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    1. [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell
    2. elizabeth howard
    3. Hi , if you look at the parish map for E Devon from the DFHS , you will see that Hemyock is right on the boundary with Somerset . If you have exhausted all the Devon parishes around Hemyock then perhaps it is time to search across the border to Wellington, Otterford, Churchstaunton , Sampford Arundel , West Buckland etc. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Stevens" <diagramdiana@iinet.net.au> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell Hi Terry and Paul Thanks for the helpful information. I am aware that Ag Labs had to move around for work, but Thomas was 99 when he died, I doubt he was still working. For two generations between 1736 and 1827 there are PR entries for Thomas, and his father Thomas, saying 'of Hemyock' which is why I thought the family might have a base in the area where the four parishes meet. I have no idea about the occupations of Thomas (1705) or Thomas (1728). The next Thomas (1759) died in 1837, no occupation for him either but his wife Betty left a will when she died in 1854, the probate says under £100, apart from personal stuff she had three tenements in Eastbrook (Pitminster SOM). So it is possible that the two earlier Thomas Acklands were not Ag Labs. I was trying to get a feel for the geography of the countryside, whether it was steeply up-hill towards Hemyock but easier to get to the other churches. When I visited the area I went to Dunkeswell, Kentisbeare, Sheldon & Uffculme. I missed Hemyock as I had not traced the family back that far. Driving around the narrow lanes you don't get many views of the countryside, we kept meeting tractors towing enormous trailers (of mangel wurzels?) and having to back up to a lay-by. On the map there seems to be a stream rising between Sheldon & Dunkeswell and flowing past Ashill & Uffculme to the Culm. Another stream rises on the other side of Dunkeswell and flows past Hemyock to the Culm. I have just been looking at the relief map on http://www.maps-for-free.com. It shows it is a relatively flat area despite being 'The Blackdown Hills'! The satellite view on Google looks so cool and green, a bit different to Perth, 43.3°C yesterday, down to 29.7°C overnight, only 41°C today and cooling down now. Best wishes from Diana On 12/01/2014, at 3:38 AM, paul.hockie@talk21.com wrote: > The large scale closure and consolidation of parishes, especially in the > countryside is a mainly late 20th century phenomenum as the cost of clergy > and maintenance has had to be met by dwindling congregations. What did > happen in earlier times is that agricultural workers, in particular, moved > between villages following the work, often marrying a girl from a > neighbouring village on the way. This had the effect of balancing the > working population with jobs to avoid a shortage of workers in an aging > population. It also kept the gene pool stirred. > My own ancestors formed a "circuit" in the Culm Valley. These goups of > villages seemed to have formed around the local market town. This is where > the annual hiring fares would take place. > > Paul > > From: "Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk" <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014, 3:22 > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > > It would be possible as all the places you mention are in the same area. > If > I remember it correctly the Vicar (currently Rev. Rik Peckham. The > previous > Vicar Rev Nicholas Wall having retire recently) covers the following > places > Dunkeswell, Dunkeswell Abbey, Sheldon, Luppit, and Upottery. So back a > while > they may have been using what ever church was nearest to where they > currently resided. Though I don't know exactly, but other places in the > area > may well have a similar situation with which Parishes the Vicar oversees. > I didn't supply the records for Sheldon, but have the Micrrofiche of the > Sheldon Parish Registers. Which are pretty nigh on impossible to read in > some places. Local knowledge of local names is certainly and advantage > when > reading these Registers. It is often possible for me to make out names > that > other people can't read. Currently when I get the chance I add to the list > I'm doing for Sheldon BMDs, but it is slow work as looking at a Microfiche > at my age isn't good for the eyes. Has to be done in short stints. > > Terry Blackmore > O.P.C. Sheldon Devon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Stevens > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:16 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > Thanks Terry > > Thanks for the offer but I found the 1784/1785 burial records on the fiche > in the DRO, and have a bad photocopy, there is no more information. > > My Acklands appear to have wandered around the countryside. There are > baptisms for Thomas & Elizabeth at Dunkeswell, Uffculme and Sheldon. I > have > always thought there could be two couples with the same names but at least > one bap at Uffculme seems to belong with the Dunkeswell ones which include > my line. > > I have visited all the places but I do not have the geography fixed in my > head. I wonder if this Thomas lived in the point at the bottom of Hemyock > parish where the boundary meets Uffculme, Sheldon and Dunkeswell. From > there > it might be closer to go to one of the other churches rather than Hemyock. > What do you think? > > I found this record through a search of the DFHS burial index, it contains > burials for Sheldon long before 1813, the earliest Ackland is 1773. So > that > is the source you mention, but where did the records come from? I had > assumed you had provided them. > > Another question is have you read the Sheldon BTs and if so are they as > illegible as the early PR? > > Best wishes from Diana > > On 05/01/2014, at 12:19 PM, <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> There was a Thomas Acland buried at Sheldon on 12-12-1874. Elizabeth >> Acland was buried there also, on the 11-4-1875, source is listed as DFHS. >> I >> can if you wish me to check this out further on the Microfiche, I can do, >> as >> I have it available. I have not got this far into transcribing the >> microfiche, as of yet have made no notes against these burials. There are >> a >> number of other Aclands buried at Sheldon. >> >> Regards Terry Blackmore >> O.P.C. Sheldon, Devon. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Diana Stevens >> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:07 AM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell >> >> There is a Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock, age 99, buried 17 May 1827 at >> Dunkeswell. >> >> He is the right age to be my GGGG-Grandfather who was probably born at >> Hemyock ca 1728. >> >> Most researchers assume that Thomas was buried at Sheldon in 1784, with >> his >> wife Elizabeth buried there the next year. But there are no ages against >> the >> entries so it has always been a guess. >> >> Now I think Elizabeth might have been buried at Dunkeswell in 1791 and >> then >> Thomas married Mary SMYTH in 1793. She was buried there in 1823 age 93. I >> checked for baptisms after the marriage and found none. >> >> Does anyone know about this Thomas? >> >> Best wishes from Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2014 06:45:47
    1. Re: [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs
    2. Joy Langdon
    3. There are others lurking in the archives,  I found this one when I was researching my BLOYE ancestors:   [no title] QS/128/73/4 1681 Contents: Sarah Bloy, wife of George Bloy, sailor on the Speedwell of Dartmouth, taken by pirates, ransom £70   Throughout the 17th century, pirates also raided the coastal villages.   Here is an article on the subject: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/empire_seapower/white_slaves_01.shtml  Joy ________________________________ From: Gion Tobac <giontobac@outlook.com> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014, 3:35 Subject: [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs The following were captured by the Barbary Corsairs and enslaved in North Africa. Further information can be downloaded from the A2A files. I am certain there were others with no surviving records. Kenton, Devon, about 1673, Jane, wife of Samuel Clarke, who was a mate of the Societie of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland, taken by pirates, ransom £125. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Sarah Farrant, wife of William Farrant, sailor on the Good Success of Topsham belonging to Nicholas Broking of Exeter, merchant, taken by pirates, ransom £70. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Ursula, wife of William Phippard, mariner master & part owner of the Good Defence of Topsham on a voyage to Malaga and other places, taken by pirates with two of his sons and the rest of the ship's company. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Charity Tomline, widow, mother of a son of 22, sailor on a ship from the port of Exon, taken by pirates, ransom £75. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Mary wife of Andrew Hodder, master and part owner of the Mavy of Topsham returning from Portugal, taken by pirates, ransom £180. Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Nicholas Fox on The Mary of Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Mary, wife of George Voysie, sailor on the Hannah, from Portugal to Topsham, taken by pirates. Dawlish, Devon, about 1679, Jane Crute, sister of John Crute the younger, sailor on the Hannah of  Topsham, taken by pirates. Dawlish, Devon, about 1680, ----- Pedericke, sailor on the Mary of Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. Topsham, Devon, 1680s, William Tapley, sailor on the Morleaux of Topsham on a voyage from Lisbon to Newfoundland, taken by pirates ransom £60 11s. 3d. Exeter, St. Thomas, 1681, Thomas Luckas, husbandman, father of ----, sailor on the Desire of Topsham, taken by pirates. Kenton, Devon, 1682, John Moale, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham taken by pirates (certificate). Topsham, Devon, 1682, Hannah Shower, wife of Samuel Shower, sailor in the John Pincke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom 12 pieces of eight. Topsham, Devon, about 1682, Elizabeth Mountstephen, wife of Isaac Mountstephen, sailor on a voyage to Barbados on the Royal Prince of Topsham, taken by pirates. Topsham, Devon, 1682, Mary Caldome, wife of Samuel Caldome, mate on The John Pinke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom £180. Topsham, Devon, 1682, William Off, father of Elias Off, sailor, taken by pirates. Topsham, Devon, 1682, Sarah Greene, widow, mother of Thomas Green, sailor in the John of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £80. Lympstone, Devon, 1683, (another charity brief for George Taylor) Mary Taylor, wife of George Taylor, master of the Speedwell of Topsham, taken by Pirates, ransom £120. Kenton, Devon, 1683, John Whiterow, soldier on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Mary Oliver of Powderham on behalf of Nicholas Wotten, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Catherine, wife of John Molle (sic) sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £40. Woodbury, Devon, 1683, Joan Pyne, wife of William Pyne, sailor on the Diamond of Topsham, on a voyage from Lisbon, taken by pirates, ransom £120. Topsham, Devon, 1683, Hannah Worth, wife of John Worth, sailor on the John Pinke on a voyage to Barbados, taken by pirates, ransom 400 dollars. Ottery St Mary, 1683, Christopher Mathew, fuller, father of Christopher Mathew, sailor in the Mary Pinke of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates, ransom £80. Topsham, Devon, 1684, Thomas Clement, a poor orphan, sailor on the Elizabeth of London on a voyage from London to Amsterdam to Ireland, then to Barbados and to Serenham, taken by pirates about 50 leagues west of Scilly, ransom £80.------                         ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2014 06:37:45
    1. [DEV] Where was William BURRIDGE born
    2. Judy & John Smith
    3. Happy New Year everyone. Time to try breaking down the old brick walls. Can anyone please help with locating the baptism record/birthplace of William BURRIDGE? Nov 5 1837, William BURRIDGE married Mary COWELL, by Banns (15th, 22nd, 29th October) at Exeter Holy Trinity. Both were of "Full age" & "of this Parish" living at Trinity Street Exeter. He was a labourer. His father was James BURRIDGE, also a labourer. Witnesses were Mary Ann Tremlett & John Cockrell, no addresses given. 1841: William & Mary were at Red Cow Village, Exeter St David's; William was; 25yrs, Labourer, born in Devon. He died at Exeter St David on April 11 1847, aged 33 yrs (death cert) & was buried at Exeter St David, (Church record) April 18 1847, William Burridge, 33 yrs, labourer of Red Cow Village. The 1851 Census showed Mary to have been born in Kenton & her father John Cowell was still the blacksmith there. So the only information I have to go on trying to find William Burridge's birth record is that he was born c 1813, in Devon, the son of James Burridge. I have purchased the DFHS print out for Burridges and there is one in Sandford who fits, but I am trying to find any others who may not have been transcribed by them. I don't want to trace the wrong family! If anyone has access to baptisms from around that time I would appreciate a look up please. I think I have exhausted all possibilities from here? Thank you Judy South Australia --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

    01/12/2014 06:24:28
    1. Re: [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs
    2. Diane Foster
    3. An amazing list of information. One wonders if the ransoms were paid and if not, what happened to them. No doubt they had an horrendous experience, regardless. Diane, Western Australia On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM, B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au>wrote: > Hi Gion, > > Would be great if more of this sort of thing became available. Good find. > > Bev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gion Tobac" <giontobac@outlook.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:35 PM > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs > > > The following were captured by the Barbary Corsairs and enslaved in North > > Africa. Further information can be downloaded from the A2A files. I am > > certain there were others with no surviving records. > > Kenton, Devon, about 1673, Jane, wife of Samuel Clarke, who was a mate of > > the Societie of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland, taken by pirates, > > ransom £125. > > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Sarah Farrant, wife of William Farrant, sailor on > > the Good Success of Topsham belonging to Nicholas Broking of Exeter, > > merchant, taken by pirates, ransom £70. > > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Ursula, wife of William Phippard, mariner master & > > part owner of the Good Defence of Topsham on a voyage to Malaga and other > > places, taken by pirates with two of his sons and the rest of the ship's > > company. > > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Charity Tomline, widow, mother of a son of 22, > > sailor on a ship from the port of Exon, taken by pirates, ransom £75. > > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Mary wife of Andrew Hodder, master and part owner > of > > the Mavy of Topsham returning from Portugal, taken by pirates, ransom > > £180. > > Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Nicholas Fox on The Mary of Topsham, on a voyage > > from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. > > Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Mary, wife of George Voysie, sailor on the Hannah, > > from Portugal to Topsham, taken by pirates. > > Dawlish, Devon, about 1679, Jane Crute, sister of John Crute the younger, > > sailor on the Hannah of Topsham, taken by pirates. > > Dawlish, Devon, about 1680, ----- Pedericke, sailor on the Mary of > > Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. > > Topsham, Devon, 1680s, William Tapley, sailor on the Morleaux of Topsham > > on a voyage from Lisbon to Newfoundland, taken by pirates ransom £60 11s. > > 3d. > > Exeter, St. Thomas, 1681, Thomas Luckas, husbandman, father of ----, > > sailor on the Desire of Topsham, taken by pirates. > > Kenton, Devon, 1682, John Moale, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham > > taken by pirates (certificate). > > Topsham, Devon, 1682, Hannah Shower, wife of Samuel Shower, sailor in the > > John Pincke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom > 12 > > pieces of eight. > > Topsham, Devon, about 1682, Elizabeth Mountstephen, wife of Isaac > > Mountstephen, sailor on a voyage to Barbados on the Royal Prince of > > Topsham, taken by pirates. > > Topsham, Devon, 1682, Mary Caldome, wife of Samuel Caldome, mate on The > > John Pinke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom > > £180. > > Topsham, Devon, 1682, William Off, father of Elias Off, sailor, taken by > > pirates. > > Topsham, Devon, 1682, Sarah Greene, widow, mother of Thomas Green, sailor > > in the John of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £80. > > Lympstone, Devon, 1683, (another charity brief for George Taylor) Mary > > Taylor, wife of George Taylor, master of the Speedwell of Topsham, taken > > by Pirates, ransom £120. > > Kenton, Devon, 1683, John Whiterow, soldier on the Port Marchant of > > Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Mary Oliver of Powderham > on > > behalf of Nicholas Wotten, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken > > by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Catherine, wife of John Molle (sic) > sailor > > on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £40. > > Woodbury, Devon, 1683, Joan Pyne, wife of William Pyne, sailor on the > > Diamond of Topsham, on a voyage from Lisbon, taken by pirates, ransom > > £120. > > Topsham, Devon, 1683, Hannah Worth, wife of John Worth, sailor on the > John > > Pinke on a voyage to Barbados, taken by pirates, ransom 400 dollars. > > Ottery St Mary, 1683, Christopher Mathew, fuller, father of Christopher > > Mathew, sailor in the Mary Pinke of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland > > to Bilbao, taken by pirates, ransom £80. > > Topsham, Devon, 1684, Thomas Clement, a poor orphan, sailor on the > > Elizabeth of London on a voyage from London to Amsterdam to Ireland, then > > to Barbados and to Serenham, taken by pirates about 50 leagues west of > > Scilly, ransom £80.------ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > List archive for Devon can be found at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - 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    01/12/2014 05:39:53
    1. [DEV] Mark Anthony BOZON
    2. Dave and Linda Burnett
    3. This story is a long one so I will condense it severely. My 3G Grandfather Isaac Charles Smith COLLETT married Sophia BOZON, May 19, 1807, in her home town of Stoke Damerel, Devon England. He was a Naval Officer. My fourth great grandparents Mark Anthony BOZON Jr. (1766-1846) and wife Jane WORTHONBURY are relatively easy to follow with several family events listed at Stoke Damerel and Devonport. He was an Army Officer. My search is now focused on Mark Anthony BOZON Sr. (1744-1808) and his wife Jane (birth surname unknown),who were Plymouth Navy Agents from about 1789 to 1808. Their origins seem very difficult to determine. Realizing that the stories of military people are not limited to a particular county, I would like to ask if any of the family history detectives on this list can help with a clue or suggestion. I would be happy to provide additional information to anyone who might be interested. Dave in Canada

    01/12/2014 04:35:41
    1. Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell
    2. Paul Hockie
    3. Diana, A couple of points. I did not pick up that Thomas was 99. At this age he would probably be living with a relative, usually a child or grandchild but sometimes a sister. Rarely a brother as they were not domesticated at that time. You need to work out which relative this could be remembering that most of his female descendants would be married. If Thomas was by himself and a pauper he would have been removed to his parish of settlement and his burial should have been annotated as a him being a pauper. Social convention at that time meant that the bulk of any estate went to the eldest male heir with subsequent males receiving, where possible, something to give them a living. Daughters would receive a dowry, sometimes in the form of land, but only when the there was sufficient land to ensure the continuance of the family estates or when they were they only surviving child. Widows, again where funds allowed, were left accommodation and some furniture etc. for the rest of their life which, on their death reverted to the main heir. This may have been her original dowry. The heir was also made responsible for living expenses of the widow. Unmarried daughter had a similar arrangement which created a trust for their dowry. My starting assumption would be that Betty's fortune derived from her father. See the first series of Downton for further details of the Entail. It is worth looking at the Tithe records for the property. Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana Stevens Sent: 12 January 2014 08:07 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell Hi Terry and Paul Thanks for the helpful information. I am aware that Ag Labs had to move around for work, but Thomas was 99 when he died, I doubt he was still working. For two generations between 1736 and 1827 there are PR entries for Thomas, and his father Thomas, saying 'of Hemyock' which is why I thought the family might have a base in the area where the four parishes meet. I have no idea about the occupations of Thomas (1705) or Thomas (1728). The next Thomas (1759) died in 1837, no occupation for him either but his wife Betty left a will when she died in 1854, the probate says under £100, apart from personal stuff she had three tenements in Eastbrook (Pitminster SOM). So it is possible that the two earlier Thomas Acklands were not Ag Labs. I was trying to get a feel for the geography of the countryside, whether it was steeply up-hill towards Hemyock but easier to get to the other churches. When I visited the area I went to Dunkeswell, Kentisbeare, Sheldon & Uffculme. I missed Hemyock as I had not traced the family back that far. Driving around the narrow lanes you don't get many views of the countryside, we kept meeting tractors towing enormous trailers (of mangel wurzels?) and having to back up to a lay-by. On the map there seems to be a stream rising between Sheldon & Dunkeswell and flowing past Ashill & Uffculme to the Culm. Another stream rises on the other side of Dunkeswell and flows past Hemyock to the Culm. I have just been looking at the relief map on http://www.maps-for-free.com. It shows it is a relatively flat area despite being 'The Blackdown Hills'! The satellite view on Google looks so cool and green, a bit different to Perth, 43.3°C yesterday, down to 29.7°C overnight, only 41°C today and cooling down now. Best wishes from Diana On 12/01/2014, at 3:38 AM, paul.hockie@talk21.com wrote: > The large scale closure and consolidation of parishes, especially in the countryside is a mainly late 20th century phenomenum as the cost of clergy and maintenance has had to be met by dwindling congregations. What did happen in earlier times is that agricultural workers, in particular, moved between villages following the work, often marrying a girl from a neighbouring village on the way. This had the effect of balancing the working population with jobs to avoid a shortage of workers in an aging population. It also kept the gene pool stirred. > My own ancestors formed a "circuit" in the Culm Valley. These goups of villages seemed to have formed around the local market town. This is where the annual hiring fares would take place. > > Paul > > From: "Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk" > <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014, 3:22 > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > > It would be possible as all the places you mention are in the same > area. If I remember it correctly the Vicar (currently Rev. Rik > Peckham. The previous Vicar Rev Nicholas Wall having retire recently) > covers the following places Dunkeswell, Dunkeswell Abbey, Sheldon, > Luppit, and Upottery. So back a while they may have been using what > ever church was nearest to where they currently resided. Though I > don't know exactly, but other places in the area may well have a similar situation with which Parishes the Vicar oversees. > I didn't supply the records for Sheldon, but have the Micrrofiche of > the Sheldon Parish Registers. Which are pretty nigh on impossible to > read in some places. Local knowledge of local names is certainly and > advantage when reading these Registers. It is often possible for me to > make out names that other people can't read. Currently when I get the > chance I add to the list I'm doing for Sheldon BMDs, but it is slow > work as looking at a Microfiche at my age isn't good for the eyes. Has to be done in short stints. > > Terry Blackmore > O.P.C. Sheldon Devon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Stevens > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:16 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > Thanks Terry > > Thanks for the offer but I found the 1784/1785 burial records on the > fiche in the DRO, and have a bad photocopy, there is no more information. > > My Acklands appear to have wandered around the countryside. There are > baptisms for Thomas & Elizabeth at Dunkeswell, Uffculme and Sheldon. I > have always thought there could be two couples with the same names but > at least one bap at Uffculme seems to belong with the Dunkeswell ones > which include my line. > > I have visited all the places but I do not have the geography fixed in > my head. I wonder if this Thomas lived in the point at the bottom of > Hemyock parish where the boundary meets Uffculme, Sheldon and > Dunkeswell. From there it might be closer to go to one of the other churches rather than Hemyock. > What do you think? > > I found this record through a search of the DFHS burial index, it > contains burials for Sheldon long before 1813, the earliest Ackland is > 1773. So that is the source you mention, but where did the records > come from? I had assumed you had provided them. > > Another question is have you read the Sheldon BTs and if so are they > as illegible as the early PR? > > Best wishes from Diana > > On 05/01/2014, at 12:19 PM, <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> There was a Thomas Acland buried at Sheldon on 12-12-1874. >> Elizabeth Acland was buried there also, on the 11-4-1875, source is listed as DFHS. >> I >> can if you wish me to check this out further on the Microfiche, I can >> do, as I have it available. I have not got this far into transcribing >> the microfiche, as of yet have made no notes against these burials. >> There are a number of other Aclands buried at Sheldon. >> >> Regards Terry Blackmore >> O.P.C. Sheldon, Devon. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Diana Stevens >> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:07 AM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell >> >> There is a Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock, age 99, buried 17 May 1827 at >> Dunkeswell. >> >> He is the right age to be my GGGG-Grandfather who was probably born >> at Hemyock ca 1728. >> >> Most researchers assume that Thomas was buried at Sheldon in 1784, >> with his wife Elizabeth buried there the next year. But there are no >> ages against the entries so it has always been a guess. >> >> Now I think Elizabeth might have been buried at Dunkeswell in 1791 >> and then Thomas married Mary SMYTH in 1793. She was buried there in >> 1823 age 93. I checked for baptisms after the marriage and found >> none. >> >> Does anyone know about this Thomas? >> >> Best wishes from Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/12/2014 04:27:41
    1. Re: [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs
    2. Brian Randell
    3. Hi Gion: Thanks for an interesting post. If you could provide the titles and reference numbers of the (I presume Devon Record Office) documents from which you've extracted each of these items, and perhaps details of the scope of the search that you conducted, I'd be happy to generate a web page from your listing and add it to GENUKI/Devon. Cheers Brian Randell On 12 Jan 2014, at 03:35, Gion Tobac wrote: > The following were captured by the Barbary Corsairs and enslaved in North Africa. Further information can be downloaded from the A2A files. I am certain there were others with no surviving records. > Kenton, Devon, about 1673, Jane, wife of Samuel Clarke, who was a mate of the Societie of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland, taken by pirates, ransom £125. > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Sarah Farrant, wife of William Farrant, sailor on the Good Success of Topsham belonging to Nicholas Broking of Exeter, merchant, taken by pirates, ransom £70. > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Ursula, wife of William Phippard, mariner master & part owner of the Good Defence of Topsham on a voyage to Malaga and other places, taken by pirates with two of his sons and the rest of the ship's company. > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Charity Tomline, widow, mother of a son of 22, sailor on a ship from the port of Exon, taken by pirates, ransom £75. > Topsham, Devon, 1673, Mary wife of Andrew Hodder, master and part owner of the Mavy of Topsham returning from Portugal, taken by pirates, ransom £180. > Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Nicholas Fox on The Mary of Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. > Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Mary, wife of George Voysie, sailor on the Hannah, from Portugal to Topsham, taken by pirates. > Dawlish, Devon, about 1679, Jane Crute, sister of John Crute the younger, sailor on the Hannah of Topsham, taken by pirates. > Dawlish, Devon, about 1680, ----- Pedericke, sailor on the Mary of Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. > Topsham, Devon, 1680s, William Tapley, sailor on the Morleaux of Topsham on a voyage from Lisbon to Newfoundland, taken by pirates ransom £60 11s. 3d. > Exeter, St. Thomas, 1681, Thomas Luckas, husbandman, father of ----, sailor on the Desire of Topsham, taken by pirates. > Kenton, Devon, 1682, John Moale, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham taken by pirates (certificate). > Topsham, Devon, 1682, Hannah Shower, wife of Samuel Shower, sailor in the John Pincke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom 12 pieces of eight. > Topsham, Devon, about 1682, Elizabeth Mountstephen, wife of Isaac Mountstephen, sailor on a voyage to Barbados on the Royal Prince of Topsham, taken by pirates. > Topsham, Devon, 1682, Mary Caldome, wife of Samuel Caldome, mate on The John Pinke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom £180. > Topsham, Devon, 1682, William Off, father of Elias Off, sailor, taken by pirates. > Topsham, Devon, 1682, Sarah Greene, widow, mother of Thomas Green, sailor in the John of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £80. > Lympstone, Devon, 1683, (another charity brief for George Taylor) Mary Taylor, wife of George Taylor, master of the Speedwell of Topsham, taken by Pirates, ransom £120. > Kenton, Devon, 1683, John Whiterow, soldier on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Mary Oliver of Powderham on behalf of Nicholas Wotten, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Catherine, wife of John Molle (sic) sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £40. > Woodbury, Devon, 1683, Joan Pyne, wife of William Pyne, sailor on the Diamond of Topsham, on a voyage from Lisbon, taken by pirates, ransom £120. > Topsham, Devon, 1683, Hannah Worth, wife of John Worth, sailor on the John Pinke on a voyage to Barbados, taken by pirates, ransom 400 dollars. > Ottery St Mary, 1683, Christopher Mathew, fuller, father of Christopher Mathew, sailor in the Mary Pinke of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates, ransom £80. > Topsham, Devon, 1684, Thomas Clement, a poor orphan, sailor on the Elizabeth of London on a voyage from London to Amsterdam to Ireland, then to Barbados and to Serenham, taken by pirates about 50 leagues west of Scilly, ransom £80.------ > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

    01/12/2014 03:26:59
    1. Re: [DEV] Albert Edward WEAVER = Mabel Oakley VICARY
    2. B. Edmonds
    3. Gerry I think you should send it to one of the Historical Societies in Devon so that lots of people can view it rather than have it in the hands of one person. It could end up in the trash heap and what a shame that would be. I strongly suggest that you look into that. Regards Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerry Poulton" <gpoulton@uvic.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:22 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Albert Edward WEAVER = Mabel Oakley VICARY > > Hello List > These two folk were born in Exeter (1877 and 1884, respectively) > and married in 1903. Does anyone have them in their tree, or is > anyone interested in their ancestry? > My reason for asking is this -- I am a member of the Victoria > Genealogical Society (Canada) and we have a framed document which > shows the lineage of the Weaver clan back to one Henry de Wever > around 1200 in Aston, Chester. > This is surplus to our current needs and we will be disposing of > it. However, we would dearly love to pass it on to someone in the > family, or anyone who is interested. > > Any interest? > > Gerry Poulton > > Gerry Poulton, Victoria, BC Canada > gpoulton@uvic.ca > OPC for Combeinteignhead > Member DFHS (10884), LNMFHS (3560), VGS (491) > Researching ALWARD 1700-1900, Devon > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6495 - Release Date: 01/11/14 >

    01/12/2014 02:34:27
    1. Re: [DEV] Michael LEE c 1640 & Joan EDMONDS [OOPS]
    2. B. Edmonds
    3. OOPS ?? wrong fiche, had Woodleigh out instead of West Alvington. I do have new glasses on order. And would you believe no marriages at all in June and no Michael LEE and Joan EDMONDS which I have sourced to Famsearch which seems to have an image available so will look next time I am at LDS. I need a coffee, I am a bit stressed, hubby fell from the ladder yesterday and it was panic stations all round. This morning he is like the walking wounded and ladders are banned unless I am within 2 feet of him. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 8:32 AM To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Michael LEE c 1640 & Joan EDMONDS > Morning > > Looking for anyone who may have connections to Michael LEE and Joan > EDMONDS > who married at West Alvington 5 June 1664. > > > I have not been able to find this entry in my PR's. > > But at the end of 1662 this note at the bottom of the page. > The Old Register was Burnt > so ye names ......?? ....? were upon .......?? > > Which means that the names must have been transferred from somewhere else > as > the Registers continue but hard to read which is the norm for this time > frame. > > Bev > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6495 - Release Date: 01/11/14 >

    01/12/2014 01:47:25
    1. [DEV] Michael LEE c 1640 & Joan EDMONDS
    2. B. Edmonds
    3. Morning Looking for anyone who may have connections to Michael LEE and Joan EDMONDS who married at West Alvington 5 June 1664. I have not been able to find this entry in my PR's. But at the end of 1662 this note at the bottom of the page. The Old Register was Burnt so ye names ......?? ....? were upon .......?? Which means that the names must have been transferred from somewhere else as the Registers continue but hard to read which is the norm for this time frame. Bev

    01/12/2014 01:32:19
    1. [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs
    2. Gion Tobac
    3. The following were captured by the Barbary Corsairs and enslaved in North Africa. Further information can be downloaded from the A2A files. I am certain there were others with no surviving records. Kenton, Devon, about 1673, Jane, wife of Samuel Clarke, who was a mate of the Societie of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland, taken by pirates, ransom £125. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Sarah Farrant, wife of William Farrant, sailor on the Good Success of Topsham belonging to Nicholas Broking of Exeter, merchant, taken by pirates, ransom £70. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Ursula, wife of William Phippard, mariner master & part owner of the Good Defence of Topsham on a voyage to Malaga and other places, taken by pirates with two of his sons and the rest of the ship's company. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Charity Tomline, widow, mother of a son of 22, sailor on a ship from the port of Exon, taken by pirates, ransom £75. Topsham, Devon, 1673, Mary wife of Andrew Hodder, master and part owner of the Mavy of Topsham returning from Portugal, taken by pirates, ransom £180. Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Nicholas Fox on The Mary of Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. Dawlish, Devon, 1679, Mary, wife of George Voysie, sailor on the Hannah, from Portugal to Topsham, taken by pirates. Dawlish, Devon, about 1679, Jane Crute, sister of John Crute the younger, sailor on the Hannah of Topsham, taken by pirates. Dawlish, Devon, about 1680, ----- Pedericke, sailor on the Mary of Topsham, on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates. Topsham, Devon, 1680s, William Tapley, sailor on the Morleaux of Topsham on a voyage from Lisbon to Newfoundland, taken by pirates ransom £60 11s. 3d. Exeter, St. Thomas, 1681, Thomas Luckas, husbandman, father of ----, sailor on the Desire of Topsham, taken by pirates. Kenton, Devon, 1682, John Moale, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham taken by pirates (certificate). Topsham, Devon, 1682, Hannah Shower, wife of Samuel Shower, sailor in the John Pincke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom 12 pieces of eight. Topsham, Devon, about 1682, Elizabeth Mountstephen, wife of Isaac Mountstephen, sailor on a voyage to Barbados on the Royal Prince of Topsham, taken by pirates. Topsham, Devon, 1682, Mary Caldome, wife of Samuel Caldome, mate on The John Pinke of Topsham on a voyage to Barbados taken by pirates, ransom £180. Topsham, Devon, 1682, William Off, father of Elias Off, sailor, taken by pirates. Topsham, Devon, 1682, Sarah Greene, widow, mother of Thomas Green, sailor in the John of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £80. Lympstone, Devon, 1683, (another charity brief for George Taylor) Mary Taylor, wife of George Taylor, master of the Speedwell of Topsham, taken by Pirates, ransom £120. Kenton, Devon, 1683, John Whiterow, soldier on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Mary Oliver of Powderham on behalf of Nicholas Wotten, sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates.Kenton, Devon, 1683, Catherine, wife of John Molle (sic) sailor on the Port Marchant of Topsham, taken by pirates, ransom £40. Woodbury, Devon, 1683, Joan Pyne, wife of William Pyne, sailor on the Diamond of Topsham, on a voyage from Lisbon, taken by pirates, ransom £120. Topsham, Devon, 1683, Hannah Worth, wife of John Worth, sailor on the John Pinke on a voyage to Barbados, taken by pirates, ransom 400 dollars. Ottery St Mary, 1683, Christopher Mathew, fuller, father of Christopher Mathew, sailor in the Mary Pinke of Topsham on a voyage from Newfoundland to Bilbao, taken by pirates, ransom £80. Topsham, Devon, 1684, Thomas Clement, a poor orphan, sailor on the Elizabeth of London on a voyage from London to Amsterdam to Ireland, then to Barbados and to Serenham, taken by pirates about 50 leagues west of Scilly, ransom £80.------

    01/11/2014 05:35:13
    1. Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell
    2. The large scale closure and consolidation of parishes, especially in the countryside is a mainly late 20th century phenomenum as the cost of clergy and maintenance has had to be met by dwindling congregations. What did happen in earlier times is that agricultural workers, in particular, moved between villages following the work, often marrying a girl from a neighbouring village on the way. This had the effect of balancing the working population with jobs to avoid a shortage of workers in an aging population. It also kept the gene pool stirred. My own ancestors formed a "circuit" in the Culm Valley. These goups of villages seemed to have formed around the local market town. This is where the annual hiring fares would take place. Paul ________________________________ From: "Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk" <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014, 3:22 Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell It  would be possible as all the places you mention are in the same area. If I remember it correctly the Vicar (currently Rev. Rik Peckham. The previous Vicar Rev Nicholas Wall having retire recently) covers the following places Dunkeswell, Dunkeswell Abbey, Sheldon, Luppit, and Upottery. So back a while they may have been using what ever church was nearest to where they currently resided. Though I don't know exactly, but other places in the area may well have a similar situation with which Parishes the Vicar oversees. I didn't supply the records for Sheldon, but have the Micrrofiche of the Sheldon Parish Registers. Which are pretty nigh on impossible to read in some places. Local knowledge of local names is certainly and advantage when reading these Registers. It is often possible for me to make out names that other people can't read. Currently when I get the chance I add to the list I'm doing for Sheldon BMDs, but it is slow work as looking at a Microfiche at my age isn't good for the eyes. Has to be done in short stints. Terry Blackmore O.P.C. Sheldon Devon -----Original Message----- From: Diana Stevens Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:16 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell Thanks Terry Thanks for the offer but I found the 1784/1785 burial records on the fiche in the DRO, and have a bad photocopy, there is no more information. My Acklands appear to have wandered around the countryside. There are baptisms for Thomas & Elizabeth at Dunkeswell, Uffculme and Sheldon. I have always thought there could be two couples with the same names but at least one bap at Uffculme seems to belong with the Dunkeswell ones which include my line. I have visited all the places but I do not have the geography fixed in my head. I wonder if this Thomas lived in the point at the bottom of Hemyock parish where the boundary meets Uffculme, Sheldon and Dunkeswell. From there it might be closer to go to one of the other churches rather than Hemyock. What do you think? I found this record through a search of the DFHS burial index, it contains burials for Sheldon long before 1813, the earliest Ackland is 1773. So that is the source you mention, but where did the records come from? I had assumed you had provided them. Another question is have you read the Sheldon BTs and if so are they as illegible as the early PR? Best wishes from Diana On 05/01/2014, at 12:19 PM, <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >    There was a Thomas Acland buried at Sheldon on 12-12-1874. Elizabeth > Acland was buried there also, on the 11-4-1875, source is listed as DFHS. > I > can if you wish me to check this out further on the Microfiche, I can do, > as > I have it available. I have not got this far into transcribing the > microfiche, as of yet have made no notes against these burials. There are > a > number of other Aclands buried at Sheldon. > > Regards Terry Blackmore > O.P.C. Sheldon, Devon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Stevens > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:07 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > There is a Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock, age 99, buried 17 May 1827 at > Dunkeswell. > > He is the right age to be my GGGG-Grandfather who was probably born at > Hemyock ca 1728. > > Most researchers assume that Thomas was buried at Sheldon in 1784, with > his > wife Elizabeth buried there the next year. But there are no ages against > the > entries so it has always been a guess. > > Now I think Elizabeth might have been buried at Dunkeswell in 1791 and > then > Thomas married Mary SMYTH in 1793. She was buried there in 1823 age 93. I > checked for baptisms after the marriage and found none. > > Does anyone know about this Thomas? > > Best wishes from Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/11/2014 12:38:32
    1. [DEV] Albert Edward WEAVER = Mabel Oakley VICARY
    2. Gerry Poulton
    3. Hello List These two folk were born in Exeter (1877 and 1884, respectively) and married in 1903. Does anyone have them in their tree, or is anyone interested in their ancestry? My reason for asking is this -- I am a member of the Victoria Genealogical Society (Canada) and we have a framed document which shows the lineage of the Weaver clan back to one Henry de Wever around 1200 in Aston, Chester. This is surplus to our current needs and we will be disposing of it. However, we would dearly love to pass it on to someone in the family, or anyone who is interested. Any interest? Gerry Poulton Gerry Poulton, Victoria, BC Canada gpoulton@uvic.ca OPC for Combeinteignhead Member DFHS (10884), LNMFHS (3560), VGS (491) Researching ALWARD 1700-1900, Devon

    01/11/2014 07:22:12
    1. Re: [DEV] TURNER, Mary Ann - Head Teacher of Plymouth Public Girls' School
    2. Margaret Baensch
    3. Thank you for your kind offer Veronica. I was looking for a Mrs. Mary Ann Turner (nee Hylton/Hilton) who was born c 1849, and was married in Plymouth, but as Elizabeth replied me in her post, this Mary Ann Turner was a Miss, not a Mrs, so I don't think she is the person I am looking for. Margaret On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Vernmp <vernmp@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > I was a pupil at Public from 1958 to 1960. Not sure what sort of info you > would like, but willing to answer anything I can. Veronica > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Margaret Baensch" <margnb@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:23 PM > To: <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DEV] TURNER,Mary Ann - Head Teacher of Plymouth Public Girls' > School > > > Hello to all Listers & a Happy New Year > > > > I am seeking information about a Mary Ann TURNER (nee Hylton/Hilton). > > > > In the 1911 census index there is the following entry - > > Mary Ann TURNER - age 64 - School Mistress Head Teacher of Plymouth > Public > > (girl) - Devon - Born c 1847 Plymouth Devon > > > > Unfortunately it does not specify if she is a Miss or a Mrs. > > > > Does anyone have any information about this school, and in particular > this > > head mistress? > > > > Margaret in Australia > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > List archive for Devon can be found at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/11/2014 02:57:28
    1. Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell
    2. It would be possible as all the places you mention are in the same area. If I remember it correctly the Vicar (currently Rev. Rik Peckham. The previous Vicar Rev Nicholas Wall having retire recently) covers the following places Dunkeswell, Dunkeswell Abbey, Sheldon, Luppit, and Upottery. So back a while they may have been using what ever church was nearest to where they currently resided. Though I don't know exactly, but other places in the area may well have a similar situation with which Parishes the Vicar oversees. I didn't supply the records for Sheldon, but have the Micrrofiche of the Sheldon Parish Registers. Which are pretty nigh on impossible to read in some places. Local knowledge of local names is certainly and advantage when reading these Registers. It is often possible for me to make out names that other people can't read. Currently when I get the chance I add to the list I'm doing for Sheldon BMDs, but it is slow work as looking at a Microfiche at my age isn't good for the eyes. Has to be done in short stints. Terry Blackmore O.P.C. Sheldon Devon -----Original Message----- From: Diana Stevens Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:16 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell Thanks Terry Thanks for the offer but I found the 1784/1785 burial records on the fiche in the DRO, and have a bad photocopy, there is no more information. My Acklands appear to have wandered around the countryside. There are baptisms for Thomas & Elizabeth at Dunkeswell, Uffculme and Sheldon. I have always thought there could be two couples with the same names but at least one bap at Uffculme seems to belong with the Dunkeswell ones which include my line. I have visited all the places but I do not have the geography fixed in my head. I wonder if this Thomas lived in the point at the bottom of Hemyock parish where the boundary meets Uffculme, Sheldon and Dunkeswell. From there it might be closer to go to one of the other churches rather than Hemyock. What do you think? I found this record through a search of the DFHS burial index, it contains burials for Sheldon long before 1813, the earliest Ackland is 1773. So that is the source you mention, but where did the records come from? I had assumed you had provided them. Another question is have you read the Sheldon BTs and if so are they as illegible as the early PR? Best wishes from Diana On 05/01/2014, at 12:19 PM, <Terryblackmore@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > There was a Thomas Acland buried at Sheldon on 12-12-1874. Elizabeth > Acland was buried there also, on the 11-4-1875, source is listed as DFHS. > I > can if you wish me to check this out further on the Microfiche, I can do, > as > I have it available. I have not got this far into transcribing the > microfiche, as of yet have made no notes against these burials. There are > a > number of other Aclands buried at Sheldon. > > Regards Terry Blackmore > O.P.C. Sheldon, Devon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diana Stevens > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 9:07 AM > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell > > There is a Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock, age 99, buried 17 May 1827 at > Dunkeswell. > > He is the right age to be my GGGG-Grandfather who was probably born at > Hemyock ca 1728. > > Most researchers assume that Thomas was buried at Sheldon in 1784, with > his > wife Elizabeth buried there the next year. But there are no ages against > the > entries so it has always been a guess. > > Now I think Elizabeth might have been buried at Dunkeswell in 1791 and > then > Thomas married Mary SMYTH in 1793. She was buried there in 1823 age 93. I > checked for baptisms after the marriage and found none. > > Does anyone know about this Thomas? > > Best wishes from Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/10/2014 08:22:55
    1. Re: [DEV] TURNER, Mary Ann - Head Teacher of Plymouth Public Girls' School
    2. Vernmp
    3. I was a pupil at Public from 1958 to 1960. Not sure what sort of info you would like, but willing to answer anything I can. Veronica -------------------------------------------------- From: "Margaret Baensch" <margnb@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:23 PM To: <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] TURNER,Mary Ann - Head Teacher of Plymouth Public Girls' School > Hello to all Listers & a Happy New Year > > I am seeking information about a Mary Ann TURNER (nee Hylton/Hilton). > > In the 1911 census index there is the following entry - > Mary Ann TURNER - age 64 - School Mistress Head Teacher of Plymouth Public > (girl) - Devon - Born c 1847 Plymouth Devon > > Unfortunately it does not specify if she is a Miss or a Mrs. > > Does anyone have any information about this school, and in particular this > head mistress? > > Margaret in Australia > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    01/10/2014 10:14:24
    1. [DEV] TURNER, Henry John & Mary Ann
    2. Margaret Baensch
    3. Thank you to all who have been kind enough to answer my post. You have given me such a lot of information to help me find out more about this couple. Margaret in Australia

    01/10/2014 07:44:58
    1. [DEV] BOWDEN - HEARD Marriage 1896
    2. liverpud
    3. Lance, You could try the LDS Family Search site or send for the certificate. There might be a notice in the local newspaper as well. Cheers, Edna - snowy Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Lance L. Piatt Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 2:24 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] BOWDEN - HEARD Marriage 1896 There is a listing for the marriage between Walter John BOWDEN and Ellen HEARD Jun Q 1896 St. Thomas District of Devon. Anyone have the actually listing of the marriage? Regards, Lance

    01/10/2014 04:14:38
    1. Re: [DEV] Annual stocktake at Devon Heritage Centre
    2. Jonathan Frayne
    3. A further note received today that the NDRO will also be closed from 3rd February to 14th February for stocktaking. As the NDRO is open on Mondays it will re-open on 17th February. Jon -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Leaman Sent: 09 January 2014 10:20 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Annual stocktake at Devon Heritage Centre *PLEASE NOTE THAT DEVON HERITAGE CENTRE ( Record Office, Exeter) WILL BE CLOSED FOR STOCKTAKING FROM FEBRUARY 3^RD 2014 AND WILL RE-OPEN ON TUESDAY 18^TH FEBRUARY 2014 The service point at Devon FHS research centre in Exeter- Tree House will be open on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursday. See http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/treehouse.htm for location & opening hours Terry * --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/09/2014 04:42:32
    1. [DEV] BOWDEN - HEARD Marriage 1896
    2. Lance L. Piatt
    3. There is a listing for the marriage between Walter John BOWDEN and Ellen HEARD Jun Q 1896 St. Thomas District of Devon. Anyone have the actually listing of the marriage? Regards, Lance

    01/09/2014 04:24:29