On 5 June 2016 at 23:29, Brian Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > ... I’ve done some checking of the LDS maps against the ones I provide, > and it seems clear that the parish boundaries have been (at least) redrawn, > and perhaps independently researched. ... > Yes - sorry, I'd have said that if I'd thought - Barnstaple on GENUKI is a single parish but has been split into 3 on the LDS maps, so different research. (Err, not sure why 3....) Adrian

Hi Adrian: I’ve done some checking of the LDS maps against the ones I provide, and it seems clear that the parish boundaries have been (at least) redrawn, and perhaps independently researched. (This applies particularly to some of the Exeter parishes.) Cheers Brian On 5 Jun 2016, at 16:47, Adrian Bruce via <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5 June 2016 at 07:57, Diana Stevens via <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ... >> The LDS maps are OK, I've used them before but the background detail is >> fuzzy. >> ... >> > > Curious - I'm just comparing the GENUKI map of Barnstaple parish to the LDS > map and they look almost identical to me on screen - the parish boundaries > are in red on GENUKI and black on the LDS site. The background maps are (I > think) the same OS edition, with the LDS map more of a medium grey than the > GENUKI map, which is sort of a dark grey, so is slightly clearer. > > The LDS map can be zoomed in, whereas the GENUKI map is fixed coverage. > > Can I just ask what may be a dumb question, just in case - on the LDS maps, > you are using the Ordnance Survey map option and *not* the "Map" option? I > also have only the parish layer switched on. > > Or, is the problem in printing rather than viewing on screen? > > Adrian > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = [email protected] PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 FAX = +44 191 208 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

Hi Martin: As I recall it, I adjusted the size of the various parish maps, expanding those for small parishes. This will complicate the map reconstitution scheme that you suggest. (I in fact had to do some stitching together of maps in order to produce some of the parish maps - see for example - Alwington - since what I was starting from was about half a dozen regional maps, each covering a large number of parishes, and of course many parishes straddled the edges of these regional maps. But at least they were all on the same scale.) Cheers Brian On 5 Jun 2016, at 19:59, Martin Beavis via <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Diana - If you merely want to merge five overlapping parish maps from GENUKI, then it's a DIY job: (1) Right click on each parish map and Save Image As, which will save them to your hard drive as gif files; then use any imaging cropping software to lose the black box bordering each map. (2) Load the five image files into a photographic panorama software that can handle 2D arrays, such as Serif Panorama Plus (free Starter Edition) or Microsoft ICE (Image Composite Editor, also free, better resolution, best for photos) or Windows Live Photo Gallery (which comes with Windows 7, after converting gif to jpg). (3) Stitch the images automatically using default settings, do not bother to crop the jagged corners, save the "panorama" image as gif or jpg. That will give you the same basic image as the rather fuzzy England & Wales Jurisdictions 1851 on FamilySearch but with clearer detail. GENUKI is probably licenced to use the individual parish images but not to repackage them, so your compilation should be for your private personal use and not distributed or published without permission of the copyright owners. The original OS map, and others, albeit without parish boundaries, are on the NLS website. The panorama method works for any overlapping maps - but enough of that - this is not a software discussion forum. Don't bother trying to register for access via the UK Data Archive. I did that a year ago - they don't make it easy for non-academic personal users to justify their use of the data and my eventual login gave access to very little of any genealogical interest. I've just tried to download the Historic Parishes, was asked to explain why in at least 30 words, then immediately told that "These data are only available to users in higher or further education for not-for-profit purposes." This list has previously touched on the local mobility of labour and marriage partners in rural Devon (though I can't remember when). As I recall, listers commented that our ancestors rode and walked much longer distances than we present-day softies might expect, that parish boundaries were quite porous, that an outlying farm or hamlet might worship in the nearest church of an adjacent parish, and economic and social activities centred around the market towns. Hills and rivers were not so much barriers between towns and villages as the topographical features that determined their locations and the most conveniently passable routes between them. So if you're looking at a small area it might be relevant to include the market towns as well. And different factors might be relevant if your ancestors were nonconformist rather than Anglican. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message----- From: Diana Stevens via Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 7:57 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales Thanks Michael, Paul, Brian & Elizabeth for your suggestions. I just want a print/image that shows the terrain with the parish boundaries marked on it. The GENUKI maps are great, I hoped the authors might offer a print service. Distances don't mean much if there is a mountain or river in the way. Its nice to be able to see the place names, roads etc. The LDS maps are OK, I've used them before but the background detail is fuzzy. I have plenty of maps of the area including Parish Maps and an old OS Map that I bought in 1996 at the Kentisbeare General Store (once run by Samuel Ackland, a distant cousin) when we kept getting lost in the lanes. Regards Diana --------------------------- ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 FAX = +44 191 208 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

If you look at the INFO tab for each one, it says: Barnstaple is an Ancient Parish and a market town in the county of Devon. > and Barnstaple Holy Trinity is an Ecclesiastical Parish in the county of Devon, > created in 1846 from Barnstaple Ancient Parish; located on Barbican Road. > and Barnstaple St Mary Magdalene is an Ecclesiastical Parish in the county of > Devon, created in 1844 from Barnstaple Ancient Parish; located on Bear > Street. > Showing them separately makes it easier to show the coverage for the Ancient Parish versus the two newer ones. Jan Jan Murphy [email protected] On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Adrian Bruce via <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5 June 2016 at 23:29, Brian Randell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > ... I’ve done some checking of the LDS maps against the ones I provide, > > and it seems clear that the parish boundaries have been (at least) > redrawn, > > and perhaps independently researched. ... > > > > Yes - sorry, I'd have said that if I'd thought - Barnstaple on GENUKI is a > single parish but has been split into 3 on the LDS maps, so different > research. (Err, not sure why 3....) > > Adrian > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Diana - If you merely want to merge five overlapping parish maps from GENUKI, then it's a DIY job: (1) Right click on each parish map and Save Image As, which will save them to your hard drive as gif files; then use any imaging cropping software to lose the black box bordering each map. (2) Load the five image files into a photographic panorama software that can handle 2D arrays, such as Serif Panorama Plus (free Starter Edition) or Microsoft ICE (Image Composite Editor, also free, better resolution, best for photos) or Windows Live Photo Gallery (which comes with Windows 7, after converting gif to jpg). (3) Stitch the images automatically using default settings, do not bother to crop the jagged corners, save the "panorama" image as gif or jpg. That will give you the same basic image as the rather fuzzy England & Wales Jurisdictions 1851 on FamilySearch but with clearer detail. GENUKI is probably licenced to use the individual parish images but not to repackage them, so your compilation should be for your private personal use and not distributed or published without permission of the copyright owners. The original OS map, and others, albeit without parish boundaries, are on the NLS website. The panorama method works for any overlapping maps - but enough of that - this is not a software discussion forum. Don't bother trying to register for access via the UK Data Archive. I did that a year ago - they don't make it easy for non-academic personal users to justify their use of the data and my eventual login gave access to very little of any genealogical interest. I've just tried to download the Historic Parishes, was asked to explain why in at least 30 words, then immediately told that "These data are only available to users in higher or further education for not-for-profit purposes." This list has previously touched on the local mobility of labour and marriage partners in rural Devon (though I can't remember when). As I recall, listers commented that our ancestors rode and walked much longer distances than we present-day softies might expect, that parish boundaries were quite porous, that an outlying farm or hamlet might worship in the nearest church of an adjacent parish, and economic and social activities centred around the market towns. Hills and rivers were not so much barriers between towns and villages as the topographical features that determined their locations and the most conveniently passable routes between them. So if you're looking at a small area it might be relevant to include the market towns as well. And different factors might be relevant if your ancestors were nonconformist rather than Anglican. Regards - Martin Beavis -----Original Message----- From: Diana Stevens via Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 7:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales Thanks Michael, Paul, Brian & Elizabeth for your suggestions. I just want a print/image that shows the terrain with the parish boundaries marked on it. The GENUKI maps are great, I hoped the authors might offer a print service. Distances don't mean much if there is a mountain or river in the way. Its nice to be able to see the place names, roads etc. The LDS maps are OK, I've used them before but the background detail is fuzzy. I have plenty of maps of the area including Parish Maps and an old OS Map that I bought in 1996 at the Kentisbeare General Store (once run by Samuel Ackland, a distant cousin) when we kept getting lost in the lanes. Regards Diana ---------------------------

On 5 June 2016 at 07:57, Diana Stevens via <[email protected]> wrote: > ... > The LDS maps are OK, I've used them before but the background detail is > fuzzy. > ... > Curious - I'm just comparing the GENUKI map of Barnstaple parish to the LDS map and they look almost identical to me on screen - the parish boundaries are in red on GENUKI and black on the LDS site. The background maps are (I think) the same OS edition, with the LDS map more of a medium grey than the GENUKI map, which is sort of a dark grey, so is slightly clearer. The LDS map can be zoomed in, whereas the GENUKI map is fixed coverage. Can I just ask what may be a dumb question, just in case - on the LDS maps, you are using the Ordnance Survey map option and *not* the "Map" option? I also have only the parish layer switched on. Or, is the problem in printing rather than viewing on screen? Adrian

Hi Derek I just found your message. I have a copy of Peskett, a very useful book. Diana On 05/06/2016, at 3:20 AM, Brian Shilson <[email protected]> wrote: > You could try. > Guide to the parish and non-parochial Registers of Devon and Cornwall 1538-1837 by Hugh Peskett from the Devon & Cornwall record society. > > Derek > > On 3 June 2016 at 07:45, Diana Stevens via <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? > > Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. > > I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my ACKLAND family lived. > > Regards Diana

Thanks Michael, Paul, Brian & Elizabeth for your suggestions. I just want a print/image that shows the terrain with the parish boundaries marked on it. The GENUKI maps are great, I hoped the authors might offer a print service. Distances don't mean much if there is a mountain or river in the way. Its nice to be able to see the place names, roads etc. The LDS maps are OK, I've used them before but the background detail is fuzzy. I have plenty of maps of the area including Parish Maps and an old OS Map that I bought in 1996 at the Kentisbeare General Store (once run by Samuel Ackland, a distant cousin) when we kept getting lost in the lanes. Regards Diana On 04/06/2016, at 1:33 AM, Brian Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Paul > > Let me suggest an even simpler "Plan C" - namely to use the Nearby Places icon (a pair of opposing arrows) that you will find in the top right hand corner of each parish page in GENUKI/Devon! :-) > > This facility is in fact set up to show all the places within five miles of the parish, though you can specify a different distance if you wish. > > Cheers > > Brian Randell > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 3 Jun 2016, at 16:37, Paul Hockie via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Diana, >> >> If it is neighbouring parishes you are interested in, I would recommend >> downloading the free Parloc >> http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html . First you enter the >> Parish and then the distance around the parish to be searched. I usually >> start with 5 miles, this being the maximum distance a young swain would walk >> without passing a pub. The results can be printed as a list or chart and >> include OS references and includes parishes in neighbouring counties. >> Searching the parishes on the list does show up how many parishes are not >> yet online. >> Parloc Uffculme 5 miles >> >> The following list of Parishes are within a >> 5 Mile Radius of Uffculme. >> >> Parish Name Type,County,Country,OsRef Distance >> & Direction >> =========== ========================= >> ==================== >> >> Blackborough P DEV ENG ST0909 2.6 >> South East >> Burlescombe P DEV ENG ST0716 2.6 North by >> North East >> Cullompton P DEV ENG ST0207 4.0 >> South West >> Culmstock P DEV ENG ST1013 2.6 East by >> North East >> Halberton P DEV ENG ST0012 3.7 >> West >> Hemyock P DEV ENG ST1313 4.4 >> East >> Hockworthy P DEV ENG ST0319 4.7 North by >> North West >> Holcombe Rogus P DEV ENG ST0518 3.8 North >> >> Kentisbeare P DEV ENG ST0608 2.5 South >> >> Sampford Arundel P SOM ENG ST1018 4.5 North by North >> East >> Sampford Peverell P DEV ENG ST0314 2.2 West by North >> West >> Sheldon P DEV ENG ST1208 4.5 >> East by South East >> Uffculme P DEV ENG ST0612 0.0 >> >> Uplowman P DEV ENG ST0115 3.6 West by >> North West >> Willand P DEV ENG ST0310 2.2 >> West by South West >> >> Plan B is Phillimores Atlas with printed maps and an index showing the >> locations of copies of remaining registers. This is expensive but you may be >> able to find cheap copies. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Diana Stevens via >> Sent: 03 June 2016 07:45 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales >> >> Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map >> that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? >> >> Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an >> Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata >> [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive >> [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. >> >> I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which >> includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my >> ACKLAND family lived. >> >> Regards Diana

Hi Diana, Also worth looking at the National Library of Scotland maps, which cover England too, here: http://maps.nls.uk/index.html and click on "Find by place" Although not so good at identifying parish boundaries, it has historic maps that are sometimes more suited to understanding road layouts in the past. Best wishes, Mike Gould Leicestershire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diana Stevens via Sent: 05 June 2016 07:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales Thanks Michael, Paul, Brian & Elizabeth for your suggestions. I just want a print/image that shows the terrain with the parish boundaries marked on it. The GENUKI maps are great, I hoped the authors might offer a print service. Distances don't mean much if there is a mountain or river in the way. Its nice to be able to see the place names, roads etc. The LDS maps are OK, I've used them before but the background detail is fuzzy. I have plenty of maps of the area including Parish Maps and an old OS Map that I bought in 1996 at the Kentisbeare General Store (once run by Samuel Ackland, a distant cousin) when we kept getting lost in the lanes. Regards Diana On 04/06/2016, at 1:33 AM, Brian Randell <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Paul > > Let me suggest an even simpler "Plan C" - namely to use the Nearby Places icon (a pair of opposing arrows) that you will find in the top right hand corner of each parish page in GENUKI/Devon! :-) > > This facility is in fact set up to show all the places within five miles of the parish, though you can specify a different distance if you wish. > > Cheers > > Brian Randell > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 3 Jun 2016, at 16:37, Paul Hockie via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Diana, >> >> If it is neighbouring parishes you are interested in, I would recommend >> downloading the free Parloc >> http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html . First you enter the >> Parish and then the distance around the parish to be searched. I usually >> start with 5 miles, this being the maximum distance a young swain would walk >> without passing a pub. The results can be printed as a list or chart and >> include OS references and includes parishes in neighbouring counties. >> Searching the parishes on the list does show up how many parishes are not >> yet online. >> Parloc Uffculme 5 miles >> >> The following list of Parishes are within a >> 5 Mile Radius of Uffculme. >> >> Parish Name Type,County,Country,OsRef Distance >> & Direction >> =========== ========================= >> ==================== >> >> Blackborough P DEV ENG ST0909 2.6 >> South East >> Burlescombe P DEV ENG ST0716 2.6 North by >> North East >> Cullompton P DEV ENG ST0207 4.0 >> South West >> Culmstock P DEV ENG ST1013 2.6 East by >> North East >> Halberton P DEV ENG ST0012 3.7 >> West >> Hemyock P DEV ENG ST1313 4.4 >> East >> Hockworthy P DEV ENG ST0319 4.7 North by >> North West >> Holcombe Rogus P DEV ENG ST0518 3.8 North >> >> Kentisbeare P DEV ENG ST0608 2.5 South >> >> Sampford Arundel P SOM ENG ST1018 4.5 North by North >> East >> Sampford Peverell P DEV ENG ST0314 2.2 West by North >> West >> Sheldon P DEV ENG ST1208 4.5 >> East by South East >> Uffculme P DEV ENG ST0612 0.0 >> >> Uplowman P DEV ENG ST0115 3.6 West by >> North West >> Willand P DEV ENG ST0310 2.2 >> West by South West >> >> Plan B is Phillimores Atlas with printed maps and an index showing the >> locations of copies of remaining registers. This is expensive but you may be >> able to find cheap copies. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Diana Stevens via >> Sent: 03 June 2016 07:45 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales >> >> Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map >> that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? >> >> Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an >> Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata >> [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive >> [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. >> >> I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which >> includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my >> ACKLAND family lived. >> >> Regards Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Update Morning Have discovered she is really Nellie M. H. EDMUNDS [thank you Peter and Louise] Also, her name was Nellie Mary Hepburn EDMUNDS otherwise Ellen Mary EDMUNDS born 1870 Lambeth in London. She is the daughter of Henry Chase EDMUNDS and Mary Caroline HEPBURN who married 1865. Regards Bev > > > >

Update Morning Have discovered she is really Nellie M. H. EDMUNDS [thank you Peter and Louise] Also, her name was Nellie Mary Hepburn EDMUNDS otherwise Ellen Mary EDMUNDS born 1870 Lambeth in London. She is the daughter of Henry Chase EDMUNDS and Mary Caroline HEPBURN who married 1865 at Lambeth. Regards Bev > > > > Subject: [DEV] Kellie M. H. EDMUNDS c 1870 > Afternoon > The 1939 register has a Kellie M. H. EDMUNDS c 1870 living at Kingsbridge. > I have been unable to find out who she is. > She is living with 2 Piggott sisters, Mary & Emma who were living at > Hartsholme in Thurlestone in 1941 & 1945. > I am wondering if she was a Piggott girl who married an EDMUNDS/EDMONDS. > I cannot find a death for her either. > Does anyone out there have a connection to this lass please? > Regards > Bev Edmonds > >

Afternoon The 1939 register has a Kellie M. H. EDMUNDS c 1870 living at Kingsbridge. I have been unable to find out who she is. She is living with 2 Piggott sisters, Mary & Emma who were living at Hartsholme in Thurlestone in 1941 & 1945. I am wondering if she was a Piggott girl who married an EDMUNDS/EDMONDS. I cannot find a death for her either. Does anyone out there have a connection to this lass please? Regards Bev Edmonds

Bev, Looking at the actual image you can see she has been mis-transcribed, she should be Nellie M. H. Edmunds. The birth year was recoded as 1876 originally, then altered to 1870. There is another married couple at the same address with the surname Fenner and their daughter. HTH Peter Subject: [DEV] Kellie M. H. EDMUNDS c 1870 Afternoon The 1939 register has a Kellie M. H. EDMUNDS c 1870 living at Kingsbridge. I have been unable to find out who she is. She is living with 2 Piggott sisters, Mary & Emma who were living at Hartsholme in Thurlestone in 1941 & 1945. I am wondering if she was a Piggott girl who married an EDMUNDS/EDMONDS. I cannot find a death for her either. Does anyone out there have a connection to this lass please? Regards Bev Edmonds

Hi Paul Let me suggest an even simpler "Plan C" - namely to use the Nearby Places icon (a pair of opposing arrows) that you will find in the top right hand corner of each parish page in GENUKI/Devon! :-) This facility is in fact set up to show all the places within five miles of the parish, though you can specify a different distance if you wish. Cheers Brian Randell Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Jun 2016, at 16:37, Paul Hockie via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Diana, > > If it is neighbouring parishes you are interested in, I would recommend > downloading the free Parloc > http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html . First you enter the > Parish and then the distance around the parish to be searched. I usually > start with 5 miles, this being the maximum distance a young swain would walk > without passing a pub. The results can be printed as a list or chart and > include OS references and includes parishes in neighbouring counties. > Searching the parishes on the list does show up how many parishes are not > yet online. > Parloc Uffculme 5 miles > > The following list of Parishes are within a > 5 Mile Radius of Uffculme. > > Parish Name Type,County,Country,OsRef Distance > & Direction > =========== ========================= > ==================== > > Blackborough P DEV ENG ST0909 2.6 > South East > Burlescombe P DEV ENG ST0716 2.6 North by > North East > Cullompton P DEV ENG ST0207 4.0 > South West > Culmstock P DEV ENG ST1013 2.6 East by > North East > Halberton P DEV ENG ST0012 3.7 > West > Hemyock P DEV ENG ST1313 4.4 > East > Hockworthy P DEV ENG ST0319 4.7 North by > North West > Holcombe Rogus P DEV ENG ST0518 3.8 North > > Kentisbeare P DEV ENG ST0608 2.5 South > > Sampford Arundel P SOM ENG ST1018 4.5 North by North > East > Sampford Peverell P DEV ENG ST0314 2.2 West by North > West > Sheldon P DEV ENG ST1208 4.5 > East by South East > Uffculme P DEV ENG ST0612 0.0 > > Uplowman P DEV ENG ST0115 3.6 West by > North West > Willand P DEV ENG ST0310 2.2 > West by South West > > Plan B is Phillimores Atlas with printed maps and an index showing the > locations of copies of remaining registers. This is expensive but you may be > able to find cheap copies. > > Cheers > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Diana Stevens via > Sent: 03 June 2016 07:45 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales > > Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map > that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? > > Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an > Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata > [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive > [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. > > I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which > includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my > ACKLAND family lived. > > Regards Diana > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be > found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diana, If it is neighbouring parishes you are interested in, I would recommend downloading the free Parloc http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html . First you enter the Parish and then the distance around the parish to be searched. I usually start with 5 miles, this being the maximum distance a young swain would walk without passing a pub. The results can be printed as a list or chart and include OS references and includes parishes in neighbouring counties. Searching the parishes on the list does show up how many parishes are not yet online. Parloc Uffculme 5 miles The following list of Parishes are within a 5 Mile Radius of Uffculme. Parish Name Type,County,Country,OsRef Distance & Direction =========== ========================= ==================== Blackborough P DEV ENG ST0909 2.6 South East Burlescombe P DEV ENG ST0716 2.6 North by North East Cullompton P DEV ENG ST0207 4.0 South West Culmstock P DEV ENG ST1013 2.6 East by North East Halberton P DEV ENG ST0012 3.7 West Hemyock P DEV ENG ST1313 4.4 East Hockworthy P DEV ENG ST0319 4.7 North by North West Holcombe Rogus P DEV ENG ST0518 3.8 North Kentisbeare P DEV ENG ST0608 2.5 South Sampford Arundel P SOM ENG ST1018 4.5 North by North East Sampford Peverell P DEV ENG ST0314 2.2 West by North West Sheldon P DEV ENG ST1208 4.5 East by South East Uffculme P DEV ENG ST0612 0.0 Uplowman P DEV ENG ST0115 3.6 West by North West Willand P DEV ENG ST0310 2.2 West by South West Plan B is Phillimores Atlas with printed maps and an index showing the locations of copies of remaining registers. This is expensive but you may be able to find cheap copies. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diana Stevens via Sent: 03 June 2016 07:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Historic Parishes of England and Wales Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my ACKLAND family lived. Regards Diana ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my ACKLAND family lived. Regards Diana

At last I have found where my Thomas ACKLANDs lived in the Dunkeswell Land Tax Assessments. In the 1780s they were renting Abbey Wood and Musgraves. In the 1830s Thomas Jnr rented Hooked Rise Farm from Rev Mr PALMER. I have found all these places on the map and it confirms my suspicion that Thomas Snr lived in the area where the parishes of Hemyock (where he came from), Sheldon and Dunkeswell meet. Thomas Snr died in 1827 age 99 Dunkeswell, he may have moved to Hooked Rise with Thomas Jnr but I suspect he lived with his daughter Sarah, wife of Samuel SPARKES. The LTAs show the SPARKES, Peter and then his son Samuel as proprietors of Ridgeways House (in the 1780's listed as 'former Ridgeways House'). I can't find where this was, does anyone know? To complicate things in the 1830s John SCADDING is also listed as a proprietor of Ridgeways and is renting to William RIDGEWAY. In 1841 Samuel SPARKES was at Abbey Mills with his wife Sarah, son Nicholas & granddaughter Sarah plus Elizabeth ACKLAND his grand niece. The SPARKES family remained there until 1911, Samuel's son Nicholas, then William (maybe another son or a cousin), then William's widow Ann, then William's son Nicholas. Maybe 'Ridgeways' was either near or actually part of Abbey Mills? None of these people appear in the 1844 Tithes and the only property named is Hooked Rise which according to the summary still belongs to Rev William PALMER though in the list it belongs to George E S SPEKE and is rented to James ROSIER (Thomas ACKLAND Jnr moved to Pitminster before 1837). I have not read the records 1791-1815 as I could not get to the LDS Library and the film is due to go back in a couple of days. I have made a few assumptions about identity so if anyone has any extra information or other opinions please let me know. Regards Diana

Searching for further info re John Westicott born 18/2/1770 Exeter died 1823 Merton....married Ann Pike 20 Dec 1791 Upton Pyne....Children etc

Hello Diana A good alternative is the England & Wales Jurisdictions 1851 <http://maps.familysearch.org/> which is part of the Family Search web site. Mike Shropshire, UK ____________________________________ On 03/06/2016 07:45, Diana Stevens via wrote: > Does anyone know if its possible to get a print/image of portion of the map that Brian has used on GENUKI, showing several adjoining parishes? > > Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R., Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata [computer file]. Colchester, Essex: History Data Service, UK Data Archive [distributor], 17 May 2001. SN: 4348. > > I see there is a set of 3 CDs but I just want the area of Devon which includes Uffculme, Sheldon, Dunkeswell, Hemyock and Kentisbeare where my ACKLAND family lived. > > Regards Diana --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello, Some considerable time ago, I hit a brick wall searching for my ancestor, Richard Full (possible parents Thomas & Joan Full). The earliest record found was his marriage to Susanna crossing at Woodland in 1700. One of the possible places he may have lived was Broadhempston. I note that in May 2016," Broadhempston Parish Registers (1678-1900) transcript (11pages)" were added to Genuki/ Devon. My old memory has let me down again & I have forgotten how to access this new information. Can someone please help me. I would be very grateful Thank you Norman Full Australia