Wendelin, You informed me that Karolina Schwab was born in Rhinau. Is this in the Ortenau area? I typed Ignatz Schwab in the IGI file and found two. It indicated that both were born in Busenbach, Karlsruhe in the years of 1793 and 1792, which date wise would be close. The question - is Busenbach, Karlsruhe in the Ortenau area and close to Rhinau? Sorry for my lack of knowledge of your country. Thank you, again. Maurine