I am aware that the website Find My Past (FMP) provides an ongoing listing of year-spans re their parish register offerings. But does anyone on this list know what the status is in imaging the Plymouth Records Collection? Surely I'm not the only one who thrills at the sight of my ancestors handwriting, marriage witness names etc , let alone just having the original - so short of getting in contact with who-knows at the website itself (and am I right that it's out of the record office's hands?) perhaps someone knowledgeable here knows or can tell us who does. cheers, pamela in Bermuda

I now wonder if this chap is from the same family? A2A Dartmouth; QS/128/42/18 1682; James Silby, master of the Barbara of Dartmouth on a voyage with fish from Newfoundland to Portugal, taken by Pirates > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=%22+devon+%22&p=4 > > Index - S > ... Salby, John, 252. Salcombe [Devon], bark from, 16. ... piracy by > men-of-war on > the French, 127. -, -, piracy of, in Devon waters, 151, 170. ... > Calendar of the Cecil Papers in Hatfield House, Volume 15 (1930)

Hi Bev There is a site devoted to the Cecil Papers at Hatfield House. There are apparently four main sources and I have copied in a part of what I noticed: The Calendar of the Cecil Papers Historical Manuscripts Commission, Calendar of the Manuscripts of the Most Honourable The Marquess of Salisbury [. . .], 24 vols (London 1883-1976) Haynes/Murdin transcripts of selected Cecil Papers A collection of state papers, relating to affairs in the reigns of King Henry VIII. King Edward VI. Queen Mary, and Queen Elizabeth, from the year 1542 to 1570 [. . .] Transcribed from original letters and other authentick memorials [. . .], ed. by Samuel Haynes (London, 1740) A collection of state papers relating to the reign of Queen Elizabeth, from the year 1571 to 1596. Transcribed from original papers and other authentic memorials [. . .], ed. by William Murdin (London, 1759) It looks like the Calendars were published and so should be available from a reference library. The site also has digitised the documents so you can view the originals on-line if you want to. The problem may be in getting the references to tie up, which may be what Liz was aluding to. Jon -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds Sent: 17 January 2014 01:01 To: devon@rootsweb.com; eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Salcombe - piracy John SALBY or maybe SILBY I now wonder if this chap is from the same family? A2A Dartmouth; QS/128/42/18 1682; James Silby, master of the Barbara of Dartmouth on a voyage with fish from Newfoundland to Portugal, taken by Pirates > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=%22+devon+%22&p=4 > > Index - S > ... Salby, John, 252. Salcombe [Devon], bark from, 16. ... piracy by > men-of-war on the French, 127. -, -, piracy of, in Devon waters, 151, > 170. ... > Calendar of the Cecil Papers in Hatfield House, Volume 15 (1930) ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bev This site is a lot more than just a Gazetteer of Markets. I have had just a quick look and it seems to be trying to publish digitally lots of the published volumes of transcriptions of national and local history. Just the sort of site for me to get lost in browsing! Thanks for finding it! Almost as good as our own dear Genuki/Dev! Jon -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds Sent: 16 January 2014 01:43 To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs in England and Wales to 1516 Interesting for anyone with an interest in this. Must to my dismay Stokenham is not on there, so maybe Kingsbridge was used http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=40412 Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs in England and Wales to 1516 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Unscramble...goodness me Elizabeth, I am too tired to think how to do it for now. But thanks for the hint. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:21 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Salcombe - piracy John SALBY > Hi Bev, all you need is to be able to unscramble > ProQuest`s digitisation of the Cecil papers and to work out how to access > the page you need. Its all there but .......... > >

Lance, I think this is a polite way of saying you should be looking at the civil birth, deaths and marriage records which started in 1837. The index can be found on Familysearch for free and on Ancestry and Findmypast as part of the subscriptions. Copies of the certificates, which have the useful information on them, cost £9.25 each from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/. LDS Family History Libraries may have copies of later baptisms. Paul ________________________________ From: Lance L. Piatt <piattpioneer@wavecable.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2014, 22:13 Subject: [DEV] Beaford Records 1855-1881 Dear List Members, Is there a way to find baptismal records from Beaford between 1855 –1881.  Evidently, the Church records in the Devon Records Office end 01 Apr 1855. Regards, Lance ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Okay, I give up....... and I was so determined not to have to ask, but can SKS please tell me how I can get the full story on the below event. Given we were discussing piracy a few days ago, I thought it would be good to look into it some more. I suspect one has to be a subscriber. Is anyone on the List a subscriber please. Bev http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=%22+devon+%22&p=4 Index - S ... Salby, John, 252. Salcombe [Devon], bark from, 16. ... piracy by men-of-war on the French, 127. -, -, piracy of, in Devon waters, 151, 170. ... Calendar of the Cecil Papers in Hatfield House, Volume 15 (1930)

Could not resist this lot. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=64505 Devon. C. 7501. Grant by Alice Dunnyng and Joan Perys, widows, sisters and heirs of John Leveger, of Loggysthyll, for 50l. beforehand, to James Courtenay the younger, esquire, James Legh, Andrew Bonfessour, Hugh Harry, of Stobbury, and Hugh Harry's heirs, of all their messuages, lands, etc. at Lyxton alias Lyggiston, or elsewhere in the parish of Aveton Gyfford, to the use of the said Hugh and his heirs. 4 April, 27 Henry VIII. Two seals. [Devon.] C. 7504. Indenture, being a conveyance by Richard Pers and Robert Putt to Nicholas, son and heir of John Davelles of Alveston, and the heirs of the body of the said John of all messuages and lands in Estprall late of John Davelles of Lyncomb, with successive remainders in fee tail to Richard, brother of the said John Davelles of Alveston, Alice Craswell, and Agnes Scwip, sister of the said John Davelles of Lyncomb, and ultimate remainder to the right heirs of the said John Davelles of Lyncomb. 3 May 6 Henry VIII. Seal and fragment. [Devon.] C. 7505. Bond in 40l. by Richard Pers, of Kyngisbrigge, merchant, and Robert Putt of Norton, husbandman, to Nicholas Davelles. 22 April, 5 Henry VIII. Condition (in English) for due performance of the terms of C. 7504. Seal, damaged, and fragment.

C. 8020. Indenture, dated 19 June, 18 Elizabeth, of defeasance by Gilbert Cawdrey of Westminster, gentleman, of a statute staple for 100l. acknowledged by John Williams of Stoforde, co. Devon, esquire, and Walter Wottone, on condition of the performance of the terms of an indenture of even date between the said Gilbert and John. English. Mark. Seal, damaged. Endorsed with signatures of witnesse http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=64510 One needs to search every record set to get all the Devon names. Bev

Devon: C. 7920. Indenture, dated 23 July, 2 Elizabeth, witnessing that Agnes Fysshemore, widow, and William [son and] heir of John Fysshemore have demised to Thomas son of the said William their messuage in Blanycombe in the parish of Honyton for sixteen years; rent, 4 marks, payable to the said Agnes during her life and afterwards to the said William; [the lessee] to do all repairs, taking timber therefor. English. Fragment of seal. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=64509 I should probably Google all this in case it comes up under a normal Google search, but in my experience Google does not do every thing. Bev

Interesting for anyone with an interest in this. Must to my dismay Stokenham is not on there, so maybe Kingsbridge was used http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=40412 Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs in England and Wales to 1516

Mary - I am seeking a John ANTLE (or variously ANTEL, ANTILL, etc) who is said to have been from Devon and who settled in Brigus, Newfoundland between 1800-1825. I think he came over with his family as a young man or child. I think his father was also named John and another common family male given name was Stephen. I have been told several times that ANTLE is far more a Dorset name than Devon and I agree, but perhaps he is the oddity, or perhaps this Dorset family sailed out from Devon for some reason. In any event, to make my link back to either Devon or Dorset, I need to start with where they sailed from. If perhaps you would run into the ANTLE (or various) name in your work with Teignmouth, I would appreciate hearing about it. Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://Bodie.CA Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com or mailto:Glen.Bodie@gmail.com Cell mailto:phone.glen.bodie@gmail.com Snail Mail: 46 Georgia Wynd, Delta, BC, Canada V4M 1A5 -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:35:20 -0500 From: mary.armitage@talktalk.net Subject: Re: [DEV] Topsham mariners and the Barbary Corsairs -> copyright To: devon@rootsweb.com Thanks Bev for those details. I am part of a small research group working with Teignmouth Museum looking at fishermen and boat owners who fished in the Grand Banks, maybe emigrated to Newfoundland and were from Teignmouth so am very interested. I have no date at the moment to go to the Devon Heritage Centre (new title of DRO) but next time i go I will look this up or one of my colleagues may do so. I'll be in touch again then thanks again Mary in Torquay

Dear Paul, Thanks...Already did that and have a list of possible births. Not certain all the birth records are the correct ones. I am doing this on the behalf of a good friend who is living on a fixed income and to order all the records we would like would cost over 200 dollars. I was hoping that if the Church records were available, we could trim the cost down. Thanks again for the response. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: paul.hockie@talk21.com Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:09 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Beaford Records 1855-1881 Lance, I think this is a polite way of saying you should be looking at the civil birth, deaths and marriage records which started in 1837. The index can be found on Familysearch for free and on Ancestry and Findmypast as part of the subscriptions. Copies of the certificates, which have the useful information on them, cost £9.25 each from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/. LDS Family History Libraries may have copies of later baptisms. Paul ________________________________ From: Lance L. Piatt <piattpioneer@wavecable.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2014, 22:13 Subject: [DEV] Beaford Records 1855-1881 Dear List Members, Is there a way to find baptismal records from Beaford between 1855 –1881. Evidently, the Church records in the Devon Records Office end 01 Apr 1855. Regards, Lance ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for reducing the forwarded info! Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://Bodie.CA Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com or mailto:Glen.Bodie@gmail.com Cell mailto:phone.glen.bodie@gmail.com Snail Mail: 46 Georgia Wynd, Delta, BC, Canada V4M 1A5 -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:59:57 +0800 From: Diana Stevens <diagramdiana@iinet.net.au> Subject: Re: [DEV] Thomas ACLAND of Hemyock buried 1827 Dunkeswell To: devon@rootsweb.com Thanks to all who have added comments. I have removed all but one previous message from this as it just clutters up the archives. <snip> Thanks for your help. Diana

Hi Bev, all you need is to be able to unscramble ProQuest`s digitisation of the Cecil papers and to work out how to access the page you need. Its all there but .......... life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com>; <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:44 AM Subject: [DEV] Salcombe - piracy John SALBY > Okay, I give up....... and I was so determined not to have to ask, but can > SKS please tell me how I can get the full story on the below event. Given > we > were discussing piracy a few days ago, I thought it would be good to look > into it some more. > > I suspect one has to be a subscriber. Is anyone on the List a subscriber > please. > > > > Bev > > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=%22+devon+%22&p=4 > > Index - S > ... Salby, John, 252. Salcombe [Devon], bark from, 16. ... piracy by > men-of-war on > the French, 127. -, -, piracy of, in Devon waters, 151, 170. ... > Calendar of the Cecil Papers in Hatfield House, Volume 15 (1930) > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I wish to offer a compliment and make a request. I am new to the Devon list, but I have been (and still am) participating in a dozen other lists in various geographies and interests for many years. DEVON is probably the most active list I have been on, having a wonderful variety of topics and participation - an example for others! My request is for brevity. Not brevity in the responses you make - those are great and I appreciate ALL the detail you make the effort to provide. I seek brevity in the amount of material that is returned to the list when you reply to a posting. I know that not all email programs are the same, and some may make it harder to do this than others, but please consider whether the stuff you are returning to the list is ALL necessary for the next reader to get the meaning from your response. There are many responses of only a few lines with several PAGES of forwarded and re-forwarded material following them. Aside from the time that adds to reading and processing a Digest, please also consider the impact on the list Archives and anyone searching in those Archives. Even a very focused and specific search may well return dozens of hits that appear different at the start, but are 90% identical because they are all re-forwarding all the previous parts of the same conversation. So - my request is for selective use of the delete key before hitting Send. I hope you agree. Thank you. Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://Bodie.CA Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com or mailto:Glen.Bodie@gmail.com Cell mailto:phone.glen.bodie@gmail.com Snail Mail: 46 Georgia Wynd, Delta, BC, Canada V4M 1A5

Hi, you will need to contact the vicar/rector of the parish as probably the registers are still in the parish. Try a churchnearyou.org life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance L. Piatt" <piattpioneer@wavecable.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:13 PM Subject: [DEV] Beaford Records 1855-1881 > Dear List Members, > > Is there a way to find baptismal records from Beaford between 1855 –1881. > Evidently, the Church records in the Devon Records Office end 01 Apr 1855. > > Regards, > Lance > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Saturday, October 20, 1900; Issue 10378. Sept. 21, at Capetown, Edward, youngest s/o the late W.H. BLACKING, of Exeter, to Adela R. LASPAR, of Calgary, North West Territory, Canada

Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser Saturday, August 11, 1900 KNEEBONE - at Franklinville, U.S.A., William Bridgman KNEEBONE, [formerly Exeter], aged 49 Not mine Bev

Hi: Prompted by comments I've received from several subscribers in recent weeks, I've revised and I hope clarified the rules about posting to DEVON-L in the GENUKI/Devon FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) file, which is at: http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonFAQ.html The particular issues that were complained about were excessive repetition of the texts of emails from earlier in a message thread, in replies to such emails, and uninformative subject lines, but below I quote two particularly relevant sections of the FAQ in their entirety. Cheers Brian Randell 19. What topics are appropriate for messages to the DEVON mailing list? Ideas for messages to the list can include: - The Devon surnames you are researching - Queries regarding Devon individuals or families - Questions or information regarding Devon localities - Questions or information about Devon genealogical research - Requests for or offers of help on Devon genealogical research - Tips & tricks regarding Devon genealogical research that you'd like to share with everyone. (The success of this list depends on the continued willingness of people who can do so to aid others who are seeking help - this willingness is likely to evaporate if those who receive such help neglect the common courtesy of offering their thanks, either by direct mail or where appropriate via a message to the list.) It is acceptable for new subscribers to post a message simply listing their Devon research interests. However, repeated posting of such messages, e.g. in response to some sort of "Roll Call", is not acceptable, due to the impact they can have both on the level of traffic on the DEVON mailing list, and its "signal-to-noise" ratio, i.e. average level of interest to subscribers. (Repeated flouting of this rule will lead to the sender being unsubscribed.) Incidentally, it is always a good idea to include with any query to the DEVON mailing list a brief indication of what searches of online and conventional sources you have already made. This is in order to avoid your receiving, and other respondents wasting effort providing, information that you are already familiar with. If you are uncertain whether a message you are considering posting would be regarded as appropriate for the DEVON mailing list, please seek advice beforehand from the list moderators, Brian Randell <Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk> and Terry Leaman <terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk>. 20. Are there other general rules regarding posting to the DEVON mailing list? Please refrain from postings which are not of relevance to Devon genealogy - such as messages concerned with genealogical software packages. In particular, do not post messages about computer viruses to the list. (Anyone ignoring this rule is liable to be automatically unsubscribed.) If you have a query or information about a possible computer virus, send it directly to the list owner, Vicki Lindsay Thauvin <vicki@thauvin.net> or to the list moderators Brian Randell <Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> and Terry Leaman <terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk> who will if appropriate communicate its contents to the list. The reason for this rule is simple - fear of viruses is such that any message on the mailing list about a virus is such that, even if the message is itself timely and factually correct (something which is far from always the case), it will lead to a whole host of follow up messages, often of dubious accuracy, which themselves constitute a sort of virus, and annoy many subscribers. Similarly, please do not use the DEVON mailing list for messages (such as thank you messages) that are aimed at a specific individual, and which do not contain information which is likely to useful to (or perhaps even understood by!) anyone else. Such messages should be sent by direct email, so as to avoid clogging up many hundreds of mailboxes world-wide. Make sure that you use an informative subject line on any message to the DEVON mailing list - messages headed "Help", "New Subscriber", "My Brick Wall", etc., might well escape the attention of readers who might be able to help. Similarly, adherence to the common genealogical convention of giving surnames in CAPITAL letters is strongly recommended. When replying to a message, please avoid needless repetition of the text from this or earlier messages in the message thread. (Such message repetitions may not be immediately evident if lots of text has scrolled off the bottom of your email text window.) However, take care to provide or retain enough text to make your reply understandable. If you have reason to question whether a message you have tried to send to the mailing list has been received and distributed successfully, please ask one of us to investigate - DO NOT clutter up everyone's mailbox by sending out "test" messages. If you wish to complain or comment unfavourably about some other subscriber please do so directly to the subscriber and/or to the list owner or moderators - NOT to the entire list, which just exacerbates the problem. Vicki, as is evident from her occasional messages to the list, is quite capable of dealing politely but decisively with people who misuse the mailing list. Similarly, the list is not an appropriate place for critical comments about archives and other organisations, e.g. regarding their policies concerning access to information they possess which would be useful to genealogists. Finally, note that since the DEVON mailing list is distributed by Rootsweb, it is governed by Rootsweb's "Acceptable Use Policy", which is to be found at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/rootsweb/aup.html In particular this states: "You should submit only content which belongs to you and will not violate the property or other rights of other people or organizations. . . Content submitted for the purpose of commercial use, advertising or fee for service is prohibited. 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