I too, wish to thank Wendelin and djweber as well for all the extremely helpful information they have given us. Because of their kindness I was able to trace my Grandfather's (Michael Gaiser) family to Ottenhoefen. Someone on the list gave me the email address for Freiburg Ancestry and they snail mailed me info about his parents as well as D of B and D of D on all his siblings. The kindness shown here is truly extraordinary and I wish to thank everyone involved. Toni Walier McCarthy