Maurine, I have never ordered either but they are books(?). I would asume that they would be of print and the only way they would not be readable would be if the filming had been bad. When you receive the films and if they are illegible, make some waves. Talk to the head Volunteer at your LDS library, or, at least, let the one Volunteer with the most ability to continue those waves for you do just that for you. I have found that a "Best Copy Available" film may be obtained if the original film is that bad. The bad film will be checked, confirmed, sent back to SLC and you will receive a new film, that 'Best Copy Available" and usually that new copy is many times better for reading than the original. djweber [email protected]