DJ, In answer to your following questions: Do you have the marriage record of Jonas Goss and Margaretha Bluemberger? ***** No Is this too early for the Windschlaeg records? Are these the names as written in the Church Register? ***** Yes Do you have all their children's baptismal records? ***** None for Jonas and Margaretha as even their son, Johannes was apparently born in "Weyhldorf" - and as yet I have not located that town. Are the parents listed as Jonas and Margaretha in each instance? ***** Actually, now that I've rechecked what I have here at home, in the marriage record for Johannes Fischer and Anna Maria Goss, only the father is mentioned as Jonas "Gossen". That is the only time I saw the "en" ending to that name. But then I found a baptismal record for Anna Maria on 14 Mar 1705, and that is where I got the mother's name of Bluemberger. I believe the father was listed as Jonas Gos. Now keep in mind that Johannes Fischer and Anna Maria Goss had nine children, born between Jan 1727 and Nov 1745. With each baptismal record (in chart form for most), those same parents were listed. The only variant might have been between Gos and Goss. Jonas Goss and Margaretha Bluemberger would have been the maternal grandparents for these 9 children. It seems like I made a note one time of one or two siblings for Anna Maria with the same parents names, but right now I can not locate that note. But I have MANY notes for this town and I just reviewed some of the births, marriages and deaths during that earlier period and there are a few records I find interestingly suspicious that lead into your next two questions. Have you found any other instances of a Bueller/Büller/Bühler family in Windschlaeg? **** Yes, to follow .... Have you found any hint of a connection between Bueller and Bluemberger? ***** POSSIBLY! A marriage for Joannes Bueler and Anna Margaretha Bluemberger on 7 Mar 1707, and then a death record on 29 Nov 1728 for a Margaretha Bueler, born Bluemberger, wife of Joannis Bueler; and then just shortly after on 7 Feb 1729 a marriage of widower Joannes Bueler to Maria Elisabetha Haiz, d/o Nicoli Haiz from Ebersweier. But what I find confusing is that there is also a death record for a Joannes Goss on 21 Nov 1714, so I'm not sure if that is the same person as Jonas Gos/Goss/Gossen. Wendelin's page on Windschlaeg does identify Böhle as a 1700 time-period surname in the town....connection? **** Not sure, as Bueller/Bueler was pretty clearly written that way back in the early 1700 records, and I do not have any notes for Böhle that far back, but there is a Conrad Böhle, born in 1808, as son of Martin Böhle, who I have listed as marrying a Petronilla Fischer in 1838. So maybe when I take that Böhle back further, I might find the name slowly transfigures from one to the other. I do find both Boehle and Buehler in Ste. Genevieve tombstone records, so I'm thinking that both versions did exist. Do you believe you have found all the children of Joannes Fischer and Anna Maria Goss? **** Yes, in the several times I've combed through the records. Have you double checked the death register for shortly after the last-found child was born to see if any woman by anything close to a similar name to Anna Maria Goss/Gose is recorded? **** At this point, I can't say I have as I don't have ongoing notes for the death records during that period. But I do believe I covered the period between 1745 when the youngest child, Catherine Fischer, was born to 1751 when Joannes Fischer died and Anna Maria Bueller was listed as the wife. I will go back and double check again for any possible similarities. Now that last suggestion you had of looking for an Anna Maria Bueller or an Anna Maria Goss as w/o Joannes Fischer listed as Godmother in any baptismal records, starting in 1761 and working back is most interesting, and I certainly will do that! Unfortunately, there was only two of the nine children that had marriages in Windschläg. One was for Joannes Martin, with the Bueller name, and the other for Francis Anthony, with the Goss name. I need to comb through the marriage records again as I did find a death record for another daughter, who was then married to Georgi Eggs, but I have not yet searched for a marriage record for her as I've just started on the spouses' "non-Fischer" surnames. But I will certainly watch for any mention of a Bueller. There are four other males from these nine children that I can't find either marriage or death record for, so they might have moved. One was another Joannes, but born in 1735 - too young to have died in 1751 as husband of A.M. Bueller. A big THANK YOU!, DJ, for giving this issue so much thought. Carol