Greetings, Today about three hours were spent trying to figure out my Stocker surname. After getting extremely grouchy and a headache I decided to ask for help. Johann Baptist Stocker was born in Ichenheim. The Stocker kinship page starts with #3614, Nicolaus Stocker. Johann Baptist Stocker is #3616. Do the kinship books start with the father first then succeeding numbers represent the sons or daughters? Johann Baptist Stocker is also listed in the Dundeheim book as #1758. The previous number, 1757, has Georg Stocker as his father a Taglöhner in Dundeheim. This is the reason for my dilemma. Thank you! Maurine

Maurine, Normally in an Ortssippenbuch a child is listed with his parents and if the child married an addition number is associated with him at that point.....something like a See this other number for the child's spouse and family....a referral to another number in that same Ortssippenbuch. If you have your individual with his parents in one town but he married and moved to another town, there probably would be no reference, no see another number in this first Ortssippenbuch. He did not live in that town when he was in his majority. Sometimes there is an indication that there was a move to another town; it all depends on if the compiler had learned that information. His family of wife and children would be listed only in that second book. A variance might be if he had more than one wife, living with the first wife in town A and then with the second wife in Town B. The compiler of the book for Town A knows his town and knows some details of those who moved from his town but his job was not to compile information on every town, only on his Town A. The numbers, in order, mean only a listing determined by the compiler of the book. There is no indication, normally, to family, to age, to order, only by surname. I offer the question if you have TWO Johann Baptist Stocker listed in these two books? You can confirm by looking at the details for his parents, finding him by birth date and checking the See number offered for him. In your Ichenheim book was there a See number for Johann Baptist Stocker at another Stocker listing, that of his father....again, do you have two different Johann Baptist Stocker listings at two towns. djweber [email protected] And, if I'm not making sense, let's continue off-list and I'll try to figure out a better answer for you. ---------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurine LeBlanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [Ortenau] Ortissippenbuch question > Greetings, > > Today about three hours were spent trying to figure out my Stocker > surname. > After getting extremely grouchy and a headache I decided to ask for help. > > Johann Baptist Stocker was born in Ichenheim. The Stocker kinship page > starts with #3614, Nicolaus Stocker. Johann Baptist Stocker is #3616. Do > the kinship books start with the father first then succeeding numbers > represent the sons or daughters? > > Johann Baptist Stocker is also listed in the Dundeheim book as #1758. The > previous number, 1757, has Georg Stocker as his father a Taglöhner in > Dundeheim. This is the reason for my dilemma. > > Thank you! > > Maurine > >