Chuck, And this time I will watch my fingers as they type your name. I know what my mind tells them to do but those fingers have a way of doing their own thing when I type. Again, there are a number of native Germans on this List who could confirm "country" location for you of a specific Baden or Wuerttemberg town....should you feel, at a later time, that you need that confirmation. As you had asked only about country and I attempted to answer as only about country, I should add one qualification for you when it comes to the LDS listing for any town. Do NOT accept the Kreis, the Amt, the BA, any of those middle-identifications as valid for your search. They existed for your town(s) at one specific time in history while your town(s) of search existed for centuries. The Kreis, the Amt, the BA, the whatever listed by the LDS for any of your searched for towns would NOT have been correct for 1650, for 1750, for 1850 and probably not for 1950. That identification coincides with the year of the Meyer's identification and its use is one of the major errors in most personal genealogical databases. And, when you reach the years before Napoleon, there also could be major changes in "country" for any of your towns. While Wuerttemberg was fairly well formed in area, neither it nor Baden was a complete country, per se, and a true map ot the area would show a patch-work quilt of different "country" ownerships of land. djweber [email protected] ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Map for 1800-1880 > Thanks for the info. Since the time frames and dates you provided will > answer most of my questions. > > Thanks again > Chuck Schober > ----Melissa, Texas >