Benjamin VANSTONE married Thomasin WEEKS in Iddesleigh on 27 April 1768. Their children were baptised there between 1769 and 1778. Thomasin was a widow when she was buried in Iddesleigh on 27 August 1816. As yet, I have been unable to locate the details of Benjamin's burial. Can anyone help, please? Adrian
He [John TAYLOR] was buried in Dodbrooke on the 17th Sep 1837 aged 30 yrs. Also a Thomas TAYLOR of Dodbrooke was buried 5 dec 1839 aged 7 yrs 4 mths For what it is worth, I am leaning towards the parents of John being John and Ann who chr Charlotte Ann at Dodbrooke on abt the 25 Sep 1806 [entry very smudgy], she was born 1 Sep 1792. If the parents were so tardy in baptising Charlotte at such a late date, then maybe John was not christened at all Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim Treeby (Genealogy)" <genealogy@ttenterprises.co.uk> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:54 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] John Taylor - Crowd Sourcing > Hi Bernie, > Only possible death of a John Taylor is one in Sep Q 1837 - RD > Kingsbridge - Vol 9 - p 180. > According to FMP a John Taylor aged 30 is buried in Dodbrooke 17 Sep 1837. > So even though you still don't know what parish he was from you at least > have an idea of when he was born. > Assuming this is your John. > > So you probably need to go through most of the parishes around > Dodbrooke/Blackawaton > see http://www.our4bears.net/index.htm for more info. > > Tim Treeby > DFHS 13926 > > On 02/02/2014 19:13, A & B Currie wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I >> would >> welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. >> >> John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. >> >> John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William >> 1838. >> >> William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, >> Aunt. >> >> Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 >> >> 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke >> >> That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. >> >> In trembling anticipation, >> >> Bernie >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6553 - Release Date: 02/02/14 >
Greetings, As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I would welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William 1838. William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, Aunt. Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. In trembling anticipation, Bernie
Bernie There is a Richard TAILOR chr at St Michael Blackawton 7 Mar 1830, s/o John & Ann, the father a Labourer But I do not see the others you mention, so you must have their baptisms from elsewhere This [below] could be Richard above who may have married a Mary and had children christened at Strete. TAYLOR Richard Henry 19 Aug 1849 Richard & Mary Of Coombes - Labourer - Born 24 Jul TAYLOR William John 18 Jan 1852 Richard & Mary Of Coomeries ? - Labourer - Born 24 Dec and this also at Strete TAYLOR Susanna Jane 8 Sep 1877 William John & Mary Jane Of Burlestone - Labourer - Privately Then there is this at St Michael, Blackawton BELLETT Ann 6 Oct 1809 Thomas & Ann Although according to the Banns she was Sojourner. The marriage entry says that Thomas BELLETT otp Mary Ann SCAGGLE otp Married by Banns 17 Nov 1803 Both made their mark X Wit: Sarah PULLING and Thomas HYNE Not sure if this is your couple [parents of Ann] given she was a Sojourner. Maybe the Vicar got them mixed up with John TAYLOR/TAILOR being the Sojourner and Ann BELLETT otp There is a Sally chr 13 Apr 1817 at Blackawton d/o Thomas and Ann of Town, he a Husbandman, so this could be the Aunt, in which case Ann who is christened in 1809 [above] could be the correct one. This couple are at Blackawton in 1851 Oarstone, Kingsbridge Richard TAYLOR Head M 40 M Farm Lab Aventon Gifford-DEV Mary TAYLOR Wife M 35 F --- Blackawton-DEV Then this John who says he was born at Blackawton, but I have not found him as yet in the baptisms. John SNELL Head M 41 M Farmer 105 Acre Employ 4 Lab Lapford-Dev Sarah SNELL Wife M 33 F Farmers Wife Darlington-Dev Mary Grills SNELL Daur U 1 F Farmers Dau Slapton-Dev Mary Jane CRIMP Serv U 17 F Farm House Serv Buckland-Dev John TAYLOR Serv U 21 M Farm House Serv Blackawton-Dev Enoch RIDER Serv U 12 M Farm Serv Slapton-Dev Address: Pittiford, Kingsbridge Census Place: Slapton Kingsbridge, Devonshire I think you need to have a good look at all the parishes given here to see if you can track down John TAYLOR/TAYLOR and where he may have been born. http://www.our4bears.net/index.htm Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "A & B Currie" <berandav@slingshot.co.nz> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 5:13 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] John Taylor - Crowd Sourcing > > Greetings, > > As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I would > welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. > > John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. > > John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William > 1838. > > William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, > Aunt. > > Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 > > 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke > > That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. > > In trembling anticipation, > > Bernie > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6552 - Release Date: 02/01/14 >
Hi Everyone I have a Vanstone connected with my ONS. She is Ann Vanstone Chubb (1842-1909) who married James Border (1843 to 1896) in Plymouth in 1867. She was the daughter of John Chubb (1805-1875) and Fanny Vanstone (1805 -1886) Hope this Helps Robin Border On 3 Feb 2014, at 02:05, B. Edmonds wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I think Marianne meant to write to this List, Bev > > I have one stray in my data base ......... > John CURTIS and Mary TOWELL, both of Cockington, married at Totnes 20 Jan > 1752. Cockington is only 2 miles west of Torqauy, > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marianne Hansen" <stampingrammie2@msn.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 11:58 AM > To: "eng-dev-southhams" <eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Looking for Vanstone's and Towells. > >> My great- great grandmother was born in Barton by Torquay, Devon on >> 16 May 1835 Name Mary Towell Vanstone. She married Frederick John >> Tuckett 24 May 1864 in the Parrish Church, Dorwood, Devonshire, >> England. So what does that mean "by Torquay" ? >> >> Her >> father was John Vanstone born in 1811 in Broadwoodkelly, Devon and was >> buried 10 >> July 1877 at St. Mary's church, in Barton, Devon. He married Ann Towell >> 14 >> July 1833 in St. Mary's church, Exeter. I have no further information on >> Ann Towell, and wondered in your searchings, if you have run across any >> Towells. I love lurking on this list and seeing all the things you all >> find, and hoping someday one of my names will pop up. Tuckett, Vanstone, >> Towell. >> >> Thanks for your time, >> >> Marianne Hansen, Idaho, >> USA >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6553 - Release Date: 02/02/14 >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Bernie Where were the children baptised that you have............. Thomas 1832 etc. and where was William 1838 born? According to the Banns Notice at Blackawton John was otp and Ann BELLETT was a sojourner. Do you have a printout copy of the marriage from Devon History Centre [old DRO] If so what does it say, who were witnesses etc.? Have you found them on any census? Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "A & B Currie" <berandav@slingshot.co.nz> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 5:13 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] John Taylor - Crowd Sourcing > > Greetings, > > As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I would > welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. > > John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. > > John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William > 1838. > > William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, > Aunt. > > Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 > > 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke > > That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. > > In trembling anticipation, > > Bernie > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6552 - Release Date: 02/01/14 >
Diana, Well, we all know that there are clever people out there, I am not one of them when it comes to the computer. I am just the plain and [gonna say simple] but had better not. Not quite there yet : ) Thanks, I shall try that and see what happens. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Diana Trenchard" <trenchar@icloud.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:31 AM To: <DEVON@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > > Beverley wrote: > Trying to search on DOOR is a major headache > as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] Searching > on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although > there > are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. > > and Kathryn wrote: > a couple of years ago I was researching the DATE family for someone. Same > difficulty when entering <DATE> into any search box! > > Have you not heard of a simple solution in Google and other search > engines? > > Enter 'genealogy:' and then the name you are searching - i.e. the word > 'genealogy' (without the inverted commas) followed by a colon and then a > space before the name. It will save you many hours of searching through > unwanted data. > > Different words can be entered for subjects other than genealogy, e.g. > history or a country etc. > > And don't forget that you can add + and - words as well. For example, > 'genealogy: Door +Dore +Dorr -stevedore' will include the variations you > want, plus eliminating unwanted references to stevedores. You can add up > to 10 (or it may be 12) + or - words, but make sure you always leave a > space before the next + or - and also don't forget to include the colon. > > Hope this stops some hair-tearing. > > Diana > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6552 - Release Date: 02/01/14 >
Hi Paul, You tech men/woman seem to have all this down pat, this poor old girl would never think of all that. Thanks, will try to remember all this the next time. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Hockie" <paul.hockie@talk21.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:36 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > Google and similar free form searches can be tricky and I have noticed > that Google have removed some features in order to promote their > advertisers > and want you to open an account. Google are no longer the fun company they > used to be. There are still some things that can be done to reduce the > number of hits. > > 1. Use the Google search tools, especially location. This restricts > the search (mostly) to one country > > 2. Use inverted commas "" to search for a phrase i.e. "forename > surname" or "Little Village". You do need to try all known spelling > variations. This should also work with plurals and similar i.e. "wood" > excludes woods, wooden etc. > > 3. A the name of the place to the search. You can add the county and > neighbouring villages to give a wider search. This I find the best to > initially reduce the hits. Year, or even the first 3 numbers, can also > help > > 4. Use minus - to remove terms from the search. In this case -wood > may > reduce the hits considerably but if a page has a family name Wood the page > would not be included. -wooden may be a better start. It is worth looking > at > the first 2-3 pages of hits to identify possible words. > > The better search engines such as the National Archives have an advanced > search which formulates the query based on the above rules and you don't > need to understand the Syntax. > > > > These tips help reduce the number to a manageable number to check but > there > is a risk you may exclude something useful but "steve dore" -facebook > -vision gives around 170 hits must of which can be dismissed on scrolling > the results. > > > > Cheers > > > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kathryn Barnett > Sent: 02 February 2014 07:15 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > > > > Hi Bev, > > I can't help you on the DOOR problem, I'm afraid. But you have my > sympathy, > a couple of years ago I was researching the DATE family for someone. Same > difficulty when entering <DATE> into any search box! > > > > Happy hunting, > > > > Kathryn > > Adelaide (only 43.5 today!) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: <mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com> devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [ > <mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com> mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of B. Edmonds > > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014 4:13 PM > > To: <mailto:DEVON@rootsweb.com> DEVON@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > > > > > > My problem children are Daniel Symons DOOR who married Elizabeth EDMONDS > at > Charles in Plymouth 3 Sep 1836. Trying to search on DOOR is a major > headache > as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] Searching > on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although > there > are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. > > > > > > The marriage image has what looks like Daniel Symons DORR and because he > could not write his X is recorded as waht looks like Daniel S. DOOR. > > There is a Daniel DOOR death at Stepney in 1852, if this happens to be > him, > did Elizabeth remarry in 1857 at Kingston R/D? > > > > I am really hoping that someone has him in their tree, and knows what > happened to them. > > > > Which ever way I look at it I think there are only 3 DOOR marriages on the > 3 > Towns CD, one being a Robert DOOR to Eliza HEANS 16 Jan 1814 also at > Plymouth Charles, could this Robert be the father? Otherwise this name is > fairly scarce in Devon. > > > > Does anyone have a DOOR/DORR marriage printout with a DOOR/DORR and SYMONS > marriage? > > > > Regards and thanks for any suggestions. > > Bev > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > <http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and > the > Devon FHS ( <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List > archive for Devon can be found at > <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:DEVON-request@rootsweb.com> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the > word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > <http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and > the > Devon FHS ( <http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/> http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List > archive for Devon can be found at > <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:DEVON-request@rootsweb.com> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the > word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6552 - Release Date: 02/01/14 >
Hello Elizabeth, thank you so much, goodness me info about him is coming out of my ears now, I do not know where to start, it is early in the morning here and already my brain is spinning. I have found him in Plymouth Charles as Daniel Symons PORE chr 23 Jul 1815 his father John and mother Mary, the father an Extra Officer in Customs. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 1:29 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > Hi, I see he was a naval pensioner , and I am sure there > will be pension records for him , but National Archives Discovery is > playing hard to get today .........and nothing for Door , Dore, Doer .. > Having complained he has now appeared !!! > Naturalisation papers , Doer, John Simon, from Frankfort on > Maine, Cert 998, issued July 1848 . HO 1/31/998 > Admiralty Royal Navy registers of Seaman`s service , > Doer > , Daniel Symons , no 98957 , place of birth Devonport , 28th July 1858. > Adm > 188/112/98957 . > Admiralty Royal Navy continuous service engagement books, > Dore or Doer, Daniel Simon, place of birth Plymouth, continuous service > number 5489, date of volunteering 26 Sept 1853, date of birth 9 July 1816. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy E Drew" <r.drew893@btinternet.com> > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > > >> >From Findmypast, Special Collections >> >> This is Daniel's son: >> >> Marriage 14 August 1881, Stoke Dameral Parish Church, by Certificate >> Daniel Doer, 22, Bachelor, Labourer of 49 Queen Street, Father Daniel, >> Pensioner >> Louisa Callicott, 21, Spinster, of 81 Pembroke Street, Father John, Mason >> Both signed >> Witnesses: Henry Wilson & Harriat Hammond >> >> Roy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathryn Barnett" <kathrynbarnett@bigpond.com> >> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE >> >> >> Bev, >> >> Here they are in 1871 & 1881 >> >> 1871 Census >> RG10; Piece: 2134; Folio: 4; Page: 4; GSU roll: 832032. >> 11 Marlboro St, Stoke Damerel >> Household Members: >> Daniel Doer 56yrs Naval Pensioner b Plymouth >> Jane Doer 52yrs Washerwoman b Pembroke, Wales >> Ann Williams 19yrs Dressmaker b Plymouth >> Daniel Doer 9yrs Scholar b Plymouth >> Maria J Doer 8yrs Scholar b Plymouth >> >> >> 1881 Census >> RG11; Piece: 2209; Folio: 173; Page: 9; GSU roll: 1341532. >> 49 Queen St, Stoke Damerel >> Household Members: >> Daniel Doer 65yrs Greenwich Pensioner b Plymouth >> Jane Doer 62yrs Book Binder b Pembroke Dock >> Daniel Doer 19yrs Labourer HM Dockyard b Devonport >> >> Regards >> >> Kathryn >> Adelaide >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Joy Langdon >> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014 9:41 PM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE >> >> I think Daniel was born c1815. There is a burial at Stoke Damerel 21 Jan >> 1886 Daniel S DOER aged 71, address Queen St. >> >> Elizabeth must have died because there is a marriage indexed Mar 1870 >> Stoke >> Damerel of Daniel Symons DORE to either Jane WILLIAMS or Jane REDDICLIFFE >> followed by a birth registration Daniel Symons DOER Stoke Damerel Sep >> 1861. >> >> >> I think I found him in 1861 as Daniel DOEE (FreeCEN) 9 Marlborough St, >> Stoke >> Damerel, born Plymouth, Stoker HMS Wellington. He has a stepson William >> WILLIAMS with him born Guernsey. >> >> Joy >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> >> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 5:42 >> Subject: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE >> >> >> >> My problem children are Daniel Symons DOOR who married Elizabeth EDMONDS >> at >> Charles in Plymouth 3 Sep 1836. Trying to search on DOOR is a major >> headache >> >> as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] >> Searching >> on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although >> there >> >> are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. >> >> >> The marriage image has what looks like Daniel Symons DORR and because he >> could not write his X is recorded as waht looks like Daniel S. DOOR. >> There is a Daniel DOOR death at Stepney in 1852, if this happens to be >> him, >> did Elizabeth remarry in 1857 at Kingston R/D? >> >> I am really hoping that someone has him in their tree, and knows what >> happened to them. >> >> Which ever way I look at it I think there are only 3 DOOR marriages on >> the >> 3 >> >> Towns CD, one being a Robert DOOR to Eliza HEANS 16 Jan 1814 also at >> Plymouth Charles, could this Robert be the father? Otherwise this name is >> fairly scarce in Devon. >> >> Does anyone have a DOOR/DORR marriage printout with a DOOR/DORR and >> SYMONS >> marriage? >> >> Regards and thanks for any suggestions. >> Bev >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6552 - Release Date: 02/01/14 >
Hi Joy, I think you have hit the nail on the head Joy, it sure looks like this will be the family. Good stuff, I am pleased. Now to see what happened Elizabeth, obviously she died. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 9:11 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > I think Daniel was born c1815. There is a burial at Stoke Damerel 21 Jan > 1886 Daniel S DOER aged 71, address Queen St. > > Elizabeth must have died because there is a marriage indexed Mar 1870 > Stoke Damerel of Daniel Symons DORE to either Jane WILLIAMS or Jane > REDDICLIFFE followed by a birth registration Daniel Symons DOER Stoke > Damerel Sep 1861. > > I think I found him in 1861 as Daniel DOEE (FreeCEN) 9 Marlborough St, > Stoke Damerel, born Plymouth, Stoker HMS Wellington. He has a stepson > William WILLIAMS with him born Guernsey. > > Joy > > > ________________________________ > From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> > To: DEVON@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 5:42 > Subject: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE > > > > My problem children are Daniel Symons DOOR who married Elizabeth EDMONDS > at > Charles in Plymouth 3 Sep 1836. Trying to search on DOOR is a major > headache > as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] Searching > on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although > there > are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. > > > The marriage image has what looks like Daniel Symons DORR and because he > could not write his X is recorded as waht looks like Daniel S. DOOR. > There is a Daniel DOOR death at Stepney in 1852, if this happens to be > him, > did Elizabeth remarry in 1857 at Kingston R/D? > > I am really hoping that someone has him in their tree, and knows what > happened to them. > > Which ever way I look at it I think there are only 3 DOOR marriages on the > 3 > Towns CD, one being a Robert DOOR to Eliza HEANS 16 Jan 1814 also at > Plymouth Charles, could this Robert be the father? Otherwise this name is > fairly scarce in Devon. > > Does anyone have a DOOR/DORR marriage printout with a DOOR/DORR and SYMONS > marriage? > > Regards and thanks for any suggestions. > Bev > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6552 - Release Date: 02/01/14 > >
Hi Bernie, If I have the right family then by my reckoning Ann had 4 children between the Death of John and her 2nd Marriage to Arthur Lavers in 1846. As on 1841 Census Children are John - 13 - born abt 1828 Henry - 6 - born abt 1835 William - 3 - born abt 1838 Sarah - 2 - born abt 1839 Emma - 1 - born abt 1840. On 1851 Census Children are down as Emma -11 - born abt 1840 Grace - 8 - born abt 1843 Sarah - 6 - born abt 1845 Susan - 2 - born abt 1849 Can find Baptisms for Emma in 1840, Grace in 1842 and Sarah Jane in 1844. All baptised in Dodbrooke as Taylor, Mother given as Ann. Can't find a baptism for Sarah 1839 nor a burial record for her. There is a Richard Tayler buried in Dodbrooke in 1833 aged 3. Who is possibly the Richard Tailor baptised in Blackawton that Bev found. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 02/02/2014 22:45, A & B Currie wrote: > Hi Tim, > Thanks. I had discounted this one as, if it is 'my' John, then who is the > father of Emma born C. 1840 without being registered? Mind you, who is the > father of Sarah, born 1844? I know that the English Death Cert gives very > little, but I may have to cough up and hope that the informant ties in > somehow. I'll check out that link too. > > Bernie > >
Bev, Here they are in 1871 & 1881 1871 Census RG10; Piece: 2134; Folio: 4; Page: 4; GSU roll: 832032. 11 Marlboro St, Stoke Damerel Household Members: Daniel Doer 56yrs Naval Pensioner b Plymouth Jane Doer 52yrs Washerwoman b Pembroke, Wales Ann Williams 19yrs Dressmaker b Plymouth Daniel Doer 9yrs Scholar b Plymouth Maria J Doer 8yrs Scholar b Plymouth 1881 Census RG11; Piece: 2209; Folio: 173; Page: 9; GSU roll: 1341532. 49 Queen St, Stoke Damerel Household Members: Daniel Doer 65yrs Greenwich Pensioner b Plymouth Jane Doer 62yrs Book Binder b Pembroke Dock Daniel Doer 19yrs Labourer HM Dockyard b Devonport Regards Kathryn Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Langdon Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014 9:41 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE I think Daniel was born c1815. There is a burial at Stoke Damerel 21 Jan 1886 Daniel S DOER aged 71, address Queen St. Elizabeth must have died because there is a marriage indexed Mar 1870 Stoke Damerel of Daniel Symons DORE to either Jane WILLIAMS or Jane REDDICLIFFE followed by a birth registration Daniel Symons DOER Stoke Damerel Sep 1861. I think I found him in 1861 as Daniel DOEE (FreeCEN) 9 Marlborough St, Stoke Damerel, born Plymouth, Stoker HMS Wellington. He has a stepson William WILLIAMS with him born Guernsey. Joy ________________________________ From: B. Edmonds <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 5:42 Subject: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE My problem children are Daniel Symons DOOR who married Elizabeth EDMONDS at Charles in Plymouth 3 Sep 1836. Trying to search on DOOR is a major headache as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] Searching on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although there are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. The marriage image has what looks like Daniel Symons DORR and because he could not write his X is recorded as waht looks like Daniel S. DOOR. There is a Daniel DOOR death at Stepney in 1852, if this happens to be him, did Elizabeth remarry in 1857 at Kingston R/D? I am really hoping that someone has him in their tree, and knows what happened to them. Which ever way I look at it I think there are only 3 DOOR marriages on the 3 Towns CD, one being a Robert DOOR to Eliza HEANS 16 Jan 1814 also at Plymouth Charles, could this Robert be the father? Otherwise this name is fairly scarce in Devon. Does anyone have a DOOR/DORR marriage printout with a DOOR/DORR and SYMONS marriage? Regards and thanks for any suggestions. Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Bev, Have found a marriage on FMP between a John Door and Mary Simons 4th Sep 1814 in Maker. Have also found a marriage for a Daniel Dore in 1848 to a Jane Learey. His age is given as 32 and Father as John, which ties in with what you have. The only problems is that he is described as a Bachelor and Fathers occupation is a Tailor. So unless there are two Daniel Dores of about the same age then something is obviously wrong somewhere. Have found a Mary Door bap 3rd Sep 1819 dau of John and Mary, and this John is a Tailor. There is Daniel Dore on 1851 Census aged 33 living in Plymouth. Occupation 10/11 Stoker, but wife is given as Julia aged 27 from Cornwall. Cannot find any possible marriage for this couple. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 02/02/2014 20:17, B. Edmonds wrote: > Hello Elizabeth, thank you so much, goodness me info about him is coming out > of my ears now, I do not know where to start, it is early in the morning > here and already my brain is spinning. > > I have found him in Plymouth Charles as Daniel Symons PORE chr 23 Jul 1815 > his father John and mother Mary, the father an Extra Officer in Customs. > > Bev > >
There is a removal order 1833 of John Taylor, Ann his wife and Thomas from Dodbrooke to Blackawton. It might be worth getting it as it might give you some background information: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=027-995a&cid=6-5-26&kw=taylor dodbrooke#6-5-26 There is also an apprenticeship which may refer to John: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=027-995a&cid=6-12-176&kw=taylor blackawton#6-12-176 Dodbrooke baptisms can be found on Genuki Devon but the only John baptism in the time frame was 10 Feb 1765, parents Richard and Elizabeth. I couldn't see a burial for him at Dodbrooke either but the transcriptions only begin 1837. It would be useful if you could identify his age and I wondered if the death registration Kingsbridge district (which is the district for Blackawton and Dodbrooke) Sep qtr 1837 is his. Ann baptised several children at Dodbrooke after Emma Bellett. Grace 29 May 1842 Sarah Jane 27 Oct 1844 http://www.our4bears.net/parishes/Dodbrooke/Dodbrooke_bapB.htm Did Ann remarry an Arthur Lavers in 1846? There is a marriage registration Kingsbridge Jun 1846 and there is a household with Arthur Lavers aged 71, Ann Lavers aged 42 and it looks as if the older Lavers children are the Taylor children (Emma, Grace and Sarah) and John Mabin is a lodger in both this household and with Ann in 1841. As Ann married an older man I wondered if John was also older than her which might explain his failing health and death early in the marriage. Joy ________________________________ From: A & B Currie <berandav@slingshot.co.nz> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 19:13 Subject: [DEV] John Taylor - Crowd Sourcing Greetings, As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I would welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William 1838. William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, Aunt. Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. In trembling anticipation, Bernie ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Bernie, Only possible death of a John Taylor is one in Sep Q 1837 - RD Kingsbridge - Vol 9 - p 180. According to FMP a John Taylor aged 30 is buried in Dodbrooke 17 Sep 1837. So even though you still don't know what parish he was from you at least have an idea of when he was born. Assuming this is your John. So you probably need to go through most of the parishes around Dodbrooke/Blackawaton see http://www.our4bears.net/index.htm for more info. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 02/02/2014 19:13, A & B Currie wrote: > Greetings, > > As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I would > welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. > > John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. > > John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William 1838. > > William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, > Aunt. > > Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 > > 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke > > That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. > > In trembling anticipation, > > Bernie >
Hello Bernie, I'm afraid I know nothing about John Taylor, but I'm related to Ann Bellett - are you interested in her as well or do you have all the information you could want on her side? (I have her ancestors back to her 2 x gt grandfather Hugh BELLETT, who was married to Grace CROBIERD, and then back to Grace's gt grandfather, Ralfe CROBIERD. (If you don't have the BELLETT info, Ann's youngest sister was Sally so I guess she was the informant) Teresa PS This is weird - I'm replying to an email sent tomorrow! On 02/02/2014 19:13, devon-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:13:01 +1300 > From: "A & B Currie"<berandav@slingshot.co.nz> > Subject: [DEV] John Taylor - Crowd Sourcing > To:<devon@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<000001cf204a$ca6d8e80$5f48ab80$@co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Greetings, > > As there seem to be magicians who can pull ancestors out of a hat, I would > welcome any suggestions on my mystery man. > > John Taylor married Ann Bellett, 19 July 1829 in Blackawton. > > John and Ann Taylor baptised Thomas 1832, Richard Henry, 1834, William 1838. > > William's birth cert gives father as John, informant was Sally Bellett, > Aunt. > > Ann Taylor baptised Emma Ann Bellett Taylor 1840 > > 1841 Ann is a widow in Dodbrooke > > That is all that I know of John - my GG Grandfather. > > In trembling anticipation, > > Bernie
In 1715 it was owned by a John ROW: http://www.foda.org.uk/militia/1715/tavistock/tavistock.htm Joy ________________________________ From: Patti Gates <doog3@msn.com> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 18:24 Subject: Re: [DEV] Cole Farm & Coletown Re: DEVON DIGEST Vol 9 Issue 64 I am interested in the reference to the two farms : Artiscombe and Higher Artiscombe that remain in existence today. Higher Artiscombe is the closest to Rubbytown and the former Cole Farm (Coletown?) Does anyone know who owned the Cole Farm?Is there information on the farm that would show who the owners were in the 1700's? I am interested in knowing anything about this Cole family as our Cole family lived in Devon in the 1700's. Our 3rd Great Grandfather Samuel Cole b.1794 in Holsworthy emmigrated to St Thomas, Ontario in 1843 and I would love to know more about this Cole farm and any connection to his parents, siblings and other relatives in the area. Thank you Patti Lee Gates Minnesota USA ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Beverley wrote: Trying to search on DOOR is a major headache as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] Searching on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although there are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. and Kathryn wrote: a couple of years ago I was researching the DATE family for someone. Same difficulty when entering <DATE> into any search box! Have you not heard of a simple solution in Google and other search engines? Enter 'genealogy:' and then the name you are searching - i.e. the word 'genealogy' (without the inverted commas) followed by a colon and then a space before the name. It will save you many hours of searching through unwanted data. Different words can be entered for subjects other than genealogy, e.g. history or a country etc. And don't forget that you can add + and - words as well. For example, 'genealogy: Door +Dore +Dorr -stevedore' will include the variations you want, plus eliminating unwanted references to stevedores. You can add up to 10 (or it may be 12) + or - words, but make sure you always leave a space before the next + or - and also don't forget to include the colon. Hope this stops some hair-tearing. Diana
Hi Bev, I can't help you on the DOOR problem, I'm afraid. But you have my sympathy, a couple of years ago I was researching the DATE family for someone. Same difficulty when entering <DATE> into any search box! Happy hunting, Kathryn Adelaide (only 43.5 today!) -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014 4:13 PM To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Daniel Symons DOOR/DORR/DORE My problem children are Daniel Symons DOOR who married Elizabeth EDMONDS at Charles in Plymouth 3 Sep 1836. Trying to search on DOOR is a major headache as I get front door, back door, cottage door [you get the drift] Searching on DORR is not helpful either and nor is DORE [stevedore etc] although there are entries for DOOR and DORE on 1851 in Devon but nothing seems to fit. The marriage image has what looks like Daniel Symons DORR and because he could not write his X is recorded as waht looks like Daniel S. DOOR. There is a Daniel DOOR death at Stepney in 1852, if this happens to be him, did Elizabeth remarry in 1857 at Kingston R/D? I am really hoping that someone has him in their tree, and knows what happened to them. Which ever way I look at it I think there are only 3 DOOR marriages on the 3 Towns CD, one being a Robert DOOR to Eliza HEANS 16 Jan 1814 also at Plymouth Charles, could this Robert be the father? Otherwise this name is fairly scarce in Devon. Does anyone have a DOOR/DORR marriage printout with a DOOR/DORR and SYMONS marriage? Regards and thanks for any suggestions. Bev ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Afternoon, Another family who seems to have gone walkabout is the following one. William Thomas HODGE married Margaret [Peggy] EDMONDS 17 Feb 1835 at St George East Stonehouse As far as I can ascertain they had children Eliza Mary 1835 William Thomas 1839 Both born at Stonehouse The father's occupation in 1835 was Private in the Royal Marines at East Stonehouse. Does the above ring any bells with anyone, where did they go and what happened to Margaret [Peggy] and the children? Bev