Rose, On the Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index is a Joseph Zink born 30 Dec 1834, born Obertalheim, applied Jan 1853, which might be connected to the ship record you found, but I don't believe this one is yours. I went back to your original request for more information. Did I miss something? Was 1853 the year listed on U.S. census as your Joseph Zink emigrating? Or did you just find a ship date with age that seemed to match your Joseph's birthdate? If I have the right Joseph Zink from info you gave, in 1910 and 1920 census Joseph was listed emigrating in 1846, then in 1900 was listed emigrating in 1844. I also noticed that there were other Zink's in JoDavies County, Illinois. In 1900 census, Benjamin and Joseph were also listed as emigrating in 1846. Taking the census back, found John Zink in 1850 census in JoDavies County, living with another family by a different name. The other Zinks in 1850 must have the names mispelled or living elsewhere; but in 1860, your Joseph was already married with no children (1900 census listed them married for 40yrs), so they probably married between 1859-1860. Then found in 1860 a Zink family in the same county: David 61, Agnes 57, John 26, Besell 18, Benjamin 15 (all these born in Baden), but then an 11 yr old born in Illinois (name mispelled, but possibly Louisa) - indicating this family emigrated between 1845-1849. My guess is that Joseph might have been listed with this family if he had not already married. So, with at least three of these people being listed as emigrating in 1846, that is the year you might search for ship records (give or take a year as you don't know if they left Germany or arrived in the U.S. that year). Now I believe they might have entered the U.S. through New Orleans and ship records got destroyed as I tried finding them without success. The reason why I say New Orleans is because I just found this, after a struggling search: 1850 Galena, "Jo Daviess", Illinois "SIENK" David - 52 - Germany Augusta - 45 - Germany [aka Agnes] John - 18 - Germany Mary - 13 - Germany Basil - 11 - Germany Bernard - 7 - Germany [aka Benjamin] Frank - 3 - Kentucky Louisa - 1 - Illinois Joseph - 15 - Germany Some names are a little different, and ages a little off, but I believe this was the same family. I'd suggest you do a search for churches in Galena or close by that were around in 1850, and of the religion you believe them to have practiced. Then see if you can find a baptismal record for Louisa born about 1849. It might indicate where the parents were from and even give a town. If not, try and find any of the marriage records. Follow the census for the towns they were in. If the towns were small, they might have obituaries that list the exact place they were from in Germany - which I'm presuming that is one of the reasons you wanted to find a ship record on Joseph. Carol -----Original Message----- From: deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Wendelin Irslinger Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:37 PM To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com Cc: peterandrose@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Joseph Zink Hello Rose, the official emigration database has 3 Josef Zink who emigrated (or asked for permission in that year) in 1852, all from Lauf, one was 46 years old and son of Adam Zink, another one was born on 29 May 1863 (which is another error in the database, perhaps it's 1836) and son of Ignaz Zink, no additional data for the third. Maybe our mailinglist has still a member who owns the kinship book of Lauf and can look for these men. The database has also 3 Joseph/Josef Zink who emigrated in 1854 (or asked for permission in that year), one from Großweier who was born 14 Sep 1838, the second from Sasbachwalden (no year of birth, he was son of Andreas Zink), the third from Achern (35 years of age). The following emigration database has one Joseph Zink, age 18, who emigrated in 1853. http://www.dad-recherche.de/hmb/search_engl.asp?Nachname=zink&Vorname=joseph &Geschlecht=%25&Datum=&Datum2=&Datum3= I don't know if the original record shows the origin of this man. Maybe it's the same which you have found. - Wendelin On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:18:35 -0700 Peter Goutbeck <> wrote: > Looking for birthplace of Joseph Zink. Can anyone help? Would be > very grateful. > > What I know, Joseph Zink was born 16 March 1835, (gravestone info) > and died 14 oct 1921 in Pleasant Valley, JoDavies Co. Illinois. > Pleasant Valley is a township near Stockton, Illinois and near > Galena, Illinois. He married to Barbara Elfline/Elfien . Have not > found the day of marriage yet. They had five children . A son John > married into the Harter line originating from Oensbach. It is the > great grandfather of Romana Wehinger, nee Harter. > > In NY Passenger list 1820 - 1957 a Joseph Zink, landed in New York > 23 April 1853, 18 years old, on the ship "Orlando" Do not know if > this is the right person. > The age is right. > Rose Weber-Goutbeck ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message