Good Morning, I use Google as my search engine and came across the Grieshaber site upon searching the Derendinger name. I printed out the site and at the top of the first page is this: This is Google's text-only Cache of http://t-online.de/home/Horst.Grieshaber/ahn-wfg.htm as retrieved on May 23, 2005 10:17:45. GMT. Google's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web. The page may have changed since that time. Click here for the current page without highlighting. Click here for the full cached page with images included. Originally, when I came to the site, it was the t-online (in German) with no indication of genealogy information. I did click the cached page and then the Grieshaber data came up. Sure hope you find it, lots of information (eleven pages of names and dates)! Chao - Maurine