Hello Karen, maybe Christian Männle and his wife were not born in the parish Nussbach but in a neighboring town. It's possible that his emigration record has any information when and where they were born. No, I do not belive the people below him were als Männle at least not all, I believe their given names are Jewish names: Herz, Hanchen, Salomon. - Wendelin On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:57:34 -0800 Karen Querna <Karen@qualitypumps.com> wrote: > Dear Wendelin, > Christain Mannle - my mystery man, I have searched the Hertzal > Nussbach registers for him with no luck. You mentioned in one of the > digests his name was in the book in 1853. Below is from the ship > manifest of the Adelaide Metcalf from March 28, 1855. Marianne was > his wife. I believe that the people below him were also Mannle and > may of been the members listed with him on the auswanderer index. I > been able to trace Christian in America, but not the others below. In > the 1860, 1870 and 1880 census. With some of the first names one > would of thought this would be easy. Any thoughts of other versions > of first names? Or where did they go. Christian and Marianne went to > Boston. thank you > Karenq > > > 18 Walter Marianne 26 F Farmer Bade United > States 19* Marmle Christian 32 M Farmer Bade > United States 20 Mela Herz 52 M Farmer > Bade United States 21 Mela Hanchen 38 F > Farmer Bade United States 22 Mela Hanchen 10 > F Farmer Bade United States 23 Mela Salomon > 8 M Farmer Bade United States 24 Mela > Bertha 8 F Farmer Bade United States 25 > Mela Regina 7 F Farmer Bade United States > 26 Mela Berthold 6 M Farmer Bade United > States 27 Mela Jetta 5 F Farmer Bade > United States 28 Mela Ferdinand 6m M Farmer > Bade United States > >

My wife's side of the tree has family members named Salomon and are not Jewish, but Lutheran. They are also Swedish though. I do not necessarily support the idea of setting presumptions of religious affiliation solely upon names. But I also question the association of the Melas as Mannles, because of the age of the elder Mennle. At 52, I would have suspected him to be the head of the household. That is not to say it never happened like this, but generally when I see a family with a younger male as the apparent head of the family, the elder male was the father-in-law. Brian On Sat, February 16, 2008 2:20 pm, Wendelin Irslinger wrote: > Hello Karen, > > maybe Christian Männle and his wife were not born in the parish Nussbach > but in a neighboring town. It's possible that his emigration > record has any information when and where they were born. > > No, I do not belive the people below him were als Männle at least not > all, I believe their given names are Jewish names: Herz, Hanchen, > Salomon. > > - Wendelin > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:57:34 -0800 > Karen Querna <Karen@qualitypumps.com> wrote: > >> Dear Wendelin, >> Christain Mannle - my mystery man, I have searched the Hertzal >> Nussbach registers for him with no luck. You mentioned in one of the >> digests his name was in the book in 1853. Below is from the ship >> manifest of the Adelaide Metcalf from March 28, 1855. Marianne was >> his wife. I believe that the people below him were also Mannle and >> may of been the members listed with him on the auswanderer index. I >> been able to trace Christian in America, but not the others below. In >> the 1860, 1870 and 1880 census. With some of the first names one >> would of thought this would be easy. Any thoughts of other versions >> of first names? Or where did they go. Christian and Marianne went to >> Boston. thank you >> Karenq >> >> >> 18 Walter Marianne 26 F Farmer Bade United >> States 19* Marmle Christian 32 M Farmer Bade >> United States 20 Mela Herz 52 M Farmer >> Bade United States 21 Mela Hanchen 38 F >> Farmer Bade United States 22 Mela Hanchen 10 >> F Farmer Bade United States 23 Mela Salomon >> 8 M Farmer Bade United States 24 Mela >> Bertha 8 F Farmer Bade United States 25 >> Mela Regina 7 F Farmer Bade United States >> 26 Mela Berthold 6 M Farmer Bade United >> States 27 Mela Jetta 5 F Farmer Bade >> United States 28 Mela Ferdinand 6m M Farmer >> Bade United States >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Karen, you are maybe interested to know the text from the book. page 70: Die neunköpfige Familie Christian Männle, die ebenfalls durch Zwangsvollstreckung ihr Vermögen verloren hatte, wurde mit Gemeindeunterstützung 1853 abgeschoben. Die gesamte Überfahrt kostete mit Proviant 600 Gulden, die Gemeinde mußte 350 Gulden dazulegen. - Wendelin