Carol: I am sure that there were other places in U.S. but I know for sure that quite a few Urloffeners settled in St. Charles, MO - Jockersts included. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Rogers" <homealot@earthlink.net> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Sauer and/or Widemer > Thanks, Dan. I appreciate you sending a "cc" to the Urloffen list. As > for > St. Charles County, I've heard that there were "Offenburg" area towns that > had emigrants moving there, and the person who told me might even be > reading > this as a Lister! However, I've never gone that route as my German > ancestors all immigrated straight to Ste. Genevieve County. Where did the > Urloffen Jockerst/Joggerst/Jokerst emigrants settle? As far back as you > can > take them in records, are they still in Urloffen or did they have origins > in > other towns? > > I've done and am still in the process of studying that/those surname(s): > > 1)in Bohlsbach where my Jokerst line was from and the name is very > prevalent, > 2)in Windschlag where a line of Ste. Genevieve "Joggerst" emigrated from, > 3)Joggerst in Weier that also connect, > 4)most recently Buhl where some of these three towns of Jokerst tie into. > > Earlier census in the U.S. usually show that surname most prominently in > Ste. Genevieve County, then later spill over into St. Louis - though also > seen in New York, New Jersey, New Orleans, and Illinois - possibly in > other > states from 1920 forward. Too bad records don't go far enough back as we > might be able to find when/where the name changed spellings - if in fact > they are all one and the same surname. I've thus far seen a separation of > spelling in lines, though not uncommonly mispelled within records. I will > look through the family sheets I have and see if any of the Jokerst have > origins in Urloffen and send them on your way - if you are interested. > > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dan Bravard > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 6:40 PM > To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com > Cc: St Charles Mailing List; Urloffen Mail List > Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Sauer and/or Widemer > > > Carol: > > There is a mailing list for Urloffen-descended and for St. Charles County, > MO. researchers, as well which I am cc'ing. I am wondering if there is > anyone who might be able to help as well. with your questions. For what > it > is worth I have a Jockerst/Jokerst/Joggerst line as well from Urloffen > which > I have researched extensively (but not exhaustively). > > Dan Bravard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Rogers" <homealot@earthlink.net> > To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:00 PM > Subject: [Ortenau] Sauer and/or Widemer > > >> Hello again, >> >> I'm back after a break from the List and very recently discovered a >> Joseph >> E. Sauer that purchased government land in 1853 in Ste. Genevieve, >> Missouri, >> one plot being right next to Lawrence "Jokest". Having Sauer ancestry in >> Appenweier, I did some research on this individual to find him in Ste. >> Genevieve in 1860 and 1870 census, but in St. Michael, Madison Co., >> Missouri, in 1880 - but in Brazeau, Perry Co., Missouri, in 1850. On a >> hunch, I found his marriages and some of the older children's baptismal >> records in St. Joseph's Church, Apple Creek, Perry County, where I found >> his >> parents to be Stephan Sauer and Legard Ernst from possibly a misspelled >> version of Renchen, for which town I found in a brother, Anselm's >> marriage >> record to Mariannam Laible/Leible, son of Vincent Laible and Rosalie >> Widemer >> from what I think is misspelling of Urlofen. "Anselmum" was listed born >> 16 >> April 1827, and Mariannam was listed born Jun 1829. Not as much info was >> listed in Joseph E. Sauer's marriage to Mary Ann Ponder, d/o Laurence >> Ponder >> and M.A. Schrempp. There was also another Sauer family in Apple Creek at >> that same time, but that family is listed from a town in Prussia. Is >> anyone >> studying this Sauer line? I'm wondering what made Joseph E. decide to >> move >> from Perry County to Ste. Genevieve, unless he previously knew some >> families >> from towns north of Offenburg that immigrated to Ste. Genevieve. >> >> Carol Rogers >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >