PS: Let us not forget the ARP, Home Guard, Nurses, Doctors, Farm Girls, Wives, etc. who worked so bravely at home too. Edna - sunny Ottawa
Excellent. Thank you. I did find a note that he was in the Coldstream Guards, but drew a blank when I contacted their regiment records. However I hadn't found the census reference to Dartmouth. Two heads etc! Best wishes Graham in Silverton -----Original Message----- From: Joy Langdon via DEVON [mailto:devon@rootsweb.com] Sent: 19 October 2018 12:26 To: Devon@Rootsweb.com Cc: Joy Langdon Subject: [DEV] W H Dawe, Silverton On Ancestry's "UK Soldiers died in the Great War" collection William Henry Daw, birth place Silverton Devon, residence Dawlish. He was in the Coldstream Guards and Guards regiment records aren't held at the National Archives. I had to apply to the Grenadier Guards archivist for my grandfather's records. On the 1901 census there is a William H Dawe born Silverton c1892 living at Dartmouth with parents James and Edith Dawe. Joy _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
On Ancestry's "UK Soldiers died in the Great War" collection William Henry Daw, birth place Silverton Devon, residence Dawlish. He was in the Coldstream Guards and Guards regiment records aren't held at the National Archives. I had to apply to the Grenadier Guards archivist for my grandfather's records. On the 1901 census there is a William H Dawe born Silverton c1892 living at Dartmouth with parents James and Edith Dawe. Joy
I have a book published 1921 called "Soldiers Died in the Great War" - it is one of a series and the author is the War Office "By Authority" - no name! My book covers the Devonshire Regiment - there were 50 of these books, one for each regiment. If you send me the name of your mystery stoker, I can look him up and at least it will say how he died. I don't think I am breaching copyright... Ros Haywood ------ Original Message ------ From: "Jonathan Frayne" <jon.frayne@gmail.com> To: "devon@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com>; "sherleetooze@gmail.com" <sherleetooze@gmail.com> Cc: "Bob Halberstadt" <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Sent: 19/10/2018 08:38:12 Subject: [DEV] War memorials >Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war >memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended >and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. >This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if >there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The >reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot >trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know >why we memorialise him. > >Jon > >Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >From: Edna Marlow >Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 >To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com >Cc: Bob Halberstadt >Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One > >Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the >Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. > >Edna M - sunny Ottawa > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sher Leetooze >Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM >To: devon@rootsweb.com >Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One > >Edna and list: > >The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long >display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts >brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for >each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical >Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display >either >for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging >for info and photos > >Sher > > >On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: >> >> >> >>Let us remember all those who served: >> >>11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >> >>Edna - sunny Ottawa >> >>_______________________________________________ >>------------------------------------------ >>The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >>http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >>(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >>_______________________________________________ >>Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>Unsubscribe >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >>Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >>RootsWeb community > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community > > >_______________________________________________ >------------------------------------------ >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS >(http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community
Have you tried searching newspapers? Casualties with an association to a village are often mentioned. My grandmother's cousin was employed by the Duke of Bedford and he appears on both the Milton Abbot and the Woburn war memorials. In 1911 he is listed at Endsleigh which at that time was the Duke's fishing and hunting lodge so he may never have actually lived at Woburn. His brother had emigrated to Canada and served in the Canadian forces and he is also on the Milton Abbot war memorial. Joy ----Original message---- From : jon.frayne@gmail.com Date : 19/10/2018 - 08:38 (GMTST) To : devon@rootsweb.com, sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc : President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org Subject : [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10
In the case of our town in Norfolk , the 1920/22 deliberations of the Town Council were deposited in the Norfolk Record Office so we have no easy access to the decisions , assuming they were recorded . Locally its the women`s names which vex people . The CWGC doesn`t include either , so both have been a good research project . And the WW1 one is now properly on our street war memorial and church memorial , (she was WAAF but died a few days after the Armistice of influenza aged 23 ) but the other eludes us still . She is on the WW2 memorial but we still don`t know why , she died aged 24 of TB in Kelling Sanatorium in 1945. So Jon try the Record office for any deposits of local government deliberations from 1919 onward . And can you find your stoker in the 1911 census ? we have a chap who was born Rugby , widow living Chelmsford and I ignored him for many a long month until someone said he was living in Downham , my own road even , as a lodger in 1911 . So the landlady might well have been instrumental in insisting he was included . And our Brownies , Ist Downham group, have painted big stones white and added a scarlet poppy and the name of one of our 73 boys who died …..and scattered them around the town , its simple and effective and a taking point here .
You will find the transcription of the Roll of Honour that you refer to, which was compiled by volunteers from the Friends of Devon's Archives, on this website complete with details of the roll and how it was compiled: http://www.devonhonour.org.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: meg@taylor.it [mailto:meg@taylor.it] Sent: 19 October 2018 09:11 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: War memorials My understanding was that there is large Roll of Honour prepared for the fallen of Devon but that it was far from accurate and complete. A colleague in Holsworthy has been researching this and has found quite a number of men who should be on memorials but are missing and work is being done to address this but I am a bit short on detail. As regards accuracy, I know several examples of muddles on the memorials with the wrong brother being recorded as having died. Our memorial in Thornbury records both the living who returned and the dead, and managed to get some of that wrong, as did one in my old village of Diseworth in Leicestershire, which was also in a muddle. In the latter case we had a lot of boys, and they were only boys, on the memorial who had nothing much to do with the village but had been placed there from an Industrial School in Norfolk before the war to learn a trade as farm workers and so they are commemorated there rather than in the places they came from, often London. In some very sad cases they put their landladies down as their next of kin as they had nobody else. Could something like this explain your chap? I found the minutes of the committee that arranged the building of the Thornbury War Memorial in the local record office in Exeter, complete with the invoices from the stone masons and the bill for the lead letters. Always worth a look to see what is there. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> Sent: 19 October 2018 08:38 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Subject: [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
A committee was definitely formed here in Silverton, but I have failed to find any minutes from their meetings. Mistakes were made though: a Boer War veteran, a Major, came out of retirement at the age of 54, and was given an administrative role in Ireland, but was retired from this due to ill-health in 1916. He died in March 1917, and his inquest decided his death was due to a fall down the stairs at his home. He was included amongst the names on both village memorials; strange that he happened to be the son of a previous rector. A casualty was also omitted and his name was included a couple of years later after agreement at a parish council meeting. Also a name is included, but after many hours searching I have failed to find any connection with this casualty in Silverton, who he was or how and when he died. His recorded name is William H Dawe, but that is all that is known of him. Graham Parnell in Silverton -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne [mailto:jon.frayne@gmail.com] Sent: 19 October 2018 08:38 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
My understanding was that there is large Roll of Honour prepared for the fallen of Devon but that it was far from accurate and complete. A colleague in Holsworthy has been researching this and has found quite a number of men who should be on memorials but are missing and work is being done to address this but I am a bit short on detail. As regards accuracy, I know several examples of muddles on the memorials with the wrong brother being recorded as having died. Our memorial in Thornbury records both the living who returned and the dead, and managed to get some of that wrong, as did one in my old village of Diseworth in Leicestershire, which was also in a muddle. In the latter case we had a lot of boys, and they were only boys, on the memorial who had nothing much to do with the village but had been placed there from an Industrial School in Norfolk before the war to learn a trade as farm workers and so they are commemorated there rather than in the places they came from, often London. In some very sad cases they put their landladies down as their next of kin as they had nobody else. Could something like this explain your chap? I found the minutes of the committee that arranged the building of the Thornbury War Memorial in the local record office in Exeter, complete with the invoices from the stone masons and the bill for the lead letters. Always worth a look to see what is there. Meg Galley-Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> Sent: 19 October 2018 08:38 To: devon@rootsweb.com; sherleetooze@gmail.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt <President@goulbournhistoricalsociety.org> Subject: [DEV] War memorials Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Following on from the thread about the end of WW1, I think war memorials in Britain were set up in rather a hurry after the war ended and that local committees compiled the list of names to be included. This led to some mistakes being made of course. Does anyone know if there are any records retained anywhere about their deliberations? The reason I ask is there is a master stoker on our war memorial we cannot trace to a connection to the village and some of us would love to know why we memorialise him. Jon Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Edna Marlow Sent: 19 October 2018 03:28 To: sherleetooze@gmail.com; devon@rootsweb.com Cc: Bob Halberstadt Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Sher, good idea will pass it on to the Goulbourn Township Historical Society here in Ottawa. Edna M - sunny Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Sher Leetooze Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:23 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: End of WW One Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community
Great idea Elizabeth! here in Canada, if a community has a cenotaph there is usually a short ceremony on the 11th with the laying of wreaths. If your community doesn't do that - now is the year to get the tradition started. Sher On 10/18/2018 10:18 AM, Elizabeth Howard wrote: > And refresh your memories of their names by visiting your ancestral > village`s war memorial /roll of honour .. > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:35 PM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Let us remember all those who served: >> >> 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 >> >> Edna - sunny Ottawa >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
Edna and list: The local historical Society where Iive is putting on a month long display about the local lads who served in both wars with artifacts brought home by some of them, photos of each one and a short bio for each - nurses included. If anyone out there belongs to an Historical Society, or Genealogical Society - why not stage your own display either for Nov. 11 or for your group's next meeting. Well worth the digging for info and photos Sher On 10/18/2018 9:34 AM, Edna Marlow wrote: > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
I will be giving a talk on how the War affected my adopted town of Bracknell in Berkshire on the day after (12th November) The Bracknell Forest Society | | | | | | | | | | | The Bracknell Forest Society The Bracknell Forest Society website | | | On Thursday, 18 October 2018, 16:19:48 BST, Elizabeth Howard <elizghoward@gmail.com> wrote: And refresh your memories of their names by visiting your ancestral village`s war memorial /roll of honour .. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:35 PM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
And refresh your memories of their names by visiting your ancestral village`s war memorial /roll of honour .. On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:35 PM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > Let us remember all those who served: > > 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 > > Edna - sunny Ottawa > > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Let us remember all those who served: 11th hour of the 11th day of November 1918 Edna - sunny Ottawa
Hi Brian, I too have found a few and sending them to you are on a 'to do' list. (I hadn't thought, though, of supplying to the DHC so will now also do that). You say to check the DWP to see whether already listed, I assume you would like another ref. if 'better', e.g. one of 'to dos' is for a Chancery case with a full transcript where the DWP only shows a ref to an abstract (which I haven't seen, so I don't know how much the transcript adds). You also say 'when you come across a copy, transcript, abstract or extract'. The DWP contains many entries that are less than this - e.g. the many calendar entries. So would you also like references to wills, where there isn't so much as an extract? (Personally, I would hope so because I do find the calendar entries useful and could also find such references that others have found useful). I have several Chancery cases I am looking at where there are references but unfortunately without so much as an abstract or extract, let alone a transcript. Teresa On 15/10/2018 22:26, Brian Randell wrote: > Though the Devon Wills Project (DWP) has finished its massive trawl of all sorts of places looking for Will, Abstracts, etc., there undoubtedly will be quite a number that we have not spotted. > > Richard Grylls and I therefore encourage you - indeed everybody - when you come across a copy, transcript, abstract or extract of a pre-1857 Devon Will (or Admon or Inventory), in a “non-standard” source, to check whether it is already listed in the Devon Wills Project Database (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.genuki.org.uk_big_eng_DEV_DevonWillsProject_&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=_kHYb0dMtukKdTNCoURit9Z6fYN0hak3I3SjPWTU2FA&m=u-_4qg5OzmiTkm6wKJuL-latBWmblSKrUf9qbiH_dVQ&s=lDmjARGOsLADNfyZcYTXLegmWUl8q-XbEU5GIoHgEc4&e=, or the Findmypast version of DWP, and to let us have full details if it isn’t. > > Cheers > > Brian Randell
Hi Guy, Nancy: From: Guy Lawton <guylawton@gmail.com<mailto:guylawton@gmail.com>> Subject: [DEV] Re: Devon Wills mentioned in publications Date: 14 October 2018 at 15:41:36 BST To: devon@rootsweb.com<mailto:devon@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: devon@rootsweb.com<mailto:devon@rootsweb.com> Re Nancy Frey's comment, a now lost will may not only be found *attached* to a document such as a lease but be quoted in its entirety *within* a document. In such a case the testator's name is unlikely to appear in any calendar let alone in an index, so you will be very lucky to come across one except by chance. My example was the will of Peter Battishill, mercer of Exeter made in January 1719 (New Style), which was quoted in a deposition in Chancery Proceeding C11 388/13 at TNA. I provided Devon RO with a copy of my transcript of the will to which they gave an accession reference 4667Z add/Z 2 so that it does now appear in their calendar. In a similar fashion, in another legal dispute I also came across a quotation of an 16th century Devon Parish Register entry - the Register is now lost and of course at that time there were no Bishop's Transcripts! You never know your luck! Guy Lawton On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 at 22:45, Nancy Frey <ncanuck@gmail.com<mailto:ncanuck@gmail.com>> wrote: I have found several Wills attached to other documents online at the UK National Archives. Those Wills are not something that come up when you search a surname, but if you find a document like a lease or some other agreement, it could have someone's Will attached. Nancy Frey OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Though the Devon Wills Project (DWP) has finished its massive trawl of all sorts of places looking for Will, Abstracts, etc., there undoubtedly will be quite a number that we have not spotted. Richard Grylls and I therefore encourage you - indeed everybody - when you come across a copy, transcript, abstract or extract of a pre-1857 Devon Will (or Admon or Inventory), in a “non-standard” source, to check whether it is already listed in the Devon Wills Project Database (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.genuki.org.uk_big_eng_DEV_DevonWillsProject_&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=_kHYb0dMtukKdTNCoURit9Z6fYN0hak3I3SjPWTU2FA&m=u-_4qg5OzmiTkm6wKJuL-latBWmblSKrUf9qbiH_dVQ&s=lDmjARGOsLADNfyZcYTXLegmWUl8q-XbEU5GIoHgEc4&e=, or the Findmypast version of DWP, and to let us have full details if it isn’t. Cheers Brian Randell — School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk<mailto:Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk> PHONE = +44 191 208 7923 URL = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ncl.ac.uk_computing_people_profile_brianrandell.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=_kHYb0dMtukKdTNCoURit9Z6fYN0hak3I3SjPWTU2FA&m=u-_4qg5OzmiTkm6wKJuL-latBWmblSKrUf9qbiH_dVQ&s=EA-0oCGwVwQOLGeRcYoYhlKnwxR1RL8KHhB7yZKAlmI&e=
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 11:32, Jane Lucas via DEVON <devon@rootsweb.com> wrote: > .. wish I’d done Latin at school, at least I’d have some grammar. Not sure it would have helped. I think that "Church Latin", or whatever it's called, was a long step from classical Latin. Indeed, I think that much of it was actually Latin vocabulary superimposed on sentences sort-of structured in English. But no doubt using some Latin cases just to confuse... Adrian
Hi John Thanks, yes.. bit annoying, but I’m really only just starting to pick up some legal Latin. Hopefully with experience I’ll be more familiar with these abbreviations and their variations. As I was saying to Susan, I’m tying to learn to read old english documents as well as Latin and there just isn’t enough time in the day to do both .. wish I’d done Latin at school, at least I’d have some grammar. Jane > On 15 Oct 2018, at 11:09, Jonathan Frayne <jon.frayne@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think you’ll find this is one of those annoying abbreviations in Latin. I think It should be ‘magistro’, the singular ablative of magister, or ‘by master’ William,