Hi Wendy, It's not unusual as Tom Jones once sang! Is Maria on the page you have found? You could view the images on Free BMD and check the folio and page No. You can then enter these into FBMD search and see what comes up. On Free BMD for June quarter 1839 in Exeter there are four females named and only three males Is anyone able to provide another name to solve this puzzle? I am trying to trace a Maria Berry and cannot find a marriage for her Thanks Wendy in NZ

On Free BMD for June quarter 1839 in Exeter there are four females named and only three males Is anyone able to provide another name to solve this puzzle? I am trying to trace a Maria Berry and cannot find a marriage for her Thanks Wendy in NZ

Good morning In the 1841 census there is a Maria Williams living with John Williams (who was on the Free BMD marriages at the same time) in St Pancras Parish, Exeter. She is 35 he is 30. Could this be your Maria? Jane Gould -----Original Message----- From: A & B Currie Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:15 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] A puzzle Okay, Maria is there. Next step, ask for all Exeter 2Q marriages and look for a page that has an extra male or a page No. e.g. 18(_). A process of elimination I'm afraid, but it can be done. B On Free BMD for June quarter 1839 in Exeter there are four females named and only three males Is anyone able to provide another name to solve this puzzle? I am trying to trace a Maria Berry and cannot find a marriage for her Thanks Wendy in NZ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning, Whilst looking for Gail's William SHUTE I came across this in Churchstow Churchstow Richard SKINNER of Tamerton and Mary SOPER of Kingsbridge married Sept: 1st, 1728-29 Quite away from home. Bev

Gail & Joy No marriage that I can see in South Brent, but the years 1724-1727 are very hard to read. I just hope that when or if FMP get around to filming these records that their camera's are much stronger/better to be able to pick up the faint writing in some of these PR's. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:54 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] SHUTE in Diptford > Hello Gail, > > The baptisms for the children have the note "of South Brent". Have you > tried looking for a marriage there? I don't think there is anything > online for South Brent. > > Joy > > ________________________________ > From: Gail Pullyblank <gail@gailmail.com> > To: DEVON@rootsweb.com > Cc: eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 3:28 > Subject: [DEV] SHUTE in Diptford > > > Hi All > > > > I have 10 children baptized in Diptford to William SHUTE & his wife > Elizabeth > > > > 1729 William > > 1733 William > > 1735 Charles > > 1736 John > > 1738 Mary > > 1739 Elizabeth > > 1740 Henry > > 1742 Elizabeth > > 1744 James > > 1747 Rachall > > > > I would very much like to find the marriage for William > SHUTE & Elizabeth > > > > William SHUTE was bap 1694 at Doddiscombsleigh. > > It is possible that he could have married anywhere between there and > Diptford. > > > > thanks for looking > > Gail > > OPC Diptford & North Huish > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6558 - Release Date: 02/03/14 > >

Found this DATE name and it reminded me that someone was after this name when I was looking for DOOR Loddiswell [very hard to read the wife's surname but here is my best bet] William DATE of Churchstow and Elizabeth TURTLEY married 6 Jul 1725 Bev

Why is everyone making wild guesses as to what happened. Stick only to the facts it causes less confusion. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Morgan Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:51 PM To: Devon Mailing List Subject: Re: [DEV] A puzzle The entry for William SEAWARD (Exeter 10 134) has been correctly transcribed from the typed index, but 134 is out of the expected range for Exeter registration district. I would place a small bet that William's correct reference is page 184, and that the typist who produced the typed index from the original handwritten index misread an 8 as a 3. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ever thought that that because of the variations in dates and ages, there may well be two Hughs. Not an unknown thing that can cause confusion. Something obviously isn't right. -----Original Message----- From: Roy E Drew Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:24 AM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Hugh David Vallance Johns Joy, many thanks for your reply and thinking Hugh could be a Gransdson! Something I hadn't thought of. A closer look at the 1851 census and I believe Hugh was 21! so ties in nicely with a Baptism in Black Torrington, 15 September 1820. Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com>; <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: [DEV] Hugh David Vallance Johns > Hi Joy, Hugh Johns , aged 2, labourer, with mother Anney > aged 74........hmmm????? > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 10:09 AM > Subject: Re: [DEV] Hugh David Vallance Johns > > > On the 1851 census there is a Hugh Johns aged 2, born Black Torrington, > Labourer, living at Village, Black Torrington with mother Anney aged 74, > Cordwinder's widow and sister Elizabeth aged 55 born Black Torrington and > brother Joseph aged 30 born Beaworthy. > > In 1841 the same children are with mother Ann and father Francis. Ann > would > have been in her early 50s at Hugh's birth, not impossible but I wonder if > Hugh was actually a grandson - illegitimate children were sometimes > brought > up as their grandparent's children. Hugh is a name that appeared in this > family (see below). There are several David Vallances in the 1841 census. > They seem to be located in the Northlew area so that may be a place to > look > for a baptism. > > Francis Johns married Ann Risdon at Black Torrington 30 Mar 1800. > > Francis and Ann baptised the following children in Black Torrington: > Francis Risdon Johns 24 Jun 1815 > John Johns 03 Mar 1817 > Hugh Johns 15 Sep 1820 (buried 1826) > Joseph Johns 30 Mar 1823 > > The long gap between the marriage and the baptism of Francis in 1815 > suggests they may have been baptising children somewhere else before then. > > A single mother Ann Johns baptised a son John Francis Johns at Black > Torrington 17 Sep 1834 (buried 1836). > > There are OPCs for Black Torrington and Beaworthy. > > Joy > > > > ________________________________ > From: Roy E Drew <r.drew893@btinternet.com> > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014, 17:52 > Subject: [DEV] Hugh David Vallance Johns > > > I have the marriage certificate for: > Hugh David Vallance Johns & Susannah Wooldridge, who married 7 November > 1856, Halwill PC by Banns > > HDV Johns was of Full Age, Bachelor, Labourer, of Chillah, Father was > David > Vallance, Farmer > Susannah Wooldridge was of Full Age, Spinster, of Halwill Moor, Father > James > Wooldridge, Labourer > Witnesses were Grace Wooldridge > & James Luxton. > > Chillah I believe is a place in Black Torrington. > Susanna was the daughter of James Wooldridge and Susanna Evely from > Northlew. I know about the Evely's and have them in various census. > > Hugh and Susanna had a daughter Harriet Ann Johns (1857, Halwill) who is > with her Grandparents James & Susanna in 1861 census. > > Hugh is in 1861 Census at Strews Upcott, Halwill (RG9/1509 F56 P6) age 29, > Widower, born Beaworthy > Hugh is in 1871/1881/1891/1901 where he is married to Sarah > (Brayley/Brealy) > born ca 1845, Sydenham Damerall and family. > > Does anyone know where I can find Hugh and any of his family before he > married in 1856? > Who were Hugh's parents and in particular his mother? > Why does he give his name as Johns and his father as Vallance? > > Roy > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/nutt_john_1E.html Nutt, a native of Lympstone, Devon, and a gunner on a Dartmouth vessel, went in 1620 to Newfoundland, where he and other seamen seized a French ship and turned pirates. They then took a large Plymouth ship and another “Fleming” vessel of 200 tons. After plundering the fishing fleet, Nutt sailed for England.He seems to have been a humane man, for a pirate: he had a wife and children at Torbay; he gave his crew good wages and paid them regularly; and when royal orders came to Sir John Eliot, vice-admiral of Devon, to press seamen for the navy, Nutt warned the sailors, hundreds of whom fled to Newfoundland. ETC....____There are 'errors' here as usual: he was not kind and humane and more likely settled in Topsham with his wife and family after his pardon.

Hi Jonathan: Your idea of basing a solution on the NDA is definitely worth pursuing. Cheers Brian On 4 Feb 2014, at 13:24, Jonathan Frayne wrote: > Hi all > > > > I want to talk about something other than research for a moment. > > > > Many of you will be aware of the proposal to merge Devon and Somerset > Heritage Services to form a charitable trust. This is the response to budget > cuts and has much to commend it. See > http://www.devon.gov.uk/record_office.htm for details. In Devon it affects > the archives which are rather the core of our interest and so are vital to > continue. > > > > With other officers from the DFHS I attended a presentation on the trust > proposals from the two current leaders of the heritage services. I asked > about the future of the NDRO as its name was conspicuous by its absence. > Speaking to Tim Worleighton, the head of Devon Heritage he said that the > future of the NDRO is not certain. He certainly doesn't want it to close and > is looking to find a different way of it remaining open, however this cannot > be guaranteed. His problem is a 30% cut in the budget for the NDRO next year > which he equates to a £30k shortfall. The budget has been already cut to the > bone and the only overhead he could cut now is staffing. If he does so (and > apart from the personal loss to the staff) he will have an unsustainable > level of staff so the NDRO would then close or be mothballed (keep the > archive safe but stop public access I think that means). Tim is looking to > convert the NDRO into a Service Point whereby it is a part of a multiple > access point for all council services which would then reduce the cost to > him and to the other departments. I didn't gain the idea that this was > getting much traction at present. This could mean the NDRO is closed or > reduced to an access point-this is a place where on-line and microform > records only are made available by prior arrangement and is common in > museums and similar across the county. The records would be safe either in > the NDRO or by taking them to Great Moor. > > > > I had a thought and I have written to several people to suggest this as a > possible way forward. I have no idea if it is in the slightest way feasible. > When you visit the NDRO there can seem to be a lot of staff around. I think > that only two of them are from the Heritage Service. Most of the rest are > from the North Devon Athenaeum. The Athenaeum has a large collection of its > own in the NDRO kept in the archive. They have staff. My thought was that > the Athenaeum could take on a large role in running the NDRO themselves as > they have a vested interest in so doing. There is a large capital investment > in the archive in security and climate control if nothing else. It struck me > as a possible way forward. I would welcome suggestions in other ways for the > future and probably so would Tim Worleighton at the Heritage Service. I > don't think it would be viable to merely be negative and oppose the cuts. > The money isn't there and any responses would need to be supportive and > constructive to carry weight. Do people have other ideas that could be > helpful? > > > > There is a consultation documentation available at > http://new.devon.gov.uk/heritagereview/the-proposal/ In my own opinion this > is not helpful as it doesn't address what are likely to be our concerns. > There are places to comment so I would urge everyone to use it and possibly > to answer the questions they would have wanted to be asked rather than the > ones that actually have been asked! It's our chance to play at politicians > on a talk show! I think that we have a window of opportunity to affect > policy decisions. I think the final decision will rest with the trust and > that will not be in place until September at the earliest so lobbying may > carry some weight. Please get involved from around the world. > > > > Jon Frayne > > North Devon Group Rep > > DFHS > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

Hi Bev & Joy Thank you so much for your help in finding this marriage. Good call Joy - South Brent would certainly be a likely place. Bev - really appreciate you checking for the marriage in South Brent - so many of these old fiche are difficult to read. Harberton is certainly close by and you are right SHOUT, SHOOT, SHUTT are other spellings for SHUTE. Thanks so much for looking and finding this for me. Gail -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of B. Edmonds Sent: February-04-14 12:20 PM To: Joy Langdon; devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] SHUTE in Diptford Gail & Joy No marriage that I can see in South Brent, but the years 1724-1727 are very hard to read. I just hope that when or if FMP get around to filming these records that their camera's are much stronger/better to be able to pick up the faint writing in some of these PR's. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:54 AM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] SHUTE in Diptford > Hello Gail, > > The baptisms for the children have the note "of South Brent". Have you > tried looking for a marriage there? I don't think there is anything > online for South Brent. > > Joy > > ________________________________ > From: Gail Pullyblank <gail@gailmail.com> > To: DEVON@rootsweb.com > Cc: eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 3:28 > Subject: [DEV] SHUTE in Diptford > > > Hi All > > > > I have 10 children baptized in Diptford to William SHUTE & his wife > Elizabeth > > > > 1729 William > > 1733 William > > 1735 Charles > > 1736 John > > 1738 Mary > > 1739 Elizabeth > > 1740 Henry > > 1742 Elizabeth > > 1744 James > > 1747 Rachall > > > > I would very much like to find the marriage for William SHUTE & > Elizabeth > > > > William SHUTE was bap 1694 at Doddiscombsleigh. > > It is possible that he could have married anywhere between there and > Diptford. > > > > thanks for looking > > Gail > > OPC Diptford & North Huish > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3684/6558 - Release Date: > 02/03/14 > > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elizabeth I submitted the original query re Benjamin VANSTONE which has been answered. Your message is in relation to a separate query from someone else. Could I suggest that any further correspondence has a different heading? You have not addressed your message to anyone. Bearing in mind, the content I assume it was not meant for me! :-) Adrian On 04/02/2014 12:51, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi, I see John and Ann Vanstone in Barton, St Mary church > , in the 1851 census , with their 5 daus and son John who is 3 months. all > are born St Mary church, apart from John senr who is 40 and b Broadwoodkelly > . Ann is 37 and therefore would have been born in 1814. It is possible that > James Towel, though this could be Fowel, and his family who live next door > to the Vanstones, is a brother . James wife Harriet is given a Not Known > birth place. but with them is living James, father , widower, 75, b Crediton > John and Ann are in the 1841 census at Barton with Mary , Ann and Sarah. > Also in the 1841 at Barton is James Towel, 65, ag lab, James, 30, ag lab, > Harriet, 30, and their 4 sons and two daus. > St Mary church has Terry Leaman for its OPC and he will no > doubt be able to find the bapt of Ann Towel and perhaps connect her to these > two James who may well be her father and brother. If you go to > genuki/devon/st marychurch then you will find his email . > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marianne Hansen" <stampingrammie2@msn.com> > To: <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:57 PM > Subject: Re: [DEV] Benjamon Vanstone > > >> >> >> Elizabeth,On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:26 AM, elizabeth howard wrote: >> >>> Hi, whilst looking for Benj Vanstone, I came >> across John Rockey , junr, buried aged 9 , 21.12.1835 of Moor Mill >> buried at Petrockstowe .. And Emanuel Rockey, buried aged 16 in >> Roborough 28.2.1839. .And Sally Rockey, buried aged 15 at Meeth, of >> Hatherleigh, 27.1.1814. And Elizabeth Rockey buried aged 4, 6th ? 1836 >> , Dowland. And 2. at Beaford, Rachel Rockey, aged 9 of Arlington >> Mill, on 31.01.1819 and Susanna aged 63, 04.02.1837 of Monk Okehampton. >> >> >> I joined this list to see if I could find information on my Vanstone line. >> Your post really got my attention. Could we be working on the same lines? >> I think I >> have a Tristam in my line, but not verified. >> >> My great- great >> grandmother was born in Barton by Torquay, Devon on 16 May 1835 Name >> Mary Towell Vanstone. She married Frederick John Tuckett 24 May 1864 in >> the Parrish Church, Dorwood, Devonshire, England. >> >> Her father was John Vanstone born in 1811 in >> Broadwoodkelly, Devon and was buried 10 July 1877 at St. Mary's church, >> in Barton, Devon. He married Ann Towell 14 July 1833 in St. Mary's >> church, Exeter. I have no further information on Ann Towell, and >> wondered in your searchings, if you have run across any Towells. I love >> lurking on this list and seeing all the things you all find, and hoping >> someday one of my names will pop up. Tuckett, Vanstone, Towell. >> >> Thanks for your time, >> >> Marianne Hansen, Idaho, USA >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try Findmypast. They show the names to be found on each page of the registry so you can check potential partners Paul ________________________________ From: "wendy@inskeep.co.nz" <wendy@inskeep.co.nz> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 19:24 Subject: [DEV] A puzzle On Free BMD for June quarter 1839 in Exeter there are four females named and only three males Is anyone able to provide another name to solve this puzzle? I am trying to trace a Maria Berry and cannot find a marriage for her Thanks Wendy in NZ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, We have traced our HOLMES ancestry to Harpford Parish, Devon, where a Robert HOLMES married a Mary BISHOP, 15 April, 1770. Their children: Thomas 1771 - 1850; Elizabeth 1772 - 1772; Ann 1773; John 1776 - 1844; Robert 1778; James 1782 Both Thomas and James went over to Seaton/Beer Parish, Devon, where James married Lucy Puttam, 1808, and Thomas married Ann Batstone Miller (Widow), 1801. Ann died and he later married Mary Ann Drew, of Colyton Parish. Thomas and Ann had: Thomas - 1802; James - 1804; Mary Ann - 1806 - Robert 1808. Thomas and Mary Ann had: Elizabeth 1816 - 1883; Willaim 1817; Noah 1819 - 1900; Fannie Bishop 1821 -: John 1823 - ; Henry Bishop - 1825; Joseph - 1828; Charlotte - 1835 James and Lucy had: Elizabeth - 1809 - 1866; Robert - 1811; Lucy - 1815 - 1891; James - 1816 - 1882; Wiliam Puttam - 1818 - 1875; Mary 1820; Thomas - 1822; Charlotte 1825 - 1892; Samuel 1826 - 1826; Sarah - 1827 John HOLMES married Hannah Patch of Venn Ottery,Devon and They had several children, in Harpford, and Venn Ottery. Any ideas, information, contacts, will be very much appreciated. Thanks for your reply. Regards, Wayne Stewart Holmes, DFHS #921 DFHS #921 ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The entry for William SEAWARD (Exeter 10 134) has been correctly transcribed from the typed index, but 134 is out of the expected range for Exeter registration district. I would place a small bet that William's correct reference is page 184, and that the typist who produced the typed index from the original handwritten index misread an 8 as a 3.

Most likely, there are four marriages on the page and the page number for the missing fourth male has been mistranscribed. Second most likely, there are only three marriages on the page, and the page number for the extra fourth female has been mistranscribed. I have resolved this sort of thing in the past by downloading an entire quarter's marriages for the Exeter registration district, putting them into Excel to make them easier to manipulate, and then finding (a) the entries with obviously garbled page numbers and (b) the entries on pages with a mismatched number of males and females. Then look at the images for these entries to work out what has gone wrong in each case. If you want to try this, and my explanation is unclear, let me know. If you do find a transcription error (or more than one) then be sure to submit a correction to FreeBMD.

Hello Gail,   The baptisms for the children have the note "of  South Brent".   Have you tried looking for a marriage there?   I don't think there is anything online for South Brent.   Joy  ________________________________ From: Gail Pullyblank <gail@gailmail.com> To: DEVON@rootsweb.com Cc: eng-dev-southhams@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2014, 3:28 Subject: [DEV] SHUTE in Diptford Hi All I have 10 children baptized in Diptford to William SHUTE & his wife Elizabeth 1729 William 1733 William 1735 Charles 1736 John 1738 Mary 1739 Elizabeth 1740 Henry 1742 Elizabeth 1744 James 1747 Rachall I would very much like to find the marriage for William SHUTE & Elizabeth William SHUTE was bap 1694 at Doddiscombsleigh. It is possible that he could have married anywhere between there and Diptford. thanks for looking Gail OPC Diptford & North Huish ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all I want to talk about something other than research for a moment. Many of you will be aware of the proposal to merge Devon and Somerset Heritage Services to form a charitable trust. This is the response to budget cuts and has much to commend it. See http://www.devon.gov.uk/record_office.htm for details. In Devon it affects the archives which are rather the core of our interest and so are vital to continue. With other officers from the DFHS I attended a presentation on the trust proposals from the two current leaders of the heritage services. I asked about the future of the NDRO as its name was conspicuous by its absence. Speaking to Tim Worleighton, the head of Devon Heritage he said that the future of the NDRO is not certain. He certainly doesn’t want it to close and is looking to find a different way of it remaining open, however this cannot be guaranteed. His problem is a 30% cut in the budget for the NDRO next year which he equates to a £30k shortfall. The budget has been already cut to the bone and the only overhead he could cut now is staffing. If he does so (and apart from the personal loss to the staff) he will have an unsustainable level of staff so the NDRO would then close or be mothballed (keep the archive safe but stop public access I think that means). Tim is looking to convert the NDRO into a Service Point whereby it is a part of a multiple access point for all council services which would then reduce the cost to him and to the other departments. I didn’t gain the idea that this was getting much traction at present. This could mean the NDRO is closed or reduced to an access point-this is a place where on-line and microform records only are made available by prior arrangement and is common in museums and similar across the county. The records would be safe either in the NDRO or by taking them to Great Moor. I had a thought and I have written to several people to suggest this as a possible way forward. I have no idea if it is in the slightest way feasible. When you visit the NDRO there can seem to be a lot of staff around. I think that only two of them are from the Heritage Service. Most of the rest are from the North Devon Athenaeum. The Athenaeum has a large collection of its own in the NDRO kept in the archive. They have staff. My thought was that the Athenaeum could take on a large role in running the NDRO themselves as they have a vested interest in so doing. There is a large capital investment in the archive in security and climate control if nothing else. It struck me as a possible way forward. I would welcome suggestions in other ways for the future and probably so would Tim Worleighton at the Heritage Service. I don’t think it would be viable to merely be negative and oppose the cuts. The money isn’t there and any responses would need to be supportive and constructive to carry weight. Do people have other ideas that could be helpful? There is a consultation documentation available at http://new.devon.gov.uk/heritagereview/the-proposal/ In my own opinion this is not helpful as it doesn’t address what are likely to be our concerns. There are places to comment so I would urge everyone to use it and possibly to answer the questions they would have wanted to be asked rather than the ones that actually have been asked! It’s our chance to play at politicians on a talk show! I think that we have a window of opportunity to affect policy decisions. I think the final decision will rest with the trust and that will not be in place until September at the earliest so lobbying may carry some weight. Please get involved from around the world. Jon Frayne North Devon Group Rep DFHS

Hello One suggestion is that perhaps there are two entries for the same woman i.e. one under her maiden name and one under her previous husband's name (thus she would be a widow); or perhaps under an a common alias (if perhaps she used a maiden name and the name of a step father interchangeably). I am sure there are other possibilities as well :) Sincerely Thelma On Free BMD for June quarter 1839 in Exeter there are four females named and only three males Is anyone able to provide another name to solve this puzzle?

Hi, I see John and Ann Vanstone in Barton, St Mary church , in the 1851 census , with their 5 daus and son John who is 3 months. all are born St Mary church, apart from John senr who is 40 and b Broadwoodkelly . Ann is 37 and therefore would have been born in 1814. It is possible that James Towel, though this could be Fowel, and his family who live next door to the Vanstones, is a brother . James wife Harriet is given a Not Known birth place. but with them is living James, father , widower, 75, b Crediton John and Ann are in the 1841 census at Barton with Mary , Ann and Sarah. Also in the 1841 at Barton is James Towel, 65, ag lab, James, 30, ag lab, Harriet, 30, and their 4 sons and two daus. St Mary church has Terry Leaman for its OPC and he will no doubt be able to find the bapt of Ann Towel and perhaps connect her to these two James who may well be her father and brother. If you go to genuki/devon/st marychurch then you will find his email . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Hansen" <stampingrammie2@msn.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] Benjamon Vanstone > > > > Elizabeth,On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:26 AM, elizabeth howard wrote: > >> >> Hi, whilst looking for Benj Vanstone, I came > across John Rockey , junr, buried aged 9 , 21.12.1835 of Moor Mill > buried at Petrockstowe .. And Emanuel Rockey, buried aged 16 in > Roborough 28.2.1839. .And Sally Rockey, buried aged 15 at Meeth, of > Hatherleigh, 27.1.1814. And Elizabeth Rockey buried aged 4, 6th ? 1836 > , Dowland. And 2. at Beaford, Rachel Rockey, aged 9 of Arlington > Mill, on 31.01.1819 and Susanna aged 63, 04.02.1837 of Monk Okehampton. > > > I joined this list to see if I could find information on my Vanstone line. > Your post really got my attention. Could we be working on the same lines? > I think I > have a Tristam in my line, but not verified. > > My great- great > grandmother was born in Barton by Torquay, Devon on 16 May 1835 Name > Mary Towell Vanstone. She married Frederick John Tuckett 24 May 1864 in > the Parrish Church, Dorwood, Devonshire, England. > > Her father was John Vanstone born in 1811 in > Broadwoodkelly, Devon and was buried 10 July 1877 at St. Mary's church, > in Barton, Devon. He married Ann Towell 14 July 1833 in St. Mary's > church, Exeter. I have no further information on Ann Towell, and > wondered in your searchings, if you have run across any Towells. I love > lurking on this list and seeing all the things you all find, and hoping > someday one of my names will pop up. Tuckett, Vanstone, Towell. > > Thanks for your time, > > Marianne Hansen, Idaho, USA > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >