The one thing I would say, having checked the image above is that it does NOT say "last resident Ireland", it says "Last Legal Settlement Ireland". Notice also at the top, it says,"An Act for the Relief ... of the Poor". Now, I've no understanding at all of the Poor Law in Pennsylvania, but if it's anything like that in the UK, the place of settlement was where you got sent back to if you fell on hard times because they weren't paying for you here, thank you. For ordinary people, their place of settlement would start out as their birthplace and it would be quite difficult, in the absence of a long settled job, to alter it. Hence she could have been living in Liverpool but still kept her place of settlement as Ireland. Having checked on Ancestry, I find it difficult to find details of the voyage, so, on a quick glance, I can't find the route. But gut feeling is that transatlantic shipping did not start in a place like Cobh. But nothing I've seen so far comes close to *confirming* where she got on. It's perfectly possible that she sailed from Liverpool. It's just as possible that she got on at Cobh / Queenstown. Adrian

Hope this link works for image https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPB9-92Y?i=570&wc=M616-JZ3%3A214206201%3Fcc%3D1921481&cc=1921481 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPB9-92Y?i=570&wc=M616-JZ3%3A214206201%3Fcc%3D1921481&cc=1921481 Jane > > On 25 June 2016 at 21:57 "[email protected] via" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello, Diana-- > > On 18 June 2016 you wrote, in part: > > >I am looking for help to find if there are passenger lists or other > >records of travel > >from England to Ireland between 1879 and 1884. > > > >I am wanting to find out when Rose MARDON my great grandmother left > >England to go to USA. > > > >She must have gone to Ireland first - sometime between 1879 and 1884, as > >she is on the > >passenger list of the ship “Ohio" arriving in Philadelphia USA on 13 > >May 1884 from > >Ireland. We think she might have left England earlier than 1884. > > I double-checked this passenger list entry at Ancestry.com, since a number > of ships that departed from English ports often stopped at Cobh/Queenstown (= > Cork harbor) in Ireland on their way across the Atlantic. I've been unable to > access the passenger list _image_, but Ancestry's data _summary_ ("record) > says that Rose MARDON, born about 1858 IN IRELAND, last resident OF IRELAND, > departed from LIVERPOOL on the ship "Ohio" and arrived in Philadelphia on 13 > May 1884. It's _possible_ this ship began her voyage in Liverpool and then > stopped in Ireland, as discussed above; or you may have to run your search in > reverse! > > I'll keep trying to find an image of this passenger list, to be sure > Ancestry's info is correct. It may take a while; maybe someone else can help > with this search in the meantime. > > Hope you can clear this potential problem up soon! > > Sue Budlong in Falls Church, Virginia, U.S.A. > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Diana-- On 18 June 2016 you wrote, in part: >I am looking for help to find if there are passenger lists or other records of travel >from England to Ireland between 1879 and 1884. > >I am wanting to find out when Rose MARDON my great grandmother left England to go to USA. > >She must have gone to Ireland first - sometime between 1879 and 1884, as she is on the >passenger list of the ship “Ohio" arriving in Philadelphia USA on 13 May 1884 from >Ireland. We think she might have left England earlier than 1884. I double-checked this passenger list entry at Ancestry.com, since a number of ships that departed from English ports often stopped at Cobh/Queenstown (= Cork harbor) in Ireland on their way across the Atlantic. I've been unable to access the passenger list _image_, but Ancestry's data _summary_ ("record) says that Rose MARDON, born about 1858 IN IRELAND, last resident OF IRELAND, departed from LIVERPOOL on the ship "Ohio" and arrived in Philadelphia on 13 May 1884. It's _possible_ this ship began her voyage in Liverpool and then stopped in Ireland, as discussed above; or you may have to run your search in reverse! I'll keep trying to find an image of this passenger list, to be sure Ancestry's info is correct. It may take a while; maybe someone else can help with this search in the meantime. Hope you can clear this potential problem up soon! Sue Budlong in Falls Church, Virginia, U.S.A.

Jeff, I am not sure what the question is. James and Sarah, in Barnstaple, had two children baptised on 10 Feb 1877, James Owen and John Owen and then had a further 6, ending in 1788. I could not see a marriage between James and Sarah in Barnstaple. In the same period in Tiverton Henry Rendle and Susanna produced 4 children, Henry and Elizabeth 3 children and Henry and Charity 1. Similarly a James and Ann 2, Susannah 1 and Sarah 1. There seems to be a number of James and Henrys in Tiverton. It is possible that James and Sarah are the ones in Barnstaple. Only the James/Sarah and Henry/Susanna marriages seem to be recorded in Tiverton. The above is based on Familysearch. FMP may add to this. There are Rendle in both Barnstaple and Tiverton at this time so a the families may not be connected. The middle name may suggest that a common ancestor exists, possible Welsh. My first port of call would be to get copies of the original entries in the parish register and the BTs. If James and Sarah turned up in Barnstaple there might be references to rights of residence other notes. Also if the vicar was not concentrating. Henry Rendle and Charity had all but one of their children between 1744 and 1752, but the last being born 1770. It's also worth looking through the deaths to if there are possible deaths in both Tiverton and Barnstaple. Armed with the registers it may be possible to construct the various family trees. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Butler via Sent: 18 June 2016 06:39 To: Jeff Butler; [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] Help with two bapt; My mistake John Owens Rendell bapt; 11 Jun Tiverton his parents where where James Rendell married Sarah Owens married 15 May 1775 Jeff ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diana, What information are you looking for? At this time the whole of Ireland was still part of the United Kingdom so journeys between England and Ireland were domestic and not recorded. As well as ferries, some ships from England/Scotland stopped off in Ireland, usually Cork or Derry so Ireland was there last place of call and there was also a coastal trade which collected emigrants from small coastal ports and left them off in Ireland. By this time, also trains ran to Holyhead and from there on to Dublin and Cork. I looked at the 2 emigration records on FMP and both implied that this Rose was Irish. One of them lists passengers on an assisted passage scheme. It seems odd that Rose would choose this route when there were easier passages from Bristol or even Liverpool. I also wonder what happened to Rose's daughter. Why did she not go to the US? She seems to be illegitimate so may appear in the poor law records in DRO. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of smith26bd via Sent: 19 June 2016 04:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [DEV] Help with travel records Hi, I am looking for help to find if there are passenger lists or other records of travel from England to Ireland between 1879 and 1884. I am wanting to find out when Rose MARDON my great grandmother left England to go to USA. She must have gone to Ireland first - sometime between 1879 and 1884, as she is on the passenger list of the ship “Ohio" arriving in Philadelphia USA on 13 May 1884 from Ireland. We think she might have left England earlier than 1884. Her details are: Rose MARDON - born in 1858, in Exeter, parents William and Susan MARDON Living at 3 Waterloo Place, St David in 1861, and Easton Buildings, St Lawrence in 1871 censuses. She had a baby Rose Nelly MARDON on 27 October 1878 in Exmouth. After that I think she was a visitor at Farm Terrace, Highweek with the Worth family on the 1881 census (without the baby). (There was another Rose Mardon in Exeter, a piano tuner, but she was in Exeter for the 1881 census). I would appreciate any help with information. Thank you, Diana Smith Melbourne Australia ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am looking for help to find if there are passenger lists or other records of travel from England to Ireland between 1879 and 1884. I am wanting to find out when Rose MARDON my great grandmother left England to go to USA. She must have gone to Ireland first - sometime between 1879 and 1884, as she is on the passenger list of the ship “Ohio" arriving in Philadelphia USA on 13 May 1884 from Ireland. We think she might have left England earlier than 1884. Her details are: Rose MARDON - born in 1858, in Exeter, parents William and Susan MARDON Living at 3 Waterloo Place, St David in 1861, and Easton Buildings, St Lawrence in 1871 censuses. She had a baby Rose Nelly MARDON on 27 October 1878 in Exmouth. After that I think she was a visitor at Farm Terrace, Highweek with the Worth family on the 1881 census (without the baby). (There was another Rose Mardon in Exeter, a piano tuner, but she was in Exeter for the 1881 census). I would appreciate any help with information. Thank you, Diana Smith Melbourne Australia

My mistake John Owens Rendell bapt; 11 Jun Tiverton his parents where where James Rendell married Sarah Owens married 15 May 1775 Jeff

Hi looking for help with three John Owens Rendell /Rendle . In Tiverton there is John Owens Rendell bapt; 23 May 1768 to Henry and Susanna Owens also a John Owens Rendell bapt 11 Jun Tiverton to James and Susan Owens these I have take of a film from the LDS church. Now there is also a John Owens Rendle bapt;10 Feb 1777 in Barnstaple to James and Sarah do not have her maiden name. Would any one have this Sarah maiden name for what I can see on Ancestry people are joining up the families Jeff

Devon and Exeter Gazette, April 2nd 1943 Topsham Athlete Leonard Brown NEWMAN, son of Mr and Mrs J. NEWMAN of Shapter St, Topsham who died at Liverpool from Pneumonia following a minor operation was buried at Anfield Cemetery near Liverpool after a service at Christ Church, Norris Green, conducted by Rev C. D. WINSTANLEY, M.A. The bearers were members of the Liverpool Police, to which the deceased belonged. The superintendent and many of B. Division were present. Mr NEWMAN was 36 years old and educated at Topsham School, and was employed by his father as a fisherman before joining the Devon Police Force, afterwards moving to Liverpool. He was a member of Exeter Harriers and in 1927 won the cup in the Exeter to Exmouth walk. The private mourners included Mrs L. NEWMAN, widow, Mr J. NEWMAN, father, Mrs WEST, sister, Misses HORNBY, 2, sisters in law, and Uncle Tom. The mother and brother Lt C. NEWMAN, R.N.V.R. were unable to attend. Amongst the many floral tributes were wreaths from several Liverpool Police Divisions, and A.R.P, wardens. A sister Emmie was killed in a motor accident on the Exeter Rd, ten years ago. A widow, nee HORNBY, and two children are left to mourn their loss Photograph here bottom page http://old-merseytimes.co.uk/policedeaths.html Regards Jane

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Hi all. I went to a talk by a local expert recently. She was able to outline how the X Chromosome could be used to narrow down choices on the maternal side. This information is included in FTdna Family Finder tests. In Matches or the Chromosome Browser just click on selection and chose X matches. If you look at X Chromosome sites on internet you will not have any difficulty finding a useful chart which will help ID lines concerned. As females get an X Chromosome from both their father and mother and males an X Chromosome from mother only several lines on your maternal side or fathers mothers side quickly become clear. Regards Chas Le Breton

The Scandinavian bit can easily be explained by a little thing called the Norman Conquest. We all must have Norman ancestors somewhere in our family tree - my own DNA test showed a direct paternal line to Normans. In fact, as I know from other branches of my paternal family where they are likely to have been living at the time of Domesday, the record for the parish includes a 'Frenchman' among the residents. Although the term as used in Domesday applied to all foreigners, not necessarily French, I think that may be him. Normans were ethnically Angles who had migrated from what is now Denmark into Northern France - they were originally Norsemen. Angela in Exmouth ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 12/06/2016 - 16:23 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : [DEV] E DNA Had my DNA done in March 2016. There is a percentage missing and do not understand that. With all my research going back years, have only found family coming from Devon, Somerset and Hampshire then there is a French connection some 30 generations back. As far as autosomal testing, I am sure how to do that. My Ethnicity estimate is (100% European) 84% British with various trace regions including 4% Russian/Finish, 2% Scandinavian etc. Our ancestors got around. Edna ~ Ottawa ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi E DNA What test did you take? looking at your name it can't be a Y DNA test. Mike On 12/06/2016 16:23, liverpud via wrote: > Had my DNA done in March 2016. There is a percentage missing and do not understand that. > With all my research going back years, have only found family coming from Devon, Somerset and Hampshire > then there is a French connection some 30 generations back. As far as autosomal testing, I am > sure how to do that. >

Hi Philip: Your page (which I see makes good use of my transcript of White’s description of North Molton :-) is very interesting so i’ve provided a link to it from under Genealogy on my North Molton page in GENUKI/Devon. Cheers Brian Randell On 12 Jun 2016, at 19:16, Philip Shaddock [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [DevonDNA] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: My research into Shattockes (Shaddocks, Shaddicks, Shattocks) in Devon shows that they entered Devon from Somerset late in the 15th century, first settling in North Molton and spreading out from there. I have summarized the research here: http://www.shaddock.ca/north-molton-shattockes -- Cheers, Philip __._,_.___ ________________________________ Posted by: Philip Shaddock <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ________________________________ VISIT YOUR GROUP<https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DevonDNA/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbWM5Y3I2BF9TAzk3NDkwNTA1BGdycElkAzI5MzA0NDE5BGdycHNwSWQDMTY5MDE4Nzk4MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NjU3NTUzNzg-> [Yahoo! Groups]<https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbTB2cDFtBF9TAzk3NDkwNTAzBGdycElkAzI5MzA0NDE5BGdycHNwSWQDMTY5MDE4Nzk4MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ2NTc1NTM3OA--> • Privacy<https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/uk/yahoo/groups/details.html> • Unsubscribe<mailto:[email protected]?subject=Unsubscribe> • Terms of Use<https://info.yahoo.com/legal/uk/yahoo/utos/en-gb/details.html> __,_._,___ -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 FAX = +44 191 208 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell

Your ethnicity is very similar to mine Edna. Do you have Viking ancestry? Ruth Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2016, at 16:24, liverpud via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Had my DNA done in March 2016. There is a percentage missing and do not understand that. > With all my research going back years, have only found family coming from Devon, Somerset and Hampshire > then there is a French connection some 30 generations back. As far as autosomal testing, I am > sure how to do that. > > My Ethnicity estimate is (100% European) > 84% British with various trace regions including 4% Russian/Finish, 2% Scandinavian etc. Our ancestors got around. > > Edna ~ Ottawa > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As far as I understand DNA testing of any type confirms that a DNA strand(s) in two samples are identical and therefore come from the same source and the number of generations back can be calculated. As DNA does not carry names the only way to verify the result is a paper trail as was required confirm the identity of Richard III and the Romanovs. I guess it would be theoretically possible to create a DNA based ancestry by matching at each generation but this but this would need a database of almost the entire population. Current genealogical DNA databases are tiny compared to the amount of paper based records. There are other problems. In 1600 the population was around 4 million, it is currently around 55 million. In between there have been roughly 16 generation giving around 65,000 direct ancestors alive in 1600. The chances of common ancestry in the 17th century is extremely high and back to 1066 almost a certainty. The one thing DNA will show up is "strays", from illicit relationships through to today's surrogacy etc. and genetic engineering. A few years ago I had a low cost DNA test to identify regional origin. The results basically gave an area where I would be most likely to find a person with a similar strand of DNA. I was looking to confirm a family story that my great-grandfather came from Austria around 1875. Austria at that time covered most of central Europe. Poland and the Czech republic did appear in the list but at the top was Northern Ireland. This was odd as I have not come across any direct ancestors from Ireland. The mystery was solved when I looked at the next few places in the list, all Scandinavian. A quick word with the lab and all was revealed. I have a fair proportion of Scottish and North-Eastern ancestors all of whom would have picked up Viking DNA, the same Vikings who invaded Ireland. The odd thing is that we have red hair in the family, but the only grandparent with red hair was pure Devon. The working assumption is that the came from the Normans (Norsemen) and is a "stray". I am still working on that. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of blackmore terry via Sent: 10 June 2016 22:58 To: devon Subject: [DEV] DNA testing One thing I've noticed with regard to DNA testing, while it does prove that there is a link between two people with known DNA, there is one flaw. Unless we dig up all known named graves in say Devon and take DNA samples we are unlikely to ever know exactly who in ancient Devon we could actually be descended from. DNA will show exactly where the generations join, but not who they were. To me there is only one possible way of knowing our ancestory is down the female line. Only one person can be the mother of a child, but any male can be the father. This still depends on if the information we have is of the correct mother. Unless we invent time travel, sorting out our family pedigrees will always be one of a lot of guess work. ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think our match to 8 x great grandparents Matthew Wreford and Bridget Chidley/Chudley with a compatibility of only 40% could be due to the fact that my family were in Morchard Bishop for some 300 years so the intermarriages are very many and very interesting and the trail goes back to 1440 in Hennock, Devon and the families of my match in Morchard Bishop is equally as long. We have a number of the names in Morchard Bishop in common and so there are perhaps many more connections that we have yet to find, his connection to Morchard Bishop is more recent than mine. However, in that time my ancestry has only 2 male surnames, obviously Wreford and also Elston, but the female lines are the interesting ones and it is through Johan Wreford who married Richard Elston in 1696 and Drusilla Elston's marriage to Henry Crocker in 1808, my 3x great grandparents, that my descent is now confirmed. All the hard work was actually constructing this tree using original records etc with the help of 'cousins' who worked in the same way as I and whose work I trusted. Jean Hodges -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Johnstone via Sent: 12 June 2016 11:05 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DEV] DNA testing All the DNA matches I have so far confirmed (in 18 months of fairly hard research into my DNA matches and having persuaded several cousins on that side to participate) have been on my paternal side, although not in Devon, the earliest shared ancestor back in the C17. They must be very robust genes. One cousin's DNA has a confirmed match in Devon on her paternal side in late C18. Susan Johnstone > -----Original Message----- > Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 10:29:16 +0100 > From: "Jean Hodges" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DEV] DNA testing > To: "'Michael Fisher'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Totally agree Mike, I did an autosomal DNA test with FTDNA a few > months ago and have so far had two successful and verifiable results > confirming my ancestry in Devon on two different branches both being on my paternal side. > One which confirms a connection back in the 1650s to a common ancestor > with a 40% compatibility only, but he like me had a wide ranging tree > and another to a one name study via a common ancestor in another name, > but all work in progress. I have worked from verifiable sources the > whole 16 years of my research and in the majority of cases have > numerous different sources to back up my closest ancestors. The answer > to finding matches in my humble opinion is to follow both female and > male lines and add in siblings and their spouses and children, etc and > their wider families for as far as it is feasible or you wish to do. > I shall use whatever sources, including DNA which help me 'nail' down my ancestors wherever they are. > > Jean Hodges > > > > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=devon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Had my DNA done in March 2016. There is a percentage missing and do not understand that. With all my research going back years, have only found family coming from Devon, Somerset and Hampshire then there is a French connection some 30 generations back. As far as autosomal testing, I am sure how to do that. My Ethnicity estimate is (100% European) 84% British with various trace regions including 4% Russian/Finish, 2% Scandinavian etc. Our ancestors got around. Edna ~ Ottawa

All the DNA matches I have so far confirmed (in 18 months of fairly hard research into my DNA matches and having persuaded several cousins on that side to participate) have been on my paternal side, although not in Devon, the earliest shared ancestor back in the C17. They must be very robust genes. One cousin's DNA has a confirmed match in Devon on her paternal side in late C18. Susan Johnstone > -----Original Message----- > Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 10:29:16 +0100 > From: "Jean Hodges" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DEV] DNA testing > To: "'Michael Fisher'" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Totally agree Mike, I did an autosomal DNA test with FTDNA a few months ago > and have so far had two successful and verifiable results confirming my > ancestry in Devon on two different branches both being on my paternal side. > One which confirms a connection back in the 1650s to a common ancestor with > a 40% compatibility only, but he like me had a wide ranging tree and another > to a one name study via a common ancestor in another name, but all work in > progress. I have worked from verifiable sources the whole 16 years of my > research and in the majority of cases have numerous different sources to > back up my closest ancestors. The answer to finding matches in my humble > opinion is to follow both female and male lines and add in siblings and > their spouses and children, etc and their wider families for as far as it is > feasible or you wish to do. I shall use whatever sources, including DNA > which help me 'nail' down my ancestors wherever they are. > > Jean Hodges > > > >

Hi Angela and all I have a yDNA test paternal - for me a waste of time no matches with the surname. I have a mtDNA maternal - waste of time for me no matches in a searchable timescale. I was about to give up on DNA testing when someone mention Autosomal DNA testing as per AncestryDNA, 23andme and Family Tree DNA Family Finder test. This tests all 23 chromosomes and finds matches with anyone in your test up to 4th/5th. This immediately started me find 4th and 5th cousins matches. These turn out to be descendants of people who had disappeared from my tree by emigration or descendants of those daughters who suddenly disappear from the census and you can't find a marriage or death for. It's great fun finding the paper trails to these matches, you do need a worldwide Ancestry of FMP sub to make the most of it. I now manage tests for myself, paternal 1st cousin, wife , her 96 year old father, 92 year mother and a friend who knows that the father on her birth certificate is not her biological father. If you are adopted there is a lot of help out there to find your biological parents. Mike Fisher in a damp Droitwich On 11/06/2016 10:30, ANGELA MARKS via wrote: > I would agree with this, it did occur to me when I took part in a DNA project that I came from a long line of dutiful wives! > My own experience with Y chromosome testing - for which, of course, my brother had to provide the sample, is that the results did indeed closely follow the 'paper trail' insofar as it was known. It was part of the Anthony Hoskins project organised among the known descendants of a chap who emigrated to America in 1650 from Dorset. I knew that my Devon Hoskins ancestors also came, in the late 16th century, from Dorset, where they were known to have settled by the reign of Henry V, although where they came from before that was a matter of conjecture. > My uncle, W G Hoskins had discounted a theory put forward that the family were connected to one known to have originated in Herefordshire, but the DNA showed strong evidence that this was indeed the case, that the family did descend from one or more Norman ancestors who had settled in the Welsh Marches, and that family traditions chime both with known migration patterns and with the DNA evidence. > Oddly enough, I proved to be more closely related to the American descendants of Anthony Hoskins than I was to the English Hoskins descended from those who remained in Dorset. > Of course, when you get back far enough, the surname becomes somewhat irrelevant, as before the general usage of surnames, several descendants of a common ancestor would have acquired different surnames anyway, regardless of their actual paternity. > > Angela in Exmouth >