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    1. Schaub research
    2. Dan Baltz
    3. Hello, I am looking for one last part of my family history, Surname SCHAUB. I am looking for a Maria Antonia Schaub from Baden and I believe the Ortenau area. She was born June 13, 1827 and Emigrated via Le Havre aboard the "Amelia" to America in 1851. She settled first for a short time in Pennsylvania where she married a George Weik and had one son, George. She was widowed and later moved to Perryville, Mo. where she was married to Joseph Schwarz of Zusenhofen, Baden. If you are searching your villages and happen upon this lady, please let me know. I can go no further until I find the exact village of her birth. She is not on either of the Baden emigrations listings on file at the LDS libraries. Thanks, Carolyn

    04/28/2005 02:27:20
    1. Re: [Ortenau] Schaub research
    2. djweber
    3. Carolyn, I somewhat goofed on my prior response to you; I hit reply rather than reply all and my suggestions about the Search availabilities at the companion pages where the surname Schaub is listed in a number of locations did not go through the List. Following on your original question and your later response to me, I know you have identified your Maria Antonia Schaub within a Germans to America Manifest in 1861 for the ship Amelia from LeHavre. First thought.....The booked Germans to America series has many transcription errors and flaws. Some of these errors are identified at on-line sources such as Michael Palmer's web site and the University site for Prof. Dr. Antonius Holtmann. Perhaps the only more errored efforts are the CDRoms version of the Germans to America series. You also indicated that you had attempted to verify the information from the Ancestry records. I would agree that Ancestry had corrected some of the spelling errors of the books but I still would never use any of these sources as my final search effort. Have you also ordered a copy of the Manifest from the National Archives? Here the problem is that NARA rarely offers the full Manifest unless you specifically request a copy of each page (and even then they may send only the page you need). The full Manifest might be helpful as while single woman did cross the Atlantic by themselves, usually they accompanied others and you might obtain additional home town surnames for your search. It would be rarer than rare for the ship Manifest to offer you a town of origin (although some Manifests were that exact) but I would certainly not trust the various transcriptions as being correct in identifying Baden as the origin. I would want to see the Manifest. Also, you have two marriages for her in the United States. If the Churches had records which weren't destroyed in some later fire, Churches of that era were very careful in identifying details such as the home towns of the marriage partners. Have you searched for records of those two Churches? Death records, particularly of the first husband, perhaps the second husband and, of course, of the individual might be keys for you. Many county records, cemeteries files and newspaper articles (rarely obituaries at that time) identified birth towns. Any possibility there for you? I agree with you that the LeHavre embarkation Manifests should be worthless to attempt to find. At different times, there have been identifications of what information might still be available from sources at Rouen and at LeHavre. One source indicated that the LDS had 237 rolls of microfilms covering LeHavre actions but then added that individuals on Manifests might be between only 5% and 1% of the total information as most of the information pertained to the ships and their cargo as Maritime business records. djweber [email protected]

    04/28/2005 05:32:43