY died Sept 27 1864 aged 5 mths [this Ivy is a nuisance} William Frederick TILY???? died [Maybe Oct] 28th 1864 aged 3 yrs Also another TILY son aged 3 yrs, not visable on page As for James Wills GUSH......is lovely monument reads [also on FreeBMD as James GUSH] Gravestone next door to Jane SEARLE. A Tribute to James Wills CUSH who departed this life 21st Nov 1850 Aged 33 yrs Also William son of the above departed this life 22 Dec. ???? [that Ivy again] Aged 10 years There is a widow Hannah GUSH at Seaton in 1851 who might be his widow. Bev
Thanks Terry Thanks for the offer but I found the 1784/1785 burial records on the fiche in the DRO, and have a bad photocopy, there is no more information. My Acklands appear to have wandered around the countryside. There are baptisms for Thomas & Elizabeth at Dunkeswell, Uffculme and Sheldon. I have always thought there could be two couples with the same names but at least one bap at Uffculme seems to belong with the Dunkeswell ones which include my line. I have visited all the places but I do not have the geography fixed in my head. I wonder if this Thomas lived in the point at the bottom of Hemyock parish where the boundary meets Uffculme, Sheldon and Dunkeswell. From there it might be closer to go to one of the other churches rather than Hemyock. What do you think? I found this record through a search of the DFHS burial index, it contains burials for Sheldon long before 1813, the earliest Ackland is 1773. So that is the source you mention, but where did the records come from? I had assumed you had provided them. Another question is have you read the Sheldon BTs and if so are they as illegible as the early PR? Best wishes from Diana On 05/01/2014, at 12:19 PM, <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > There was a Thomas Acland buried at Sheldon on 12-12-1874. Elizabeth > Acland was buried there also, on the 11-4-1875, source is listed as DFHS. I > can if you wish me to check this out further on the Microfiche, I can do, as > I have it available. I have not got this far into transcribing the > microfiche, as of yet have made no notes against these burials. There are a > number of other Aclands buried at Sheldon. > > Regards Terry Blackmore > O.P.C. Sheldon, Devon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Stevens > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:07 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > There is a Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock, age 99, buried 17 May 1827 at > Dunkeswell. > > He is the right age to be my GGGG-Grandfather who was probably born at > Hemyock ca 1728. > > Most researchers assume that Thomas was buried at Sheldon in 1784, with his > wife Elizabeth buried there the next year. But there are no ages against the > entries so it has always been a guess. > > Now I think Elizabeth might have been buried at Dunkeswell in 1791 and then > Thomas married Mary SMYTH in 1793. She was buried there in 1823 age 93. I > checked for baptisms after the marriage and found none. > > Does anyone know about this Thomas? > > Best wishes from Diana
Hi Bev, Gush is another very odd very local name , there was a general stores in Salterton when I was a child just called Gushs or maybe Gushes !!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 3:29 AM Subject: [DEV] James Wills GUSH & Jane d/o Frederick and Priscilla SEARLE ofSeaton and Beer > Devon Life Nov 2001 - Vol 6 Issue 5 pg 162 > > Two gravestones but no indication where they are, but using 1851 census CD > and FreeBDM I have found that...... > > These family lived in Seaton & Beer and that Jane SEARLE is listed on > FreeBMD as died in Axminster R/D which covers Seaton & Beer. > > Jane SEARLE d/o Frederick and Priscilla died June 30th 1845 > > Also Eliza Jane their daughter died 19 Sept 1866?? [ivy over this bit] > aged > 16 years > > Eliza Anna d/o James & Elizabeth ?ILY died Sept 27 1864 aged 5 mths > [this > Ivy is a nuisance} > William Frederick TILY???? died [Maybe Oct] 28th 1864 aged 3 yrs > > Also another TILY son aged 3 yrs, not visable on page > > As for James Wills GUSH......is lovely monument reads [also on FreeBMD as > James GUSH] > > Gravestone next door to Jane SEARLE. > A Tribute > to > James Wills CUSH > who departed this life 21st Nov 1850 > Aged 33 yrs > > Also William son of the above departed this life 22 Dec. ???? [that Ivy > again] > Aged 10 years > > There is a widow Hannah GUSH at Seaton in 1851 who might be his widow. > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi all, Jon has already said a lot of the things that I would have added to this discussion. Indeed, after the Poor Law change in 1832, workhouses were expressly made as awful as possible because the administration believed that if they were terrible they would serve as a successful deterrent to most people. I suggest anyone interested read the staff letters that have been digitized by the National Archives. I read a good number of them a few years ago and found them very eye-opening as to practices and attitudes, including that the staff attitudes varied considerably from workhouse to workhouse. Unfortunately Bideford Workhouse's early records of residents are not extant. In researching something else last year I accidentally discovered that Bradworthy seceded from Bideford Poor Law Union. Through the newspaper coverage of the event, I discovered that there was a law that 20 years after the initial Poor Law change, any parish could petition to secede from the Poor Law Union to which they had been initially assigned, under the principle that after 20 years the initial costs of building/etc the workhouse should have been paid off. Liz Loveland lovelandfamilyhistory@gmail.com
This is my first post and am looking for some direction relating to the whereabouts four Ackland children born to Thomas Ackland and his wife Jane Hamlyn. The children are Thomas Ackland b 15th 1864 at Appledore, Sarah J Ackland b 1868 at Appledore, Anne Ackland b 7th January 1874 at Appledore, and lastly Emily Ackland b Nov 2nd 1875 at Appledore. I have them on the 1881 census for Appledore and Sarah J on the 1891 census for Appledore, I believe Sarah J Ackland deceased abt 1893 according to Fee BMD. I have searched all the following census's and Free BMD for the remaining children without success, checked for emigration for the entire family and individually also without success.If anybody has any suggestions regarding the searching of these children. I am game to try anything, joining various groups, purchasing fiche or literature etc. Any of these should be of assistance in locating other distant cuisin's of mine at a latter date. At present I know just the basic rudiments of family search but I feel some more refined investigating is in order. Thank you for your time. Michael Spooner.
Nice one Jane tehe On 5 January 2014 11:19, Jane Hope <janehope-2008@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > could it be ...... and all! > > Sorry, just couldn't resist. > > > > > All the best, > > Jane > > > > From: brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk > > To: devon@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:02:11 +0000 > > CC: devon-L@rootsweb.com; brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk > > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas COBLEY [Will 1794] > > > > Hi Bev: > > > > Could you be more specific please? > > > > Is the article about Thomas Cobley, or about the will? > > > > If the latter, and it contain a transcript of the will, can I have full > details of the article (page numbers, assuming it is not just one page > long, and author) please, for the Devon Wills Project. > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > Is the article about > > On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:09, B. Edmonds wrote: > > > > > Cobley Thomas Spreyton DEV 1794 O ab > EXE MOGT Series 2, pp. > > > 3232 - 3235 court record concerning will, administration or > inventory > > > > > >> From Devon Wills > > > > > > If anyone is interested. > > > There is an article in Devon Life pg 85 Sep 2002-Vol 7 issue 3 > > > > > > Bev > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > > and > > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, > > NE1 7RU, UK > > EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 > > FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = > http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
could it be ...... and all! Sorry, just couldn't resist. All the best, Jane > From: brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:02:11 +0000 > CC: devon-L@rootsweb.com; brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas COBLEY [Will 1794] > > Hi Bev: > > Could you be more specific please? > > Is the article about Thomas Cobley, or about the will? > > If the latter, and it contain a transcript of the will, can I have full details of the article (page numbers, assuming it is not just one page long, and author) please, for the Devon Wills Project. > > Cheers > > Brian > > Is the article about > On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:09, B. Edmonds wrote: > > > Cobley Thomas Spreyton DEV 1794 O ab EXE MOGT Series 2, pp. > > 3232 - 3235 court record concerning will, administration or inventory > > > >> From Devon Wills > > > > If anyone is interested. > > There is an article in Devon Life pg 85 Sep 2002-Vol 7 issue 3 > > > > Bev > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, > NE1 7RU, UK > EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 > FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Cobley Thomas Spreyton DEV 1794 O ab EXE MOGT Series 2, pp. 3232 - 3235 court record concerning will, administration or inventory >From Devon Wills If anyone is interested. There is an article in Devon Life pg 85 Sep 2002-Vol 7 issue 3 Bev
Hi Bev: Could you be more specific please? Is the article about Thomas Cobley, or about the will? If the latter, and it contain a transcript of the will, can I have full details of the article (page numbers, assuming it is not just one page long, and author) please, for the Devon Wills Project. Cheers Brian Is the article about On 5 Jan 2014, at 01:09, B. Edmonds wrote: > Cobley Thomas Spreyton DEV 1794 O ab EXE MOGT Series 2, pp. > 3232 - 3235 court record concerning will, administration or inventory > >> From Devon Wills > > If anyone is interested. > There is an article in Devon Life pg 85 Sep 2002-Vol 7 issue 3 > > Bev > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell
I think that was one of its uses; but that amounts to "out-relief", I think. My experience is that the vast majority of out-relief payments made were to old people and to poor women (usually unmarried) about to give birth, and on those occasions the pressure to name the father could become intense so as to be able to reclaim the payments from him! -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hayes Sent: 05 January 2014 01:49 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] WORKHOUSE On 4 Jan 2014 at 14:27, Jonathan Frayne wrote: > Workhouses were > designed to be cheaper alternatives to the out-relief (or Speenhamland > System) and were invented to save money-read the Parliamentary debates > for their explicit statements to this effect! I thought the Speenhamland system was a system of subsidising low agricultural wages out of the ratepayers' pockets. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Elizabeth Thank you, now would it not be great if this was her. When LDS goes back I will look some more in Charles. I think she has a brother Edward as he is a witness to her marriage. Unless it is the father, but the writing does not look like that of an old man so am guessing it is the brother. Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 1:24 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Elizabeth DOBLE c 1783 > Hi Bev, FMP has 21 Feb 1783, Elizabeth dau of Peter and > Mary , bapt Charles Plymouth. from the transcript of the Bapt register- > Plymouth and W Devon RO collection. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hockie" <paul.hockie@talk21.com> > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: [DEV] Elizabeth DOBLE c 1783 > > >> Bev, >> >> You need to visit an LDS Family History Library or take out a >> subscription/credit for Findmypast. >> >> Paul >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of B. Edmonds >> Sent: 04 January 2014 00:43 >> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DEV] Elizabeth DOBLE c 1783 >> >> Morning, >> >> Elizabeth DOBLE according to Famsearch is bapt/born 1783. I cannot access >> this entry. Can anyone out there see who her parents are please with >> dates. >> >> Thanks heaps. >> >> Bev >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( >> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6474 - Release Date: 01/03/14 >
There was a Thomas Acland buried at Sheldon on 12-12-1874. Elizabeth Acland was buried there also, on the 11-4-1875, source is listed as DFHS. I can if you wish me to check this out further on the Microfiche, I can do, as I have it available. I have not got this far into transcribing the microfiche, as of yet have made no notes against these burials. There are a number of other Aclands buried at Sheldon. Regards Terry Blackmore O.P.C. Sheldon, Devon. -----Original Message----- From: Diana Stevens Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:07 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell There is a Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock, age 99, buried 17 May 1827 at Dunkeswell. He is the right age to be my GGGG-Grandfather who was probably born at Hemyock ca 1728. Most researchers assume that Thomas was buried at Sheldon in 1784, with his wife Elizabeth buried there the next year. But there are no ages against the entries so it has always been a guess. Now I think Elizabeth might have been buried at Dunkeswell in 1791 and then Thomas married Mary SMYTH in 1793. She was buried there in 1823 age 93. I checked for baptisms after the marriage and found none. Does anyone know about this Thomas? Best wishes from Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 4 Jan 2014 at 14:27, Jonathan Frayne wrote: > Workhouses were > designed to be cheaper alternatives to the out-relief (or Speenhamland System) > and were invented to save money-read the Parliamentary debates for their > explicit statements to this effect! I thought the Speenhamland system was a system of subsidising low agricultural wages out of the ratepayers' pockets. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525