Hi Carol, If you look out your window and see a red glow in the sky you'll know that it's my red face burning with embarrassment. In trying to 'clean' the ancestor file on my computer I accidently deleted an entire generation of Fischbachs. And the most irritating part was the fact that I hadn't backed up the info. Obviously the 1813 marriage date was completely erroneous! I'm going to have to rebuild my database and I'd certainly appreciate your help by furnishing whatever details you may have on the Jakob Fischbach that married Magdalena Burckle on February 4, 1805, as mentioned in your message. Thanks in advance. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Rogers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [Ortenau] Ursula Heitz > Hello Dick,! > > I'd like to help you out since there are copies of all the > Niederschopfheim > films here at the local FHC, but I'm having a hard time finding the > marriage > you described by the names you gave. There was a Martin Fischbach that > married in 1813 to Theresia someone (I'd have to study over the film more > to > get the correct four letter name for that one), and a Jakob Fischbach that > married a Magdalena Bürckle on 4 Feb 1805, but not a Jakob in 1813 for the > filmed Catholic church records I have. Without finding that marriage, I > went no further to hunt for a birth as I was using 1813 as a basis to > count > back roughly at least 20 years in finding a baptismal record for Ursula > Heitz. Besides, with all the Heitz in the area, it is good to have the > parents' names in the marriage record to confirm the same in a baptismal > record - making sure to have the correct Ursula Heitz. Do you think the > marriage took place somewhere else? > > Perhaps another Lister might have the solution. My line of Heitz were > from > Ebersweier, but a well-known researcher has the Ebersweier Heitz mapped > out > on his web site and I didn't see Ursula there either. > > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Fischbach [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 12:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Ortenau] Ursula Heitz > > > I'm attempting to fill in holes the Fischbach genealogy tree. Does any > one > on this list have information on the birth and death dates for Ursula > Heitz > (who married Jakob Fischbach in 1813 in Neiderschopfheim, Baden). > > Dick > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > List your surnames at the Ortenau Search web site > < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search/ >. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > If you are new to this Ortenau List, please check the Archives to see if > any messages have been posted about your surname or your town. > < http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/DEU-BAD-ORTENAU.html >. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello Dick, Well, your face might be glowing, but I appreciate your honesty. I'll see what I can find, but it won't be for at least several days as I've got some films going back to Salt Lake this Saturday and next Saturday and I want to take a last minute peek at some of those things while I still have a chance. One question, though .... how sure are you that the marriage I found in 1805 is the one you're looking for? Right now I'm not too sure how common Fischbachs are in Niederschopfheim. Is it Ursula Heitz or Jacob Fischbach that you are searching for? Your initial message sounded like Ursula Heitz was the main look-up. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Dick Fischbach [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Ursula Heitz Hi Carol, If you look out your window and see a red glow in the sky you'll know that it's my red face burning with embarrassment. In trying to 'clean' the ancestor file on my computer I accidently deleted an entire generation of Fischbachs. And the most irritating part was the fact that I hadn't backed up the info. Obviously the 1813 marriage date was completely erroneous! I'm going to have to rebuild my database and I'd certainly appreciate your help by furnishing whatever details you may have on the Jakob Fischbach that married Magdalena Burckle on February 4, 1805, as mentioned in your message. Thanks in advance. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Rogers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [Ortenau] Ursula Heitz > Hello Dick,! > > I'd like to help you out since there are copies of all the > Niederschopfheim > films here at the local FHC, but I'm having a hard time finding the > marriage > you described by the names you gave. There was a Martin Fischbach that > married in 1813 to Theresia someone (I'd have to study over the film more > to > get the correct four letter name for that one), and a Jakob Fischbach that > married a Magdalena Bürckle on 4 Feb 1805, but not a Jakob in 1813 for the > filmed Catholic church records I have. Without finding that marriage, I > went no further to hunt for a birth as I was using 1813 as a basis to > count > back roughly at least 20 years in finding a baptismal record for Ursula > Heitz. Besides, with all the Heitz in the area, it is good to have the > parents' names in the marriage record to confirm the same in a baptismal > record - making sure to have the correct Ursula Heitz. Do you think the > marriage took place somewhere else? > > Perhaps another Lister might have the solution. My line of Heitz were > from > Ebersweier, but a well-known researcher has the Ebersweier Heitz mapped > out > on his web site and I didn't see Ursula there either. > > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Fischbach [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 12:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Ortenau] Ursula Heitz > > > I'm attempting to fill in holes the Fischbach genealogy tree. Does any > one > on this list have information on the birth and death dates for Ursula > Heitz > (who married Jakob Fischbach in 1813 in Neiderschopfheim, Baden). > > Dick > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > List your surnames at the Ortenau Search web site > < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search/ >. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > If you are new to this Ortenau List, please check the Archives to see if > any messages have been posted about your surname or your town. > < http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/DEU-BAD-ORTENAU.html >. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== A list of Historic and Current towns of the Ortenau can be found at < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de >. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx