Dear fellow genealogists, may I ask again for your help? Is there anybody who has the Ortssippenbuch of Altenheim? If yes, I would be thankful if you could have a look at a a marriage between Johann Georg Marx and Ursula Bungert/Bonnert, not long before 1670. Children of the couple appear in Zell/Biberach after 1670 - but no marriage and no birth entries of the couple here. Thank you very much Kurt (Erlemann) Wuppertal

Hello Kurt, > Is there anybody who has the Ortssippenbuch of Altenheim? If yes, I > would be thankful if you could have a look at a a marriage between > Johann Georg Marx and Ursula Bungert/Bonnert, not long before 1670. > Children of the couple appear in Zell/Biberach after 1670 - but no > marriage and no birth entries of the couple here. ich habe kein OSB von Altenheim aber die Stadtbücherei in Offenburg. Falls niemand anderer schneller ist, kann ich eventuell in der nächsten Woche nach diesen Namen schauen. If nobody is able to offer this lookup I can do it next week. - Wendelin

Hello Kurt, > Is there anybody who has the Ortssippenbuch of Altenheim? If yes, I > would be thankful if you could have a look at a a marriage between > Johann Georg Marx and Ursula Bungert/Bonnert, not long before 1670. > Children of the couple appear in Zell/Biberach after 1670 - but no > marriage and no birth entries of the couple here. yes Marx and Bonnert are names from Altenheim at that time. But Altenheim was a Protestant town and Zell and Biberach were Catholic towns. I didn't find such a marriage in the Ortssippenbuch of Altenheim. The only Ursula Bonnert who lived there at that time died in the age of 20 years in 1669. If they lived in Altenheim and were Catholics they married perhaps in a nearby town like Dundenheim. BTW: the only other town Altenheim is located in Alsace near Zabern/Saverne. - Wendelin

Kurt and Wendelin, I checked my OSB Dundenheim but did not find any reference to this marriage. The only surname close to Bungert/Bonnert in the index is Bohnert and that is referenced only once. That is a reference in family no. 1585 to a Magdalena Bohnert who was born in Welschensteinach on 30 March 1909. There are several references to the Marx surname. Most of these are Evangelical families from Altenheim. But again there is no reference to this marriage. Wendelin - I understood that Dundenheim was a "mixed" village. There is both an Evangelical and a Catholic church there. And the OSB references both traditions. Am I mistaken? Jim Weller --- Wendelin Irslinger <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Kurt, > > > Is there anybody who has the Ortssippenbuch of > Altenheim? If yes, I > > would be thankful if you could have a look at a a > marriage between > > Johann Georg Marx and Ursula Bungert/Bonnert, not > long before 1670. > > Children of the couple appear in Zell/Biberach > after 1670 - but no > > marriage and no birth entries of the couple here. > yes Marx and Bonnert are names from Altenheim at > that time. But Altenheim was > a Protestant town and Zell and Biberach were > Catholic towns. > > I didn't find such a marriage in the Ortssippenbuch > of Altenheim. The only > Ursula Bonnert who lived there at that time died in > the age of 20 years in > 1669. > > If they lived in Altenheim and were Catholics they > married perhaps in a nearby > town like Dundenheim. > > > BTW: the only other town Altenheim is located in > Alsace near Zabern/Saverne. > > - Wendelin > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > A list of Historic and Current towns of the Ortenau > can be found at > < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de >. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello Jim and Wendelin, I checked my OSB Dundenheim but did not find any reference to this marriage. The only surname close to Bungert/Bonnert in the index is Bohnert and that is referenced only once. That is a reference in family no. 1585 to a Magdalena Bohnert who was born in Welschensteinach on 30 March 1909. There are several references to the Marx surname. Most of these are Evangelical families from Altenheim. But again there is no reference to this marriage. Wendelin - I understood that Dundenheim was a "mixed" village. There is both an Evangelical and a Catholic church there. And the OSB references both traditions. Am I mistaken? Thanks a lot to you both! May I ask whether there is a Johann Georg Marx in Altenheim who could fit to my ancestor - born ca. 1640 - 1650? Maybe the marriage to Mrs. Bungert took place in a different village... Best wishes Kurt Erlemann