DJ, In the recent exchange of messages re emigration database, reference was made to 'legal' and 'illegal' emigration - some law or code apparently required 'permission' to emigrate. Permission from whom? Why did they need permission? Was it expensive to get permission? Was the regulation enforced and, if so, by whom? I'm confident that many listers have answers to these questions; regretfully, I do not - but I sure would like to learn more about this matter. Dick
Oh Dick I think my english is not good enough to tell you about this things..but I try to do. Yes. The people needed a permission to emigrate. A permission from the "state". They only get the permission when they had no money to give to other people..so their names had to stand in newspapers because of that. But I saw emigration-papers from people that have been rich. And they did not get the permission because of that the state was saying, that this are people, needed in Baden. It was a poor time, and the very very poor did become the permission. They did get money from State, when they did go, but they had no more chance to come back to Germany. It was not allowed for them. And then was the time after the 48/49 revolution. The revolutioners did go without permission, because they came into prison in Baden. I could write this better for you in German.. maybe there is somebody who is able to translate ist? I know a lot about this things. But I think, there are many others in this list, that know this all, too. Liebe Grüsse Gabi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Fischbach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: [Ortenau] Emigration > DJ, > > In the recent exchange of messages re emigration database, reference was > made to 'legal' and 'illegal' emigration - some law or code apparently > required 'permission' to emigrate. Permission from whom? Why did they > need permission? Was it expensive to get permission? Was the regulation > enforced and, if so, by whom? > > I'm confident that many listers have answers to these questions; > regretfully, I do not - but I sure would like to learn more about this > matter. > > Dick > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > If you are new to this Ortenau List, please check the Archives to see if > any messages have been posted about your surname or your town. > < http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/DEU-BAD-ORTENAU.html >. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de
Dick, once I researched some emigration files from Niederschopfheim. I believe the emigration request of your ancestors is part of a thick file which contains the request of some emigrants. This file is not sorted and I believe it contains at least 2 different parts for your ancestors. A brother of one of my ancestors received the permission to emigrate but after he sold his property he had not enough money to pay the tickets for his whole family. So he decided to emigrate with one son secretly. After some years they send the money to pay the tickets for the other children. - Wendelin On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:21:14 -0700 "Dick Fischbach" <[email protected]> wrote: > DJ, > > In the recent exchange of messages re emigration database, reference > was made to 'legal' and 'illegal' emigration - some law or code > apparently required 'permission' to emigrate. Permission from whom? > Why did they need permission? Was it expensive to get permission? > Was the regulation enforced and, if so, by whom? > > I'm confident that many listers have answers to these questions; > regretfully, I do not - but I sure would like to learn more about this > matter. > > Dick